18 shot Walmart El Paso
https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-active-shooter-walmart-mall
Typical far-right anti-immigrant nonsense. Honestly, it seems like it could have been written by Tucker Carlson. That’s how normalized the hatred on the right has become.
lots and lots of guns in Texas - the most lax gun laws in the country
what happened to the theory that people being allowed to easily own guns is going to enable them to stop a maniac - the theory is not holding up
Quote: ams288I read the shooter’s manifesto.
I think reading a lunatic's manifesto is one of the last things I would ever waste time doing.
Quote: lilredroosterPatrick Crusius
lots and lots of guns in Texas - the most lax gun laws in the country
what happened to the theory that people being allowed to easily own guns is going to enable them to stop a maniac - the theory is not holding up
I was thinking the same thing. One report said there were 1000 people in there. Cant imagine 1k people in a walmart but I guess it is possible. No one nearby had a gun on them in texas?
Quote: JohnzimboI think reading a lunatic's manifesto is one of the last things I would ever waste time doing.
If the part about using an AK47 was extracted, the manifesto reads like a personal opinion piece on Fox. The act of pulling a trigger may be uncommon, but the perspective of the manifesto isn't all that uncommon.
Quote: redietzIf the part about using an AK47 was extracted, the manifesto reads like a personal opinion piece on Fox. The act of pulling a trigger may be uncommon, but the perspective of the manifesto isn't all that uncommon.
Many opinions similar to those in the manifesto have been expressed by right wingers on this very board.
His outrage at the idea of Dem candidates saying they’d provide healthcare to illegal immigrants seems like it could have been copied and pasted from the 2020 Election thread.
Quote: ams288Many opinions similar to those in the manifesto have been expressed by right wingers on this very board.
His outrage at the idea of Dem candidates saying they’d provide healthcare to illegal immigrants seems like it could have been copied and pasted from the 2020 Election thread.
Once again a hate filled post toward other posters here from you. Because you equate being against free HC for illegals to shooting up a Walmart as normal thoughts.
Thanks for making my point each and everyday.
Oh yea, thoughts and prayers as Tony Danza always said.
Quote: lilredroosterPatrick Crusius
lots and lots of guns in Texas - the most lax gun laws in the country
what happened to the theory that people being allowed to easily own guns is going to enable them to stop a maniac - the theory is not holding up
I posted a link showing how it does hold up not long ago. Nobody said it works every time.
Quote: SteverinosNever mind. Not worth it.
Translated to, "don't want to open my mouth and prove what everyone already knows"😂
Quote: MaxPenTranslated to, "don't want to open my mouth and prove what everyone already knows"😂
Or, "can't find a way to blame the gun not the person."
Quote: BozOnce again a hate filled post toward other posters here from you. Because you equate being against free HC for illegals to shooting up a Walmart as normal thoughts.
Thanks for making my point each and everyday.
Oh yea, thoughts and prayers as Tony Danza always said.
How did I know you’d be more upset with my post than with the right winger who murdered 20 innocent people?
Quote: MaxPenTranslated to, "don't want to open my mouth and prove what everyone already knows"😂
Trust me, I wouldn’t expect a birther who believes in conspiracies to denounce his racist president.
History won’t be kind to you.
Quote: SteverinosTrust me, I wouldn’t expect a birther who believes in conspiracies to denounce his racist president.
History won’t be kind to you.
If we get a racist president then maybe you would have a point. Trump does not have a racist bone in his body.
Unlike your candidate Kamala, who has shown herself to be a brown supremacist. Do you denounce her calls for reparations?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/09/shoot-them-trump-laughs-off-supporters-demand-violence-against-migrants/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3598bf90bc1a
Quote: lilredroosterPatrick Crusius
lots and lots of guns in Texas - the most lax gun laws in the country
what happened to the theory that people being allowed to easily own guns is going to enable them to stop a maniac - the theory is not holding up
Seriously, your "point" is so weak. And what happens when there is no 2nd Amendment? China is a good example. The people of Hong Kong are going ballistic right now. They are willing to die fighting to prevent being subject to being hauled off to China at any time. They are willing to die to be free.
No guns = no freedom.
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my mission is research
Quote: AZDuffman
Unlike your candidate Kamala, who has shown herself to be a brown supremacist. Do you denounce her calls for reparations?
Why do you think reparations is racist? Reparations can be paid to anyone who has suffered wrong or are you making the claim no one was ever wronged in the American slave trade?
The only possible wrong is misidentifying people on either side of the issue. If a family inherited anything from grandparents that was stolen, like land or property, it's not yours to keep even if you didn't steal it yourself.
Quote: rxwineWhy do you think reparations is racist? Reparations can be paid to anyone who has suffered wrong or are you making the claim no one was ever wronged in the American slave trade?
The only possible wrong is misidentifying people on either side of the issue. If a family inherited anything from grandparents that was stolen, like land or property, it's not yours to keep even if you didn't steal it yourself.
I'm for reparations as soon as I get that plantation I never owned.
Does Kamala's reparation plan include giving north America back to the indigenous tribes and then gtfo herself?Quote: rxwineWhy do you think reparations is racist? Reparations can be paid to anyone who has suffered wrong or are you making the claim no one was ever wronged in the American slave trade?
The only possible wrong is misidentifying people on either side of the issue. If a family inherited anything from grandparents that was stolen, like land or property, it's not yours to keep even if you didn't steal it yourself.
Quote: MaxPenI'm for reparations as soon as I get that plantation I never owned.
The thing is, our tax dollars have been used before to pay people hurt by some government supported wrongdoing, like doing experiments on soldiers. Our tax dollars often pay for people wrongfully convicted who spent multiple years in jail. You didn't have anything to do with it I'm sure, but the idea is hardly unprecedented.
What makes everyone pause, is probably the actual staggering cost which is probably owed. What is owed for slavery, or having your children stolen and sold?
I don't think anyone will pay for the actual cost, it would just be some compensation. We would end up with a bargain probably compared to what's owed.
But, I don't think it will happen, no matter who becomes President.
Quote: rxwineActually what cracks me up is people saying it would be too hard to figure out. Mixed families and all that. WTF, some of the smartest people in the world can't work out fractions?
Yeah, because it’s that easy! Just do the fraction thingie, super ez I learned those in like 3’rd grade!! 🤦♂️
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Quote: MaxPenI'm for reparations as soon as I get that plantation I never owned.
Descendants of slaves already got reparations. In fact, they hit the friggin jackpot. If their ancestors had not been enslaved hundreds of years ago, they would be living in some African sh*thole right now instead of enjoying the good life in the greatest country in the world. As awful as the thought of slavery seems now, Black Americans should consider themselves lucky that there was slavery.
Quote: bobbartopBlack Americans should consider themselves lucky that there was slavery.
Definitely, quote of the day there.
Quote: petroglyphDoes Kamala's reparation plan include giving north America back to the indigenous tribes and then gtfo herself?
A variation of that has been made against the idea of reparations. The old familiar slippery slope. It's kind of a sad argument though. Because it doesn't imply we weren't wrong or that nobody deserves anything, it just implies we're afraid everyone will want what they are owed and it is way too much.
Quote: rxwineDefinitely, quote of the day there.
Thanks, especially since it's absolutely true. Show me a rational Black American who would trade his life in the United States for a life of eating grub worms and mud biscuits in Zimbabwe. You can't, there ain't none.
Quote: bobbartopThanks, especially since it's absolutely true. Show me a rational Black American who would trade his life in the United States for a life of eating grub worms and mud biscuits in Zimbabwe. You can't, there ain't none.
I thought Chicago and Baltimore were hell on earth?
Quote: billryanI thought Chicago and Baltimore were hell on earth?
No human would want to live there.
Quote: billryanI thought Chicago and Baltimore were hell on earth?
Some sh**hole in Africa is worse.
Quote: RSSome sh**hole in Africa is worse.
Seems safer than el paso texas right now
Makes me wonder if this whole thing isn't some sort of staged ANTIFA operation or something.
Quote: BozOnce again a hate filled post toward other posters here from you. Because you equate being against free HC for illegals to shooting up a Walmart as normal thoughts.
Thanks for making my point each and everyday.
Oh yea, thoughts and prayers as Tony Danza always said.
Not free. Access to it, paying what others here do. I don't support it either, but at least be accurate about what you're protesting.
Quote: bobbartopBlack Americans should consider themselves lucky that there was slavery.
Lucky?
Estimates are that between 17 and 100 million slaves were taken from Africa. The Arabs ran the slave trade for more than a thousand years. They still do. The more fortunate slaves were sold to European traders and shipped to America. The less fortunate were forced to walk through the deserts to Moslem countries, where all of the males were castrated. Some had their penises cut off as well.
Dr. Marcus Garvey Jr.
Babies born to female slaves were killed.
Their slaves suffered a 95% mortality rate.
The Arabs don’t abide mixed races. That is why to this day, despite the millions of African slaves brought into the Moslem countries, mixed race people are so rare in the middle east, and Spain and Portugal, where the Moslems ruled for eight hundred years.
Quote: TankoLucky?
Yes, lucky. Obviously I mean the modern day Black American, not the people who had to go through slavery. I thought that was obvious when I wrote it. It was, wasn't it?
Quote: darkozSeems safer than el paso texas right now
Maybe. Maybe not. Why are millions of Africans trying to get to Europe?
The crime of slavery cannot be condoned by using the results of the crime of colonialism.Quote: bobbartop. Show me a rational Black American who would trade his life in the United States for a life of eating grub worms and mud biscuits in Zimbabwe. You can't, there ain't none.
Then also, most of the American Black slaves came from West Africa. Those countries have a better record than Zimbabwé.
Except when a greedy dictator is ruining the country. But then, would you prefer your country ruined by a rational dictator or a mad elected president or prime minister?
Quote: bobbartopThanks, especially since it's absolutely true. Show me a rational Black American who would trade his life in the United States for a life of eating grub worms and mud biscuits in Zimbabwe. You can't, there ain't none.
Zimbabwe is east Africa. But it is quite obvious your entire views of world history is not based on anything resembling facts or accuracy. If history was drastically different, none of our parents would have met and none of us would exist at all. I guess we can call that luck. But some of that history was completely wrong in every possible way.
Do you think owning guns would make them better? It would only create civil war. (Or rather, uncivil)Quote: bobbartopAnd what happens when there is no 2nd Amendment? China is a good example. The people of Hong Kong are going ballistic right now. They are willing to die fighting to prevent being subject to being hauled off to China at any time. They are willing to die to be free.
No guns = no freedom.
Why do you overlook the finest examples of happy, rich, peaceful free countries? Europe! Canada!
Less crimes, less deads, less prisoners than in the US.
No guns = more freedom to enjoy your political liberties.
Quote: bobbartopWhy are millions of Africans trying to get to Europe?
So they can hitch a ride to the USA, were the dems are promising them free health care.
No need to. Because in Europe, we have it; we don’t need to wait for promises.Quote: TankoSo they can hitch a ride to the USA, were the dems are promising them free health care.
Quote: kubikulannThe crime of slavery cannot be condoned by using the results of the crime of colonialism.
Then also, most of the American Black slaves came from West Africa. Those countries have a better record than Zimbabwé.
Except when a greedy dictator is ruining the country. But then, would you prefer your country ruined by a rational dictator or a mad elected president or prime minister?
Who's condoning slavery? Me? Perhaps you misread.
Someone brought up reparations. My point still stands, and it's a good one. They got their "reparations" already. They're living in the United States, the best country in the world, instead of the African Continent, where all 52 countries are sh*tholes, not just the single country I mentioned. By the way, Rhodesia was once one of the best places to live in Africa. I don't know where you come up with "West Africa had a better record". You're guessing. And you're guessing wrong.
‘Redistribution’ is the correct concept. If I was born rich because my fathers stole yours, and you ended up poor, then you are entitled to a share.
Hence, it is not the American State that owes reparations. It is the American rich who must distribute their wealth.
Quote: TomGHow do we go from a shooting in Texas to slavery in America by the second page?
Zimbabwe is east Africa. But it is quite obvious your entire views of world history is not based on anything resembling facts or accuracy. If history was drastically different, none of our parents would have met and none of us would exist at all. I guess we can call that luck. But some of that history was completely wrong in every possible way.
Someone brought up reparations, that's how we changed subject by the second page. You can scroll as well as I can.
Btw, Zimbabwe is South Africa, not East, and was modern and prosperous not too long ago, before it went communist. And you don't know fk about my views of world history. My statement still stands, and it's a simple statement. Modern Day Black Americans are lucky there was slavery, or they would not have had the opportunity to be born in the United States. At no point did I condone slavery. Wtf is wrong with you people? Who condones slavery? Nobody, that's who. gtfo
Quote: bobbartopYes, lucky. Obviously I mean the modern day Black American, not the people who had to go through slavery. I thought that was obvious when I wrote it. It was, wasn't it?
I understood you perfectly. I think most men of good will did, as well.
Quote: kubikulann‘Reparations’ is a Christian concept. You must pay for your ancestors’ fault.
‘Redistribution’ is the correct concept. If I was born rich because my fathers stole yours, and you ended up poor, then you are entitled to a share.
Hence, it is not the American State that owes reparations. It is the American rich who must distribute their wealth.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was talking to a commie. Goodbye.
