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June 21st, 2017 at 6:08:02 PM permalink
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SANTA FE, N.M. New Mexico's top law enforcement officer is urging the author and antiquities dealer who inspired thousands to search remote corners of the American West for a hidden chest of gold and jewels to end the treasure hunt.

The plea from State Police Chief Pete Kassetas follows what authorities believe is the latest death related to the effort to uncover Forrest Fenn's treasure.
Colorado pastor Paris Wallace disappeared last week while searching for the bounty in a rugged area along the Rio Grande in northern New Mexico. His family reported him missing, triggering an extensive search.
State Police believe a body recovered Sunday is Wallace's. Medical investigators were working Tuesday to make a positive identification.
Kassetas told reporters that Fenn should retrieve the treasure from wherever he hid it and stop what he called nonsense and insanity.
"He's putting lives at risk," the chief said, noting that he planned to contact Fenn personally to ask him to call off the hunt.
Fenn did not respond to emails from The Associated Press asking about Wallace's disappearance and the calls to end the search for the cache of gold coins, jewels and other artifacts he claims to have hidden somewhere in the Rocky Mountains.
Fenn has dropped clues to its whereabouts in a cryptic poem in his memoir, "The Thrill of the Chase."
He told the Santa Fe New Mexican newspaper Monday that he has been considering how to make the search safer or cancel it altogether but has not made any decisions. He called Wallace's disappearance tragic.
The 52-year-old pastor traveled to the Espanola area last week. His wife reported him missing Wednesday after he didn't return home and hotel staff informed her that his belongings were still in his room.
Police and wildlife officials searched forest and county roads and popular hiking trails.
After looking at Wallace's laptop, authorities learned of other locations where he might have gone. They eventually found his vehicle along the Rio Grande.
At the edge of the water, officers saw two red ropes tied together and to a large rock. Receipts in Wallace's vehicle indicated the ropes belonged to him.
Rescuers spent two days searching the river until rafters spotted a body downstream about 7 miles from where Wallace was last believed to have been.
Authorities say the search effort required extensive resources, including air support, the state police dive team, numerous officers, canine teams and volunteers.
Mitzi Wallace, Wallace's fellow treasure hunter and wife of 30 years, said it would be a mistake for Fenn to end the hunt, and she would continue to search for the treasure with her 19-year-old son, including in the area where authorities believe her husband died.
"Our treasure is that time we spend together," she told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
She added without elaborating that her husband put himself in a dangerous situation that cost him his life. But "I know without a shadow of a doubt that it was God's way of taking him."
Efforts to find wayward treasure hunters have put the lives of law enforcement officers and search and rescue volunteers at risk while straining state resources, Kassetas said.
New Mexico's search and rescue team launched a survey Tuesday on whether Fenn should call off the search.
"Over the years, as people have searched for this treasure, some have ended up getting into trouble and needing help from search and rescue. At least two have lost their lives looking for the treasure chest," the survey says.
Last year, searchers spent weeks looking for Randy Bilyeu, another Colorado man who disappeared in the New Mexico backcountry while looking for the loot.
Volunteers led by Bilyeu's ex-wife eventually picked up where the official search left off, and Bilyeu's remains were found several months later.
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June 21st, 2017 at 6:15:21 PM permalink
Quote: RS

The Trump hotel, you say? ;-)



If it had a casino and was actually on the strip, I wouldn't be opposed to staying at the Trump hotel in Vegas.
The geniuses who thought HRC was running a child sex ring out of the basement of a pizza shop just can't connect the dots on all this trump-Russia stuff....
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June 21st, 2017 at 7:54:32 PM permalink
I hadn't heard of Fenn and his treasure poem.

Here it is:

"As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.

Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.

From there it's no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;
There'll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.

If you've been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,
But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
Just take the chest and go in peace.

So why is it that I must go
And leave my trove for all to seek?
The answers I already know,
I've done it tired, and now I'm weak.

So hear me all and listen good,
Your effort will be worth the cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
I give you title to the gold."
"What, me worry?"
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June 21st, 2017 at 9:44:51 PM permalink
My son feels very strongly that the treasure is somewhere near the Flaming Gorge Dam. Don't tell him I told you.
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June 21st, 2017 at 10:02:24 PM permalink
Road Trip!!!!!!!!
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June 21st, 2017 at 10:17:36 PM permalink
Apparently Mr. Wallace felt very strongly that the treasuresnipe was at the bottom of the Rio Grande river. Maybe it found him.
Nevermind.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 9:30:13 AM permalink
It's been hot in Northern AZ this week, a couple of days ago my Highlander showed an outside temperature of 111.

And here's the result, which is a good reminder to be careful with what and where you leave things in your car; my semi-melted dash cam:



It still works, but I'd guess there are a lot of things that would die completely if left in the sun for any length of time.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 10:29:56 AM permalink
>>>>I hadn't heard of Fenn and his treasure poem.
I started a thread on it somewhere. either here or DT.

>>>Begin it where warm waters halt
Does warm and halt relate to color or to temperature? To stop or 'halt' in the sense of 'the lame, the halt, the blind'? That is a sudden crookedness of a waterway? After all few streams ever suddenly stop.

>>>>Put in below the home of Brown.
Go from your boat to teh shore 'below' (south?) of a fort originally founded by a man named Brown?

Mary Caperton Morton, whom I've quoted a few times on this site for touristy Nevada stuff, has spent four years searching for the treasure (seasonally). She used to be a professional housesitter but is now located in either BigBend or Utah or somewhere and is not actively searching for the treasure. I think if she does find it, much of the items will be donated to the Big Sky Ski Patrol.

The expert hikers who died recently... or were they merely 'experienced' hikers? Anyway, years of experience at normal temperatures doesn't grant wisdom at high temperatures and once you are 'out there' how else do you get back but hike to your car? Sit at a stream or spring and have food run out but water available? Maybe. How long will the heat wave be though? Were there streams or springs available to them?
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June 22nd, 2017 at 11:47:40 AM permalink
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Begin it where warm waters halt



My son thinks this is a reference to a dam. As you may know, water released from a big dam is very cold because it gets released from the bottom of the reservoir behind the dam.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 1:02:29 PM permalink
Quote: billryan's source

Wallace's fellow treasure hunter and wife of 30 years, said ... that her husband put himself in a dangerous situation that cost him his life. But "I know without a shadow of a doubt that it was God's way of taking him."



I have to assume this statement was weird enough to raise eyebrows with any homicide detectives involved
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