Cooperation Game II
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33 members have voted
May 24th, 2018 at 11:57:06 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: troopscottLets get this started i will make 3 accounts
Please don't do that. We will be forced to nuke you.
If the three of us all make one account, then we'll have enough.
I just made my account, it's https://wizardofvegas.com/member/chipslinger/
Mod edit. This is a joke from RS. It's not him.
Do not try this at home. - BBB RS*
Last edited by: RS on May 24, 2018
May 24th, 2018 at 1:07:25 PM
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...(Last edited by: unnamed administrator...)... secret admins are still all around us!Quote: RS...Mod edit. This is a joke from RS. It's not him.
Do not try this at home.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
May 24th, 2018 at 1:08:38 PM
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Quote: Romes...(Last edited by: unnamed administrator...)... secret admins are still all around us!
It was me. I'll put my initials on it. Thanks.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
May 24th, 2018 at 1:10:36 PM
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Y'all gotta be hallucinating maybe. I don't see anything about an admin changing my post. It even says so in the post, it was modified by me, RS. :)
May 24th, 2018 at 4:22:44 PM
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Quote: Romes...(Last edited by: unnamed administrator...)... secret admins are still all around us!
Romes they changed all edits by admins to say unnamed admin. Many months ago one of the secret admins made an edit and it said last edited by. Xxxxxxxx, (will sell who it was for $1500) that outed him/her so they changed it
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
May 24th, 2018 at 5:59:30 PM
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I think some people think way to much about this stuff.
May 24th, 2018 at 6:10:56 PM
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Quote: Dalex64I think some people think way to much about this stuff.
That's just what a secret admin would say...
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
May 24th, 2018 at 11:00:32 PM
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Quote: RSY'all gotta be hallucinating maybe. I don't see anything about an admin changing my post. It even says so in the post, it was modified by me, RS. :)
Me too. I see last edited by "crossed out" BBB out and then RS in bold letters. So I thought you, RS playfully acted as if BBB edited your post and then you "crossed out" her initials and were like,"Okay, it was me, RS who edited this post." ;)
To make it crystal clear, here is exactly what I see.
"Do not try this at home. - BBB(I, Nathan copied and pasted it so the crossed out line in the triple initials doesn't show up in my post) RS*
Last edited by: RS on May 24, 2018"
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
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"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
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June 3rd, 2018 at 12:14:00 PM
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Can we get this game set up?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
June 3rd, 2018 at 12:16:43 PM
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Quote: OnceDearCan we get this game set up?
I've sent a message to lots of people but no one seems interested. :(
June 3rd, 2018 at 8:44:48 PM
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play short three players
June 3rd, 2018 at 8:50:42 PM
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I'd love to play if there is still room!
Thanks!
Thanks!
June 3rd, 2018 at 9:55:43 PM
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I'm going to be out of down for part of June, so l'm officially declaring July 1 the opening of first round picks. I'll explain the rules a few days before. If there is a shortage of players, I'll have to create some dummy players who will vote randomly.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 4th, 2018 at 1:44:52 PM
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I’m gonna be on a cruise 7/1-7/6. No internet.
So I hope there will be methods of participating in abstention.
So I hope there will be methods of participating in abstention.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
June 4th, 2018 at 1:53:52 PM
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Quote: RSY'all gotta be hallucinating maybe. I don't see anything about an admin changing my post. It even says so in the post, it was modified by me, RS. :)
So you are a secret mod? Got it.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
June 4th, 2018 at 3:12:00 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI’m gonna be on a cruise 7/1-7/6. No internet.
So I hope there will be methods of participating in abstention.
I'm going to be on a cruise as soon as you get off. But i am led to believe since I'm paying like a million dollars I will get free internet. So for the boatload of money I will be able to participate and win $5-$10 back.... until Mike shames me into donating it to some charity.....
June 4th, 2018 at 3:16:54 PM
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I'll allow votes in advance in moderation.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 7:11:25 AM
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Quote: WizardI'll allow votes in advance in moderation.
did you put the rules together (assuming a July 1st start still)
June 27th, 2018 at 10:03:00 AM
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Quote: troopscottdid you put the rules together (assuming a July 1st start still)
Sorry, this time I will do this Survivor style and reserve the right to tweak the rules as I go. However, here will be the general rules:
- Players will be divided into teams of five players each.
- Who will be on what team will be my choosing. The first round will be random. After that, I can mix things up, or keep them the same, however I like.
- I will make public before each vote who is on what team.
- Each player must submit a "share" or "steal" vote to me by PM.
- The majority vote of each team will determine a single vote for that entire team. Like the electoral college.
- I will make public the team votes only, not who voted for what or by what margin. For example, I'll say "Team x voted share."
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Prize money for each round will first be divided equally among all teams as follows:
* If all teams vote "share," then they split the prize money equally
* If all teams vote "steal," then nobody gets anything for that round
* If there are a mix of "share" and "steal" votes among the teams, then those voting "steal" shall share in the prize pool for that round and the "share" teams get nothing - The team prize money will be divided equally among all members of that team, regardless of the individual votes
- In the event non-voters cause a tie on any given team, I will randomly select a number for each player. The voting player with the highest number will break the tie.
- I will not have much tolerance for non-voting players. A waiting list will be formed once the game starts of people wishing to fill in the shoes of those who don't vote.
- Players may submit votes in advance if necessary due to being on vacation.
Any questions? I'd like to announce teams on Friday and set July 1 as the deadline for the first round of votes.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 11:24:43 AM
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Quote: WizardAny questions?
What happens if a player is banned from the forum during the game?
June 27th, 2018 at 11:33:10 AM
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#8... so say the "prize money" for a week is $10. Say on one particular team 2 voted steal and 3 voted share... The 3 that vote share would get nothing, but since the majority vote was share the team wins money. However, it is split by the 2 "steal" members. Now, in this scenario, do they get $5 each, or $2 each (their original share they would stand to make either way)?Quote: WizardSorry, this time I will do this Survivor style and reserve the right to tweak the rules as I go. However, here will be the general rules:
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- Prize money for each round will first be divided equally among all teams as follows:
* If all teams vote "share," then they split the prize money equally
* If all teams vote "steal," then nobody gets anything for that round
* If there are a mix of "share" and "steal" votes among the teams, then those voting "steal" shall share in the prize pool for that round and the "share" teams get nothing- The team prize money will be divided equally among all members of that team, regardless of the individual votes
Any questions? I'd like to announce teams on Friday and set July 1 as the deadline for the first round of votes.
Rule #8 makes it sound like $2 each, which would NOT benefit "steal" players since they wouldn't be making any more money than if they shared (hence no incentive to steal). Do I have this correct?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
June 27th, 2018 at 11:56:03 AM
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I love freerolls and will play if you still are looking for players and assuming my tenure is adequate.
June 27th, 2018 at 12:42:49 PM
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Quote: gamerfreakWhat happens if a player is banned from the forum during the game?
They can still play by submitting votes through DT.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 12:50:05 PM
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Quote: Romes#8... so say the "prize money" for a week is $10. Say on one particular team 2 voted steal and 3 voted share... The 3 that vote share would get nothing, but since the majority vote was share the team wins money. However, it is split by the 2 "steal" members. Now, in this scenario, do they get $5 each, or $2 each (their original share they would stand to make either way)?
The team vote would be "share," since it would 3 to 2. The only way for the team to win money is if every other team voted "share." Let's say there was $10 in prize money and 8 teams, so each team would get $1.25. Every player would get $0.25, whether he voted share or steal.
This game is more of a team effort. Individual votes only determine what the team does. Any team winnings are split equally among all players on that team.
Quote:Rule #8 makes it sound like $2 each, which would NOT benefit "steal" players since they wouldn't be making any more money than if they shared (hence no incentive to steal). Do I have this correct?
That would be right if the team win was $10 -- each player would get $2.
However, I see your point about not being properly incentivized* to vote "steal." As I wrote earlier, I reserve the right to change the rules as we go. I might change them that way.
* Why is this spelling getting flagged?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 2:31:40 PM
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Here is the latest list.
* Commented but never said "in."
I plan to start taking votes early on Friday. The number of players must be divisible by 5. If it isn't, anyone with an asterisk will be first to go. After that, it will be randomized. Anyone cut randomly will be first on the waiting list.
- gamerfreak
- RS
- JohnnyQ
- Romes
- OnceDear
- AxelWolf
- onenickelmiracle
- SOOPOO
- Boz
- Dalex64
- GWAE
- DJTeddyBear
- sodawater*
- MidwestAP
- MaxPen
- Ayecarumba
- troopscott
- miplet
- beachbumbabs
- GWAE
- djatc
- billryan
- gordonm888
- HeyMrDJ
- PlayYourCardsRight
- Face
- Torghatten
- Mikey75
- PokerGrinder
- SM777
- Nathan*
- Jmarch79
- prozema
* Commented but never said "in."
I plan to start taking votes early on Friday. The number of players must be divisible by 5. If it isn't, anyone with an asterisk will be first to go. After that, it will be randomized. Anyone cut randomly will be first on the waiting list.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 2:35:00 PM
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Figure 35 players. Appoint 7 captains. Have the captains draft a team. I would take Nathan as my first pick, unless she was a captain also. (Notice I am campaigning to be a captain....)
My first vote will be steal, by the way......
My first vote will be steal, by the way......
June 27th, 2018 at 2:49:14 PM
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I was so busy with Nathan's Corner, I almost missed this.
Let's just give Nathan 3 votes on three different teams.
Let's just give Nathan 3 votes on three different teams.
June 27th, 2018 at 3:06:51 PM
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Do teams discuss this or does everyone just vote the way they want.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
June 27th, 2018 at 3:33:38 PM
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Quote: billryanDo teams discuss this or does everyone just vote the way they want.
I didn't see anything in the rules about collusion.
June 27th, 2018 at 3:50:47 PM
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Quote: prozemaI didn't see anything in the rules about collusion.
Collusion is allowed. Lying is also allowed.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 3:55:59 PM
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Quote: WizardCollusion is allowed. Lying is also allowed.
I like this game.
June 27th, 2018 at 4:41:19 PM
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Here is, in my mind, the only way to win:
You can't count on everyone in every group voting share. It just won't happen. At least one will win steal.
You also can't resolve to steal, because everyone else will too, so no money to anyone.
The only way to win, in my opinion, would be to select ONE group a round to select SHARE, and the REST to select STEAL.
That group can be selected randomly, or through some other means.
You can be sure none of the other groups will vote SHARE, so it is all up to the randomly selected group as to whether ANYONE wins any money that round.
So yeah, I'd leave it all up to one select group every round, to determine if everyone ELSE wins, or NO ONE wins.
You can't count on everyone in every group voting share. It just won't happen. At least one will win steal.
You also can't resolve to steal, because everyone else will too, so no money to anyone.
The only way to win, in my opinion, would be to select ONE group a round to select SHARE, and the REST to select STEAL.
That group can be selected randomly, or through some other means.
You can be sure none of the other groups will vote SHARE, so it is all up to the randomly selected group as to whether ANYONE wins any money that round.
So yeah, I'd leave it all up to one select group every round, to determine if everyone ELSE wins, or NO ONE wins.
June 27th, 2018 at 5:04:23 PM
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Also going on Vacation shortly.
Not going to lug my computer to Europe.
Can I give a proxy to another forum member to make my selections until I get back in a couple of weeks ?
- I don't think RANDOM is fair to the members that I get assigned to.
thanksomuch.....
Not going to lug my computer to Europe.
Can I give a proxy to another forum member to make my selections until I get back in a couple of weeks ?
- I don't think RANDOM is fair to the members that I get assigned to.
thanksomuch.....
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
June 27th, 2018 at 5:17:06 PM
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Quote: prozemaI like this game.
Hey you! Quit lying!
June 27th, 2018 at 5:29:06 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQAlso going on Vacation shortly.
I think that it will be my policy will be to accept up to three blind votes per player. No proxies allowed. I'd suggest PM'ing me something like my next three votes shall be ...
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 6:29:07 PM
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Done. Team-mates TBD: Is it against the rules for me to tell how you what I selected, round by round, for a customary gratuity that does no violate GLOBECO guidelilnes ?
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
June 27th, 2018 at 6:45:26 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQDone. Team-mates TBD: Is it against the rules for me to tell how you what I selected, round by round, for a customary gratuity that does no violate GLOBECO guidelilnes ?
You may say anything you wish, including a lie.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 27th, 2018 at 6:46:19 PM
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Quote: WizardYou may say anything you wish, including a lie.
I want to drop f bombs.
June 27th, 2018 at 6:48:57 PM
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Oh my. I think that is against the GENEVA CONVENTION. I mean depending I guess on where you want to drop them.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
June 28th, 2018 at 2:41:12 AM
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If there is still room I would like to join.
June 28th, 2018 at 4:30:07 AM
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I was just looking at tenure of the people on the list. It appears I am the most junior. If that is the case and there is a need to cut someone, I will volunteer.
June 28th, 2018 at 4:52:25 AM
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Quote: prozemaI was just looking at tenure of the people on the list. It appears I am the most junior. If that is the case and there is a need to cut someone, I will volunteer.
Actually, I will be happy to go on standby rather than you, or optionally as the Wiz needs to make the numbers work. I'd rather see you get to play, and Jufo, and other folks who usually don't. So put me at the back of the line or on standby, please.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
June 28th, 2018 at 4:57:53 AM
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Quote: Jufo81If there is still room I would like to join.
I'm accepting new players until about 8 AM tomorrow morning.
At this time, I'm looking for a commitment from sodawater and Nathan. Both have offered discussion in the thread but never said "in." Lacking an "in," they will be assumed to be out. If some players need to be cut, I'll form a waiting list, with them on it, for an expansion team.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 28th, 2018 at 5:20:50 AM
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If there's still places available then I'll give it a go, sounds like a bit of fun.
Success comes in cans, not cant's
June 28th, 2018 at 6:38:27 AM
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I'm in, how does this work? I realize by what I said is the equivalent of signing a contract and THEN reading the fine print, ;) This Cooperation Game seems like fun. Do I have to put up money in PayPal or anything like that? Because I do not have a PayPal account. ;)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
"Olive oil is processed but it only has one
ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D
I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;)
Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D
"For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
June 28th, 2018 at 7:33:25 AM
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It's a total free roll, as in you do not have to put ANY of your money up at ALL. The Wiz is banking the game, so for the players it's just fun and maybe win a little bit. All you'll be responsible for is voting by the specific deadlines the Wizard will set, that's it =).Quote: NathanI'm in, how does this work? I realize by what I said is the equivalent of signing a contract and THEN reading the fine print, ;) This Cooperation Game seems like fun. Do I have to put up money in PayPal or anything like that? Because I do not have a PayPal account. ;)
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
June 28th, 2018 at 7:34:09 AM
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No. It’s a free roll.Quote: NathanDo I have to put up money in PayPal or anything like that?
The Wiz is putting up all the money. The point of the game is to figure out how much and to whom.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
June 28th, 2018 at 7:39:37 AM
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Quote: NathanI'm in, how does this work? I realize by what I said is the equivalent of signing a contract and THEN reading the fine print, ;) This Cooperation Game seems like fun. Do I have to put up money in PayPal or anything like that? Because I do not have a PayPal account. ;)
No Nathan, you don't have to put up money up front. Your word is your bond and you can generally settle up by internet banking, so long as you have a suitable US account. (If I understand correctly).
Oh and Nathan..... It's a freeroll. You CANNOT lose money. It's like a TV gameshow where Wizard is the host and he hands out prizes out of his own pocket.... Or not, depending on how badly we play.
In the last game, I won $15 which was about the average. This variant of the game is going to bring a lot of tactics into play. If team members screw each-other over they can all end up not winning and get pissed at each-other. So, cooperate a lot. Though part of the game is to not cooperate and to lie and steal. You will find the game makes some of us grumpy. the ideal is for us to milk the Wizard out of as much money as possible, so collusion is a good way to go.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
June 28th, 2018 at 8:04:46 AM
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If there's still room, I'd like to play. If not, no worries, I'll gladly watch from the bleachers.
"Dealer has 'rock'... Pay 'paper!'"
June 28th, 2018 at 10:12:48 AM
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How long will each round be to get a vote in and how many rounds will there be?Quote: WizardSorry, this time I will do this Survivor style and reserve the right to tweak the rules as I go. However, here will be the general rules:
- Players will be divided into teams of five players each.
- Who will be on what team will be my choosing. The first round will be random. After that, I can mix things up, or keep them the same, however I like.
- I will make public before each vote who is on what team.
- Each player must submit a "share" or "steal" vote to me by PM.
- The majority vote of each team will determine a single vote for that entire team. Like the electoral college.
- I will make public the team votes only, not who voted for what or by what margin. For example, I'll say "Team x voted share."
- Prize money for each round will first be divided equally among all teams as follows:
* If all teams vote "share," then they split the prize money equally
* If all teams vote "steal," then nobody gets anything for that round
* If there are a mix of "share" and "steal" votes among the teams, then those voting "steal" shall share in the prize pool for that round and the "share" teams get nothing- The team prize money will be divided equally among all members of that team, regardless of the individual votes
- In the event non-voters cause a tie on any given team, I will randomly select a number for each player. The voting player with the highest number will break the tie.
- I will not have much tolerance for non-voting players. A waiting list will be formed once the game starts of people wishing to fill in the shoes of those who don't vote.
- Players may submit votes in advance if necessary due to being on vacation.
Any questions? I'd like to announce teams on Friday and set July 1 as the deadline for the first round of votes.
I am a robot.
