I think perhaps you meant no publicized incentives for signing up for the card. Actually Saturday and Sundays have electronic card "drawings":Quote: johann528No incentives for signing up for the players club card.
One prize of twenty grand, One prize of Five grand, Nine prizes of 500 dollars in FreePlay. The cards are mainly for slot players, but also provide potential for valet parking discounts, meal discounts, retail discounts on logo items and on reserved rooms at nearby Inn. I don't think they have a Player's Club Desk... they issue cards at any of the cashier windows and have the usual three tiers based on slot action levels, but seem to have no "new card signup specials" at all other than the Once A Day Per Card swipe at a kiosk for some sort of automatic entry into something.
I'm told there is Three Card Poker and Four Card Poker also available.
If you have found open tables [meaning 'not full' ?] especially on a Sunday, that is an improvement as is a $10 table. Must finally have hired more dealers. Too bad about the chickens**t free odds. The BJ was CSM?
So far I have decided to drive a bit further and go to Harrington DE and not Charles Town. I have to avoid a bad day for the Bay bridge, too, which basically means going during the week. That as a whole limits my opportunities which is probably a good thing [plan to go for the 3rd time late this month, first time was a little over a year ago]. That's not to say Harrington fits the bill perfectly, initially I was giving it thumbs-down. I have actually been inside Charles Town's outfit to gamble and didn't!, but I'll stay tuned to new reviews.
What was your overall impression? the place has left a bad taste for many reviewers.
Fleastiff, you seem informed without having gone there?
A young couple who are electronic acquaintances went to the grand opening and have continued going. It is geographically convenient for them.Quote: odiousgambitFleastiff, you seem informed without having gone there?
I agree that the 2x odds are cheap and bespeak a certain attitude that is not a good thing for a casino to have. I do hope they make changes here. Its well known they had problems processing the licenses for their dealers when they first opened and therefore had alot of closed off tables but all that has been solved now. Its time for them to crank up the odds to something decent.
I've been to CT and Dover but not Harrington - maybe I should check it out
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I've been to CT and Dover but not Harrington - maybe I should check it out
a slower pace there I think. The minimums are definitely low now, although your results may vary on any given day I suppose.
Obviously there was a demand and at least on the weekends they didn't lack for higher action players, so they just decided to stick with green chip action on craps or get lost. Well, its possibly a good attitude for them to take.
I have a feeling MD is going to pass legislation authorizing a referendum on table games next spring (MD mandates a referendum on any gaming law changes), and it will be passed next November. With all the money flowing out to PA/DE/WV, it makes no sense not to have them, from both a jobs and revenue perspective. Caesars/Harrah's was the only bidder last wk for the Baltimore casino (~4000 machines), and the 5000 machine parlor adjacent to the Arundel Mills Mall will open in about a year. With slots alone, I think they'd give CT a run for its money (~5000 slots), but it'll be really interesting if both are full casinos.
Thanks!
for the first race !
Quote: sunrise089Thinking of heading over there this Friday instead of overnighting in AC. What sort of BJ and craps table minimums should I expect on a Friday night?
Thanks!
I would think 15-25 for BJ and 15-25 with 2x odds on craps if my memory serves me right.
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Quote: FleaStiff... promoting inexperienced dealers to be inexperienced pit bosses makes a certain sense if that is the only pool you have to draw from
I have to disagree with you. When I first came there, about 18 months ago, the dealers were inexperienced - one almost paid me for boxcars when I was playing the dark side. But things have changed! I noticed that the dealers at Charles Town are now on par with what I've seen in New Mexico or Nevada. Of course, the dealers in Atlantic City take the cake for nastiness, but I don't want to go off topic.
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Quote: buzzpaffI use to ride the train from Baltimore to CharlesTtown in the late 1950's. If the train was late, they would move back post time
for the first race !
Was the racing there better back then? Because it's pretty awful now.
It wasn't bad! I will return!
Pros:
Friendly, fun crew that rooted for you.
Experienced dealers.
FELT tables, not that suspicious synthetic stuff (smile).
5 tables open.
$10 minimum.
Not too many Prop bettors.
Cons:
2X odds!
HEAVY SMOKE!
2X payout for 12 in field.
The greenhorn dealers are BRIGHT GREEN!
My favorite regional casino used to be Harrington, but several dealers there are smug jackasses. The bosses are no better. CONSTANT crossfire all around. No respect.
They also change the table minimums at random, with no grandfather.
I had a good trip to Harrah's Philly.
Rivers, Pittsburgh is AWESOME! Lots of action, and pretty ladies dealing the games!
Quote: toastcmuI've only gone a few times myself, mainly to play some 1/2 nl hold em. I can echo what's been said here for Friday afternoons - I've seen 15 dollar tables for bj. Usually the tables don't fill up till late afternoon. I joke that the initial people playng the 25 min bets have finally run out of money. As for the stingy odds, I guess u til they feel some competition, I bet things will stay the same. They don't offer comps for poker play, and the few times I've played slots/pai gow I haven't received anything. I did see that Charles town brings in about 1/4 of the company's gross revenue now....
I've been to CT and Dover but not Harrington - maybe I should check it out
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Since an old thread is back I will offer up my opinion.
Like any business, sometimes you only get one chance to land a customer. If you blow it, they never come back. That is most likely the case with me for Charles Town. The people were nice enough, but the high minimums, and the 2X odds, just screamed "We are the only game around, so shut up and take it, or leave."
Sorry CT, but I have too many other options, and they all rate ahead of CT now. I will likely never be back. I am sure they don't care about me, but if there are another 1,000 or so like me, they have let some money slip away.
It must be nice to have a business model so strong you don't really need to work too hard at it.
Quote: RaleighCrapsIt must be nice to have a business model so strong you don't really need to work too hard at it.
No excuse for 2x craps, it can't be a 'WV thing' as the one other place I have been to has 3x4x5x [the Greenbrier]
As far as treating people right, they blew it with me too. Now I wonder if they got a wake-up call, all of a sudden we get a report about nice treatment. They will be paying for their prior horses**t soon enough, now that Maryland has woken up and will have it all as fast as they can put it together - totally sucking away the DC gamblers I have no doubt.
- I could find a $10 craps table on a Saturday afternoon
Con:
- 2x craps
- $10 is as cheap as it gets, ever
- 2x craps
- Far for a "local" casino
- 2x craps
Quote: hook3670The hell with them. They spent $42 million to defeat maryland Gambling expansion and LOST!! I could not be happier. Once the full fledged casino are in place that place will go down the crapper.
Penn National hasn't thrown in the towel yet!
Quote: articleIf you can't beat 'em, delay 'em. That's the only conceivable purpose for the company's decision to back a lawsuit seeking to invalidate Question 7, and it's all too similar to Penn National's stalling tactics when it used a zoning referendum in Anne Arundel County to try to stop the construction of Maryland Live.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/bs-ed-penn-national-20121112,0,4322002.story
I'll be very interested to see if/how Hollywood Casino WV changes in reaction to MD Live's table games. My guess is MD Live can at least get away with the minimums Parx charges ($10+ craps/roulette, $15+ blackjack, $25+ baccarat, at the slower times), so if WV wants to convince players to keep making that trek to WV, where there's no adjoining mall to entertain/feed patrons, something will have to change.
I believe on the main floor, it's standard AC rules (8 decks, H17, split to 3 hands, DAS, no RSA or surrender). Depending on the day and pit, mins can be as low as $15 or as high as $100, but I've always seen $25 tables open. I've only peeked in the high limit area passing by, but it's definitely S17, and I think they use 6 decks (the shoes definitely appeared smaller than on the main floor). I don't know if any other rules change. Mins in there are always $100, never higher, never lower.
Quote: silversonic2006I'm a casual player, but I do pay attention to details.
I believe on the main floor, it's standard AC rules (8 decks, H17, split to 3 hands, DAS, no RSA or surrender). Depending on the day and pit, mins can be as low as $15 or as high as $100, but I've always seen $25 tables open. I've only peeked in the high limit area passing by, but it's definitely S17, and I think they use 6 decks (the shoes definitely appeared smaller than on the main floor). I don't know if any other rules change. Mins in there are always $100, never higher, never lower.
I've been to Charlestown many times and my experience is the same as above. As an AP player your best bet would be the HL room. They definitely have 6 deck shoes and stand on S17. The other rules are all the same. Limits always $100 that I have seen. Always at least 3 tables open.
As to your poker question their almost always is a wait in the poker room when I've been so I've never played there. All I can tell you is it's always busy. So there should be plenty of action.
Quote: vendman1As to your poker question their almost always is a wait in the poker room when I've been so I've never played there. All I can tell you is it's always busy. So there should be plenty of action.
Tournaments there are nice, though. They offer green and black chip bounty games on Mon and Fri nights respectively, and I've gone far in those. I'd watch out on cash games unless you're really good, though....there are lots of erratic players with deep pockets.
Thanks.
Quote: ahiromu2x as of last weekend, as in the weekend of the 4th.
Ditto on that...still only 2X as of the 12th/13th of July. I asked a stick man, about 3x,4x,5x...and he just shrugged.
Quote: cmlotitoBumping the thread for an update. Has the craps at Charlestown gotten any better with higher odds than x2 yet? Thanks.
I was there this past weekend and craps was still 2x with $15 min on Saturday night. Whenever I ask about the odds situation, all I get is a shrug now. They seem to be picking back up again as the novelty of MD Live wears off.
Has anyone seen the craps minimum at MD Live recently? Are their odds still 10x?
Quote: zoomzoom8I was there this past weekend and craps was still 2x with $15 min on Saturday night. Whenever I ask about the odds situation, all I get is a shrug now. They seem to be picking back up again as the novelty of MD Live wears off.
Has anyone seen the craps minimum at MD Live recently? Are their odds still 10x?
I wouldn't ever play there on principle alone. I don't have a problem with 2x Odds, and I don't have a problem with demanding a $15 minimum, but I have a problem with the two simultaneously. Oh well, if the players still play under those conditions, neither will be changing anytime soon.
Quote: zoomzoom8I was there this past weekend and craps was still 2x with $15 min on Saturday night. Whenever I ask about the odds situation, all I get is a shrug now. They seem to be picking back up again as the novelty of MD Live wears off.
Has anyone seen the craps minimum at MD Live recently? Are their odds still 10x?
still 10x odds
can verify $15min weekdays
guessing $25min nights and weekends?
"Because fuck you. That's why."
I'll go there when I'm not up for the long journey to Harrington.
Quote: zoomzoom8Has anyone seen the craps minimum at MD Live recently? Are their odds still 10x?
I was there mid-day today (Wednesday). They had two $15 tables and (I think) four $25 tables open. The $15 tables stayed packed, and the $25 tables stayed crowded. 10x. Business looked pretty good for that time/day. I lost a bit, playing just a little above my comfort level at a $15 min, but I had much better results at the other two MD casinos today.
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"Because fuck you. That's why."
No, because Revel would sue for trademark infringement.
Quote: cmlotitoThanks for the update. Looks like all Charlestown has done was go from $25 min's to $15 but keep the 2x odds. $15 min on weekdays at MD Live with 10x odds seems decent enough. However, I do not feel as comfortable at MD Live as I do at Charlestown. Heard of too much crime in the area around MD Live to feel safe going there alone.
Really?...I would rate MD Live as very safe. It's just so crowded I don't see how any crime could be committed without a half a dozen witnesses. I'm always nervous when I go to Charlestown walking back to my car in the mostly empty giant parking garage(hopefully with my winnings).
I like Charlestown better, I go there even though it's farther for me than MD Live. But safer...I doubt it.
I was there last Friday...lost...sigh. But nothing had changed as to minimums and odds. The one floor person I spoke to said they were down 20% from MD Live originally but it had bounced back and they are now down only about 10%. That jibes with what other employees there have mentioned to me.
Quote: cmlotitoI just noticed on Charlestown's website that they now offer 3x4x5x odds on craps. Can anyone confirm this?
I was there on 3/14 and they had 4 tables open, all of them $10. 1 was 3x4x5, the other 3 were still 2x. Somebody asked the box about it, and he said he agreed it was stupid and has been complaining to management ever since they introduced 3x4x5.
Quote: wudgedI was there on 3/14 and they had 4 tables open, all of them $10. 1 was 3x4x5, the other 3 were still 2x. Somebody asked the box about it, and he said he agreed it was stupid and has been complaining to management ever since they introduced 3x4x5.
Hmmm...maybe they can't afford more than 1 sign that says 3x4x5x? This sounds incredibly stupid.
Quote: cmlotitoHmmm...maybe they can't afford more than 1 sign that says 3x4x5x? This sounds incredibly stupid.
I wouldn't be surprised at that, although they have LCD limit signs there, so it shouldn't be a problem.
They also have a new "simulcast" variant of Rapid Baccarat and Roulette. Instead of a dedicated Rapid games dealer, the outcome is simulcast from one of the regular table games in play, and there's a camera to watch the deal. Also, you can bet on the outcomes from three different mini-baccarat tables and one roulette table at once...I think $5 minimum.