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February 1st, 2024 at 8:08:19 AM permalink
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Has anyone seen '5 Against the House'?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048077/reference/

Apparently its a heist move, like the Sinatra version of Ocean's Eleven but considered to be better. Sounds interesting.
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Yes I saw it years ago. They rob Harold's Club.

The heist was better thought out but Ocean's had the better characters imo.

I forgot the specifics but they utilized a waiters tray on wheels to double as a lockbox or something to that effect. Basically they wheeled the money out under security noses.

This of course is before cameras so....

I have always been a fan of Brian Keith so for that reason alone worth one viewing at least.
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February 1st, 2024 at 8:16:52 AM permalink
I've seen it. More realistic than O-11, not that it's a problem free plot. Film Noir-ish, good if you're a Kim Novak fan

I can't quite remember the idea they come up with to pull off a robbery, or if there are good scenes of casino games people are playing
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February 1st, 2024 at 8:45:45 AM permalink
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I think I might have seen the possible origin (at least on film) of a common game of chance. In a 1951 movie called "The Mob" the bartender has a large jar full of water on the bar. At the bottom is a shot glass. There's a slot cut in the top where you can drop a coin. If it lands in the shot glass you get a free drink.
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My Uncle's bar had one of those in the mid-1960s, and as I remember it, it looked really old, but everything does to a kid. When I started working there twenty years later, that was one of the few things that had changed.
As an aside- my Uncle thought his bar was perfect as is, and was thrilled when a location scout called about the possibility of filming in it. The people came and checked it out and told him it was perfect. They were searching for a run-down 1960s dive bar, and his fit the bill. He threw them out and finally agreed to redecorate.
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February 1st, 2024 at 8:52:09 AM permalink
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I've seen it. More realistic than O-11, not that it's a problem free plot. Film Noir-ish, good if you're a Kim Novak fan

I can't quite remember the idea they come up with to pull off a robbery, or if there are good scenes of casino games people are playing
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I vaguely remember it. I was talking to someone about the original O11 when they suggested this movie. This was years before the remakes. I don't recall the movie, but I remember liking O11 better. I almost always remember if I liked or disliked a movie, but generally forget most details.
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April 19th, 2025 at 9:53:42 AM permalink
I think "A Big Hand for the Little Lady" ought to be remade because it could probably be a much better poker movie. I didn't see the end coming.

Looked like one thing, but became something else.

I wouldn't say it's worth watching, so much as it should be a remake. It should still be an old western though, but needs tightening up.

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A Big Hand for the Little Lady (released in the UK under the misleading title Big Deal at Dodge City, since the film is set in Laredo, Texas) is a 1966 American Western film made by Eden Productions Inc. and released by Warner Bros. The film was produced and directed by Fielder Cook from a screenplay by Sidney Carroll, adapted from their TV play Big Deal in Laredo, which aired on The DuPont Show of the Week in 1962.

The film stars Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward and Jason Robards. The original TV play starred Walter Matthau as Meredith.[

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April 19th, 2025 at 10:35:42 AM permalink
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I think "A Big Hand for the Little Lady" ought to be remade because it could probably be a much better poker movie. I didn't see the end coming.

Looked like one thing, but became something else.

I wouldn't say it's worth watching, so much as it should be a remake. It should still be an old western though, but needs tightening up.

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A Big Hand for the Little Lady (released in the UK under the misleading title Big Deal at Dodge City, since the film is set in Laredo, Texas) is a 1966 American Western film made by Eden Productions Inc. and released by Warner Bros. The film was produced and directed by Fielder Cook from a screenplay by Sidney Carroll, adapted from their TV play Big Deal in Laredo, which aired on The DuPont Show of the Week in 1962.

The film stars Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward and Jason Robards. The original TV play starred Walter Matthau as Meredith.[


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I remember I liked the movie, and that it had a twist ending but that's about it.
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April 19th, 2025 at 7:47:08 PM permalink
Apologies if I said this before in this old thread, but off the top of my head I like:

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November 12th, 2025 at 10:56:44 AM permalink
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March 25th, 2026 at 5:11:39 AM permalink
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'Big Hand for the Little Lady' is my favourite movie.
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I just saw this movie "A Big Hand for the Little Lady." It was very memorable and has perhaps the best cast of any poker movie ever.

The cast: Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Kevin McCarthy and Charles Bickford. How can a movie with a cast like that be so completely unknown?

It is a very unusual film set in the old West about a family passing through town and the head of the family who gets suckered into playing a high-stakes poker game (five card draw) and seems on the verge of losing everything. And, at the crucial moment when he is on the edge of either winning or going bust, he becomes too ill to continue and his wife, by default, is brought in to take his place. The Wife admits to the other players that she has never played a card game of any kind and doesn't even understand what the cards are.

The movie, despite the BRIEF overview I gave, has depth and the script is intelligent. There are several wonderful twists and turns, but if I let it out of the bag, it would ruin it for you. Just give the movie a chance--it's a buried treasure.
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March 25th, 2026 at 2:55:14 PM permalink
I posted about the movie Life Stinks, in which a billionaire bets most of his fortune that he can spend 30 days, but someone didn't think that was a gamble and made it their own thread.
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March 26th, 2026 at 1:43:38 PM permalink
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'Big Hand for the Little Lady' is my favourite movie.
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I just saw this movie "A Big Hand for the Little Lady." It was very memorable and has perhaps the best cast of any poker movie ever.

The cast: Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Kevin McCarthy and Charles Bickford. How can a movie with a cast like that be so completely unknown?

It is a very unusual film set in the old West about a family passing through town and the head of the family who gets suckered into playing a high-stakes poker game (five card draw) and seems on the verge of losing everything. And, at the crucial moment when he is on the edge of either winning or going bust, he becomes too ill to continue and his wife, by default, is brought in to take his place. The Wife admits to the other players that she has never played a card game of any kind and doesn't even understand what the cards are.

The movie, despite the BRIEF overview I gave, has depth and the script is intelligent. There are several wonderful twists and turns, but if I let it out of the bag, it would ruin it for you. Just give the movie a chance--it's a buried treasure.
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Add that this movie needs to be in the fantasy department because nothing like this would actually ever happen on planet earth
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March 26th, 2026 at 4:02:46 PM permalink
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'Big Hand for the Little Lady' is my favourite movie.
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I just saw this movie "A Big Hand for the Little Lady." It was very memorable and has perhaps the best cast of any poker movie ever.

The cast: Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Kevin McCarthy and Charles Bickford. How can a movie with a cast like that be so completely unknown?

It is a very unusual film set in the old West about a family passing through town and the head of the family who gets suckered into playing a high-stakes poker game (five card draw) and seems on the verge of losing everything. And, at the crucial moment when he is on the edge of either winning or going bust, he becomes too ill to continue and his wife, by default, is brought in to take his place. The Wife admits to the other players that she has never played a card game of any kind and doesn't even understand what the cards are.

The movie, despite the BRIEF overview I gave, has depth and the script is intelligent. There are several wonderful twists and turns, but if I let it out of the bag, it would ruin it for you. Just give the movie a chance--it's a buried treasure.
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Add that this movie needs to be in the fantasy department because nothing like this would actually ever happen on planet earth
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It’s not too fantastic. Fonda was a compulsive gambler (problem gambler). He joined the game, I suppose thinking he could quit. He was playing in a wealthy crowd and over his head. If I remember correctly, he didn’t quit like in a nervous breakdown, he looked like was having a a heart attack. They simply gave his wife a chance to win it all back on just one hand. She didn’t have to know how to play.

Been awhile since I saw it though.
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'Big Hand for the Little Lady' is my favourite movie.
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I just saw this movie "A Big Hand for the Little Lady." It was very memorable and has perhaps the best cast of any poker movie ever.

The cast: Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Kevin McCarthy and Charles Bickford. How can a movie with a cast like that be so completely unknown?

It is a very unusual film set in the old West about a family passing through town and the head of the family who gets suckered into playing a high-stakes poker game (five card draw) and seems on the verge of losing everything. And, at the crucial moment when he is on the edge of either winning or going bust, he becomes too ill to continue and his wife, by default, is brought in to take his place. The Wife admits to the other players that she has never played a card game of any kind and doesn't even understand what the cards are.

The movie, despite the BRIEF overview I gave, has depth and the script is intelligent. There are several wonderful twists and turns, but if I let it out of the bag, it would ruin it for you. Just give the movie a chance--it's a buried treasure.
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Add that this movie needs to be in the fantasy department because nothing like this would actually ever happen on planet earth
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It’s not too fantastic. Fonda was a compulsive gambler (problem gambler). He joined the game, I suppose thinking he could quit. He was playing in a wealthy crowd and over his head. If I remember correctly, he didn’t quit like in a nervous breakdown, he looked like was having a a heart attack. They simply gave his wife a chance to win it all back on just one hand. She didn’t have to know how to play.

Been awhile since I saw it though.
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There's a twist at the end of the movie which makes everything more plausible.



It's a scam - think "the Sting" The wife is an expert card player who is pretending to know nothing and the husband's heart attack is faked. There are more twists- others who are in on the scam. It's really an interesting movie.

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March 26th, 2026 at 6:53:48 PM permalink
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'Big Hand for the Little Lady' is my favourite movie.
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I just saw this movie "A Big Hand for the Little Lady." It was very memorable and has perhaps the best cast of any poker movie ever.

The cast: Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Kevin McCarthy and Charles Bickford. How can a movie with a cast like that be so completely unknown?

It is a very unusual film set in the old West about a family passing through town and the head of the family who gets suckered into playing a high-stakes poker game (five card draw) and seems on the verge of losing everything. And, at the crucial moment when he is on the edge of either winning or going bust, he becomes too ill to continue and his wife, by default, is brought in to take his place. The Wife admits to the other players that she has never played a card game of any kind and doesn't even understand what the cards are.

The movie, despite the BRIEF overview I gave, has depth and the script is intelligent. There are several wonderful twists and turns, but if I let it out of the bag, it would ruin it for you. Just give the movie a chance--it's a buried treasure.
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Add that this movie needs to be in the fantasy department because nothing like this would actually ever happen on planet earth
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It’s not too fantastic. Fonda was a compulsive gambler (problem gambler). He joined the game, I suppose thinking he could quit. He was playing in a wealthy crowd and over his head. If I remember correctly, he didn’t quit like in a nervous breakdown, he looked like was having a a heart attack. They simply gave his wife a chance to win it all back on just one hand. She didn’t have to know how to play.

Been awhile since I saw it though.
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There's a twist at the end of the movie which makes everything more plausible.



It's a scam - think "the Sting" The wife is an expert card player who is pretending to know nothing and the husband's heart attack is faked. There are more twists- others who are in on the scam. It's really an interesting movie.


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My point was that movies like this and The Sting are generally implausible because this type of thing doesn't happen in real life. There are stings for sure but they usually involve very few people because the more people you have in on it the more chance you have of it going wrong. 1 or 2 or 3 people can maybe pull it off but dozens and dozens and dozens, probably not. Only in the movies.
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March 26th, 2026 at 9:57:04 PM permalink
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'Big Hand for the Little Lady' is my favourite movie.
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I just saw this movie "A Big Hand for the Little Lady." It was very memorable and has perhaps the best cast of any poker movie ever.

The cast: Henry Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Jason Robards, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Kevin McCarthy and Charles Bickford. How can a movie with a cast like that be so completely unknown?

It is a very unusual film set in the old West about a family passing through town and the head of the family who gets suckered into playing a high-stakes poker game (five card draw) and seems on the verge of losing everything. And, at the crucial moment when he is on the edge of either winning or going bust, he becomes too ill to continue and his wife, by default, is brought in to take his place. The Wife admits to the other players that she has never played a card game of any kind and doesn't even understand what the cards are.

The movie, despite the BRIEF overview I gave, has depth and the script is intelligent. There are several wonderful twists and turns, but if I let it out of the bag, it would ruin it for you. Just give the movie a chance--it's a buried treasure.
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Add that this movie needs to be in the fantasy department because nothing like this would actually ever happen on planet earth
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It’s not too fantastic. Fonda was a compulsive gambler (problem gambler). He joined the game, I suppose thinking he could quit. He was playing in a wealthy crowd and over his head. If I remember correctly, he didn’t quit like in a nervous breakdown, he looked like was having a a heart attack. They simply gave his wife a chance to win it all back on just one hand. She didn’t have to know how to play.

Been awhile since I saw it though.
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There's a twist at the end of the movie which makes everything more plausible.



It's a scam - think "the Sting" The wife is an expert card player who is pretending to know nothing and the husband's heart attack is faked. There are more twists- others who are in on the scam. It's really an interesting movie.


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My point was that movies like this and The Sting are generally implausible because this type of thing doesn't happen in real life. There are stings for sure but they usually involve very few people because the more people you have in on it the more chance you have of it going wrong. 1 or 2 or 3 people can maybe pull it off but dozens and dozens and dozens, probably not. Only in the movies.
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Yes, kind of like movies where an archaeologist finds the Lost Ark of the Covenant, or where long-deceased baseball players show up at a cornfield in Iowa.

There aren't many things that are engaging enough in their real form to make an engaging movie. The things I do in a casino certainly aren't.
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