Ayecarumba
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:28:25 AM permalink
On Sunday, the 49'ers David Ackers tied the NFL record for the longest field goal, with a kick of 63 yards. The ball bounced of the crossbar, and instead of bouncing back into the field of play, caromed up and through the plane of the goalposts. The Packers stationed one of their wide receiver's, 5'10" Randall Cobb in the end zone in case the kick fell short. Cobb jumped at the ball at it approached the goalpost, but his hands were well below the 10 foot crossbar. According to the rules, if the kick fell short, and was fielded cleanly, it could be returned as a live ball.

My question is, if the player had jumped, and fielded the ball in the air before it hit the crossbar (or crossed the plane of the goalposts), would it be live?

I tend to think not, since the Packers have several players capable of getting their hands more than 10 feet in the air (6'5" Jermichael Finley comes to mind), but did not send them to the end zone. On the other hand, Cobb was probably the quickest runner should the ball fall short, so I can understand why he was back there, even if it could have been swatted down.
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Ibeatyouraces
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:30:50 AM permalink
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duckmankilla
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:36:11 AM permalink
Yes, the ball would be live. Much the same as blocking the field goal immediately after the kick, there is no "goaltending" per se like in basketball where you cannot block a shot that is on its way down. Blocking it by jumping and fielding the ball before it rings off the crossbar would be considered a blocked field goal and would be a live ball if that player were able to field the ball without stepping out of bounds. Crazy bounce and a hell of a kick, but if a big man were there, he may have been able to snag it before it hit the goalposts and received credit for a "blocked field goal".
MakingBook
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:37:26 AM permalink
Leaping at the crossbar to block a kick is illegal.

I believe this practice was actually legal many years ago (pre Super Bowl era).
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duckmankilla
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:40:53 AM permalink
I may revoke my previous statement. I was going by high school football rules where I dont think there is anything to specifically prevent this act, but according to wiki answers:

Leaping at the crossbar was declared illegal by the NFL (in 1969?), after it was in vogue for about a year. In 2003, the NFL also enforced a "running forward and leaping" ban for the protection of the airborne attackers and the kickers alike. The only legal block is hitting the ball coming off the foot, or jumping straight up.
FinsRule
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:41:18 AM permalink
Quote: duckmankilla

Yes, the ball would be live. Much the same as blocking the field goal immediately after the kick, there is no "goaltending" per se like in basketball where you cannot block a shot that is on its way down. Blocking it by jumping and fielding the ball before it rings off the crossbar would be considered a blocked field goal and would be a live ball if that player were able to field the ball without stepping out of bounds. Crazy bounce and a hell of a kick, but if a big man were there, he may have been able to snag it before it hit the goalposts and received credit for a "blocked field goal".



That's 100% incorrect.
FinsRule
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September 10th, 2012 at 11:41:52 AM permalink
Sorry, didn't mean to pile on, I was posting while others were posting.
Ayecarumba
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September 10th, 2012 at 1:40:47 PM permalink
Thanks for the replies. I actually found an entry in the NFL rule book under, "Unsportsmanlike Conduct: Goal Tending":

Quote: 2012 NFL Rulebook, p. 79

GOAL TENDING
Goal-tending by a defensive player leaping up to deflect a kick as it passes above the crossbar of a goalpost is prohibited. The Referee could award three points for a palpably unfair act.



Since the kick was headed for the crossbar, and not clearly through, I think if GB had caught it, or knocked it down, they might have gotten away with it.
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September 10th, 2012 at 1:42:56 PM permalink
Who knows what the replacement crew yesterday would have called? They were already struggling with the relatively easy ones.
FinsRule
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September 10th, 2012 at 1:42:57 PM permalink
The big question is, would the replacement refs have known what to do?

My guess is a big NO.

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