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November 13th, 2012 at 10:37:12 AM permalink
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No. I will only accept share and steal choices. If you choose randomly on your own end that is fine. It makes no difference to me how the choice is made, although I prefer this end with two steals so I can keep my money.


Then this really isn't a "Golden Balls" challenge at all since in the real show it seemed to me the contestants always had the option to say, "I won't look if you won't". You have decided to eliminate this option, which is fine since it is your challenge and it is your money.

What if the team captain fails to respond by the deadline? Can a team member submit a choice as a back-up just in case?
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November 13th, 2012 at 10:47:57 AM permalink
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I must admit that I didn't understand the team concept until I read Mike's post about the Round 2 matchups.

That changes my thinking and strategy.....



I sure hope so.
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November 13th, 2012 at 11:39:53 AM permalink
Quote: paisiello

What if the team captain fails to respond by the deadline? Can a team member submit a choice as a back-up just in case?

That sounds reasonable. Except I would imagine that TIMSPEED, being the lone benificiary of a default win, might have a different opinion...



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I sure hope so.

Yep. Your team leader will be getting a PM shortly.
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November 13th, 2012 at 12:29:26 PM permalink
Is there a way to extend that deadline? I just logged in and fired off a PM to my teammate and, "Opponents," but with the picks due in slightly over eighteen hours, it's hard to tell whether or not they will all even see the PM. Furthermore, I'll be on for the last time in approximately eleven hours (until 8a.m. on 11/14) so it becomes quite possible that I have to make the call without my teammate's input which I would prefer not to do.
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November 13th, 2012 at 5:09:58 PM permalink
Quote: paisiello

Then this really isn't a "Golden Balls" challenge at all since in the real show it seemed to me the contestants always had the option to say, "I won't look if you won't". You have decided to eliminate this option, which is fine since it is your challenge and it is your money.



I think I've seen every episode available on YouTube and have never seen such an ending. Can anyone else confirm or deny this option on the show?

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What if the team captain fails to respond by the deadline? Can a team member submit a choice as a back-up just in case?



Yes, I will accept that.

Quote: Mission146

Is there a way to extend that deadline?



Fair point. I extended it a day, to Thursday at 8:00 AM.

By the way, five submissions so far. I we get all ten in early I'll post the results early as well.
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November 13th, 2012 at 5:29:21 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

That sounds reasonable. Except I would imagine that TIMSPEED, being the lone benificiary of a default win, might have a different opinion...

Except in the next round when he also reaps what he sews....
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November 13th, 2012 at 6:27:52 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Round 2 Matchups

Team 1 Team 2
Mission146 + FinsRule thecesspit + WongBo
TIMSPEED JohnnyQ + paisiello
mwalz9 avargov + CrystalMath
DJTeddyBear ShiftyRicky + bigfoot66
darnits + miplet RaleighCraps + Ayecarumba



I suppose I would apologize to Avargov, CrystalMath, ShiftyRicky and BigFoot66, but it looks like you have all drawn the shortest straw with respect to your opponents. In my opinion, they will steal, so the only action you guys can really take (given that you are eliminated anyway) is to go ahead and knock them out so that the people who played a, "Clean," game can go ahead and advance and we'll all have a nice eleven way chop at the end.

This is why I tried to advise everyone just to share in the first round, because the people who did not simply cannot be trusted, at this point. If these first round stealers (and I still like you guys!) end up meeting any team with myself on it in the later rounds, we will knock them out of the game.

Anyway, again, apologies for the draw, but you know what you have to do.
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November 13th, 2012 at 6:30:34 PM permalink
If this doesn't end with Mission stealing, I will be so disappointed...
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November 13th, 2012 at 6:46:57 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

If this doesn't end with Mission stealing, I will be so disappointed...



Why would I steal? I've advocated sharing this entire time. Personally, I'm going to give my money a shot at being worth it even if it is an eleven way chop, by politely requesting that The Wiz take my share (if he is so inclined) and slap it down on Hardway 4, preferably with AHigh rolling, next time he is at the casino. If that $18 were to win on the 7:1 for $126, I'd ask him to let the original $18 ride and see how far it goes. The $126 would be enough of an amount for it to be worth him sending me a check to donate to the local charity of my choice...and actually...there have been solicitations to help the family of this little girl with Leukemia. I probably wouldn't drop that kind of money in the gas station bucket, but their phone number is on the bucket, so I'd call them and get an address.

Wouldn't it be amazing if Wiz could fire off eight HardWay Fours without a Seven or Easy-Four? That'd be over $1,000 for that family, that would be incredible!
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November 13th, 2012 at 6:56:24 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

there have been solicitations to help the family of this little girl with Leukemia. I probably wouldn't drop that kind of money in the gas station bucket, but their phone number is on the bucket, so I'd call them and get an address.

Wouldn't it be amazing if Wiz could fire off eight HardWay Fours without a Seven or Easy-Four? That'd be over $1,000 for that family, that would be incredible!



Little girl with Lukemia? GAG!!!!!! Come on man, have some shame!!!! ;)
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November 13th, 2012 at 6:57:18 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

... by politely requesting that The Wiz take my share (if he is so inclined) and slap it down on Hardway 4,...



I think my reputation would be ruined if anybody caught me making a sucker bet like the Hard 4. Not to mention the "that's what she said" jokes when I even say "hard four."
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:01:15 PM permalink
I already told my opponents this round in a private message that I simply stole in round 1 because my opponent and I in that round, vendman1, had NO CONTACT! I couldn't split with someone I hadn't even talked to! For all I know, he had forgot about it!

However, in this round, Im willing to give my word and trust to my opponents that I will indeed SPLIT!

I want a free lunch courtesy of The Wiz.
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:02:33 PM permalink
Hard 4, One Time!!!

Even Money's not going to get it Wiz. If it makes you feel better, it will be nothing but +EV for the family (hence, a good bet) because whatever my winnings from the Golden Balls contest are, if the Hard-4 fails, I will donate that amount by dropping it in the bucket.

Would you prefer just to send me a check for the winnings and I will do the Hard-4 thing?

If not, would you like to do some kind of four-team NFL Parlay for the big bucks? You usually only need one dog for something like that to result in a nice payday, if successful.

That last bit was great, did you Edit that in or did I miss it on the first read?
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:07:05 PM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

I already told my opponents this round in a private message that I simply stole in round 1 because my opponent and I in that round, vendman1, had NO CONTACT! I couldn't split with someone I hadn't even talked to! For all I know, he had forgot about it!



See, the problem with that is that if he forgot about it, you would still advance by sharing, so you really had no reason to steal if you had no contact with your opponent. I'm not one of your opponents this round, though, so if they believe you, that's fine. If you share this round, I may be inclined to trust you in the future, but right now, I find your story shaky, at best.
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:07:25 PM permalink
What do you guys think about having The Wiz take this entire $200 pot and putting it on the Big 6 wheel?
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:09:07 PM permalink
I sense sarcasm.
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:10:13 PM permalink
I'll bet you an $18 Hard 4 at The Meadows this Saturday I split this round. Wanna take it?
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:11:04 PM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

I already told my opponents this round in a private message that I simply stole in round 1 because my opponent and I in that round, vendman1, had NO CONTACT! I couldn't split with someone I hadn't even talked to! For all I know, he had forgot about itiz.


I had zero contact with my opponent, as such I got the "bye", and I STILL chose split...just for reference for future opponents/teammates...
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:12:38 PM permalink
Sarcasm? No.... LoL If the Wiz wouldnt risk his reputation on a Hard 4, I bet he doesn't even act like he knows how to play the Big 6 Wheel if someone asks! LoL
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:19:34 PM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

I'll bet you an $18 Hard 4 at The Meadows this Saturday I split this round. Wanna take it?



I can't help you there, for a couple reasons.

1.) It breaks the Second Commandmant of Mission146's Ten Commandmants of Prop Bets, which states as follows:

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Thou Shalt Not make a Prop Bet where your opponent solely controls the outcome.



2.) I'd love to go gambling with you, but I'm pretty much exclusively only available in the early a.m. hours, recently. If you want to set something up for afternoon or evening type hours, then we'd probably need to get together sometime after the New Year. Actually, I've been meaning to ask you if you wanted to split gas and run out to Scioto with me sometime because they still have that Free Play wheel for new Members of the InClub. They lowered the minimum to $5.00 now, which sucks, but I would agree to splitting my known Free Play and your unknown result with you 50/50, so we'd still do fine in that regard.
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November 13th, 2012 at 7:42:12 PM permalink
For example, I have $75 FP offers for each week also for the month of Nov. I don't know whether Dec/Jan will be the same, and haven't made it out there recently, but that would give us a minimum of $40/each FP, which isn't bad.

Hopefully you hit for the $1,000 on the FP Wheel, then we will each get $537.50...that will kind of suck for you, I guess, but I'd think it was just awesome!
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November 13th, 2012 at 8:54:43 PM permalink
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I think I've seen every episode available on YouTube and have never seen such an ending. Can anyone else confirm or deny this option on the show?


I think it would be irrelevant whether or not anyone actually thought of implementing the strategy. I think the point is that the option is available to them if they thought of it. I am not aware there was a specific rule preventing them from talking beforehand. And certainly they had opportunities before the final round to talk to each other and mutually agree on a final round strategy should they make it.
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November 13th, 2012 at 10:04:57 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I must admit that I didn't understand the team concept until I read Mike's post about the Round 2 matchups.

That changes my thinking and strategy.....



Oh great, now you decide to start thinking...

ShiftyRicky and bigfoot66 you have virtually no choice but to choose 'Steal' from DJTeddyBear. And no one can blame you because he's already shown that he can't be trusted to share.

If he Steals again, you WILL be eliminated. Don't go down without a fight, you must Steal from him, thus winning if he's had a change of strategy or eliminating another one that didn't act in the group's best interest. Most of the Stealers were already eliminated, take care of the last 2 (DJ & mwalz9) and the rest of you can enjoy your share.
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November 13th, 2012 at 11:42:02 PM permalink
If you steal at the end, that will be twice as much money for the leukemia girl. Sharing would be really, really selfish...
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November 14th, 2012 at 5:19:10 AM permalink
Quote: MonkeyMonkey

ShiftyRicky and bigfoot66 you have virtually no choice but to choose 'Steal' from DJTeddyBear. And no one can blame you because he's already shown that he can't be trusted to share.


I don't know where this hostility is coming from.

I chose "steal" primarily as a result of the private message you sent me. Maybe you should go back and re-read it.
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November 14th, 2012 at 5:45:15 AM permalink
DAY 3 and no suspensions yet? What gives?
Have I underestimated the ability of our crowd to be able to behave themselves?
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November 14th, 2012 at 6:07:00 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I don't know where this hostility is coming from.

I chose "steal" primarily as a result of the private message you sent me. Maybe you should go back and re-read it.



What hostility? I just want you eliminated. :)

What about the message I sent said I was going to steal? I was 100% truthful in that my strategy was going to be to split every time. If you read something else into that, well, that's on you. I even offered to forward my PM to the Wiz with my choice to you to prove that I was on the up and up.
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November 14th, 2012 at 7:28:25 AM permalink
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DAY 3 and no suspensions yet? What gives?



I would like to think that we are all gentlemen and won't take a game too seriously. However, it has not gone unnoticed that with the HB Challenge over, not to mention the election, there isn't as much to fight about. Enjoy it while it lasts.

In Golden Balls news I'm still waiting for two responses.
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November 14th, 2012 at 7:34:11 AM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

If you steal at the end, that will be twice as much money for the leukemia girl. Sharing would be really, really selfish...



Even if I were in anyway inclined to steal at the end, which I'm not, your public comments would make it much more difficult to do so because it will probably lead the opposite team to think I am considering stealing. I had a Hell of a time convincing FinsRule that I was actually going to share given my bluster comments about playing the Kamikaze, but as you can see, those were just to build interest and conversation. It was also kind of fun to play the badass when, in reality, I don't have a deceptive bone in my body when it comes to something like this.

I can't say what my team will do, if I make it that far, because my input will only count for a fraction, unless I am the team leader again. Thus, I can't promise that we won't steal, but if we do, it won't be because I did not suggest that we share. Mutual sharing is the only guaranteed way to win something.
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November 14th, 2012 at 8:12:30 AM permalink
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Even if I were in anyway inclined to steal at the end, which I'm not, your public comments would make it much more difficult to do so because it will probably lead the opposite team to think I am considering stealing. I had a Hell of a time convincing FinsRule that I was actually going to share given my bluster comments about playing the Kamikaze, but as you can see, those were just to build interest and conversation. It was also kind of fun to play the badass when, in reality, I don't have a deceptive bone in my body when it comes to something like this.

I can't say what my team will do, if I make it that far, because my input will only count for a fraction, unless I am the team leader again. Thus, I can't promise that we won't steal, but if we do, it won't be because I did not suggest that we share. Mutual sharing is the only guaranteed way to win something.



The admin doth protest too much, methinks. (Hehe, apologies to Shakespeare)
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November 14th, 2012 at 9:08:25 AM permalink
I'll let my (and our) decisions to share speak for themselves. Again, if I am not team leader, I do not directly control the decision.
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November 14th, 2012 at 9:10:05 AM permalink
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Even if I were in anyway inclined to steal at the end, which I'm not, your public comments would make it much more difficult to do so because it will probably lead the opposite team to think I am considering stealing. I had a Hell of a time convincing FinsRule that I was actually going to share given my bluster comments about playing the Kamikaze, but as you can see, those were just to build interest and conversation. It was also kind of fun to play the badass when, in reality, I don't have a deceptive bone in my body when it comes to something like this.

I can't say what my team will do, if I make it that far, because my input will only count for a fraction, unless I am the team leader again. Thus, I can't promise that we won't steal, but if we do, it won't be because I did not suggest that we share. Mutual sharing is the only guaranteed way to win something.



Still not completely sure why I shared. And for now, I'm just along for the ride.
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November 14th, 2012 at 1:21:24 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Even if I were in anyway inclined to steal at the end, which I'm not, your public comments would make it much more difficult to do so because it will probably lead the opposite team to think I am considering stealing. I had a Hell of a time convincing FinsRule that I was actually going to share given my bluster comments about playing the Kamikaze, but as you can see, those were just to build interest and conversation. It was also kind of fun to play the badass when, in reality, I don't have a deceptive bone in my body when it comes to something like this.

I can't say what my team will do, if I make it that far, because my input will only count for a fraction, unless I am the team leader again. Thus, I can't promise that we won't steal, but if we do, it won't be because I did not suggest that we share. Mutual sharing is the only guaranteed way to win something.



No, it's irrelevant. It's no more difficult to steal at the end than to share, regardless of what your opponents think. If your opponents decide to steal, you get nothing, regardless of your choices.

You seem to be on the right track, though. The leukemia girl story could guilt them into sharing. Then you can pick steal, laugh evilly, and spend all the money on hookers and blow. Although, your max win is $100 right now, so that might not be such a great idea. As long as you don't share again, you can still get a nice steak dinner.

When Golden Balls is done, we should have a forum-wide game of Diplomacy. That should finish off any friendships or trust that survived this game...
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November 14th, 2012 at 1:56:20 PM permalink
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No, it's irrelevant. It's no more difficult to steal at the end than to share, regardless of what your opponents think. If your opponents decide to steal, you get nothing, regardless of your choices.



That's true.

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You seem to be on the right track, though. The leukemia girl story could guilt them into sharing. Then you can pick steal, laugh evilly, and spend all the money on hookers and blow. Although, your max win is $100 right now, so that might not be such a great idea. As long as you don't share again, you can still get a nice steak dinner.



I would appreciate them helping the leukemia girl by sharing such that they would have my loyalty to the extent that I would not steal.

I'm a vegetarian, so the steak dinner holds no value for me.

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When Golden Balls is done, we should have a forum-wide game of Diplomacy. That should finish off any friendships or trust that survived this game...



I'll look into that, I've never heard of that game.
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November 14th, 2012 at 2:11:52 PM permalink
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When Golden Balls is done, we should have a forum-wide game of Diplomacy. That should finish off any friendships or trust that survived this game...



LOVE that game. Haven't played since college, though. And, yes, it started a brawl.
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November 14th, 2012 at 2:41:02 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I'm a vegetarian, so the steak dinner holds no value for me.



Even better; you can probably get two high-end soy-based meals. Watch out for all the estrogen in the tofu though.

So, where do you eat in Vegas? On the strip, specifically? I'm a meatatarian, but last time I was there we had an almost-vegetarian in our group and we were having trouble finding good vegetarian-friendly restaurants. We are from California, and here almost all restaurants have a few good veggie options, so we weren't really used to this problem.

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I'll look into that, I've never heard of that game.



Like the rest of my post, this was a joke. You only want to play Diplomacy with people you didn't really like in the first place, so you won't miss their trust or their friendship.
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November 14th, 2012 at 2:46:41 PM permalink
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So, where do you eat in Vegas?



My former webmaster, Michael Bluejay, is a vegetarian, and he liked to patronize Indian and Ethiopian restaurants, as they always had plenty of vegetarian options. We also ate several times at the Raw Cafe, which is a full blown vegan place. For those who don't know the difference, vegans not only don't eat any animal product, they won't even cook anything, as they would argue that is not how food was meant to be eaten.
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November 14th, 2012 at 2:54:06 PM permalink
Technically, some vegans will eat cooked food. There are people who also stick to a raw-only diet.

In other words, "raw vegan" and vegan aren't the same thing. Vegan is a (proper) subset of raw vegan. So, it looks like this:

Vegetarian: Won't eat meat, but will eat other animal products (dairy, honey, eggs, etc)
Vegan: No animal products, but will eat cooked food
Raw: Nothing that has ever been over x degrees, for some value of x that I can't remember.

Living near SF in CA, I've got all this down cold :)
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November 14th, 2012 at 2:56:46 PM permalink
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So, where do you eat in Vegas? On the strip, specifically? I'm a meatatarian, but last time I was there we had an almost-vegetarian in our group and we were having trouble finding good vegetarian-friendly restaurants. We are from California, and here almost all restaurants have a few good veggie options, so we weren't really used to this problem.



I've never been to Vegas, nor do I know if I will ever go. Virtually any Mexican or Italian place will have vegetarian-friendly food. For fast food, there's Subway, Panera and Burger King has MorningStar Veggie Burgers.
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November 14th, 2012 at 2:58:29 PM permalink
What is it called if you don't eat any food that casts a shadow?
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November 14th, 2012 at 3:07:17 PM permalink
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A potatopeanutian?
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November 14th, 2012 at 3:28:00 PM permalink
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I must admit that I didn't understand the team concept until I read Mike's post about the Round 2 matchups.

That changes my thinking and strategy.....



ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, you must eliminate Mr. TeddyBear from the tournament.

What's in a Name?

You'll see that DJ's handle exists in two parts, you have, "DJ," and you have, "TeddyBear." If we want to fully understand this man, we must look at the parts of this name and see what they represent.

(None of what follows is about DJTeddyBear personally, just generalizations)

DJ's are generally cool guys, they come in and play catchy dance tunes that would otherwise be annoying, but everyone's having a good time, so it's cool. However, there is a much darker side to DJ's.

I've been on both sides of the turntable, both as DJ and as client, so I know how this works. You're on the phone with the DJ and he wants $400 for four hours, but he says, "If you want me to go a fifth hour, I'll do that for $50, I'll already be there, so what the Hell?"

Great deal, or is it?

You reach that four-hour point and the party has not yet started to wind down, so you approach the DJ with a $50 bill in hand, and he says, "My rate is $100 per hour, not $50." The client protests that the DJ said he'd play for $50, and the DJ responds by saying, "I said it would only cost you $50, take this hat and pass it around, and if we come up with another $50, I'll stay."

Promises made, promises broken.

It's kind of like the bumper-to-bumper warranty a car salesman offers, he says everything is covered, but there is fine print in paragraph 12, Page 127 of the sales agreement which lists non-covered items, namely, everything that could possibly go wrong with the vehicle.

Thus, a DJ is like a Used Car Salesman, just with music and dancing. Imagine walking into a used car place and you're thinking about getting a nice Chrysler 300 with low miles Chrysler: Imported From Detroit and the salesman comes up to you, but at the same time, a Britney Spears song kicks on and a bunch of scantily-clad High School girls come out and start grinding to, "Baby One More Time."

That's just creepy.

We will now turn our attention to, "TeddyBear." The phrase invokes positive mental imagery, you think about when you were three or four years old and you would clutch your teddy bear at bedtime and he would keep you warm, safe and well-protected from the boogeyman.

The difference is that the teddy bear you held so dearly was half of your size and was made of cotton, stuffing and stitches. This DJTeddyBear, I have on good authority, is the size of a human being and has teeth, yes, teeth.

You can't share with a human sized bear. Imagine being at a grill-out and a full-sized bear smells steak, you don't want to offer the bear half of your steak because he will take half of your arm as well.

The other thing is that you never want to run from a bear, because bears will attack when they sense weakness, as we have seen. Your only chance is to stand your ground and let the bear know you are unafraid.

ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, unfortunately, you have unwittingly entered the cave of a bear, albeit a bear playing the greatest hits of the 80's, 90's and today. There is no escape for you, but if you must die, die heroes, and facilitate the escape of the rest of us from this cave. Please. The problem with trying to come to a mutual agreement with a bear is that bears are incapable, by their very nature, of understanding the intricacies of cooperative human social dynamics. Die heroes.

Don't share with the bear.
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November 14th, 2012 at 3:29:12 PM permalink
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Mission 146 said " It was also kind of fun to play the badass when, in reality, I don't have a deceptive bone in my body when it comes to something like this."

TRANSLATION : I am not a crook !
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November 14th, 2012 at 3:35:17 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, you must eliminate Mr. TeddyBear from the tournament.

What's in a Name?

You'll see that DJ's handle exists in two parts, you have, "DJ," and you have, "TeddyBear." If we want to fully understand this man, we must look at the parts of this name and see what they represent.

(None of what follows is about DJTeddyBear personally, just generalizations)

DJ's are generally cool guys, they come in and play catchy dance tunes that would otherwise be annoying, but everyone's having a good time, so it's cool. However, there is a much darker side to DJ's.

I've been on both sides of the turntable, both as DJ and as client, so I know how this works. You're on the phone with the DJ and he wants $400 for four hours, but he says, "If you want me to go a fifth hour, I'll do that for $50, I'll already be there, so what the Hell?"

Great deal, or is it?

You reach that four-hour point and the party has not yet started to wind down, so you approach the DJ with a $50 bill in hand, and he says, "My rate is $100 per hour, not $50." The client protests that the DJ said he'd play for $50, and the DJ responds by saying, "I said it would only cost you $50, take this hat and pass it around, and if we come up with another $50, I'll stay."

Promises made, promises broken.

It's kind of like the bumper-to-bumper warranty a car salesman offers, he says everything is covered, but there is fine print in paragraph 12, Page 127 of the sales agreement which lists non-covered items, namely, everything that could possibly go wrong with the vehicle.

Thus, a DJ is like a Used Car Salesman, just with music and dancing. Imagine walking into a used car place and you're thinking about getting a nice Chrysler 300 with low miles Chrysler: Imported From Detroit and the salesman comes up to you, but at the same time, a Britney Spears song kicks on and a bunch of scantily-clad High School girls come out and start grinding to, "Baby One More Time."

That's just creepy.

We will now turn our attention to, "TeddyBear." The phrase invokes positive mental imagery, you think about when you were three or four years old and you would clutch your teddy bear at bedtime and he would keep you warm, safe and well-protected from the boogeyman.

The difference is that the teddy bear you held so dearly was half of your size and was made of cotton, stuffing and stitches. This DJTeddyBear, I have on good authority, is the size of a human being and has teeth, yes, teeth.

You can't share with a human sized bear. Imagine being at a grill-out and a full-sized bear smells steak, you don't want to offer the bear half of your steak because he will take half of your arm as well.

The other thing is that you never want to run from a bear, because bears will attack when they sense weakness, as we have seen. Your only chance is to stand your ground and let the bear know you are unafraid.

ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, unfortunately, you have unwittingly entered the cave of a bear, albeit a bear playing the greatest hits of the 80's, 90's and today. There is no escape for you, but if you must die, die heroes, and facilitate the escape of the rest of us from this cave. Please. The problem with trying to come to a mutual agreement with a bear is that bears are incapable, by their very nature, of understanding the intricacies of cooperative human social dynamics. Die heroes.

Don't share with the bear.



HAHA. Sorry, I just can't bring myself to steal. I considered it in the first round, its just bad karma.
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November 14th, 2012 at 3:45:36 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, you must eliminate Mr. TeddyBear from the tournament.

What's in a Name?

... snip ...

Don't share with the bear.



After that tirade, I'm going to be really disappointed if you don't steal from the leukemia girl. Or for her. Or whatever.

Why should we trust you? You said you were going to go kamikaze and steal every round. And then you shared. That's just dishonest. Double-dishonest, really. At least I can respect backstabbers who claim that they will share, and then steal (like me). If you're going to lie, at least be straightforward about it and lie honestly.

Also, you are an administrator on a Vegas-related site but you've never been to Vegas. It all sounds pretty shady to me...
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November 14th, 2012 at 3:49:28 PM permalink
" Also, you are an administrator on a Vegas-related site but you've never been to Vegas. It all sounds pretty shady to me.."


Please understand that Mission suffer from a medical condition. Wiz has been kind enough to provide a therapeutic outlet.

Mission 146 suffers from " Barney Fife" syndrome !
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November 14th, 2012 at 6:00:34 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, you must eliminate Mr. TeddyBear from the tournament.

What's in a Name?

You'll see that DJ's handle exists in two parts, you have, "DJ," and you have, "TeddyBear." If we want to fully understand this man, we must look at the parts of this name and see what they represent.

(None of what follows is about DJTeddyBear personally, just generalizations)

DJ's are generally cool guys, they come in and play catchy dance tunes that would otherwise be annoying, but everyone's having a good time, so it's cool. However, there is a much darker side to DJ's.

I've been on both sides of the turntable, both as DJ and as client, so I know how this works. You're on the phone with the DJ and he wants $400 for four hours, but he says, "If you want me to go a fifth hour, I'll do that for $50, I'll already be there, so what the Hell?"

Great deal, or is it?

You reach that four-hour point and the party has not yet started to wind down, so you approach the DJ with a $50 bill in hand, and he says, "My rate is $100 per hour, not $50." The client protests that the DJ said he'd play for $50, and the DJ responds by saying, "I said it would only cost you $50, take this hat and pass it around, and if we come up with another $50, I'll stay."

Promises made, promises broken.

It's kind of like the bumper-to-bumper warranty a car salesman offers, he says everything is covered, but there is fine print in paragraph 12, Page 127 of the sales agreement which lists non-covered items, namely, everything that could possibly go wrong with the vehicle.

Thus, a DJ is like a Used Car Salesman, just with music and dancing. Imagine walking into a used car place and you're thinking about getting a nice Chrysler 300 with low miles Chrysler: Imported From Detroit and the salesman comes up to you, but at the same time, a Britney Spears song kicks on and a bunch of scantily-clad High School girls come out and start grinding to, "Baby One More Time."

That's just creepy.

We will now turn our attention to, "TeddyBear." The phrase invokes positive mental imagery, you think about when you were three or four years old and you would clutch your teddy bear at bedtime and he would keep you warm, safe and well-protected from the boogeyman.

The difference is that the teddy bear you held so dearly was half of your size and was made of cotton, stuffing and stitches. This DJTeddyBear, I have on good authority, is the size of a human being and has teeth, yes, teeth.

You can't share with a human sized bear. Imagine being at a grill-out and a full-sized bear smells steak, you don't want to offer the bear half of your steak because he will take half of your arm as well.

The other thing is that you never want to run from a bear, because bears will attack when they sense weakness, as we have seen. Your only chance is to stand your ground and let the bear know you are unafraid.

ShiftyRicky & BigFoot66, unfortunately, you have unwittingly entered the cave of a bear, albeit a bear playing the greatest hits of the 80's, 90's and today. There is no escape for you, but if you must die, die heroes, and facilitate the escape of the rest of us from this cave. Please. The problem with trying to come to a mutual agreement with a bear is that bears are incapable, by their very nature, of understanding the intricacies of cooperative human social dynamics. Die heroes.

Don't share with the bear.



This was great. Thank you Mission, for making me laugh at the right time.
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November 14th, 2012 at 6:03:37 PM permalink
I would like to aplogize to the contestants for taking so long to get back to the Wizard with my teams choice.

Work is very very hectic this week, and haven't even had time to think.

With that said, I have talked to both parties envoled and decided to......:}

You will just have to wait (Mission) to see what my team has decided.
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November 14th, 2012 at 6:07:23 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

...Don't share with the bear.



You just made my day. That is the best post I've seen in a long time. Hopefully there will be an equally witty rejoinder!

p.s. Now waiting for just one more round 2 choice.
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November 14th, 2012 at 6:10:52 PM permalink
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After that tirade, I'm going to be really disappointed if you don't steal from the leukemia girl. Or for her. Or whatever.



I am not a crook.

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Why should we trust you? You said you were going to go kamikaze and steal every round. And then you shared. That's just dishonest. Double-dishonest, really. At least I can respect backstabbers who claim that they will share, and then steal (like me). If you're going to lie, at least be straightforward about it and lie honestly.



You should trust me because my actions show me to be worthy of trust in this game so far, and otherwise. I also self-identify, politically, as a Socialist (as far as my wage policies are concerned) so sharing is kind of my thing. I intend to share with everyone, and that was the reason that I decided to claim that I was going to go Kamikaze. It's a little reverse Psychology, see; if someone says they are going to share and then do not share, you know you can't trust them in the future...alternatively, if someone says that they are not going to share and then they do share, you must be able to trust them.

I do apologize, though, I will try to lie more honestly next time. ;)

Quote:

Also, you are an administrator on a Vegas-related site but you've never been to Vegas. It all sounds pretty shady to me...



Why would I ever need to go to Vegas when I have the Eighth Wonder of the gambling world in the Wheeling Island Racetrack and Casino? LOL

(That was sarcasm, by the way, but I have been to worse places.)
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