billryan
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November 24th, 2021 at 2:15:57 PM permalink
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Theoritcally, a player redeeming free play in form of promotional chips, then giving the chips to another individual to play on behalf of them would be the same scenario, except its in the form of a slot or VP machine?
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Yes.

Or even a player getting a free toaster and giving it to someone else in the parking lot.

Or redeeming a free hotel stay and then letting someone else stay in the room.
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I've done that. Check in on behalf of a friend to use the room and most of the free giveaways, I will redeem it and give it away to the employees of the casino.

But the big difference is I have personally claimed the promotion then have given it away. Using someones players card to redeem the promo on behalf of someone else is totally different.
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Not legally.

People can "feel" it's different all they want.

My only concern is the law and it's not different.

The law does not address any difference (for use with players permission) between who picks up any given item or uses a players card.
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You keep saying "the law" as if there is some Universal law that applies in every casino everywhere. "The law" doesn't work like that. There are at least 50 different state jurisdictions and I imagine some municipalities that can establish laws affecting this. What the law is today is not always what the law is tomorrow.
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darkoz
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November 24th, 2021 at 2:35:22 PM permalink
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Quote: Vegasrider

Quote: darkoz

Quote: Vegasrider

Theoritcally, a player redeeming free play in form of promotional chips, then giving the chips to another individual to play on behalf of them would be the same scenario, except its in the form of a slot or VP machine?
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Yes.

Or even a player getting a free toaster and giving it to someone else in the parking lot.

Or redeeming a free hotel stay and then letting someone else stay in the room.
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I've done that. Check in on behalf of a friend to use the room and most of the free giveaways, I will redeem it and give it away to the employees of the casino.

But the big difference is I have personally claimed the promotion then have given it away. Using someones players card to redeem the promo on behalf of someone else is totally different.
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Not legally.

People can "feel" it's different all they want.

My only concern is the law and it's not different.

The law does not address any difference (for use with players permission) between who picks up any given item or uses a players card.
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You keep saying "the law" as if there is some Universal law that applies in every casino everywhere. "The law" doesn't work like that. There are at least 50 different state jurisdictions and I imagine some municipalities that can establish laws affecting this. What the law is today is not always what the law is tomorrow.
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And as noted not one person has been convicted anywhere in the US for using another person players card WITH their permission.

And no one has yet to point to any law against it.

Lots of maybes, no evidence.

As for tomorrow's laws, I will worry about that "tomorrow".
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Wizard
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November 28th, 2021 at 11:21:19 AM permalink
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Stop being intentionally obtuse you KNOW Im referring to the players card issue when I say its and for that.
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Note: Emphasis mine.

Please be warned to keep things friendly.

You can see the warden in Shawshank Redemption didn't take well be being called obtuse.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7wREOySaxU
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November 28th, 2021 at 1:58:39 PM permalink
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Quote: mcallister3200

Stop being intentionally obtuse you KNOW Im referring to the players card issue when I say its and for that.
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Note: Emphasis mine.

Please be warned to keep things friendly.

You can see the warden in Shawshank Redemption didn't take well be being called obtuse.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7wREOySaxU
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Fair, thank you for the reminder. I love that movie, used to watch it any time it was on tv. IIRC, the warden also did not enjoy it when his fraud was exposed.
Sandybestdog
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November 30th, 2021 at 12:08:11 PM permalink
I think your problem was the 28 cards. Casinos would have been fine with 27 but that extra one was one too many.
darkoz
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November 30th, 2021 at 12:17:44 PM permalink
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I think your problem was the 28 cards. Casinos would have been fine with 27 but that extra one was one too many.
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Nice humor.

I have had my crew stopped for using just two players cards.

Since there is a zero policy it makes no difference if I get caught with two or twenty or one hundred.

It's all legal either way.
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