2016 Election -- Part II
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Quote: bobbartopOh c'mon. Wake up.
Not really a fan of declaring someone a global terrorist without a proper investigation. Maybe you guys need to wake up and smell the fascism.
BTW, chants of "lock her up" was extremely fascist sounding.
Quote: rxwineNot really a fan of declaring someone a global terrorist without a proper investigation. Maybe you guys need to wake up and smell the fascism.
BTW, chants of "lock her up" was extremely fascist sounding.
First step towards conviction is arrest. He is already wanted dead or alive by some nations. There is currently a White House petition for the US to pursue his arrest? One can only hope. A lot of this BS would stop if he and his ilk were removed from the picture. I'm tired of seeing him use naive people as cannon fodder and pawns to pursue his globalist agenda. If that's fascist, so be it.
Many people are to simple to realize that the left wing and right wing belong to the same bird. People like this monster use that ignorance to fuel their monstrosities.
Quote: rxwineNot really a fan of declaring someone a global terrorist without a proper investigation. Maybe you guys need to wake up and smell the fascism.
BTW, chants of "lock her up" was extremely fascist sounding.
Then do your homework, sheesh! Please, don't believe anything I say. Do your proper investigation. I just want to know where you've been the last couple decades? In a rubber room? Even my dog knows what a stinker Soros is. Serious treason, and that is no understatement. Do your homework, for your own sake. You seem like a reasonably intelligent person, so what's the problem?
By the way, I'm not 100% sure you understand what 'fascism' is.
Anyway, don't argue, just do your homework. Find out all you can about Soros. Please, do it for yourself.
Quote: MaxPen
Many people are to simple to realize that the left wing and right wing belong to the same bird. People like this monster use that ignorance to fuel their monstrosities.
The standard political spectrum that is offered as "textbook" is totally flawed. In school, (indoctrination centers), we are taught that the spectrum is a flat line with communism and socialism on the extreme Left end, and fascism and Nazism on the extreme Right end, and supposedly these are "opposing forces". They further tell us that our "democracy" is somewhere in the middle, just right, like Momma Bear's porridge. BUT THAT IS ALL BULL!
Communism, socialism, fascism, Nazism, are all forms of TOTAL government. Under the first two, the State owns and controls the capital, or the means of production. Under the second two, the private sector retains ownership of the means of production but the State controls it through regulation. To the common stiff being stepped on by an iron boot, there is no difference.
Besides, in this flawed spectrum, where is the anarchist? He believes in NO government. They have forms of total government on both ends, but there is no place for the anarchist. Or for that matter, where on this flawed spectrum would you find a limited Constitutional Republic like our Founders gave us? Again, there is no place. That's why this spectrum is crappola.
An ACCURATE political spectrum should have all forms of total government on the extreme left end. And OPPOSITE of total government, would be NO government. Put anarchy on the extreme right. And our Constitutional Republic? Put it toward the right, but not all the way to the end.
Quote: MaxPen
Many people are to simple to realize that the left wing and right wing belong to the same bird. People like this monster use that ignorance to fuel their monstrosities.
I interpret your statement as referring to the fake left-right paradigm. This is Marxist dialectic. Two supposed "opposing forces" are really controlled by the same power at the top. It's common. And that is the main reason the conservatives in this country have been fighting a losing battle. We have saboteurs amongst us. Trojan Horses. I won't name names at the moment. I'm sure you have figured out much of it already.
We marched because (as I said before, but will elaborate) our country elected a lying con man with an agenda aimed at wholesale destruction, with no ethics or admirable qualities who clearly intends to use the US for his own enrichment: an unstable narcissist who is probably certifiable.
We also marched for ourselves, to recognize that we are stronger together and the time for apathy is past. Our sleeping giant has been awakened, and she is pissed.
I'm probably wasting my breath in this thread, at least with Max, bob, EB, Sancho and some others. So I'll stop there, knowing that you either get it or you don't; either way, battle lines are drawn.
You do know Trump is being set up by the Republicans, right?
Quote: beachbumbabs
I'm probably wasting my breath in this thread, at least with Max, bob, EB, Sancho and some others. So I'll stop there, knowing that you either get it or you don't;
So either, thanks to your enlightening explanation, I now get it, or, I'm still too stupid and don't.
3-day suspension. Cya Wednesday. Take a sweater with you, it's cold in the cooler.
Quote: beachbumbabsOur sleeping giant has been awakened, and she is pissed.
Wait a minute! The Sleeping Giant is a GIRL now? When did this happen?
This is the last straw. I'm going to Canada.
Quote:Many conspiracy theories exist about Hungarian-American financier and philanthropist George Soros. Many of them deal with the intersection between his political beliefs and his financial wealth; author Michael Wolraich has deemed the phenomenon "Anti-Sorosism".[1]
The theories have come under increasing scrutiny due to the growing political currency of anti-Soros conspiracy theories in conservative and nationalist circles, with Wolraich comparing them to long-running conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family in 19th century Europe.[1]
I have a feeling, I'm not going to be convinced by bob or Max.
But that's okay, they have plenty of people convinced in their circle of believers, I'm sure. Glen Beck, Lyndon Larouche! for god's sakes are true believers. Dennis Hastert!
The fact that Soros is on Putin's bad side is less than convincing.
Yeah, I know the reputations of all these people already. The Malaysian connection was interesting, but only that.
Anyway I am not as good a detective as bob or Max.
Quote: bobbartopSo either, thanks to your enlightening explanation, I now get it, or, I'm still too stupid and don't.
3-day suspension. Cya Wednesday. Take a sweater with you, it's cold in the cooler.
What? Either you get why we marched or you don't. What kind of spin is this supposed to be?
If the person Trump is, is an acceptable President to you, you will never understand why he's unacceptable to me or those I marched with. The meaning of the Presidency, the Office, the idea of what it stands for. I don't understand how anyone who loves this country could have voted for him; he's so small, so beneath the stature of the Presidency, that he's causing irreparable harm with every tweet, every insult, every "alternate fact". He'll wipe his butt on gold - colored American flags if he can find someone to make them for him.
The way he sees women is atrocious. We're just receptacles to him, decorative toys for pussy-grabbing, judging, using. Do you not listen when they play the tapes or read the tweets or when the women who've had him intersect their lives have talked about him? We're raising boys to be men; one of the most traditional male role models has always been the President. Mothers and wives are turning off the tv in disgust when he comes on or people are discussing his latest offense; who wants their son to be THAT?
Nobody on here ever answered the question that I asked a year and a half ago; what do Trump's first two wives know that we don't? All 3 trophy wives, kids were all estranged until they became useful as adults (yes, it's all been reported, for 40 years now he's been living as outrageously and publicly as possible). How much did/does he pay to keep their mouths shut? And how relieved were the first 2 to get cheated on so they could get out with a fortune? Is it such a surprise that Melania doesn't want to live with him for as long as she can find an excuse?
And these are the people who know him best. They use each other, close ranks about anyone else, but they're just...ugh. I've heard a lot of people say "evil", I think I said it myself in the past, but that's not the right word for it. I genuinely don't care about the actual answers; it's the situation he creates that illustrates what women find so repellent.
It would take another 40 pages to dissect. I cut it short before because it was just getting tl;dr for most everybody. As this has.
tl;dr - I will never understand how he's acceptable; i have never understood what anybody sees in him for decades. And if you do find him acceptable, you will never understand why we marched.
Quote: rxwineQuote:Many conspiracy theories exist about Hungarian-American financier and philanthropist George Soros. Many of them deal with the intersection between his political beliefs and his financial wealth; author Michael Wolraich has deemed the phenomenon "Anti-Sorosism".[1]
The theories have come under increasing scrutiny due to the growing political currency of anti-Soros conspiracy theories in conservative and nationalist circles, with Wolraich comparing them to long-running conspiracy theories about the Rothschild family in 19th century Europe.[1]
I have a feeling, I'm not going to be convinced by bob or Max.
But that's okay, they have plenty of people convinced in their circle of believers, I'm sure. Glen Beck, Lyndon Larouche! for god's sakes are true believers. Dennis Hastert!
The fact that Soros is on Putin's bad side is less than convincing.
Yeah, I know the reputations of all these people already. The Malaysian connection was interesting, but only that.
Anyway I am not as good a detective as bob or Max.
lol @ Michael Wolraich
Lyndon LaRouche? Trojan horse. What rock did you find his name under? I would have figured he was dead already.
If I were you, I would not suppose Soros is on Putin's bad side. Don't believe everything you read.
I did not expect to convince you of anything, especially in an hour. You may never understand Soros, especially if you haven't figured him out yet. I assume you are over 30. Please tell me I'm not talking to a 20-something.
Quote: beachbumbabs
tl;dr - I will never understand how he's acceptable; i have never understood what anybody sees in him for decades. And if you do find him acceptable, you will never understand why we marched.
Your post wasn't TL. I did R.
I barely know anything about Trump. In my posts on this forum, I don't think you'll find much about him from me. Although, there does seem to be a lot of mind-readers on this group who will tell me what I think. No, I do not understand why you marched. I found the last seven or eight presidents unacceptable, and I never marched. Marching reminds me of lemmings. I'm an individual. A very opinionated individual.
Quote: bobbartop
I barely know anything about Trump.
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Today we march and protest and show that we cannot be ignored as Steelers and Packers fans.
#Notmysuperbowl
Quote: BozAll he does is win, and that is not acceptable in today's America to many.
Whoever wins is never acceptable to a part of America
Were you alright when the tea party protested?
The illogical thinking on the right amazes me
Obama wins , the tea party protests and I yawn
Trump wins, the left protests and Boz cant figure it out. LOL
Quote: bobbartopI'm still not sure what the "women's march" was all about.
You'll find out in four years.
Quote: ams288You'll find out in four years.
At least you didn't say two years. But yea, he either has to put up or shut up. And that is all he or any President deserves. I do believe if people feel he has made their life better, he will be fine and if he doesn't.....see George HW Bush.
Quote: BozAt least you didn't say two years.
Yes. That was a conscious choice on my part. The map sucks for Dems in 2018.
Quote: ams288You'll find out in four years.
Day One: Takes us out of TPP. Pretty good start.
Trump 1 NWO 0
Quote: bobbartopDay One: Takes us out of TPP. Pretty good start.
Trump 1 NWO 0
I'm glad you posted this. What are the thoughts about this from those here on the left? I think this issue hurt Hillary in states she lost.
Quote: BozI'm glad you posted this. What are the thoughts about this from those here on the left? I think this issue hurt Hillary in states she lost.
Frankly I'll be surprised if the people on the Left here even know what TPP is. They don't seem well-informed, which is not surprising. They generally think emotionally. Probably not a lot of farmers and industrialists on this forum. They're so concerned about Trump's playboy background but our country is in real trouble and Trump's character flaws seem minor compared to his campaign promises, if he accomplishes half of what he promised it's going to be good for our country. But he's up against some very powerful forces, and they're not going to let just one man get in their way. If Trump is the real deal, he's going to have an extremely tough job ahead of him. I have never seen the media and the Left so up in arms before.
LOCK HER UP!
Quote: BozI'm glad you posted this. What are the thoughts about this from those here on the left? I think this issue hurt Hillary in states she lost.
Not an issue I care about at all - so I'll defer to a leftie with stronger feelings on it...
Quote: bobbartopBy the way, I'm just wondering, why isn't Madonna in jail this morning?
LOCK HER UP!
Because she's rich AF and rich people don't get locked up for saying stuff.
Quote: bobbartopFrankly I'll be surprised if the people on the Left here even know what TPP is. They don't seem well-informed, which is not surprising. They generally think emotionally. Probably not a lot of farmers and industrialists on this forum. They're so concerned about Trump's playboy background but our country is in real trouble and Trump's character flaws seem minor compared to his campaign promises, if he accomplishes half of what he promised it's going to be good for our country. But he's up against some very powerful forces, and they're not going to let just one man get in their way. If Trump is the real deal, he's going to have an extremely tough job ahead of him. I have never seen the media and the Left so up in arms before.
Its complicated so I look at the market reaction today
DOW Nasdaq and SP all down today, gold up
Not good overall
Quote: ams288Not an issue I care about at all....
Thanks for confirming my point. Let me guess, "climate change" is probably a biggie with you. lol
Quote: terapinedIts complicated so I look at the market reaction today
DOW Nasdaq and SP all down today, gold up
Not good overall
It may be complicated to you if you think today's market reaction is an indication of whether it is good or bad for our country. Knowing and understanding the forces behind its implementation makes it not so complicated. History. Homework. Etc., etc.
Quote: bobbartopThanks for confirming my point. Let me guess, "climate change" is probably a biggie with you. lol
Bigger than TPP for sure, but not as big as an issue as it is for some liberals.
I'm never gonna have kids. If righties get a hard on from destroying the environment and want to let future generations suffer the consequences, so be it.
Donald's Mar-a-Lago estate is one of the first places that will end up under water, so there truly is a silver lining here.
Quote: ams288If righties get a hard on from destroying the environment ....
You're so right, Ams288, I'm on the Right, and there's nothing I enjoy so much as destroying the environment. I hate clean water and clean air.
Those pigs who left all their trash everywhere yesterday at the so-call women's march, were they righties? How many trees gave their lives for those signs?
Quote: bobbartopYou're so right, Ams288, I'm on the Right, and there's nothing I enjoy so much as destroying the environment. I hate clean water and clean air.
Then President Trump is just the guy for you!
Quote:Those pigs who left all their trash everywhere yesterday at the so-call women's march, were they righties? How many trees gave their lives for those signs?
So... let me get this straight.... your argument is that protestors who use signs don't like the environment because signs are trees?
Is that what you're getting at?
Seriously?
Quote: ams288So... let me get this straight.... your argument is that protestors who use signs don't like the environment because signs are trees?
Is that what you're getting at?
Seriously?
I don't know what he is getting at, but I can tell you what I am getting at...
Protest all you want; pick up after yourself.
I know that seem like a ridiculous idea...but protecting the environment starts with, well, protecting your environment.
He's basically begging the press to be nice to Donald. The accurate reporting of Donald's small crowds on Friday clearly has taken a toll on him. He used the word "demoralizing" in regards to the crowd size reports.
And these are the people that call liberals "snowflakes!"
Quote: bobbartopThose pigs who left all their trash everywhere yesterday at the so-call women's march, were they righties? How many trees gave their lives for those signs?
I used to live near DC
Every issue is protested in DC
Left, right ect
Are you equally upset at the pigs on the right that have trashed DC also in the past?
or
Do you need to see if the litter bug is on the right or left before you call that person a pig?
the illogical conservative thinking amazes me
Somebody on the right litters, I shrug
Somebody on the left litters, bobbartop goes bonkers lol
Quote: ams288So... let me get this straight.... your argument is that protestors who use signs don't like the environment because signs are trees?
Is that what you're getting at?
Seriously?
Seriously, are you asking me if I am serious?
Quote: terapinedI used to live near DC
Every issue is protested in DC
Left, right ect
Are you equally upset at the pigs on the right that have trashed DC also in the past?
or
Do you need to see if the litter bug is on the right or left before you call that person a pig?
the illogical conservative thinking amazes me
Somebody on the right litters, I shrug
Somebody on the left litters, bobbartop goes bonkers lol
No, not "bonkers", Terapined. What part of "I'm on the right and I hate the environment" did you not understand?
What was illogicial about the Tea Party protests?Quote: terapinedThe illogical thinking on the right amazes me
Obama wins , the tea party protests and I yawn
Quote: SanchoPanzaWhat was illogicial about the Tea Party protests?
Its illogical to be against the left littering and not against the tea party littering
Quote: terapinedIts illogical to against the left littering and not against the tea party littering
Not to mention calling the women "pigs" when the average BMI of your typical teabagger was about 45...
Quote: bobbartopNo, not "bonkers", Terapined. What part of "I'm on the right and I hate the environment" did you not understand?
And don't forget, us righties are all racists too. Clean air, clean water, and minorities. We just hate everything
Quote: ams288Not to mention calling the women "pigs" when the average BMI of your typical teabagger was about 45...
"Teabagger". So classy. And mature, too.
Quote: RonC
Protest all you want; pick up after yourself.
I know that seem like a ridiculous idea...but protecting the environment starts with, well, protecting your environment.
I agree
the disconnect is that when the tea party protested, they also littered
I shrugged and conservatives shrugged
The Left protests and I still shrug but some on the right cant shrug. Actually outraged lol
Cmon RonC, impress
show me how outraged in the past you were when the tea party littered
I go to a lot of music festivals
Boy scouts are hired to clean up after the festival
Hippie jam band festivals, not a lot of trash according to the boy scouts
White red neck country music, trash everywhere
Damm white rednecks
Quote: SanchoPanzaWhat was illogicial about the Tea Party protests?
To their credit, Tea Partiers actually found time to get involved, amazing, given that they typically work one or two jobs. Whereas the deadbeats on the Left have nothing else to do. They don't work.
Quote: bobbartopWhereas the deadbeats on the Left have nothing else to do. They don't work.
???????
I am working right now
More illogical conservative thinking
I work
I also never ever litter
Quote: bobbartop"Teabagger". So classy. And mature, too.
That means a lot coming from someone who posts fake fetus pictures and refuses to provide sources for them.
Quote: ams288That means a lot coming from someone who posts fake fetus pictures and refuses to provide sources for them.
You going to start that? I know, you're goading me into getting suspended again. Those weren't fake, they were seven weeks old, arms, legs, eyes, brain, little tiny human beings. Your calling them a "clump of cells" was fake. Don't embarrass yourself. I am 100% correct on this.
By the way, I was suspended for violating Rule 6, posting violent photos. Yes, they were violent. Abortion is violent. I should have known better and the mod was justified in suspending me. I have only myself to blame. However, it was also said that I posted them out of spite and to troll. Another mind-reader I guess, everyone here knows what I think. For the record, I am not a troll. I am opinionated, yes. And I did not post those out of spite, that would be childish. I posted them because I was getting heavy pressure from you and another certain raging ranter that they were a clump of cells. Clearly they are not. I was 100% right and you were 100% wrong.
In that thread, someone also ranted about my "hateful religious views". Funny, because I have never mentioned my religious beliefs at all on this group, or whether I even have religious beliefs. So, another mind-reader. A whole bunch of those here. No wonder so many here win at gambling. They're all clairvoyant and know what card is coming.
You owe me an apology for saying I posted fake photos. You are essentially saying I am disingenuous and a liar, while you can easily confirm with your computer that I am not.
Quote: terapined???????
I am working right now
More illogical conservative thinking
I work
Post a picture of your fingernails, Terapined. :-)
Quote:Last year, a powerful coalition of labor, environmental, consumer, public health and allied groups came together to stop the TPP.
Doesn't sound like there was any Republican support, unless it was the allied groups.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/23/afl-cio-praises-president-trumps-move-withdraw-tpp-renegotiate-nafta-target-big-pharma/
Quote: bobbartopPost a picture of your fingernails, Terapined. :-)
The illogical thinking on the right is stupendous
logical thinking on the left
Some racists voted for Trump
but
Trump supporters are not racist
Illogical thinking on the right
Some unemployed voted for Clinton
So illogical bobbartop determines everybody on the left does not work
Really sad
I am reasonable, bobbartop unreasonable and illogical
Quote: rxwineFrom the head of the AFLCIO
Doesn't sound like there was any Republican support, unless it was the allied groups.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/23/afl-cio-praises-president-trumps-move-withdraw-tpp-renegotiate-nafta-target-big-pharma/
You're probably right, Rxwine. Look, I'm republican, but I'm the first one to criticize them. There are A LOT of phony republicans. I have never voted for a Bush, or a McCain, or a Romney. In fact, I didn't even vote for Reagan, mainly because he had Daddy Bush chosen as his running mate. I think I voted for Ron Paul once. I usually leave president blank and vote on all the local issues.
I am not a lock-stepper. If the republicans were for TPP, then they were in the wrong. TPP is bad news. And so was NAFTA. It's not about free trade at all. It's about regulated trade, and is a trap.
Thank you for the post.
Quote: terapinedThe illogical thinking on the right is stupendous
logical thinking on the left
Some racists voted for Trump
but
Trump supporters are not racist
Illogical thinking on the right
Some unemployed voted for Clinton
So illogical bobbartop determines everybody on the left does not work
Really sad
I am reasonable, bobbartop unreasonable and illogical
Ok, Terapined, we get it. "Logical" and "illogical" are some of your all-time favorite words.
I can picture your living room. You have a parrot in a cage named Polly who sits there all day, "Bwawk, I am logical, I am logical, bwawk".
