There Is No God
March 30th, 2013 at 8:24:52 PM
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Quote: FrGambleGod Bless and Happy Easter!
Happy Bunny Day to you too...
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 30th, 2013 at 8:28:53 PM
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Which God? There's a God over at the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas that hates me. (If I'm not mistaken, it's the same God). But that's okay, I forgive your God and I love Him and I offer Him eternal life. I bless your God.Quote: FrGambleLet me just say that on this special day I hope you don't mind me trying to fill your minds with the 'claptrap' that God loves you, forgives you, and offers to you eternal life! God Bless and Happy Easter!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
March 30th, 2013 at 8:59:59 PM
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Ostara.
(Actually, it's funny, there's a good chance Ostara didn't exist, and it's just a Christian-era backformation from the Old English name of April.)
(I mean, of course she didn't exist, but... you know what I mean!)
(Actually, it's funny, there's a good chance Ostara didn't exist, and it's just a Christian-era backformation from the Old English name of April.)
(I mean, of course she didn't exist, but... you know what I mean!)
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
March 30th, 2013 at 9:20:42 PM
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Quote: MrVDude, you've been watching the wrong shows ...
confession
Art really does imitate life.
I roll with the lighter fare.
Foxy
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March 30th, 2013 at 9:38:23 PM
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Michio Kaku: Is God a Mathematician?
Michio Kaku says that God could be a mathematician: "The mind of God we believe is cosmic music, the music of strings resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace. That is the mind of God."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jremlZvNDuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI50HN0Kshg
A fish would think we do not exist because we do not live in their reality, nor could they imagine anything beyond the water they are bound to. Life is in the water and the water is their whole world and universe. These arguments of God do not differ much from these basic ideas. I think his explanation of physics is saying what does not exist in our known universe or our dimension, exists in its own dimension yet controls our entire universe. Kaku also does admit they cannot yet prove the extra dimensions exist, so there is still hope for skeptics. I am leaning towards God does not exist and God does exist, but neither without the other.
Michio Kaku says that God could be a mathematician: "The mind of God we believe is cosmic music, the music of strings resonating through 11 dimensional hyperspace. That is the mind of God."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jremlZvNDuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI50HN0Kshg
A fish would think we do not exist because we do not live in their reality, nor could they imagine anything beyond the water they are bound to. Life is in the water and the water is their whole world and universe. These arguments of God do not differ much from these basic ideas. I think his explanation of physics is saying what does not exist in our known universe or our dimension, exists in its own dimension yet controls our entire universe. Kaku also does admit they cannot yet prove the extra dimensions exist, so there is still hope for skeptics. I am leaning towards God does not exist and God does exist, but neither without the other.
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March 30th, 2013 at 10:40:29 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleA fish would think we do not exist because we do not live in their reality, nor could they imagine anything beyond the water they are bound to. Life is in the water and the water is their whole world and universe..
Of course, if you divide up the known world into parts, the sea, the the land, the small microbe world, there's all sorts of things living in ignorance of greater worlds.
But one thing you do notice, the land realm doesn't contain the god of the fish world, nor are large things the god of microbes. We are all entities in our own right. There's no example of gods of the other realms that I can think of. We are not creators of the fish world.
So, if you're looking at an outside realm of another realm as an example of how god could be living outside our realm, there's at least no example in the various seprations. I just included a few. We have visible light, infra red, -- you could probably divide endlessly for examples, but none contain a god, or need one to be there apparently.
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March 31st, 2013 at 12:54:20 AM
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Quote: rxwineOf course, if you divide up the known world into parts, the sea, the the land, the small microbe world, there's all sorts of things living in ignorance of greater worlds.
But one thing you do notice, the land realm doesn't contain the god of the fish world, nor are large things the god of microbes. We are all entities in our own right. There's no example of gods of the other realms that I can think of. We are not creators of the fish world.
So, if you're looking at an outside realm of another realm as an example of how god could be living outside our realm, there's at least no example in the various seprations. I just included a few. We have visible light, infra red, -- you could probably divide endlessly for examples, but none contain a god, or need one to be there apparently.
You do make good points. I'm a bit lost, so I won't nitpick you. It was just an analogy mentioning sea about how certain ideas are not possible to even be thought and to point out the similarity between our universe and what else may exist. By definition and not semantics, evidence for another dimension, universe, etc., I think might very well be impossible. The ideas of multi-verses and other dimensions and ideas of a God have a lot in common where some believe they exist, but have no physical proof. The big bang theory says from practically nothing, if not nothing, the universe was created. I agree you won't find proof God exists in our universe, because I believe he doesn't exist here. God or the qualities of God exists where we do not in either another dimension or universe, whatever it is. Kaku and Einstein back me up, see the YT links.
I like the dual contradicting beliefs for me and I may not be too far off. I think we're just monkeys +1 and this may be too difficult to really get past an argument stage really. I do differ from you in fearing the possibility of God, because I feel society is better with people caring about each other as human beings and having a sense of fairness. There could be bad people twisting things in charge like our worst times, but that can happen without a belief in God a lot easier as I can imagine. The world is abandoning whatever good fundamental beliefs were a part of the spiritual basis and letting the bad side of humanity thrive.
We let a company like Monsanto have patents for life they didn't create. They are unable to protect themselves from giving their patented genes away through natural processes of the plants and let them sue people successfully when it happens. This is supposed to be a logical process with patents where anyone logical would say it is unfair to sue someone when you knew it could happen and did nothing to stop it. All while hoping to gain market share through intimidation. It's a wonderfully logical and Godless idea isn't it? You don't have to worry about those who worship the Pharoah, just worry about the Pharoah. Man pretending to be logical and rational is the most dangerous thing you can ever come upon.
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April 6th, 2013 at 4:08:02 PM
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Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide
So, according to Christianity, people who commit suicide go to hell. One of the many, many reasons I think Christianity, amongst most religions, is insane.
So, according to Christianity, people who commit suicide go to hell. One of the many, many reasons I think Christianity, amongst most religions, is insane.
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April 6th, 2013 at 5:09:37 PM
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That's terrible news. Mental illness is a brain injury and really needs to be treated seriously.Quote: HotBlondePastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide
So, according to Christianity, people who commit suicide go to hell. One of the many, many reasons I think Christianity, amongst most religions, is insane.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
April 6th, 2013 at 5:14:38 PM
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I'm researching what specific "mental illness" he had but I'm not coming up with anything. Was he just suffering from depression? Was he bi-polar? Schizo?
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April 6th, 2013 at 5:49:18 PM
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Quote: HotBlondePastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide
So, according to Christianity, people who commit suicide go to hell. One of the many, many reasons I think Christianity, amongst most religions, is insane.
Quie a hateful post. Reads like a celebration.
April 6th, 2013 at 5:53:02 PM
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Picking on Christians is frowned upon by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. RamenQuote: HotBlondePastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide
So, according to Christianity, people who commit suicide go to hell. One of the many, many reasons I think Christianity, amongst most religions, is insane.
Each day is better than the next
April 6th, 2013 at 6:24:26 PM
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Quote: HotBlondeI'm researching what specific "mental illness" he had but I'm not coming up with anything. Was he just suffering from depression? Was he bi-polar? Schizo?
Why, what do you care. Its obviously not because you give
one crap about what he did. His father said he was in terrible
pain for years, good enough for me. Suicide is the only way
out for some people.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 6th, 2013 at 6:54:14 PM
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Too bad people kill themselves, but they always have no matter what. Always sad.
Sad depression is. Just try to see a different future than you imagine and trudge on trying your best to envision a future. Even if you have to lower you standards or ideals a bit, you'll be better off seeing sunshine one more day. Depression takes a fight.
Sad depression is. Just try to see a different future than you imagine and trudge on trying your best to envision a future. Even if you have to lower you standards or ideals a bit, you'll be better off seeing sunshine one more day. Depression takes a fight.
I am a robot.
April 19th, 2013 at 11:46:05 AM
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Quote: EvenBobAll your questions will reveal about a person is they
watched too many episodes of Star Trek: The Next
Generation on TV. Every episode was about one of
your questions, it seems.
I almost blocked this thread while catching up; I'm glad I didn't, this post was worth it!
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April 19th, 2013 at 12:39:01 PM
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Because, it's just one of those days
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April 22nd, 2013 at 10:28:49 AM
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April 22nd, 2013 at 3:15:20 PM
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There is no God. Tonight on my train ride home (which is still in progress), a skinny blonde woman sits next to me. She smells like an ashtray. She stiffs the conductor for the fare and refuses to show ID. She fidgets endlessly in her vari ous bags. Did I mention that she smells like an ashtray? I have about 30 more minutes to go with this crap. There is no God!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
April 22nd, 2013 at 6:14:26 PM
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I'll take a sklnny blonde woman with ashtray smell, over a hairy gorilla with body odor. But I digress...
The word "radicalize" is in the news.
I believe years ago some friends of mine were "radicalized" in the Amway multi-level marketing business. Fanatics, believing they would be top of that food chain eventually, and mentored by some Amway Iman.
Because I'm not actually sure the state of "radicalization" is actually religious. It could be secular. It's overwhelming belief -- falling deeply under the spell of something or more likely, someone.
over and out.
The word "radicalize" is in the news.
I believe years ago some friends of mine were "radicalized" in the Amway multi-level marketing business. Fanatics, believing they would be top of that food chain eventually, and mentored by some Amway Iman.
Because I'm not actually sure the state of "radicalization" is actually religious. It could be secular. It's overwhelming belief -- falling deeply under the spell of something or more likely, someone.
over and out.
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April 22nd, 2013 at 6:32:27 PM
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Dam u Tanko u beat me to it
The GOOD
Me being brought up heavily in a so called nondenominational religion (more like Pentecostal) in church 4 times a week & twice on Sundays until I was 14 it WAS DEFINITELY A GOOD THING, fist love,fist sexual experiences, fist best friend's. I think all kids should go to church until 13 however NOT 4 DAYS A WEEK. I think it may have kept me from doing some things I may have done otherwise and throughout life I seemed to make sure i didn't do anything that may embarrass me in the eyes some of the people I respected.
The BAD
Every time I wonder about a specific type of rule in religion it always seems to revolve around making money for the church. IE:Why aren't Catholic priests allowed to marry? In the early days of the Catholic Church the leaders ended the practice of priests marrying in order to stop the property, money and land of the church from being "inherited" away from the church. that way all the wealth accumulated by the church would stay in the Church. Many more example I may post periodically.
I never meet a religious person who was not a complete hypocrite some don't even realize it. IE If your into gambling your definitely a hypocrite in my and many of your respected religious leaders opinions
why are religious people are often spiteful, hurtful, FAKES?
The UGLY UNKNOWN
I WANT A BELIEVER IN GOD TO ANSWER THIS
WHY IS GOD TRYING TO TRICK US? god is all knowing, all seeing, all powerful, and can do ANYTHING IE: create everything.
why did he create Evil? hes god it seems like he could give us free will and do away with evils. Why would god allow a innocent child to literally get RAPED TO DEATH? really he can't protect a innocent child? that's not free will of that child. Why is the BIBLE WRONG? IE: the age of the world. You can say, humans wrote it for god and humans make mistakes. Well GOD supposedly can do anything, why not (GOD of course) just magically change the bible? Once again why trick us and confuse us?
soooo many different religions, Millions of people have no control over or how they are brought up or what religion you learn. Why is god so unfair?
Many many many things break huge holes in the belief of god yet only ONE dumb word keeps people on the hook "FAITH". If you take that one single word away the you have nothing, zero, nada, zilch. Simply take money out of the equation and religion would Crumble like a preacher caught in a whore house. Which would be nothing new.
The GOOD
Me being brought up heavily in a so called nondenominational religion (more like Pentecostal) in church 4 times a week & twice on Sundays until I was 14 it WAS DEFINITELY A GOOD THING, fist love,fist sexual experiences, fist best friend's. I think all kids should go to church until 13 however NOT 4 DAYS A WEEK. I think it may have kept me from doing some things I may have done otherwise and throughout life I seemed to make sure i didn't do anything that may embarrass me in the eyes some of the people I respected.
The BAD
Every time I wonder about a specific type of rule in religion it always seems to revolve around making money for the church. IE:Why aren't Catholic priests allowed to marry? In the early days of the Catholic Church the leaders ended the practice of priests marrying in order to stop the property, money and land of the church from being "inherited" away from the church. that way all the wealth accumulated by the church would stay in the Church. Many more example I may post periodically.
I never meet a religious person who was not a complete hypocrite some don't even realize it. IE If your into gambling your definitely a hypocrite in my and many of your respected religious leaders opinions
why are religious people are often spiteful, hurtful, FAKES?
The UGLY UNKNOWN
I WANT A BELIEVER IN GOD TO ANSWER THIS
WHY IS GOD TRYING TO TRICK US? god is all knowing, all seeing, all powerful, and can do ANYTHING IE: create everything.
why did he create Evil? hes god it seems like he could give us free will and do away with evils. Why would god allow a innocent child to literally get RAPED TO DEATH? really he can't protect a innocent child? that's not free will of that child. Why is the BIBLE WRONG? IE: the age of the world. You can say, humans wrote it for god and humans make mistakes. Well GOD supposedly can do anything, why not (GOD of course) just magically change the bible? Once again why trick us and confuse us?
soooo many different religions, Millions of people have no control over or how they are brought up or what religion you learn. Why is god so unfair?
Many many many things break huge holes in the belief of god yet only ONE dumb word keeps people on the hook "FAITH". If you take that one single word away the you have nothing, zero, nada, zilch. Simply take money out of the equation and religion would Crumble like a preacher caught in a whore house. Which would be nothing new.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 25th, 2013 at 12:51:52 PM
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April 25th, 2013 at 1:49:09 PM
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Quote: Tanko
Every Church needs money to survive...
Without money, no Church could exist.
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Baloney. Many Buddhist sects in Asia survive on begging
alone. People give them food to survive, and clothes, and
whatever else they need. Money is never involved. Some
do accept small amounts of money. But they survived for
centuries without it, money is certainly not needed for a
church to exist. People are needed.
The Catholics raised collecting money to unheard of levels
in their lust to build huge cathedrals to themselves. Hiring
the best artisans of the day to sculpt and paint masterpieces,
adoring the alters with gold and silver. Having centuries long
persecutions that swept large masses of land and wealth into
the churches coffers. Indeed, the Catholic church could have
never survived without money..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 25th, 2013 at 7:11:57 PM
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April 25th, 2013 at 7:19:25 PM
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Quote: Tanko
Do you think those massive stone Temples and solid gold Buddha's are made of rice?
I'm talking about individual sects, not the entire religion.
You said a church can't exist without money, yes it can.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 25th, 2013 at 8:12:34 PM
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Recent research shows that belief actually has very little to do with the history, tenets, and theology of a religion: "The key insight of cognitive scientists is that for the vast majority of human beings religion is about psychological intuition and social identification, and not theology."
Razib Kahn, "Against the Seriousness of Theology"
Razib Kahn, "Against the Seriousness of Theology"
A falling knife has no handle.
April 25th, 2013 at 8:15:50 PM
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Quote: TankoNo where in the Bible is it said what the age of the Earth is.
It says pretty clearly that Adam was created on the sixth day, gives his age when Seth was born, Seth's age when his own son was born, and so on, through Noah, through Shem, and from there to Abraham, and there on down to Joseph, who lived in Egypt. Let's say we're to be generous and assume the four hundred year clock the Big Guy gives Abraham only started when things went south, but still that puts only 559 years between the Great Flood and a time when there was a unified Egypt, and before that only a few thousand years to the creation. You can "interpret" all you like, but that's what a plain reading says.
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April 25th, 2013 at 8:18:09 PM
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Actually, it's right 'In The Beginning' to borrow a phrase. In the Old Testament, the creation happens as follows:Quote: TankoWhere is the Bible wrong?
You say the Bible is wrong about the age of the Earth.
Where in the Bible is the age of the Earth even mentioned?
The age you refer to was incorrectly calculated by James Ussher in the seventeenth century using his own interpretation of the Scriptures.
He said the Earth was created on October 23rd, 4004 B.C.
No where in the Bible is it said what the age of the Earth is.
Day 1) Heavens and Earth
Day 2) The sky (no really, not making this up)
Day 3) Dry land and some plants, but plants can't survive without sunlight you say?
Day 4) The two lights in the sky, Moon and Sun (again, not making this up)
Day 5) Fish and birds
Day 6) Land animals and Adam
Adam lived 930 years and from the rest of the old testament one can trace, within a few centuries if not decades, the time of Moses.
So is the actual age of the Earth mentioned in the bible by number? No, but it certainly can be calculated if you believe that the bible is the word of a God.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
April 26th, 2013 at 8:48:47 AM
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Ahhh yes See I knew that there is no exact date about the earth yet I always hear christians and non believers arguing about the age of the earth so WHY DOSE GOD LIKE TO CONFUSE US? Whats the point? LOL why the hell do you need money for a church? Why do you need a big church? IT'S A BIG CON
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 26th, 2013 at 9:02:00 AM
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And I still don't get the whole letting young children get raped to death, or being held hostage beat, abused,starved and sexually assaulted for YEARS and YEARS . Then again you say I should not be concerned what others do.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 26th, 2013 at 2:18:15 PM
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April 26th, 2013 at 3:27:14 PM
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Quote: Tanko
God does not test your Faith.
Satan does.
Who? The man of myth, who hides behind bushes waiting
to pop out at you and makes your well go dry and your child
get sick? Thats the Satan you're terrified of?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 26th, 2013 at 3:52:50 PM
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I would like to end this discussion once and for all. It's quite simple. God is an actuality. (you can quote me on that)
April 26th, 2013 at 4:22:30 PM
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Quote: pewGod is an actuality. (you can quote me on that)
Send proof immediately, much appreciated..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 26th, 2013 at 6:10:41 PM
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Quote: pewGod is an actuality.
Funny, I was raised to believe god was a catholic.
You know: original sin, confession, communion, confirmation: all that (in hindsight) mindfuc*ing bulls*it.
"What, me worry?"
April 26th, 2013 at 6:29:54 PM
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I gave money to some monks one time in Laos,then I saw one of them take out a pack of smokes.Quote: EvenBobBaloney. Many Buddhist sects in Asia survive on begging
alone. People give them food to survive, and clothes, and
whatever else they need. Money is never involved. Some
do accept small amounts of money. But they survived for
centuries without it, money is certainly not needed for a
church to exist. People are needed.
The Catholics raised collecting money to unheard of levels
in their lust to build huge cathedrals to themselves. Hiring
the best artisans of the day to sculpt and paint masterpieces,
adoring the alters with gold and silver. Having centuries long
persecutions that swept large masses of land and wealth into
the churches coffers. Indeed, the Catholic church could have
never survived without money..
When I asked a local, they said many of the monks smoke,so that was the last donation I will give.I don`t want to subsidize their smoking.
Happy days are here again
April 26th, 2013 at 7:08:16 PM
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Here and here.Quote: TankoWhere in the Bible is is said there is nothing God cannot do?
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
April 26th, 2013 at 7:29:01 PM
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Quote: TankoWhere in the Bible is is said there is nothing God cannot do?
...think it might be this verse, here.
(And the Gospels, a couple times.)
(This bit, also. God and Satan seem downright chummy in that one.)
(And he doesn't seem too keen on Abe's skepticism of his omnipotence.)
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April 27th, 2013 at 3:07:52 AM
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April 27th, 2013 at 5:04:49 AM
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Tanko You want me to believe a god who created the heavens and earth and man, one who can move mountains the all mighty
cant do the impossible that's absolutely ludicrous and is totally contrary to any and all beliefs in god. and there's this
Luke 18:27, NKJV. "But He said, “The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.”
THE children thing Corinthians 10:13, NKJV. "No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, *who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able*, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it."
I would think being tempted to RAPE MURDER CHILDREN is a bit more then a man can bear.
I see how he may be ok with some basic Ten Commandment temptation
I don't think god needs to test ones faith my allowing CHILD RAPE TORTURE
God and the bible according to the bible makes a lot of promises that contradict each other or just don't happen
I'M NOT AGAINST GOD I WANT TO BELIEVE its sad to believe there is no after life.
cant do the impossible that's absolutely ludicrous and is totally contrary to any and all beliefs in god. and there's this
Luke 18:27, NKJV. "But He said, “The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.”
THE children thing Corinthians 10:13, NKJV. "No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, *who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able*, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it."
I would think being tempted to RAPE MURDER CHILDREN is a bit more then a man can bear.
I see how he may be ok with some basic Ten Commandment temptation
I don't think god needs to test ones faith my allowing CHILD RAPE TORTURE
God and the bible according to the bible makes a lot of promises that contradict each other or just don't happen
I'M NOT AGAINST GOD I WANT TO BELIEVE its sad to believe there is no after life.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 27th, 2013 at 5:41:25 AM
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Even Jesus the Christ of Mankind and Lord and Savior indicates that there is nothing that a god can't do. If you think that your god is less than all powerful then you hate Jesus.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
April 27th, 2013 at 6:37:37 AM
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God cannot lie. (Titus 1:2 and Hebrews 6:18)
I don't know Tanko. From memory this seems at least an equivocation: referring to the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, God said: "On the day you shall eat of it, you will surely die." They did not die that day. As an equivocation (which is a subtle type of lie) it could mean that day death enters the world. Seems an "ify" passage to me. If God equivocates or says he will do something and doesn't then do it (there are numerous examples of this) what then?
As to His nature? How do we understand that or are we imposing such a nature upon Him? I think we tend to befuddle ourselves in these discussions. I prefer to leave these areas in the area of "I have no idea what we are talking about."
Oh, let me add to this. The talking serpent said of Adam and Eve eating the fruit, "On the day you eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil you will become like gods, knowing both good and evil." That seems like an absolutely true statement to me.
(Excuse me if the quotes are a little off. I'm heading to see the grandchildren and I am doing these from memory.)
I don't know Tanko. From memory this seems at least an equivocation: referring to the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, God said: "On the day you shall eat of it, you will surely die." They did not die that day. As an equivocation (which is a subtle type of lie) it could mean that day death enters the world. Seems an "ify" passage to me. If God equivocates or says he will do something and doesn't then do it (there are numerous examples of this) what then?
As to His nature? How do we understand that or are we imposing such a nature upon Him? I think we tend to befuddle ourselves in these discussions. I prefer to leave these areas in the area of "I have no idea what we are talking about."
Oh, let me add to this. The talking serpent said of Adam and Eve eating the fruit, "On the day you eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil you will become like gods, knowing both good and evil." That seems like an absolutely true statement to me.
(Excuse me if the quotes are a little off. I'm heading to see the grandchildren and I am doing these from memory.)
April 27th, 2013 at 6:52:00 AM
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Can there not be a God independent from the bible, whom in other words had nothing to do with it? I feel as a critic, it's weak to use the bible in argument. We can't even get the news to be accurate, yet the bible is supposed to be perfect. I don't think so. Hell, we can't even tell anyone what we ate for breakfast and expect someone else could every day for hundreds of years.
I am a robot.
April 27th, 2013 at 11:55:24 AM
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Quote: Tanko
God cannot lie. (Titus 1:2 and Hebrews 6:18)
God cannot deny Himself. (2 Timothy 2:13)
Noah had sex with his own daughters and it was
just fine. Is that a quote from the Bible you use too?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 27th, 2013 at 12:30:54 PM
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he was from Arkansas so it was okayQuote: EvenBobNoah had sex with his own daughters and it was
just fine. Is that a quote from the Bible you use too?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 27th, 2013 at 12:35:19 PM
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My point is since god can do ANYTHING why cant he just change the bible to make it less confused. Make it as if nothing ever changed?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 27th, 2013 at 12:55:58 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfhe was from Arkansas so it was okay
The Bible is full of stuff that would get you thrown
in prison today. Does it mean that stuff is really OK?
Its confusing..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 27th, 2013 at 1:10:41 PM
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If you pray for that to happen then God will do that for you.Quote: AxelWolfMy point since god can do ANYTHING why cant he just change the bible to make it less confused as if nothing ever happened?
That's totally unambiguous (unlike the rest of it).Quote: Mark 11:22-2422 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. 23 “Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. 24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
April 27th, 2013 at 2:46:21 PM
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You know how there are many different versions of the bible such as King James version and etc.? There should be aQuote: s2dbakerIf you pray for that to happen then God will do that for you. That's totally unambiguous (unlike the rest of it).
Reality Version and when you open it up and read through it it reads: "Crap... Crap... Crap... More crap....Some kinda good stuff that I can apply in my life... Crap... Fake but entertaining story... More Crap..." and etc. etc.
That would be the easiest to read translation!
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April 27th, 2013 at 2:59:17 PM
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Quote: HotBlondeSome kinda good stuff that I can apply in my life..
It could have recipes:
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Jesus Juice recipe
4 oz Bell's® Scotch whisky
4 oz Smirnoff® vodka
4 oz Foster's® lager
4 oz Strongbow® cider
1 splash blackcurrant squash
Get a beer glass, and fill a 1/4 of it with the whisky. Add vodka until half full, then the Fosters beer until 3/4 full. Add the cider 'til glass is almost full. Add a hint of blackcurrant squash. Serve.
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