Hot enough for ya?
I have to agree withUP84 Iv'e been to Michigan Machinah Island too I haven't been back I have been back to Floridas beaches though...Quote: UP84Dude, I've been to those places, and they're boring. 15 fudge shops. Wow! Your post just confirms my point that some Michiganders have a totally twisted sense of what's interesting.Quote: EvenBobMichigan is so boring it's been a major vacation destination since the end of the Civil War. Tourism is a main source of Michigan income because it's so boring. Just one example. My wife and her sisters are from Michigan yet every year they stay for three nights and 4 days on Mackinac Island at the Grand Hotel. They love it they look forward to it, because it's so boring. There are so many tourist destinations in Michigan it takes a small book to list all of them. Do you want boring? Drive thru Iowa and Kansas one day.
On the average summer day thousands of people visit Mackinac Island via ferry, because a boat is the only way to get there. No cars allowed on the island, horse-drawn vehicles only. 2nd image is the Grand Hotel built in the late eighteen hundreds. It's spectacular and worth a trip to the island just to see it and go through it. It has the longest front porch of any building in the world, 660 feet. Six hundred horses work on the island. There are fifteen hundred bicycles. 70 miles of bike trails. 15 fudge shops. The first time you visit the history and the quaintness will knock your socks off. More than 15,000 people a day take the 20 minute ferry rides to the island. The ferry ride itself is kind of exciting because the water is always choppy, it's always chilly, the wind is always blowing, and it feels dangerous even though it's not.
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Quote: daveyandersen1I have to agree withUP84 Iv'e been to Michigan Machinah Island too I haven't been back..
Why would you go back, it's not an amusement park. Most places I visit I never go back, why would I. If you think Florida beaches are exciting, we have two different definitions of boring. Never been to a beach in my life but didn't bore me to tears after about 3 and 1/2 minutes. Getting baked by the sun amid the stink of sun tan lotion is not my idea of a good time.
Quote: EvenBobGetting baked by the sun amid the stink of sun tan lotion is not my idea of a good time.
Well then, so that we who read your posts can best put your comments in proper context, please explain what your idea of a good time, travel / vacation-wise,actually is?
Quote: mcallister3200Evenbob hates the sun/sunlight, what a surprise. Candle light is much better I suppose.
Nah, I suspect he still thinks fondly of his days tending bar, stale pretzels barely illuminated by a flickering "Bud" sign, his regular customers saying the same stuff over and over.
Something to be said for regularity, let alone mediocrity.
Quote: MrVWell then, so that we who read your posts can best put your comments in proper context, please explain what your idea of a good time, travel / vacation-wise,actually is?
That's easy. Staying home is what I like to do. I hate traveling and I don't mean just hate, I loathe. it. Inconvenience of getting there, having to sleep poorly in a bed that's not mine. Having to eat food that's usually under seasoned and overcooked. Dealing with complete strangers. The whole thing is exhausting and for what. The whole time I'm gone I only want to be at home. If you live in a place you really like, where you're really comfortable, why would you want to leave. Mark Twain felt the same way about traveling. He hated everything about it, it was one inconvenience after another. He loved being in his own bed so much he usually had the maid serving breakfast and he would stay in bed till noon writing letters or writing articles. He was forced to travel to Europe for months at a time in his later years because he made stupid Investments and he needed the money he got from speaking tours. He hated every minute of it and and longed to be home.
I felt this way even as a kid, I never liked it when we took trips. The anticipation of it was the best part the actual trip itself was always tedious and the destination was always a disappointment. It was never what I thought it was going to be. It was either too hot or too crowded or too boring. And it only got worse as I got older. I think what it is, most people are easily entertained and easily satisfied. They will settle for almost anything and I will not. Cruise ships for example. I know without ever going on a cruise that it would bore me to tears. People even say when they get home that all there was to do to do was eat. I can stay home and do that and eat way better food.
The smell of Hawaiian Tropic suntan oil is one of my favorite smells as it reminds me of a youthful carefree summer vacation having fun at the lake, river, water park, beach, and all the hot girls in bikinis.Quote: EvenBobWhy would you go back, it's not an amusement park. Most places I visit I never go back, why would I. If you think Florida beaches are exciting, we have two different definitions of boring. Never been to a beach in my life but didn't bore me to tears after about 3 and 1/2 minutes. Getting baked by the sun amid the stink of sun tan lotion is not my idea of a good time.
Yeah I agree with that. The scent of Hawaiian Tropic is like a blast back to the pastQuote: AxelWolfThe smell of Hawaiian Tropic suntan oil is one of my favorite smells as it reminds me of a youthful carefree summer vacation having fun at the lake, river, water park, beach, and all the hot girls in bikinis.
Quote: AxelWolfThe smell of Hawaiian Tropic suntan oil is one of my favorite smells
Great, slather it on in your living room have a wonderful time and you don't have to go anywhere to do it
I did go to Disney World one time in the 80s. Did not go on a single ride because I refuse to wait in line longer than five or six minutes. Those idiots were standing in the sun waiting in line for God knows how long. I went and drank beer until everybody was ready to leave. Believe me you do not want me around on a trip, I'm the original Debbie Downer. My wife was always bugging me to go somewhere and the whole way there she would recline her seat and sleep. So of course she had a good time, and I'm exhausted from driving for the last four and a half hours. Can't let her drive, she scares the crap out of me because she treats a car like it is a rolling weapon.
MAN I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU..you haven't learned how to make your own funQuote: EvenBobThat's easy. Staying home is what I like to do. I hate traveling and I don't mean just hate, I loathe. it. Inconvenience of getting there, having to sleep poorly in a bed that's not mine. Having to eat food that's usually under seasoned and overcooked. Dealing with complete strangers. The whole thing is exhausting and for what. The whole time I'm gone I only want to be at home. If you live in a place you really like, where you're really comfortable, why would you want to leave. Mark Twain felt the same way about traveling. He hated everything about it, it was one inconvenience after another. He loved being in his own bed so much he usually had the maid serving breakfast and he would stay in bed till noon writing letters or writing articles. He was forced to travel to Europe for months at a time in his later years because he made stupid Investments and he needed the money he got from speaking tours. He hated every minute of it and and longed to be home.
I felt this way even as a kid, I never liked it when we took trips. The anticipation of it was the best part the actual trip itself was always tedious and the destination was always a disappointment. It was never what I thought it was going to be. It was either too hot or too crowded or too boring. And it only got worse as I got older. I think what it is, most people are easily entertained and easily satisfied. They will settle for almost anything and I will not. Cruise ships for example. I know without ever going on a cruise that it would bore me to tears. People even say when they get home that all there was to do to do was eat. I can stay home and do that and eat way better food.
Quote: daveyandersen1MAN I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU..you haven't learned how to make your own fun
Good grief, who are you. What do you think staying home is if it's not making your own fun. I don't have to waste my time taking trips and spending money and being bored when I have all the entertainment I need right here. Why do I need to go somewhere else for it. Right now I'm going to look up how to make my own beef jerky at home. I'll order everything I need from Walmart and it will be here at 1 p.m. tomorrow. This is great entertainment for me, I'm looking forward to this 10 times more then I would be looking forward to a trip somewhere.
I meant on trips and making your own fun..... everybody makes their own fun at home ...If not we would ALL be bored...Quote: EvenBobGood grief, who are you. What do you think staying home is if it's not making your own fun. I don't have to waste my time taking trips and spending money and being bored when I have all the entertainment I need right here. Why do I need to go somewhere else for it. Right now I'm going to look up how to make my own beef jerky at home. I'll order everything I need from Walmart and it will be here at 1 p.m. tomorrow. This is great entertainment for me, I'm looking forward to this 10 times more then I would be looking forward to a trip somewhere.
Quote: daveyandersen1I meant on trips and making your own fun....
That's what I want to do, go on a trip that's so boring I have to make my own fun. Have you thought any of this through? Why do I have a suspicion you're a Millennial.
Quote: mcallister3200Forcing the Walmart delivery guy to come to your house
Did I mention how much I love Walmart? I can hire somebody to go up and down was boring aisles picking out my items then delivering them right to my door? It's like a dream come true, saves me hours a month. And it's great schadenfreude thinking about that person doing something that I hate to do. And I have yet to see a guy as the delivery person. It's always a woman with a name I can barely pronounce.
Quote: VegasriderThat’s part of living life to its fullest, unfortunately some never get an opportunity to experience it.
There are many different definitions of living life to its fullest. For some people studying a subject they love in a library and on the internet is living life to its fullest. For somebody else it might be owning a restaurant or a flower shop. For some it might be traveling to foreign countries staying in crappy hotels and eating food that makes them sick. For me it's staying home most of the time and not wasting my time in boring travel to a place I don't want to be. I traveled a lot when I was young, lived in eight or nine different places including Hawaii. I traveled enough to realize it's not where you go that counts, it's who you are. If you are who you want to be, you can quit traveling around looking for yourself.
Quote: EvenBobI traveled enough to realize it's not where you go that counts, it's who you are. If you are who you want to be, you can quit traveling around looking for yourself.
"No matter where you go, there you are." --- Buckaroo Banzai
Quote: EvenBobI traveled a lot when I was young, lived in eight or nine different places including Hawaii. I traveled enough to realize it's not where you go that counts, it's who you are. If you are who you want to be, you can quit traveling around looking for yourself.
The old saying "Been there - done that" allows you to say what you are saying. Until someone has experienced it, they really don't know. Some people may just live in one small city their entire life and never leave the state and say that the traffic in their city is the worst. Obviously they have never experienced rush hour traffic in LA or other major cities.
I'm glad I've traveled a lot, and lived in various cities including Vegas for 14 years. I thought Vegas was the best city to live in the US until I moved to Reno. I always perceived Reno just like the TV show Reno 911. A joke. Glad my life's journey has gotten me here.
Quote: EvenBobThat's what I want to do, go on a trip that's so boring I have to make my own fun. Have you thought any of this through? Why do I have a suspicion you're a Millennial. [/q..
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/megadrought-could-force-californias-lake-oroville-hydroelectric-power-plant-shut-down
Quote: daveyandersen1Hey EB every time I go on a trip I make my own fun,, I mean no one is going to do it for me right?? I enjoy experiencing things that happen when i;m traveling Like ,, different folks and cultures.Just the way people from somewhere else act..
Good grief, you sound like you're talking to a group of 8th graders who have never been anywhere. I've seen different groups and cultures and after about 3 minutes they're just as boring as any other group and culture. Except they probably smell worse. Ever been on a public bus in Rome in August? It's all you can do not to hang your head out the window and retch at the stink of unwashed Italians who sweat nothing but garlic. And that was one of the better experiences with other groups and cultures.
do you ever see the positive in people or things not familiar to you ??? Maybe you did at one time but I think you have become " stuck in your own ways" Like I said change is good.. that is coming from a fellow( boomer)...
Quote: daveyandersen1hey EVENBOB
do you ever see the positive in people or things not familiar to you ???
I see what I see, why do you Millennials have to put a label on everything. That's the advantage of getting older you don't have to walk around seeing rainbows and lollipops in everything, you see it for what it is warts-and-all.
Quote: EvenBob..... why do you Millennials have to put a label on everything....
Oh, the irony!
Very unusual.
Quote: EvenBobMajor rain here for the next 2 days, maybe 3 in total. It's storming right now there's non-stop thunder and it's pouring. I'm laying on my bed staring out the window and having a pretty good time. It's so dark the street lights are on. If the West Coast is wondering where the rain is come to the Midwest. It's here.
Wow, 3 inches in two days is a lot. Vegas usually gets about 3 inches a year.
Quote: DRichWow, 3 inches in two days is a lot. Vegas usually gets about 3 inches a year.
Yep, flood warnings everywhere. The last time the creek flooded it came almost up to the barn. Luckily before I had the barn built in 1993 I had a bulldozer come in and raise the ground up a foot where the barn was going to go.
Yet another reason I could add to my list of never living in Portland. Poor homeless people. The humanity, the humanity. I read almost no air conditioners in Portland, the high in June is usually in the seventies. Good time to take a truck load of window units in there and make a killing.
Quote: EvenBob113 Degrees Forecast in Portland as 'life-threatening' Heat Looms
Yet another reason I could add to my list of never living in Portland. Poor homeless people. The humanity, the humanity. I read almost no air conditioners in Portland, the high in June is usually in the seventies. Good time to take a truck load of window units in there and make a killing.
If the temperature is in the 70's I would want a heater.
Quote: EvenBobThey have Portland at 113 degrees for today and 118 degrees for tomorrow. And nobody in Portland has air conditioning. I won't be going to Portland.
And they will be happy to hear that.
Quote: DRichAnd they will be happy to hear that.
Hell, I'm ecstatic.
My home is also fully air conditioned.
Yeah it's hot here in stumptown today but the humidity isn't high (16%) so the heat is more tolerable.
I remember flying from PDX to Phila. one summer, arrived at dusk, ninety-four degreees, ninety-five percent relative humidity.
Never again.
I'll put up with rare weather events such as this in exchange for a typically moderate climate.
https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-33_metric_e.html
Quote: MrV
I'll put up with rare weather events such as this in exchange for a typically moderate climate.
there are many news articles out there implying that this is due to climate change and it will not be a rare event
obviously, you're not among those who believe that
not trying to start a debate here about climate change - I guess that would be classified as political - even though it's really only a scientific issue
good luck with your weather prediction
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Quote: lilredroosterthere are many news articles out there implying that this is due to climate change
Portland was over 100 degrees in 1891 and many times throughout the 20th century. What was their excuse then, what were we doing to change the climate. Too much horse poop in the streets?
Quote: lilredroosterthere are many news articles out there implying that this is due to climate change and it will not be a rare event. obviously, you're not among those who believe that
I follow science and support the belief that our introduction of emissions into the atmosphere has negatively affected the climate (greenhouse effect).
Why would you think otherwise?
Oh, I see; you "twisted" my comment above to ascribe to me a belief which I do not hold, i.e. that higher temperatures WILL NOT BE a rare event in the future.
That is not what I was saying.
In fact I was saying that extreme heat events like this HAVE BEEN rare events historically (past tense, I was not prognosticating as to future climate events).
I do however believe that increased heat events will likely become more common in the future unless we act to reverse the effects of climate change.
These events TO DATE have been very rare, an aberation: let's hope it stays that way, and that we take the steps needed to tame the environment.
EB doesn't believe the climate is changing
from the article from NASA:
"Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists – 97 percent – agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change. Most of the leading science organizations around the world have issued public statements expressing this, including international and U.S. science academies, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and a whole host of reputable scientific bodies around the world. A list of these organizations is provided here."
but why would anybody listen to what 97% of climate scientists have to say when you can follow EB's brilliant analysis right here on WOV?
no need to look elsewhere - you can get top notch commentary right here from EB
he's obviously smarter than all those climate scientists - you think they could figure out how to beat roulette? - no way
https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/17/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/
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Quote: coilmanNew all time record heat reading yesterday in Canada. Will be broken again next couple of days again.
https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-33_metric_e.html
Hottest day ever in Las Vegas 117
Today in Lytton a town in BC Canada hit 116.6
Tuesday could be 1 degree hotter.
Quote: lilredrooster.....................
"Yes, the vast majority of actively publishing climate scientists – 97 percent – agree
Reminds me of the 1940s cigarette ads that's said 9 out of 10 doctors agree that Lucky's are good for you. That is just as convincing as what 'climate scientists' agree on. Is climate science even a real thing? Can you get doctorate in climate science?
The bad thing is your inability to benefit by new learning.
Quote: vegasHottest day ever in Las Vegas 117
Today in Lytton a town in BC Canada hit 116.6
Tuesday could be 1 degree hotter.
Looks like the official high temperature will be 115*F.
https://weather.gc.ca/past_conditions/index_e.html?station=wly
Quote: coilmanLooks like the official high temperature will be 115*F.
https://weather.gc.ca/past_conditions/index_e.html?station=wly
A mere warm day.
Quote: MrV
The bad thing is your inability to benefit by new learning.
I've been listening to this climate crap literally all of my life yet here I am with the same old spring summer fall and winter that I remember from 1955. The world was supposed to be overpopulated by 1980 and starving from lack of food. The oceans were supposed to be completely devoid of fish my 1997 yet here I am still eating cans of sardines for any $0.89 each and 15 oz cans of salmon for 2:19. I see fish markets in Japan that sell literally tons of fish a day. New York City was supposed to be underwater by 1985 from all the glaciers in the world melting. I do know one thing for an absolute fact. What we've had happen in the past, many times in the past, are ice ages. And as as sure as the cows come home every night to the barn, there is another Ice Age coming. And that will beat the living heck out of anything a little global warming would do
Be patient.
By the end of this century the changes will be quite evident.
Alas, you won't be alive to see all the changes: the higher temps, change in rain patterns and higher sea levels, but you're seeing some now, if only you'd open your eyes..
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