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March 22nd, 2019 at 4:06:29 PM permalink
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I have read that you were in your 80's! :/



Don’t believe everything you read.

Good life lesson.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 5:30:49 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I have read that you were in your 80's! :/



He’s posted some stuff at DT before which would have put him in his early 70s. Now he’s in his 60s. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Good life lesson: always take anything EB says with a massive grain of salt.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 7:01:47 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

He’s posted some stuff at DT before which would have put him in his early 70s.



No I didn't. I've always been up front
about exactly what my age is.
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March 22nd, 2019 at 9:54:41 PM permalink
The campaign cycle really should be shorter. Does anyone really benefit from this much time before the election? It just exhausts and antagonizes everyone
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March 23rd, 2019 at 1:36:46 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

Does anyone really benefit from this much time before the election?



Sure.

The cable news stations and the NY Times.

CNN viewership alone was up 76% in 2016 due to the Donald Trump Show.

Trump hate news revived what was the "dying NY Times” in 2016.

In 2017, their digital subscriptions surpassed $1 billion.

“Mark Thompson, the chief executive of The Times, said the company was pleased with the “continued strong retention” among the users who subscribed to The Times amid the 2016 presidential election.”

Show’s over once Trump leaves office. Then it’s back to survival mode.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 5:19:46 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Sure.

The cable news stations and the NY Times.

CNN viewership alone was up 76% in 2016 due to the Donald Trump Show.

Trump hate news revived what was the "dying NY Times” in 2016.

In 2017, their digital subscriptions surpassed $1 billion.

“Mark Thompson, the chief executive of The Times, said the company was pleased with the “continued strong retention” among the users who subscribed to The Times amid the 2016 presidential election.”

Show’s over once Trump leaves office. Then it’s back to survival mode.



That gives them almost 6 more years to make every dollar possible.

Just another example of Trump providing economic prosperity for anyone with vision and work ethic.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 5:25:49 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

The campaign cycle really should be shorter. Does anyone really benefit from this much time before the election? It just exhausts and antagonizes everyone



Besides the cable news networks there is the political-industrial complex. These people produce little of value and live as leeches in DC. Sort of like some groupie to a neighborhood gangster, hoping a few ill-gotten bucks get thrown their way.

A guy like Beta announces and gets several million in early donations. He hires "advisors." A very few, Dick Morris comes to mind, will give good advice. Any pol does need 1-2 around him to give a detached look. Others give dubious advice, for example when Algore hired a woman to teach him to be a more alpha male (you can't make this stuff up!)

A reason the establishment hates Trump is he did not hire many of these people, instead going on raw instinct about what people care about.

So Beta hires an advisor. Advisor will end up hiring some firm or firms to poll and focus-group people. All to fine-tune a message, which he probably does not have at the moment. Some money may go to hire fundraisers to get even more money.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 5:28:28 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

That gives them almost 6 more years to make every dollar possible.

Just another example of Trump providing economic prosperity for anyone with vision and work ethic.



Do you think there is a single executive at CNN/MSNBC/NYTimes/etc. that has said out loud at a business meeting that they want Trump to get re-elected? I think he is CLEARLY good for their business.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 5:38:30 AM permalink
615 Candidates!

"As of March 18, 2019, 615 candidates have filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to run for president."

"The following 18 elected officials and notable public figures—16 Democrats and two Republicans—have filed to run for president with the Federal Election Commission or announced exploratory committees.

Cory Booker (D), a U.S. senator from New Jersey, announced that he was running for president on February 1, 2019.[3]
Pete Buttigieg (D), the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, announced that he was running for president on January 23, 2019.[4]
Julian Castro (D), a former U.S. secretary of housing and urban development and San Antonio mayor, formally announced his candidacy on January 12, 2019.[5]
John Delaney (D), a former U.S. representative from Maryland, filed to run for president on August 10, 2017.
Tulsi Gabbard (D), a U.S. representative from Hawaii, announced that she had decided to run for president on January 11, 2019.[6]
Kirsten Gillibrand (D), a U.S. senator from New York, announced that she was forming an exploratory committee on January 15, 2019.[7] She officially announced she was running on March 17, 2019.[8]
Kamala Harris (D), a U.S. senator from California, announced that she was running for president on January 21, 2019.[9]
John Hickenlooper (D), a former governor of Colorado, announced that he was running for president on March 4, 2019.[10]
Jay Inslee (D), the governor of Washington, announced that he was running for president on March 1, 2019.[11]
Amy Klobuchar (D), a U.S. senator from Minnesota, formally announced she was running for president on February 10, 2019.[12]
Wayne Messam (D), the mayor of Miramar, Florida, announced he was forming an exploratory committee on March 13, 2019.[13]
Beto O'Rourke, former U.S. representative from Texas, formally announced he was running for president on March 14, 2019.[14]
Bernie Sanders (I), a U.S. senator from Vermont, announced that he was running for president on February 19, 2019.[15]
President Donald Trump (R) filed to run for re-election in 2020 on January 20, 2017.
Elizabeth Warren (D), U.S. senator from Massachusetts, announced she had formed an exploratory committee on December 31, 2018.[16] She formally announced she was running for president on February 9, 2019.
Bill Weld (R), a former governor of Massachusetts, announced that he had formed an exploratory committee on February 15, 2019.[17]
Marianne Williamson (D), an author and lecturer, announced she was running for president on January 28, 2019.[18]
Andrew Yang (D), an entrepreneur and author from New York, filed to run for president on November 6, 2017."

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_registered_2020_presidential_candidates

I am checking my list to see if any other names jump out at me...maybe a neighbor or something...

There were 1,762 registered in 2016 so expect the list to grow!!
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March 23rd, 2019 at 6:11:20 AM permalink
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-stacey-abrams_n_5c952b88e4b0a6329e16565f

And this old white guy who “disrespected” one of his potential competitors according to this writer.

Just another case of white liberals trying to keep a female minority down.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 7:01:11 AM permalink
Newest Enemy of the Party Tulsi Gabbard more eloquently saying what Trump has been saying all along. Criticizing the CIA and Obama's war mongering foreign policies. Audience ate it up.

Desperate water boy Colbert ended it with a cheap shot about David Duke and Steve Bannon, which she answered handily.

Expect MSM to make her a non-person after this.

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March 23rd, 2019 at 7:10:26 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Newest Enemy of the Party Tulsi Gabbard …….Expect MSM to make her a non-person after this.


?????
I don't have the foggiest idea who she is.
Enemy???????????
How do you make somebody a non person???????
Makes no sense. I exist and am a person.. She exists I guess even though I do not know her and she is a person
What's a "non-person" ???????????????
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 7:12:51 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

?????
I don't have the foggiest idea who she is.
Enemy???????????
How do you make somebody a non person???????
Makes no sense. I exist and am a person.. She exists I guess even though I do not know her and she is a person
What's a "non-person" ???????????????



I'm thinking Tanko meant someone of political relevance. I disagree with the stance; it's too soon for much change.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 9:45:09 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Newest Enemy of the Party Tulsi Gabbard more eloquently saying what Trump has been saying all along. Criticizing the CIA and Obama's war mongering foreign policies. Audience ate it up.

Desperate water boy Colbert ended it with a cheap shot about David Duke and Steve Bannon, which she answered handily.

Expect MSM to make her a non-person after this.



She’s been a non-person since she started her “campaign.”
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March 23rd, 2019 at 4:44:21 PM permalink
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/23/beto-orourke-says-trump-colluded-with-russia-beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt/23699152/

Lighten up Francis.

Anyone willing to bet this fool will be forgotten by the 3rd Democratic debate when they sort candidates based on polls.

Glad this drunk driver didn’t kill anyone to time the one he got caught. And hopefully no one kills themself when he is made to look like a fool before the likes of Kamal-Toe.

Perhaps old Willie Brown will still let you s#$k him off. It may not help you like it did Harris, but he will enjoy it just the same. After all su***** Clinton off didn’t help Monica, but it sure helped Hillary become the 45th President of the United States. Of wait, never mind.
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March 23rd, 2019 at 6:55:42 PM permalink
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/03/23/beto-orourke-says-trump-colluded-with-russia-beyond-the-shadow-of-a-doubt/23699152/

Lighten up Francis.

Anyone willing to bet this fool will be forgotten by the 3rd Democratic debate when they sort candidates based on polls.

Glad this drunk driver didn’t kill anyone to time the one he got caught. And hopefully no one kills themself when he is made to look like a fool before the likes of Kamal-Toe.

Perhaps old Willie Brown will still let you s#$k him off. It may not help you like it did Harris, but he will enjoy it just the same. After all su***** Clinton off didn’t help Monica, but it sure helped Hillary become the 45th President of the United States. Of wait, never mind.



Yeah, you could have started with "never mind" and been more worth the read. Yuck.

That said, I don't think Beto will get the nomination, so no bet.

OTOH, I saw Pete B. in an extended interview. He's pretty compelling.
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March 25th, 2019 at 7:29:17 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

?????
I don't have the foggiest idea who she is.
Enemy???????????
How do you make somebody a non person???????
Makes no sense. I exist and am a person.. She exists I guess even though I do not know her and she is a person
What's a "non-person" ???????????????


Are you really this dumb, or do you just play that way to troll everyone?
"Enemy of the party" = doesn't toe the party line on intervention, regime change, etc.
"make her a non-person" = stop reporting on her campaign, not give her any time so as to render her campaign impotent

I <3 Tulsi, I may vote for her in the Dem primary if she's still in it when MA goes to the polls. As an Unenrolled voter I can participate in either party's primary (not both though). Sadly, for the reasons Tanko mentions, she probably won't make it out of New Hampshire. War is big business, and powerful people desire us to stay engaged overseas way above the level that we should be.
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March 25th, 2019 at 9:06:26 AM permalink
How is this not a personal insult, or does framing it as a question make it permissible?
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March 25th, 2019 at 9:12:20 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

Newest Enemy of the Party Tulsi Gabbard more eloquently saying what Trump has been saying all along. Criticizing the CIA and Obama's war mongering foreign policies. Audience ate it up.

Desperate water boy Colbert ended it with a cheap shot about David Duke and Steve Bannon, which she answered handily.

Expect MSM to make her a non-person after this.

I have no idea what she stands for overall, but from what I have seen, I kinda like her.
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March 25th, 2019 at 9:21:36 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

How is this not a personal insult, or does framing it as a question make it permissible?



Do you believe the following statements are personal insults?

"Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?"

and

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March 25th, 2019 at 9:26:47 AM permalink
When are we going to get past complaining that someone should be suspended for a comment?

I get the mods don’t see everything, but if you are not the person that might feel insulted, why act slighted?

It’s like 3rd grade here with some feeling they have to tell on everyone and be closet Mods.
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March 25th, 2019 at 9:38:22 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

When are we going to get past complaining that someone should be suspended for a comment?

I get the mods don’t see everything, but if you are not the person that might feel insulted, why act slighted?

It’s like 3rd grade here with some feeling they have to tell on everyone and be closet Mods.


MODS??!?!?
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March 25th, 2019 at 9:44:09 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

When are we going to get past complaining that someone should be suspended for a comment?

I get the mods don’t see everything, but if you are not the person that might feel insulted, why act slighted?

It’s like 3rd grade here with some feeling they have to tell on everyone and be closet Mods.



Maybe people should stop complaining...but maybe people should stop trying to slip in thinly-masked insults all the time. Everyone may make a mistake now and then, but many have forgotten to attack the writing, not the writer.
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March 25th, 2019 at 10:27:02 AM permalink
Michael Avenatti has been indicted(!!) for trying to extort $20 million from Nike.

Seems like only yesterday EB confidently predicted he’d be the 2020 Dem nominee.

Good times.
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March 25th, 2019 at 10:52:48 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Michael Avenatti has been indicted(!!) for trying to extort $20 million from Nike.

Seems like only yesterday EB confidently predicted he’d be the 2020 Dem nominee.

Good times.



Interesting tweet from him:

"Tmrw at 11 am ET, we will be holding a press conference to disclose a major high school/college basketball scandal perpetrated by @Nike that we have uncovered. This criminal conduct reaches the highest levels of Nike and involves some of the biggest names in college basketball."

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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March 25th, 2019 at 12:47:03 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Michael Avenatti has been indicted(!!) for trying to extort $20 million from Nike.

Seems like only yesterday EB confidently predicted he’d be the 2020 Dem nominee.



Still a chance, he looks better than
anybody else who's running.. He can
run from prison.

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March 25th, 2019 at 1:04:58 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Michael Avenatti has been indicted(!!) for trying to extort $20 million from Nike.

Seems like only yesterday EB confidently predicted he’d be the 2020 Dem nominee.

Good times.



Wait... was this before or after EB said Hillary would be the nominee?

I believe he said Hillary would make her announcement in May or June....
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:08:53 PM permalink
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I believe he said Hillary would make her announcement in May or June....



June, and she's chomping at the bit.
Now that Avenatti is (probably) gone,
she has a wide open field..
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:22:27 PM permalink
Apparently Avenatti’s co-conspirator is Mark Geragos!

That’s way more shocking to me than them nailing Avenatti.

CNN has already said Geragos is no longer a paid contributor on their network.
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:23:35 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

June, and she's chomping at the bit.
Now that Avenatti is (probably) gone,
she has a wide open field..



LOL Got it.
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:38:18 PM permalink
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Apparently Avenatti’s co-conspirator is Mark Geragos!



Weren't you singing the praises
of Geragos a couple weeks ago
when he took on Jussie Smollett
as a client? He's also Colin Kapernack's
lawyer, and CK works for Nike.
What a news day.
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:50:58 PM permalink
Got some election shopping done early. Probably gonna need some protection from exploding Leftie heads when Trump inevitably gets elected again.

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March 25th, 2019 at 1:52:05 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Weren't you singing the praises
of Geragos a couple weeks ago
when he took on Jussie Smollett
as a client?



Nope. I’ve never “sung the praises” of Geragos.

He’s good at getting his celebrity clients out of hot water (Smollett will not see the inside of a jail cell), but he’s a slime ball just like most lawyers.
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:53:27 PM permalink
Also, might be time to rename this thread to "2020 LANDSLIDE"
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March 25th, 2019 at 1:53:42 PM permalink
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Got some election shopping done early. Probably gonna need some protection from exploding Leftie heads when Trump inevitably gets elected again.



If their head didn’t explode in 2016, it ain’t exploding in 2020. As the incumbent, his odds of winning should be better in 2020 than they were in 2016.
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March 25th, 2019 at 2:09:32 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Apparently Avenatti’s co-conspirator is Mark Geragos!

That’s way more shocking to me than them nailing Avenatti.

CNN has already said Geragos is no longer a paid contributor on their network.



Add GloryHole Allred to the list and you will never wipe the smile off my face.

All this #winning is really getting boring.
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March 25th, 2019 at 2:19:26 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Got some election shopping done early. Probably gonna need some protection from exploding Leftie heads when Trump inevitably gets elected again.



Are we sure he's even going to be on the ticket again? Judging by how he's acted the last 2+ years, he's been the whiniest, most thin-skinned, chicken s*** President in my lifetime. I don't know if he'll be able to handle the pressure of four more years.

I do think it would be kind of funny if Hillary DID decide to run again, and lost to him AGAIN.
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March 25th, 2019 at 3:53:35 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Apparently Avenatti’s co-conspirator is Mark Geragos!

That’s way more shocking to me than them nailing Avenatti.

CNN has already said Geragos is no longer a paid contributor on their network.


Wow
Avenatti looks pretty slimy.
Now Garragos
Why do people hire him?
He wasn't even in court when the jury found his client , Scott Peterson, guilty of murder. No lawyer misses the verdict, except Garragos
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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March 25th, 2019 at 4:31:24 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Wow
Avenatti looks pretty slimy.



Bank fraud in MS, submitting false tax
returns to get loans. Stealing from a
client in Calif. Trying to shake down
Nike for $20 mil.

I think these are all fed crimes, so the
FBI has been up Avenatti's butt for
awhile. He obviously knew nothing
about it or he would never have
attempted the Nike thing last week.

Avenatti was on CNN 74 times, talking
about Trump being frog walked out
of the Oval. I wonder if the irony
occurred to him as HE was being frog
marched today.
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March 25th, 2019 at 5:35:56 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Bank fraud in MS, submitting false tax
returns to get loans. Stealing from a
client in Calif. Trying to shake down
Nike for $20 mil.

I think these are all fed crimes, so the
FBI has been up Avenatti's butt for
awhile. He obviously knew nothing
about it or he would never have
attempted the Nike thing last week.

Avenatti was on CNN 74 times, talking
about Trump being frog walked out
of the Oval. I wonder if the irony
occurred to him as HE was being frog
marched today.



What a gift Avenatti gave you today, EB! A huge blast of schadenfreude to feed your soul. You should send him a thank you card in prison. Lol...
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March 25th, 2019 at 6:31:38 PM permalink
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What a gift Avenatti gave you today, EB! ..



Even after what happened today, there
will still be people who 100% believe the
woman he brought forth to testify
against Kavanaugh. And there's another
charge in California, he owes a ton of
back child support.

Now the authorities will look at everything
he's done for the last 10 years and God
knows what they'll find. You just know he's
been pulling this crap for a long time.
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March 25th, 2019 at 7:31:35 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Double post I swear to God I
did not hit the thing twice



There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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March 25th, 2019 at 9:34:49 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine



Just lend me your's..
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March 26th, 2019 at 6:32:06 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Apparently Avenatti’s co-conspirator is Mark Geragos!

That’s way more shocking to me than them nailing Avenatti.

CNN has already said Geragos is no longer a paid contributor on their network.





The full complaint against Avenatti and CC-1 (Mark Geragos)

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5780145-U-S-v-Michael-Avenatti-Complaint.html#document/p2?platform=hootsuite
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March 26th, 2019 at 6:34:15 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

*EXCERPT*he’s a slime ball just like most lawyers.




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March 26th, 2019 at 8:09:38 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

What a gift Avenatti gave you today, EB! A huge blast of schadenfreude to feed your soul. You should send him a thank you card in prison. Lol...



ANYTHING to take the heat off the Trump crime family!
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March 26th, 2019 at 8:36:52 AM permalink
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LOL I specifically added "most" cause I didn't want to personally insult you!
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March 26th, 2019 at 8:59:49 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

ANYTHING to take the heat off the Trump crime family!



What crimes are you talking about? Examples, please.
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March 26th, 2019 at 11:33:46 AM permalink
Ha ha ha

Trump just said Republicans are going to be known as the party of healthcare.

WELL, we know what that means. It's cheaper to just bury people than treat them.

There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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March 26th, 2019 at 12:52:47 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

What crimes are you talking about? Examples, please.



Sure thing, I'll let you know as soon as the 16+ ongoing investigations directly or tangentially involving Trump are complete. Then we'll know for sure.
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