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June 21st, 2018 at 11:59:18 AM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

My family goes to Michigan every summer. (From Chicagoland)



After the Civil War, the railroads were
being built all over the country. By
the 1880's they were all over MI and
the tourist trade was rolling along.

The mentality was, upper MI was still
a wilderness, and you could have an
adventure there for a vacation. The
complete opposite of big city life was
just a few hours away by train. When
Hemingway was there as boy, there
was no electric, no indoor plumbing.
Lots of Native Americans, it was the
ending of an era.
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June 21st, 2018 at 1:59:15 PM permalink
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If only Vegas were on the Oregon coast it would be the perfect city.


I can’t think of a worse area. Maybe Canada?
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June 21st, 2018 at 9:42:54 PM permalink
Quote: RS

I can’t think of a worse area. Maybe Canada?



Hawaii is the only state where Vegas
would be perfect. The climate there
is not of this world. That's why the
cost of living there is not of this world.
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If Hawaii had casinos I would move there in a minute.
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June 14th, 2021 at 9:34:23 PM permalink
It is always very very hot here in June.

9:30 pm and the temp outside is 100F.

Excessive heat right now:
https://www.weather.gov/
https://www.weather.gov/vef/
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June 14th, 2021 at 10:06:39 PM permalink
68 degrees in Portland today, with rain.

Brrr...
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June 14th, 2021 at 10:57:38 PM permalink
75 in West Michigan today, sunny, no humidity, paradise. People say why do you live in a cold state, this is why. The summer's here are glorious. Everything is super green and lush. I lived in Southern California for 7 years and I was just as restricted there as I am here in the winter. In Calif in December and January it's fully dark by 5 p.m. It's in the 50s a lot and you get climatized and have to wear a jacket because 50s feels cold. 40's at night and that is cold. When I moved back here in the early 80s I could not understand why I ever left. Summer and Fall here are worth a little inconvenience in the winter. And the women here are so much better looking than the women in California. West Michigan has the largest number people from the Netherlands outside of the Netherlands. Everywhere you go there are gorgeous blondes. It's a treat you never stop appreciating.
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June 15th, 2021 at 10:14:27 AM permalink
Similar back story.

Starting in the 1930's my family started spending part of the summer at a lake in New Hampshire in order to escape the heat and humidity of NJ in the summer.

Those days were pre-air conditioning, when there really was no way to find relief from the heat other than by physically escaping it.
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June 15th, 2021 at 10:26:52 AM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

It is always very very hot here in June.

9:30 pm and the temp outside is 100F.

Excessive heat right now:
https://www.weather.gov/
https://www.weather.gov/vef/



I’m at the Paris pool. Lying in what they call a ‘day bed’. Ensures shade. It’s 100 now at 10:20. The pool actually feels too cool now! But it’s in the shade for a shirt while longer. Last night I walked from T Mobile Arena to the Paris. It felt almost ‘phony’ how hot it was. Like it couldn’t naturally be that hot after sunset. As I’ve been typing our daybed is now in the sun. Even with the shade protection it is roasting!

I think I want Bob’s 75 and sunny in Michigan now! We
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June 15th, 2021 at 10:40:40 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I’m at the Paris pool. Lying in what they call a ‘day bed’. Ensures shade. It’s 100 now at 10:20. The pool actually feels too cool now! But it’s in the shade for a shirt while longer. Last night I walked from T Mobile Arena to the Paris. It felt almost ‘phony’ how hot it was. Like it couldn’t naturally be that hot after sunset. As I’ve been typing our daybed is now in the sun. Even with the shade protection it is roasting!

I think I want Bob’s 75 and sunny in Michigan now! We



Come on SOOPOO, it doesn't even get hot in Vegas until it cracks 110. This afternoon will be warm and tomorrow even hotter. It is only June, July and August are the hot months. Do you understand now why I like the earliest tee time at the golf course. In July it will be in the 90's when we tee off at 5:30am.
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June 15th, 2021 at 11:14:19 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I’m at the Paris pool. Lying in what they call a ‘day bed’. Ensures shade. It’s 100 now at 10:20. The pool actually feels too cool now!



What is it about Vegas pools that can make you feel so freezing in 100 degree weather? I’ve had that experience many times.

I’ll be arriving in town on Saturday. The temp is forecasted to be a balmy 114 degrees.
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June 16th, 2021 at 2:33:11 AM permalink
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from the article:





"The current heat wave is expected to be the most intense and widespread through Saturday, threatening to exceed the highest temperatures on record in Arizona (128 degrees Fahrenheit) and Nevada (125)."




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https://goodwordnews.com/hottest-temperatures-in-arizona-and-nevada-history-are-possible/






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June 16th, 2021 at 3:26:01 AM permalink
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"The current heat wave is expected to be the most intense and widespread through Saturday, threatening to exceed the highest temperatures on record in Arizona (128 degrees Fahrenheit) and Nevada (125)."









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125, holy hell, let's hope not.
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June 16th, 2021 at 10:06:51 AM permalink
Wait, it's still spring.

What will summer be like?
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June 16th, 2021 at 10:42:21 AM permalink
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June 16th, 2021 at 4:10:20 PM permalink
AccuWeather says right now at 4 p.m. In Vegas its 115 degrees. 115 tomorrow should cool down to 111 for the weekend. 75 again here today, 3rd beautiful day in a row.
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June 16th, 2021 at 6:18:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

AccuWeather says right now at 4 p.m. In Vegas its 115 degrees. 115 tomorrow should cool down to 111 for the weekend. 75 again here today, 3rd beautiful day in a row.



Yes, but it is 55 at night which would make me turn the heat on and have all of the fireplaces blazing and I would still be miserable.
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June 16th, 2021 at 6:23:53 PM permalink
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Yes, but it is 55 at night which would make me turn the heat on and have all of the fireplaces blazing and I would still be miserable.



Most of mid to northern Michigan will be in the mid 40s tonight
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June 16th, 2021 at 8:17:16 PM permalink
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Most of mid to northern Michigan will be in the mid 40s tonight



Perfect sleeping weather and anything below 50 degrees kills mosquitoes of which I have not seen any this year anyway. It was too cold during the Spring
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June 16th, 2021 at 9:30:06 PM permalink
The heat was turned off to my complex a month ago and I've had to rely on electric heater fans & an oil filled radiator. It's either a heatwave or barely 50 out here.
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June 17th, 2021 at 2:05:06 AM permalink
.................


with heat like this so early, sadly, it's all but a sure thing that this summer CA will again have timber fires as a huge issue

and it's one that they really don't have a handle on

they are not able to prevent it from happening and when it does happen they are not able to quickly contain or extinguish the fires



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June 17th, 2021 at 2:08:13 AM permalink
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June 17th, 2021 at 9:28:14 AM permalink
Is the world ending? Everywhere I look there's news about the heat crisis out West. Stay indoors, don't go outside, Auntie Em Auntie Em the sky is falling. It gets hot every year in the West, is this news to them? All I care about is it's noon in West Michigan and it 69 degrees. Low 80s tomorrow and then seventies all next week. It's picnic and golfing weather, it's a go to the beach at Lake Michigan weather. It sit outside and read a book weather.
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June 17th, 2021 at 9:43:30 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

.........with heat like this so early, sadly, it's all but a sure thing that this summer CA will again have timber fires as a huge issue and it's one that they really don't have a handle on they are not able to prevent it from happening and when it does happen they are not able to quickly contain or extinguish the fires^



I have to suspect that many of the Californians living in areas prone to wildfire are considering finding some other state to move to, a place with similar hills / mountains / "quality of life" but with little or no risk of wildfire.

At one time Californians moved to the Pac NW, and perhaps that is now in their game plan.

Might want to reconsider, as we also had wildfires all over the place last year, some very, very bad and very, very big.

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June 17th, 2021 at 9:49:47 AM permalink
After nine years of it not hitting triple digits in Bisbee, we had two such days last year. We now have had five days over 100 in a row and it is expected to last another week or so. My Doctor in Tucson canceled all appointments yesterday for a reason I never heard before- the blacktop in his parking lot was melting and they were afraid people would burn their feet walking thru it.
My sister invited me to spend a few weeks at her house in Palm Beach Florida. I'm not sure what to do. I moved to Bisbee to escape the summer heat.
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June 17th, 2021 at 10:57:10 AM permalink
I think 87 in Florida will feel as bad as 100 in Bisbee
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June 17th, 2021 at 11:22:27 AM permalink
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I think 87 in Florida will feel as bad as 100 in Bisbee




I don't disagree. A few years ago, I left Vgas where it was 114 and arrived in NY at 10PM , where it was 91 and very humid. I wanted to fly ack the same day.
The biggest difference is I don't pay for AC in Florida.
It's 1115 and I just walked thirty yards roundtrip to get my mail. I feel like I got a mega-last of vitamin D. Three summers in Vegas didn't prepare me for this heat.
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June 17th, 2021 at 11:43:56 AM permalink
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I have to suspect that many of the Californians living in areas



In the seven years I lived in California there was always every year some natural disaster going on. If there was not a killer drought there was so much rain that houses were sliding down the side of hills. If there was not an earthquake, there were major forest fires everywhere. You get used to it and don't even think about it after a while.
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June 17th, 2021 at 12:20:57 PM permalink
Buffalo is the place to be mid May through the end of September. Hope to be in Florida October through April. The best of both worlds. At the Paris oool now. 113? Our lounge is in the shade, but just lay there for 15-20 minutes. Jump in cool pool for 5-10 minutes. Rinse and repeat. I think if I could program the outside temp at this pool I’d pick 85 or so. So it’s only 30 degrees warmer….
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Hope to be in Florida October through April. The best of both worlds.



How is Florida the best of any world. Florida sucks winter and summer. Flat as a pancake, overpopulated, especially overpopulated with old people and unsavory types, too many bugs, too many tourists, too much crime, the list is endless. I would not live in Florida if it was free.
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June 17th, 2021 at 2:31:20 PM permalink
You like Michigan, we get it.

Lots of folks from NY/NJ area move to Florida to avoid cold winters.

As they grew up in a climate of high heat and humidity in the summer (granted, not as high as Fla.) they don't need to do much to adjust.
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June 17th, 2021 at 2:40:30 PM permalink
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You like Michigan, we get it.

Lots of folks from NY/NJ area move to Florida to avoid cold winters.

As they grew up in a climate of high heat and humidity in the summer (granted, not as high as Fla.) they don't need to do much to adjust.



Any time that I have been in humid climates I seem to adjust after a month or so.
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June 17th, 2021 at 3:03:52 PM permalink
Always a jolt from the massive difference in humidity walking off a plane when you fly from the desert southwest to NOLA or Florida late spring to early fall. Other than the food it’s easy to see why people are so big down there. Screw exercising outside, dripping sweat just walking after a minute or two.
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June 17th, 2021 at 3:23:08 PM permalink
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Always a jolt from the massive difference in humidity walking off a plane when you fly from the desert southwest to NOLA or Florida late spring to early fall. Other than the food it’s easy to see why people are so big down there. Screw exercising outside, dripping sweat just walking after a minute or two.


It always makes my glasses fog up.
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June 17th, 2021 at 4:01:35 PM permalink
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You like Michigan, we get it.



My hating Florida it's nothing to do with Michigan. I used to visit my dad in the 80s when he live there and every time I want I thought how in God's name do people live here on purpose. On top of everything else it's so boring there. Oh look the ocean. Oh look another palm tree. Oh look another stucco building. Then there are these every
100 yards:

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June 17th, 2021 at 6:59:01 PM permalink
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You like Michigan, we get it.

Michigan is by far the most boring place in the universe. When I was a kid, my family used to visit my aunt uncle and cousins in Michigan. No joke...their idea of excitement was watching plane contrails.
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June 17th, 2021 at 7:26:58 PM permalink
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Michigan is by far the most boring place in the universe. When I was a kid, my family used to visit my aunt uncle and cousins in Michigan. No joke...their idea of excitement was watching plane contrails.



Have you ever been to Nebraska, Iowa, or Kansas? Or driven from Las Vegas to Reno without detouring through CA/to 395?
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June 17th, 2021 at 7:45:51 PM permalink
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Michigan is by far the most boring place



Michigan is so boring it's been a major vacation destination since the end of the Civil War. Tourism is a main source of Michigan income because it's so boring. Just one example. My wife and her sisters are from Michigan yet every year they stay for three nights and 4 days on Mackinac Island at the Grand Hotel. They love it they look forward to it, because it's so boring. There are so many tourist destinations in Michigan it takes a small book to list all of them. Do you want boring? Drive thru Iowa and Kansas one day.

On the average summer day thousands of people visit Mackinac Island via ferry, because a boat is the only way to get there. No cars allowed on the island, horse-drawn vehicles only. 2nd image is the Grand Hotel built in the late eighteen hundreds. It's spectacular and worth a trip to the island just to see it and go through it. It has the longest front porch of any building in the world, 660 feet. Six hundred horses work on the island. There are fifteen hundred bicycles. 70 miles of bike trails. 15 fudge shops. The first time you visit the history and the quaintness will knock your socks off. More than 15,000 people a day take the 20 minute ferry rides to the island. The ferry ride itself is kind of exciting because the water is always choppy, it's always chilly, the wind is always blowing, and it feels dangerous even though it's not.



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June 17th, 2021 at 8:19:23 PM permalink
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Have you ever been to Nebraska, Iowa, or Kansas?



Driving through those states count the number of times you want to kill yourself per hour and imagine living there.
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June 17th, 2021 at 8:46:30 PM permalink
Florida is #2 state for tourism

Is Michigan #1?

drumroll..................

Nope Michigan #31
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June 17th, 2021 at 9:48:56 PM permalink
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Florida is #2 state for tourism



Who said it's number one. I said it gets a huge number of tourists every year, winter and summer. It's completely surrounded on three sides by the Great Lakes, duh. It has almost as much as shoreline as California. Shoreline means tourists.
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June 18th, 2021 at 3:43:29 AM permalink
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Michigan is so boring it's been a major vacation destination since the end of the Civil War. Tourism is a main source of Michigan income because it's so boring. Just one example. My wife and her sisters are from Michigan yet every year they stay for three nights and 4 days on Mackinac Island at the Grand Hotel. They love it they look forward to it, because it's so boring. There are so many tourist destinations in Michigan it takes a small book to list all of them. Do you want boring? Drive thru Iowa and Kansas one day.

On the average summer day thousands of people visit Mackinac Island via ferry, because a boat is the only way to get there. No cars allowed on the island, horse-drawn vehicles only. 2nd image is the Grand Hotel built in the late eighteen hundreds. It's spectacular and worth a trip to the island just to see it and go through it. It has the longest front porch of any building in the world, 660 feet. Six hundred horses work on the island. There are fifteen hundred bicycles. 70 miles of bike trails. 15 fudge shops. The first time you visit the history and the quaintness will knock your socks off. More than 15,000 people a day take the 20 minute ferry rides to the island. The ferry ride itself is kind of exciting because the water is always choppy, it's always chilly, the wind is always blowing, and it feels dangerous even though it's not.



Dude, I've been to those places, and they're boring. 15 fudge shops. Wow! Your post just confirms my point that some Michiganders have a totally twisted sense of what's interesting.
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June 18th, 2021 at 8:31:23 AM permalink
I go on a variety of different vacation types. Sometimes wifey wants the ‘boring’ type of vacation that Mackinaw Island is. I have friends who just love it there. Other times we’ll go to an ‘exciting’ trip like Cruise down the Rhine seeing lots of interesting cities. I go with friends on golf trips…. Which other than golfing are just sitting by a pool and eating. I won’t use the words boring or exciting. I think the word fun is better suited.

The words boring and exciting are so specific to an individual that to argue over it is silly.
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June 18th, 2021 at 8:55:29 AM permalink

Dude, I've been to those places, and they're boring.



I get it, I see what's boring here. It's not Michigan..

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June 18th, 2021 at 8:57:42 AM permalink
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I go on a variety of different vacation types. Sometimes wifey wants the ‘boring’ type of vacation that Mackinaw Island is. I have friends who just love it there. .



Like most places the more money you have to spend the better your time will be.
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June 18th, 2021 at 9:06:41 AM permalink
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Like most places the more money you have to spend the better your time will be.



One of the few statements where I agree with Bob.
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June 18th, 2021 at 11:58:57 AM permalink
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One of the few statements where I agree with Bob.




As a general rule, I agree. However, the three weeks I backpacked in Jamaica will always be the pinnacle of my vacations.
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June 18th, 2021 at 1:08:29 PM permalink
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As a general rule, I agree. However, the three weeks I backpacked in Jamaica will always be the pinnacle of my vacations.



Mine was renting sailboats in the Virgin Islands. Each boat had a captain and a chef and we had 10 incredible days sailing around to all the little islands with no itinerary.
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June 18th, 2021 at 2:55:23 PM permalink
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Mine was renting sailboats in the Virgin Islands. Each boat had a captain and a chef and we had 10 incredible days sailing around to all the little islands with no itinerary.



Nice. I've often thought of doing that.
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