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September 16th, 2014 at 12:45:24 PM permalink
Congrats on Wynn getting that MA casino license to build his casino. This is surely going to put Everett on the map. Also to clean up the heavily contaminated eye sore that was once a Monsanto site. Now hopefully come Nov 4 the repeal fails.

http://www.wynnineverett.com/#

Going to take a total of 36 months to build. Hopefully that includes clean up. More problems for Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun in CT in the future. Wynn's East Coast resort is going to put the rest of the casinos in the neighboring states to shame.
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September 16th, 2014 at 1:11:13 PM permalink
Voters will decide in November if any casinos will be allowed in the state. If Question 3 on the ballot does not pass there will be no casinos anywhere in Massachusetts. That's why the state hasn't collected any money from MGM for the site in Springfield yet. They're awaiting the outcome of the vote.

All the polls indicate that it will pass but New Englanders can be full of surprises. The campaigns are just getting underway and the spending will be all out.
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September 24th, 2014 at 7:00:43 AM permalink
Really hope the repeal does not go through. I can say if and when the casinos do go up in MA it would be the state in the Northeast that got things right even though the process had too many layers and hoops to jump. For MA it is one and done. Once the casino opens it would be a full fledge casino unlike Maryland and PA for instance where it was happening in stages. I am not even going to talk about NY because I find the whole process there to be absolutely pathetic. With Wynn and MGM in MA, the state is going to be the go to gaming destination for the Northeast. Especially for Wynn. Plus this is going to make Everett a great city given the clean up of the contaminated Monsanto land. This is a very detailed presentation on the process of cleaning up that piece of land that is going to be the future home of Wynn Everett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnQ4-uOJYDk
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September 24th, 2014 at 9:55:26 AM permalink
As you can imagine, Mohegan Sun is bitterly disappointed that they came up short in Everett.

MGM Springfield, as they're calling themselves, isn't wasting any time. They're hosting a Vendor Information Showcase along with a luncheon tomorrow at the DCU Center in Worcester.

Those who don't like the Boston accent will be pleased to know that Springfield residents, a mere 90 miles away, have no accent. If you go to Everett, however, be prepared to pahk your cah, order a tonic, or drink from the bubbler.
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September 24th, 2014 at 9:58:09 AM permalink
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As you can imagine, Mohegan Sun is bitterly disappointed that they came up short in Everett.

MGM Springfield, as they're calling themselves, isn't wasting any time. They're hosting a Vendor Information Showcase along with a luncheon tomorrow at the DCU Center in Worcester.

Those who don't like the Boston accent will be pleased to know that Springfield residents, a mere 90 miles away, have no accent. If you go to Everett, however, be prepared to pahk your cah, order a tonic, or drink from the bubbler.

And if you drive, don't forget to use your blinka. Have some chowda when you are there.
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September 24th, 2014 at 10:08:35 AM permalink
Mohegan Sun wanted a Boston destination not because this company wants Boston and the state of MA to prosper. Mohegan is trying to protect its CT turf. It is not in bad shape as a few may think since they control a few other destinations in the Northeast and planning to expand in New York. The real loser is Suffolk Downs because this race track played a huge part in bringing casino gaming to MA.

Even though it took a good while I say your state is doing an amazing job at getting these casinos off ground. You guys were able to attract the Vegas players especially Steve Wynn himself for your state's gaming industry.

I don't really mind the accent. If the service and the atmosphere are approached and executed with high standards it would actually be good marketing and a part of the Boston charm. Plus if the surrounding neighborhood is safe.
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September 24th, 2014 at 10:26:57 AM permalink
I was born in Southie and have the Boston accent despite living in Connecticut for decades. I visit two or three times a month. Maybe that's why I still have it. Funny thing is, I thought everyone else had an accent. :-) We have no problem laughing at ourselves. It's all in good fun.

Word is that Mohegan Sun is in financial trouble that could be serious and that Everett was going to help right the ship. Stay tuned.
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September 24th, 2014 at 10:46:55 AM permalink
Mohegan is heavily leveraged. That is their ball and chain/80lb gorilla. Which was also the reason why they lost out in MA. They had too many partners while Wynn is financing the whole thing themselves which makes them financially sound and can weather out the downturns in the future. Right now they are in "trouble" but not in dire straits. Mohegan is vying for a NY location so we will see how that goes. If Orange County gets a casino that would spell trouble for them if they get the Catskills.

The Boston accent would be a charm if not already. More so when MA becomes a gaming destination. Now you guys just have to work/improve on the traffic.
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September 24th, 2014 at 11:14:54 AM permalink
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Now you guys just have to work/improve on the traffic.

Regrettably there'll be MORE traffic.
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November 5th, 2014 at 10:01:44 AM permalink
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Voters will decide in November if any casinos will be allowed in the state. If Question 3 on the ballot does not pass there will be no casinos anywhere in Massachusetts. That's why the state hasn't collected any money from MGM for the site in Springfield yet. They're awaiting the outcome of the vote.

All the polls indicate that it will pass but New Englanders can be full of surprises. The campaigns are just getting underway and the spending will be all out.



By a margin of 60 percent to 40 percent voters have given the green light to casinos in Massachusetts. This is going to affect the casinos in neighboring states more than they probably realize. Will we see better rules and more offers in Ct? Time will tell.
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November 5th, 2014 at 10:20:38 AM permalink
Very glad that the repeal did not go through. It was such a waste of time. Mohegan Sun jumping into Revere in the last minute also dragged things further. Hope things go according to plan and on schedule. This is going to revive Springfield and put Everett on the map. Plus making MA the go to gaming destination for the Northeast. Knowing Steve Wynn is involved with Everett you know he is going to get things right. Would be even better if Wynn Everett has the same baccarat conditions as Wynn Las Vegas. I maybe even be tempted to move back to the Northeast.
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November 5th, 2014 at 10:59:52 AM permalink
What we've seen so far from Wynn has been very impressive. We won't be counting Mass license plates at the Connecticut casinos for much longer and, believe me, some days it seems like that's all you see.
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November 5th, 2014 at 11:14:38 AM permalink
Wynn has to redo the outward design and he is also rethinking the interior. Will be interesting to see the final product. The CT casinos are definitely in trouble. I can say given the proximity and location of these upcoming MA casinos, these other casinos in the Northeast are also in serious trouble. Why? MGM Springfield and Wynn Everett are situated in their hosting cities itself with an "easy" commute. You can get there with public transportation and the trip doesn't become some mission like you would in heading to a CT casino, an AC casino or even a PA casino.
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November 6th, 2014 at 3:02:46 AM permalink
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if Wynn Everett has the same baccarat conditions as Wynn Las Vegas. I maybe even be tempted to move back to the Northeast.



What baccarat conditions to you refer? Thanks.
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November 6th, 2014 at 11:34:35 AM permalink
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What baccarat conditions to you refer? Thanks.



If you have the chance and head out and experience a baccarat table in say at the MGM Grand, Palazzo and the Wynn, you will know what I mean. Especially at the Wynn/Encore.
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November 6th, 2014 at 1:24:58 PM permalink
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Very glad that the repeal did not go through...This is going to revive Springfield and put Everett on the map...



You're right. Steve is going to put Everett on the map. I don't know where Everett is until now.

I'm OK with Corps which pick and choose clienteles. Both insurance companies and casinos have the right to pick and choose customers. They may keep profitable ones and kicked out the rest. But, I'm not OK with a casino supervisor who says counting cards... is like stealing food from a buffet (a foodlifting offense), or video-taping a movie in a cinema (a piracy offense).
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November 6th, 2014 at 1:58:05 PM permalink
LOL. I have been to Boston many times. Never even knew there is an Everett. Until Wynn decided to build his casino. Or even Springfield for that matter. I heard of the name but never really paid any attention. MA has certainly brought me the attention the state is trying to draw. 2017 can't come soon enough. That is if everything goes smoothly.
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November 6th, 2014 at 2:22:45 PM permalink
I'm going there this weekend to look at property. I don't think it's too late.
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November 6th, 2014 at 2:41:13 PM permalink
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Those who don't like the Boston accent



It drives me nuts. Like they never learned
to pronounce their vowels correctly.
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November 6th, 2014 at 3:01:27 PM permalink
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It drives me nuts. Like they never learned
to pronounce their vowels correctly.



We don't need no stinkin' R's. That's why we drop 'em.

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November 6th, 2014 at 3:46:18 PM permalink
It's yard, not yod.
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November 6th, 2014 at 3:54:56 PM permalink
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If you have the chance and head out and experience a baccarat table in say at the MGM Grand, Palazzo and the Wynn, you will know what I mean. Especially at the Wynn/Encore.



That doesn't tell me much. The rules are the same I assume? Perhaps the food on offer in the high limit rooms are special? Good dealers? Don't get your point. Winning is also important!
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November 6th, 2014 at 7:45:53 PM permalink
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That doesn't tell me much. The rules are the same I assume? Perhaps the food on offer in the high limit rooms are special? Good dealers? Don't get your point. Winning is also important!



The drawing rules are the same but......

Well for one depending on the supervisor he/she will asks you if you want to have a new shoe if things are not going well in the high limit area. This also can happen if the shoe is great and you want to keep your profits. Not all Vegas casino do this but the ones I mentioned will. That is great customer service. You will definitely not find something like this especially in Atlantic City.

If this kind of service carries over to Wynn Everett you will be one hell of a loyal customer.
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November 7th, 2014 at 2:27:04 AM permalink
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The drawing rules are the same but......

Well for one depending on the supervisor he/she will asks you if you want to have a new shoe if things are not going well in the high limit area. This also can happen if the shoe is great and you want to keep your profits. Not all Vegas casino do this but the ones I mentioned will. That is great customer service. You will definitely not find something like this especially in Atlantic City.

If this kind of service carries over to Wynn Everett you will be one hell of a loyal customer.



Baccarat isn't my game, but I had thought I read many places that each hand is independent of the last one, sort of like roulette or craps? So what does the shoe have to do with anything other than superstition or? Thanks.
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November 7th, 2014 at 4:41:53 AM permalink
That's awesome. Good to know baccarat is not your game. Then you don't need to worry about it. You just got out of tangent. LOL.
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November 7th, 2014 at 12:17:58 PM permalink
The earliest that Wynn is predicted to open is the fall of 2017. That old Monsanto plant and the 30 acres that it sits on must be decontaminated to the tune of $30 million, a mere drop in the bucket for a $1.6 billion project. Special precautions must be taken because it sits on the Mystic river.

MGM Springfield is breaking ground this spring and is also looking at 2017. They are in the process of securing excavation permits and closing on land purchases. This project comes in at $800 million.

The third license has not been awarded but could involve Foxwoods. Operators didn't want to commit until after the referendum.

The Mashpee Wampanoag tribe has reached an agreement with the state and has proposed a $500 million resort casino on 150 acres in Taunton but still needs federal approval to take the land in trust.

The Aquinnah Wampanoags are attempting to build a gambling hall on Martha's Vineyard with electronic betting machines but the state says that they forfeited their rights.
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November 13th, 2014 at 3:56:59 AM permalink
As the Connecticut casinos continue to quake in their boots, the ever resourceful tribes have come up with a plan. There is talk of a joint effort between Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods to build a casino near the Massachusetts border to thwart MGM Springfield. They say it could be up and running somewhere in the I-91 corridor before MGM is built.
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November 13th, 2014 at 4:19:12 AM permalink
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As the Connecticut casinos continue to quake in their boots, the ever resourceful tribes have come up with a plan. There is talk of a joint effort between Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods to build a casino near the Massachusetts border to thwart MGM Springfield. They say it could be up and running somewhere in the I-91 corridor before MGM is built.

Yikes! What about the land, is it available and eligible? Licensing? Seems like there'd be lots of red tape before breaking ground.
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November 13th, 2014 at 4:39:50 AM permalink
Scientists noticed a drift in gamblers population. They are moving up with the final destination at North Pole. Once there, they can feed themselves on raw fish during winter month and in summer their prime food will become seal's fat.
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November 13th, 2014 at 7:29:28 AM permalink
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Yikes! What about the land, is it available and eligible? Licensing? Seems like there'd be lots of red tape before breaking ground.



Good philanthropists that they are, the casinos are pitching it as a way to help the state keep the money within it's borders. It's all about the state. Who knew? :-)

As long as one tribe doesn't gain an advantage over the other, there may not be as much red tape as one would think. It's amazing what the state can do when properly motivated.
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November 14th, 2014 at 1:22:10 AM permalink
Have now read the article in yesterday's paper. Very bizarre because there's still be cannibalization, looks like a blocking move. Might have a chance but the additional overhead reduces available profits for all.
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November 14th, 2014 at 6:14:44 AM permalink
My question is who keeps lending these guys money?
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November 14th, 2014 at 9:29:06 AM permalink
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My question is who keeps lending these guys money?

Damn good question it is, really fancy operators IMO.
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November 14th, 2014 at 11:18:16 AM permalink
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My question is who keeps lending these guys money?



A mix of investment banks, private equity, oversea investments and directly/indirectly the general public. Debt products and structuring are the favorite go to route for the casino industry.
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November 14th, 2014 at 1:17:56 PM permalink
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November 24th, 2014 at 3:52:59 PM permalink
They're all ready at it and ground hasn't even been broken.

Massachusetts regulators are talking about requiring casinos to reward patrons for voluntarily setting limits for time and money spent at machines. The programs are in place in some countries but this would be the first attempt in the U.S. The programs are called play management, limit setting or pre commitment.

Gotta create jobs for all the cronies.
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November 25th, 2014 at 12:28:46 PM permalink
Those limits I am sure are going to be diluted and watered down. It would be good implementation but that would be interesting to see how this all would pan out under execution.

Those are not cronies! Around these parts they are called consultants. LOL.

From the looks of things MA is really putting on many levels of restrictions on its up and coming gaming industry. If you have the discipline and self control these restrictions doesn't really matter much. Yet 95% of the patrons that visit a casino are uncontrollable and greedy souls.
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April 7th, 2015 at 11:39:37 AM permalink
The mayors of Somerville, Boston and Revere are a bunch of low hanging fruit sour grapes. Especially Revere. Wynn getting the Boston license is one of the best things for the casino industry for MA. Along with MGM in Springfield. This is going to put MA in a strong position for becoming the premier destination of the Northeast. If Mohegan Sun wins in a few years time after the casino opens things would crumble since that entity is poorly run and over leveraged.

Look what Wynn single handedly did here for Vegas. Not to forget Macau even though that gambling mecca has spiraled down somewhat due to the crackdown.
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December 7th, 2015 at 6:55:33 AM permalink
http://www.ggrasia.com/judge-rejects-boston-bid-to-block-wynn-everett/

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2015/12/how-much-has-the-city-of-boston-spent-on-its-wynn.html

Really looking forward to 2018 and the Boston Mayor is an idiot. Like a typical idiot patron visiting the casino doubling down when the losses keep getting bigger. Already $1.25 million wasted on some crap lawsuit.
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December 7th, 2015 at 7:22:46 AM permalink
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http://www.ggrasia.com/judge-rejects-boston-bid-to-block-wynn-everett/

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2015/12/how-much-has-the-city-of-boston-spent-on-its-wynn.html

Really looking forward to 2018 and the Boston Mayor is an idiot. Like a typical idiot patron visiting the casino doubling down when the losses keep getting bigger. Already $1.25 million wasted on some crap lawsuit.

Did I remember to say 'welcome back'?

Had to start the thread from the beginning, all good.
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December 7th, 2015 at 7:34:57 AM permalink
Steve Wynn makes changes to his casino in Everett and it becomes a much better version than its previous. MGM makes changes in its Springfield destination and it goes to the crapper. Wynn way back tried to open a casino in Boston but the city blew him off. Like Foxborough. Now Boston is trying to milk/blackmail Wynn with this nonsense. The city of Everett was smart enough and know a good deal coming and welcomed Wynn with open arms. Now not only the city of Everett but the whole Boston area is much better for it. Wynn is remediating an area that was abused by Monsanto for decades and ignored by everyone because no one dared to touch it. Only issue I have is that MIT and Harvard are nearby. Especially MIT. If my game of baccarat gets limited in terms of playing conditions I know who is to blame.
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December 7th, 2015 at 8:34:48 AM permalink
MIT?
Midgets in transit?
Tee, hee.
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December 7th, 2015 at 9:17:27 AM permalink
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MIT?
Midgets in transit?
Tee, hee.



Midgets in Transit? Monkeys in Tantum? Mojo Inverted Transparency?

Either way nothing is going to get in the way to get that darn casino built in Everett!

Atlantic City/CT is in for some major trouble.
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December 7th, 2015 at 9:35:42 AM permalink
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Midgets in Transit? Monkeys in Tantum? Mojo Inverted Transparency?

Either way nothing is going to get in the way to get that darn casino built in Everett!

Atlantic City/CT is in for some major trouble.


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December 7th, 2015 at 9:50:31 AM permalink
I just put my enigma machine away. I am not taking it out again.
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December 7th, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM permalink
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I just put my enigma machine away. I am not taking it out again.


I'm an enigma, put your machine away, it's outdated.
You still win, I already admitted defeat.
What? You want to be payed like you doubled your bet, after the fact?
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December 7th, 2015 at 10:43:19 AM permalink
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What? You want to be payed like you doubled your bet, after the fact?
Good luck on that...



Whatchu been talkin' about???? I would be happy with a half eaten Happy Meal!
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December 7th, 2015 at 11:14:49 AM permalink
Mohegan Sun is partnered with the Cowlitz tribe to build and run a new tribal casino now being built near Portland, Oregon.

It will be a big property, but not as large as their Connecticut casino.
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December 7th, 2015 at 12:03:00 PM permalink
Mohegan Sun is scrounging all around to stay relevant. Can't blame them since CT is losing that "monopoly" in a few years.

Funny how history is playing out. Back then Indian tribes team up to protect themselves from the white man. Now they team up to rip him off. Ha ha.
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December 7th, 2015 at 12:58:08 PM permalink
Who's scalping who these days?
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