Hot enough for ya?
June 20th, 2017 at 7:17:10 PM
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Good grief, you folks are getting blitzed by what is described as near-record heat, and it's only mid-June.
Any heat stories?
You know, like "It was so hot..." kind of story.
Any heat stories?
You know, like "It was so hot..." kind of story.
"What, me worry?"
June 20th, 2017 at 7:22:33 PM
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Quote: MrVGood grief, you folks are getting blitzed by what is described as near-record heat, and it's only mid-June.
Any heat stories?
You know, like "It was so hot..." kind of story.
I was outside for at least 30 seconds cumulative today and it didn't seem too bad.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 20th, 2017 at 7:27:37 PM
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I think sauna temperatures can average around 150F, so there's a way to go before massive sweating, tachycardia, feelings of faintness.
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June 20th, 2017 at 8:05:14 PM
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I had to carry my 85 pound dog from the car to the house. He burnt his paws walking from the park to my car.
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June 20th, 2017 at 8:40:53 PM
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Made the bad decision in these temps a couple years ago to take my beer outside on the small deck at Flamingo Margaritaville. Went from drinkable to Hot tea in a couple minutes. Not sure it's possible to keep a drink cold in those temps.
That said, I still would take Vegas 115 over PA 95 with 80% humidity any day. Water and beer make it bearable in NV. In PA or Florida or anywhere with high humidity, nothing stops the sweat.
That said, I still would take Vegas 115 over PA 95 with 80% humidity any day. Water and beer make it bearable in NV. In PA or Florida or anywhere with high humidity, nothing stops the sweat.
June 20th, 2017 at 8:53:51 PM
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Quote: billryanI had to carry my 85 pound dog from the car to the house. He burnt his paws walking from the park to my car.
"Why won't you buy cool shoes for me, master?"
100% risk of ruin
June 20th, 2017 at 8:55:10 PM
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No interesting stories here. I was planning to go to my 8:00 AM boot camp but it was just too dang hot even that early so I blew it off. I very rarely use weather as an excuse for doing so. Then I was pretty much on house arrest with most of the rest of the city until 8:00 PM when it was finally safe to go outside for more than a minute or so.
My swimming pool provides some relief but it is bathtub warm.
My swimming pool provides some relief but it is bathtub warm.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 20th, 2017 at 10:35:33 PM
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Quote: RogerKint
"Why won't you buy cool shoes for me, master?"
June 21st, 2017 at 12:58:32 AM
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http://petslady.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/712feekdgkL._SL1500_.jpg
I looked online but all the boots seem winter/snow related. They seem interesting.
I looked online but all the boots seem winter/snow related. They seem interesting.
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June 21st, 2017 at 5:43:27 AM
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"It was so hot..."
...that I decided to live indoors. Works for me.
I agree with the earlier remark that 90 temp with 80+ humidity that's routine in other places can be much worse. There was a summer day in St. Louis watching an afternoon ball game last year where I think I came really close to needing emergency medical attention, even though I was guzzling water constantly.
But one thing I have learned in the desert is not to leave any little miscellaneous gizmo & do-dad stuff in the car, including the glove box, if it will have to be parked outside for a while during the afternoon. Stuff that's part of the car is apparently made for it, but you'd be surprised what other stuff can melt that you'd never think of. And what a stinking mess it makes when it does. An MP3 music player. A couple of pens. A tape measure in a plastic case. A gooey mass of... whatever that other puddle was. And, I seriously do have a pair of oven mitts in the trunk, just so I can touch the controls enough get the A/C all nicely fired up after having to park it outside for a while.
But that said, it beats the Hell out of ice scrapers, and tire chains, and snow shovels, and all that crap I never, ever plan to see again.
...that I decided to live indoors. Works for me.
I agree with the earlier remark that 90 temp with 80+ humidity that's routine in other places can be much worse. There was a summer day in St. Louis watching an afternoon ball game last year where I think I came really close to needing emergency medical attention, even though I was guzzling water constantly.
But one thing I have learned in the desert is not to leave any little miscellaneous gizmo & do-dad stuff in the car, including the glove box, if it will have to be parked outside for a while during the afternoon. Stuff that's part of the car is apparently made for it, but you'd be surprised what other stuff can melt that you'd never think of. And what a stinking mess it makes when it does. An MP3 music player. A couple of pens. A tape measure in a plastic case. A gooey mass of... whatever that other puddle was. And, I seriously do have a pair of oven mitts in the trunk, just so I can touch the controls enough get the A/C all nicely fired up after having to park it outside for a while.
But that said, it beats the Hell out of ice scrapers, and tire chains, and snow shovels, and all that crap I never, ever plan to see again.
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June 21st, 2017 at 6:01:40 AM
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Quote: billryanhttp://petslady.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/712feekdgkL._SL1500_.jpg
I looked online but all the boots seem winter/snow related. They seem interesting.
Sweaty paw syndrome (SPS) is the number one side effect.
100% risk of ruin
June 21st, 2017 at 6:19:03 AM
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Quote: Wizard
My swimming pool provides some relief but it is bathtub warm.
My pool was 91 degrees on Monday. I didn't even bother looking yesterday because I knew it would even be hotter.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 21st, 2017 at 7:35:14 AM
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I wonder how popular and effective a swimming pool cooler / chiller would be in these conditions and in Las Vegas overall?
Googled it up: Glacier makes them and they seem to be well thought of.
Googled it up: Glacier makes them and they seem to be well thought of.
"What, me worry?"
June 21st, 2017 at 12:20:46 PM
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"They say it was so hot downtown this afternoon grown men on the street corner were going up to cops - begging the cops to shoot them."
Views are my own...
June 21st, 2017 at 12:44:10 PM
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Quote: TheoHuxtable"They say it was so hot downtown this afternoon grown men on the street corner were going up to cops - begging the cops to shoot them."
Reminds me of an old Leno joke back when there was a heat wave on the east coast:
"It was so hot in NYC today that mob informants were throwing themselves into the East River!"
"Dealer has 'rock'... Pay 'paper!'"
June 21st, 2017 at 5:01:00 PM
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This is bad, but not nearly as steamy as a NYC heatwave. Go four or five days with 95 plus and severe humidity and people start to crack. A sideways glance turns into an insult. People mug folks in front of cops just to go to an air conditioned cell. Kids steal cars just to ride around in the ac. Birds get stuck in the tar on rooftops.
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June 21st, 2017 at 5:06:51 PM
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Quote:Father-and-son hikers have been found dead in Carlsbad Caverns National Park in New Mexico, where temperatures have topped 100 degrees during the extraordinary heat wave gripping the western United States
The body of Robert Stuart Pluta, 57, of Corpus Christi, Texas, was discovered Monday night, and the body of his son Bobby, 21, was found Tuesday morning, New Mexico State Police said.
The Plutas, both of whom were experienced hikers, had been on a hiking trip since Wednesday of last week but hadn't been heard from since they checked into their hotel, NBC station KRIS of Corpus Christi reported. A parkwide search was launched on Monday
If you're experienced would you be hiking around in this heat?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/father-son-hikers-found-dead-in-sweltering-new-mexico-park/ar-BBD0my9?ocid=spartanntp
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June 21st, 2017 at 5:21:00 PM
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I'll be in Vegas 4th of July weekend.
I picked my hotel based on who has the best pool since I figured it's gonna be hot as hell.
I picked my hotel based on who has the best pool since I figured it's gonna be hot as hell.
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June 21st, 2017 at 5:34:31 PM
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Just got in my car (was outside in a parking lot). Temperature read 117 degrees. Granted it's not that hot. IIRC temperature has to be recorded in the shade for it to "count" or something stupid.
But it doesn't feel super hot outside. I'm not gonna go running in no triathalons or nothing crazy like that, but walking to/from car/casino, it's not bad at all. I like it.
The Trump hotel, you say? ;-)
But it doesn't feel super hot outside. I'm not gonna go running in no triathalons or nothing crazy like that, but walking to/from car/casino, it's not bad at all. I like it.
Quote: ams288I'll be in Vegas 4th of July weekend.
I picked my hotel based on who has the best pool since I figured it's gonna be hot as hell.
The Trump hotel, you say? ;-)
June 21st, 2017 at 5:58:18 PM
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Yes, its actually a good time to hike. All the wannabes are off the trail. Hike early mornings and pre-dusk and hole up in the daytime. Something obviously went very wrong.
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June 21st, 2017 at 6:08:02 PM
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Sort of related.
SANTA FE, N.M. — New Mexico's top law enforcement officer is urging the author and antiquities dealer who inspired thousands to search remote corners of the American West for a hidden chest of gold and jewels to end the treasure hunt.
The plea from State Police Chief Pete Kassetas follows what authorities believe is the latest death related to the effort to uncover Forrest Fenn's treasure.
Colorado pastor Paris Wallace disappeared last week while searching for the bounty in a rugged area along the Rio Grande in northern New Mexico. His family reported him missing, triggering an extensive search.
State Police believe a body recovered Sunday is Wallace's. Medical investigators were working Tuesday to make a positive identification.
Kassetas told reporters that Fenn should retrieve the treasure from wherever he hid it and stop what he called nonsense and insanity.
"He's putting lives at risk," the chief said, noting that he planned to contact Fenn personally to ask him to call off the hunt.
Fenn did not respond to emails from The Associated Press asking about Wallace's disappearance and the calls to end the search for the cache of gold coins, jewels and other artifacts he claims to have hidden somewhere in the Rocky Mountains.
Fenn has dropped clues to its whereabouts in a cryptic poem in his memoir, "The Thrill of the Chase."
He told the Santa Fe New Mexican newspaper Monday that he has been considering how to make the search safer or cancel it altogether but has not made any decisions. He called Wallace's disappearance tragic.
The 52-year-old pastor traveled to the Espanola area last week. His wife reported him missing Wednesday after he didn't return home and hotel staff informed her that his belongings were still in his room.
Police and wildlife officials searched forest and county roads and popular hiking trails.
After looking at Wallace's laptop, authorities learned of other locations where he might have gone. They eventually found his vehicle along the Rio Grande.
At the edge of the water, officers saw two red ropes tied together and to a large rock. Receipts in Wallace's vehicle indicated the ropes belonged to him.
Rescuers spent two days searching the river until rafters spotted a body downstream — about 7 miles from where Wallace was last believed to have been.
Authorities say the search effort required extensive resources, including air support, the state police dive team, numerous officers, canine teams and volunteers.
Mitzi Wallace, Wallace's fellow treasure hunter and wife of 30 years, said it would be a mistake for Fenn to end the hunt, and she would continue to search for the treasure with her 19-year-old son, including in the area where authorities believe her husband died.
"Our treasure is that time we spend together," she told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
She added without elaborating that her husband put himself in a dangerous situation that cost him his life. But "I know without a shadow of a doubt that it was God's way of taking him."
Efforts to find wayward treasure hunters have put the lives of law enforcement officers and search and rescue volunteers at risk while straining state resources, Kassetas said.
New Mexico's search and rescue team launched a survey Tuesday on whether Fenn should call off the search.
"Over the years, as people have searched for this treasure, some have ended up getting into trouble and needing help from search and rescue. At least two have lost their lives looking for the treasure chest," the survey says.
Last year, searchers spent weeks looking for Randy Bilyeu, another Colorado man who disappeared in the New Mexico backcountry while looking for the loot.
Volunteers led by Bilyeu's ex-wife eventually picked up where the official search left off, and Bilyeu's remains were found several months later.
SANTA FE, N.M. — New Mexico's top law enforcement officer is urging the author and antiquities dealer who inspired thousands to search remote corners of the American West for a hidden chest of gold and jewels to end the treasure hunt.
The plea from State Police Chief Pete Kassetas follows what authorities believe is the latest death related to the effort to uncover Forrest Fenn's treasure.
Colorado pastor Paris Wallace disappeared last week while searching for the bounty in a rugged area along the Rio Grande in northern New Mexico. His family reported him missing, triggering an extensive search.
State Police believe a body recovered Sunday is Wallace's. Medical investigators were working Tuesday to make a positive identification.
Kassetas told reporters that Fenn should retrieve the treasure from wherever he hid it and stop what he called nonsense and insanity.
"He's putting lives at risk," the chief said, noting that he planned to contact Fenn personally to ask him to call off the hunt.
Fenn did not respond to emails from The Associated Press asking about Wallace's disappearance and the calls to end the search for the cache of gold coins, jewels and other artifacts he claims to have hidden somewhere in the Rocky Mountains.
Fenn has dropped clues to its whereabouts in a cryptic poem in his memoir, "The Thrill of the Chase."
He told the Santa Fe New Mexican newspaper Monday that he has been considering how to make the search safer or cancel it altogether but has not made any decisions. He called Wallace's disappearance tragic.
The 52-year-old pastor traveled to the Espanola area last week. His wife reported him missing Wednesday after he didn't return home and hotel staff informed her that his belongings were still in his room.
Police and wildlife officials searched forest and county roads and popular hiking trails.
After looking at Wallace's laptop, authorities learned of other locations where he might have gone. They eventually found his vehicle along the Rio Grande.
At the edge of the water, officers saw two red ropes tied together and to a large rock. Receipts in Wallace's vehicle indicated the ropes belonged to him.
Rescuers spent two days searching the river until rafters spotted a body downstream — about 7 miles from where Wallace was last believed to have been.
Authorities say the search effort required extensive resources, including air support, the state police dive team, numerous officers, canine teams and volunteers.
Mitzi Wallace, Wallace's fellow treasure hunter and wife of 30 years, said it would be a mistake for Fenn to end the hunt, and she would continue to search for the treasure with her 19-year-old son, including in the area where authorities believe her husband died.
"Our treasure is that time we spend together," she told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
She added without elaborating that her husband put himself in a dangerous situation that cost him his life. But "I know without a shadow of a doubt that it was God's way of taking him."
Efforts to find wayward treasure hunters have put the lives of law enforcement officers and search and rescue volunteers at risk while straining state resources, Kassetas said.
New Mexico's search and rescue team launched a survey Tuesday on whether Fenn should call off the search.
"Over the years, as people have searched for this treasure, some have ended up getting into trouble and needing help from search and rescue. At least two have lost their lives looking for the treasure chest," the survey says.
Last year, searchers spent weeks looking for Randy Bilyeu, another Colorado man who disappeared in the New Mexico backcountry while looking for the loot.
Volunteers led by Bilyeu's ex-wife eventually picked up where the official search left off, and Bilyeu's remains were found several months later.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
June 21st, 2017 at 6:15:21 PM
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Quote: RSThe Trump hotel, you say? ;-)
If it had a casino and was actually on the strip, I wouldn't be opposed to staying at the Trump hotel in Vegas.
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June 21st, 2017 at 7:54:32 PM
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I hadn't heard of Fenn and his treasure poem.
Here it is:
"As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.
Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.
From there it's no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;
There'll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.
If you've been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,
But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
Just take the chest and go in peace.
So why is it that I must go
And leave my trove for all to seek?
The answers I already know,
I've done it tired, and now I'm weak.
So hear me all and listen good,
Your effort will be worth the cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
I give you title to the gold."
Here it is:
"As I have gone alone in there
And with my treasures bold,
I can keep my secret where,
And hint of riches new and old.
Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.
From there it's no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;
There'll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.
If you've been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,
But tarry scant with marvel gaze,
Just take the chest and go in peace.
So why is it that I must go
And leave my trove for all to seek?
The answers I already know,
I've done it tired, and now I'm weak.
So hear me all and listen good,
Your effort will be worth the cold.
If you are brave and in the wood
I give you title to the gold."
"What, me worry?"
June 21st, 2017 at 9:44:51 PM
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My son feels very strongly that the treasure is somewhere near the Flaming Gorge Dam. Don't tell him I told you.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 21st, 2017 at 10:02:24 PM
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Road Trip!!!!!!!!
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June 21st, 2017 at 10:17:36 PM
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Apparently Mr. Wallace felt very strongly that the treasuresnipe was at the bottom of the Rio Grande river. Maybe it found him.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 9:30:13 AM
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It's been hot in Northern AZ this week, a couple of days ago my Highlander showed an outside temperature of 111.
And here's the result, which is a good reminder to be careful with what and where you leave things in your car; my semi-melted dash cam:
It still works, but I'd guess there are a lot of things that would die completely if left in the sun for any length of time.
And here's the result, which is a good reminder to be careful with what and where you leave things in your car; my semi-melted dash cam:
It still works, but I'd guess there are a lot of things that would die completely if left in the sun for any length of time.
June 22nd, 2017 at 10:29:56 AM
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>>>>I hadn't heard of Fenn and his treasure poem.
I started a thread on it somewhere. either here or DT.
>>>Begin it where warm waters halt
Does warm and halt relate to color or to temperature? To stop or 'halt' in the sense of 'the lame, the halt, the blind'? That is a sudden crookedness of a waterway? After all few streams ever suddenly stop.
>>>>Put in below the home of Brown.
Go from your boat to teh shore 'below' (south?) of a fort originally founded by a man named Brown?
Mary Caperton Morton, whom I've quoted a few times on this site for touristy Nevada stuff, has spent four years searching for the treasure (seasonally). She used to be a professional housesitter but is now located in either BigBend or Utah or somewhere and is not actively searching for the treasure. I think if she does find it, much of the items will be donated to the Big Sky Ski Patrol.
The expert hikers who died recently... or were they merely 'experienced' hikers? Anyway, years of experience at normal temperatures doesn't grant wisdom at high temperatures and once you are 'out there' how else do you get back but hike to your car? Sit at a stream or spring and have food run out but water available? Maybe. How long will the heat wave be though? Were there streams or springs available to them?
I started a thread on it somewhere. either here or DT.
>>>Begin it where warm waters halt
Does warm and halt relate to color or to temperature? To stop or 'halt' in the sense of 'the lame, the halt, the blind'? That is a sudden crookedness of a waterway? After all few streams ever suddenly stop.
>>>>Put in below the home of Brown.
Go from your boat to teh shore 'below' (south?) of a fort originally founded by a man named Brown?
Mary Caperton Morton, whom I've quoted a few times on this site for touristy Nevada stuff, has spent four years searching for the treasure (seasonally). She used to be a professional housesitter but is now located in either BigBend or Utah or somewhere and is not actively searching for the treasure. I think if she does find it, much of the items will be donated to the Big Sky Ski Patrol.
The expert hikers who died recently... or were they merely 'experienced' hikers? Anyway, years of experience at normal temperatures doesn't grant wisdom at high temperatures and once you are 'out there' how else do you get back but hike to your car? Sit at a stream or spring and have food run out but water available? Maybe. How long will the heat wave be though? Were there streams or springs available to them?
June 22nd, 2017 at 11:47:40 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffBegin it where warm waters halt
My son thinks this is a reference to a dam. As you may know, water released from a big dam is very cold because it gets released from the bottom of the reservoir behind the dam.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
June 22nd, 2017 at 1:02:29 PM
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Quote: billryan's sourceWallace's fellow treasure hunter and wife of 30 years, said ... that her husband put himself in a dangerous situation that cost him his life. But "I know without a shadow of a doubt that it was God's way of taking him."
I have to assume this statement was weird enough to raise eyebrows with any homicide detectives involved
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
June 22nd, 2017 at 1:54:17 PM
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I think it was just her way of saying he dies doing what he loved. Something I think most of us wish for.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 2:42:22 PM
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Quote: billryanI think it was just her way of saying he dies doing what he loved. Something I think most of us wish for.
I don't think the 18 year old lovely female who is with me will enjoy it so much.
Oh, is this real or just a wish?
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June 22nd, 2017 at 4:10:34 PM
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Go rent an 18 year old.
Dime a dozen.
Dime a dozen.
"What, me worry?"
June 22nd, 2017 at 4:40:30 PM
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From ACTUALLY READING the copied account of the demise of these two snipe hunters, one really wouldn't start to imagine that the temperature had anything to do with Mr. Wallace going into the RIVER and drowning himself in it:
Or see any reason to think that the temperature in June of 2017 had anything to do with the other fellow, Randy Bilyeu, who was said to have disappeared LAST YEAR. Maybe that fool froze himself to death in winter. Or not, Perhaps Mr. Bilyeu got himself lost and starved, or fell and was injured while climbing around in the wilderness and was eaten by coyotes. But it surely wasn't about whatever heat might exist now, A YEAR LATER and two time zones away. At this moment the temperatures in the mountainous wilderness areas around Santa Fe and the like are about eighty-something degrees.Quote: billryan....They eventually found his vehicle along the Rio Grande.
At the edge of the water, officers saw two red ropes tied together and to a large rock. Receipts in Wallace's vehicle indicated the ropes belonged to him.
Rescuers spent two days searching the river until rafters spotted a body downstream — about 7 miles from where Wallace was last believed to have been....
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June 22nd, 2017 at 4:57:31 PM
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Quote: DrawingDeadFrom ACTUALLY READING the copied account of the demise of these two snipe hunters, one really wouldn't start to imagine that the temperature had anything to do with Mr. Wallace going into the RIVER and drowning himself in it:Or see any reason to think that the temperature in June of 2017 had anything to do with the other fellow, Randy Bilyeu, who was said to have disappeared LAST YEAR. Maybe that fool froze himself to death in winter. Or not, Perhaps Mr. Bilyeu got himself lost and starved, or fell and was injured while climbing around in the wilderness and was eaten by coyotes. But it surely wasn't about whatever heat might exist now, A YEAR LATER and two time zones away. At this moment the temperatures in the mountainous wilderness areas around Santa Fe and the like are about eighty-something degrees.
My map has the mountains of Santa Fe hundreds of miles away from where he was, and has all of New Mexico in one time zone.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 5:24:42 PM
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What map? You copied and pasted an entire article, violating someone's copyright. It contains no map, and no link to wherever you got it from, but the stolen cut-and-pasted text says the Colorado fellow was in New Mexico. New Mexico is two time zones* a time zone and a half away from here, where it is "hot enough for ya." That is far away. When I gas up in Tucumcari, New Mexico, after driving for about 11 hours, I am halfway to St. Louis. And it is a very different elevation and climate.
The temperature in Albuquerque is 84 degrees. And in Gallup it is in the 90s. And down near the Mexican border with NM it is mid 100-ish, such as Las Cruces at 103. And none of that could possibly have any relevance whatsoever to what happened to one fellow (Mr. Wallace) who drowned himself in a river, and another (Mr. Bilyeu) who disappeared sometime last year.
I think the snipe hunt is interesting, and makes for a fine thing to chatter about. IMO an even better thing to chatter about than the common elevator babble about ridiculously overhyped summer weather stories, so I'm all for it, and didn't mean to imply otherwise if it sounded like that. Even though the demise of both these fellows quite obviously has nothing at all to do with the temperature in the Mohave Desert far away, or any current or recent temperature anywhere for that matter.
*Correction: I was technically mistaken to say "two time zones." New Mexico is "only" about 500-600+ miles away, and is still (barely) within the eastern edge of the Mountain time zone just bordering on the Central time zone, so one time zone away from Las Vegas, etc.
Espanola is in the mountainous high country above Santa Fe, not far from a part of the Apache reservation. It is nestled in the Rocky Mountains that form the Continental Divide. And it is about 20-25 degrees cooler than Las Vegas, NV, or 25-30 degrees colder than Phoenix, AZ. And the higher elevation mountain areas all around it would be lower, getting downright chilly.Quote:traveled to the Espanola area
The temperature in Albuquerque is 84 degrees. And in Gallup it is in the 90s. And down near the Mexican border with NM it is mid 100-ish, such as Las Cruces at 103. And none of that could possibly have any relevance whatsoever to what happened to one fellow (Mr. Wallace) who drowned himself in a river, and another (Mr. Bilyeu) who disappeared sometime last year.
I think the snipe hunt is interesting, and makes for a fine thing to chatter about. IMO an even better thing to chatter about than the common elevator babble about ridiculously overhyped summer weather stories, so I'm all for it, and didn't mean to imply otherwise if it sounded like that. Even though the demise of both these fellows quite obviously has nothing at all to do with the temperature in the Mohave Desert far away, or any current or recent temperature anywhere for that matter.
*Correction: I was technically mistaken to say "two time zones." New Mexico is "only" about 500-600+ miles away, and is still (barely) within the eastern edge of the Mountain time zone just bordering on the Central time zone, so one time zone away from Las Vegas, etc.
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June 22nd, 2017 at 6:07:27 PM
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I dont think there is a treasure. Might be cynical, but who gives away so much money without really giving it away. I wouldn't dig for it if I was told it was in my backyard.
I am a robot.
June 22nd, 2017 at 6:10:27 PM
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"Sort of related."
As in this isn't exactly related, but interesting in a related way.
Give a moment or two to the angry young man
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand
He's been stabbed in the back, he's been misunderstood
It's a comfort to know his intentions are good
And he sits in a room with a lock on the door
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man
Billy Martin Joel. Long Island, 1975.
As in this isn't exactly related, but interesting in a related way.
Give a moment or two to the angry young man
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand
He's been stabbed in the back, he's been misunderstood
It's a comfort to know his intentions are good
And he sits in a room with a lock on the door
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man
Billy Martin Joel. Long Island, 1975.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
June 22nd, 2017 at 6:51:42 PM
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Chill, Billdude. No anger, and I ain't all that young. I completely understand that you understood that it was just kinda sorta related, but actually introducing something else not really about any heat thing going on here and now. And I'm glad you mentioned it. I hope chatter about it continues, so I get to make fun of the snipe hunt.
The "actually reading" and related remarks about relevance to this week's weather hereabouts were not about you. Some other folks have trouble reading stuff, and went off making their own very different version, implying that those two people just croaked yesterday because heat struck them down, entirely different from the actual text of what you posted. You didn't make anyone do that. It happens a lot around here, because the site does disproportionately attract folks who are challenged in literacy and attention span. Part of the territory of hanging on the 'net with gamblers; their impulsive imagination takes just a few random fragments and goes off & makes up stuff; and they can't help it.
But there is one thing that is serious. Not because I say so. It is necessary to stop cutting and pasting entire articles, and posting them without attribution. That is flat out theft, and has potential legal and financial consequences for people who run web forums. Please take this suggestion to heart, which is also by necessity a general rule of all public forums, including this one:
The thing to do is to post just a quoted excerpt of maybe a few sentences or a paragraph or so that gives an idea of what it is all about, with attribution indicating whose work and property it is and a link to the original for people to go to the source to read the rest. If you don't like getting that from me because I've been annoying in this exchange, I totally understand; Annoyance is my middle name, I am: "Drwg. Annoyance Dead." Then in that case, please do get the word on that from the moderators and owners here, or look at it in the forum rules if you don't want to ask about it. It is something that's necessary for all of us using forums to discuss things that involve content that's created by others, kept by them in their places and owned by them.
That part doesn't have to do with me being anything. It has to do with not getting the people running the place here sued and costing them a whole bunch of money. Besides respecting others' work and the property they create.
The "actually reading" and related remarks about relevance to this week's weather hereabouts were not about you. Some other folks have trouble reading stuff, and went off making their own very different version, implying that those two people just croaked yesterday because heat struck them down, entirely different from the actual text of what you posted. You didn't make anyone do that. It happens a lot around here, because the site does disproportionately attract folks who are challenged in literacy and attention span. Part of the territory of hanging on the 'net with gamblers; their impulsive imagination takes just a few random fragments and goes off & makes up stuff; and they can't help it.
But there is one thing that is serious. Not because I say so. It is necessary to stop cutting and pasting entire articles, and posting them without attribution. That is flat out theft, and has potential legal and financial consequences for people who run web forums. Please take this suggestion to heart, which is also by necessity a general rule of all public forums, including this one:
The thing to do is to post just a quoted excerpt of maybe a few sentences or a paragraph or so that gives an idea of what it is all about, with attribution indicating whose work and property it is and a link to the original for people to go to the source to read the rest. If you don't like getting that from me because I've been annoying in this exchange, I totally understand; Annoyance is my middle name, I am: "Drwg. Annoyance Dead." Then in that case, please do get the word on that from the moderators and owners here, or look at it in the forum rules if you don't want to ask about it. It is something that's necessary for all of us using forums to discuss things that involve content that's created by others, kept by them in their places and owned by them.
That part doesn't have to do with me being anything. It has to do with not getting the people running the place here sued and costing them a whole bunch of money. Besides respecting others' work and the property they create.
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
June 22nd, 2017 at 7:07:21 PM
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I like turtles.
Quote: DrawingDeadChill, Billdude. No anger, and I ain't all that young. I completely understand that you understood that it was just kinda sorta related, but actually introducing something else not really about any heat thing going on here and now. And I'm glad you mentioned it. I hope chatter about it continues, so I get to make fun of the snipe hunt.
The "actually reading" and related remarks about relevance to this week's weather hereabouts were not about you. Some other folks have trouble reading stuff, and went off making their own very different version, implying that those two people just croaked yesterday because heat struck them down, entirely different from the actual text of what you posted. You didn't make anyone do that. It happens a lot around here, because the site does disproportionately attract folks who are challenged in literacy and attention span. Part of the territory of hanging on the 'net with gamblers; their impulsive imagination takes just a few random fragments and goes off & makes up stuff; and they can't help it.
But there is one thing that is serious. Not because I say so. It is necessary to stop cutting and pasting entire articles, and posting them without attribution. That is flat out theft, and has potential legal and financial consequences for people who run web forums. Please take this suggestion to heart, which is also by necessity a general rule of all public forums, including this one:
The thing to do is to post just a quoted excerpt of maybe a few sentences or a paragraph or so that gives an idea of what it is all about, with attribution indicating whose work and property it is and a link to the original for people to go to the source to read the rest. If you don't like getting that from me because I've been annoying in this exchange, I totally understand; Annoyance is my middle name, I am: "Drwg. Annoyance Dead." Then in that case, please do get the word on that from the moderators and owners here, or look at it in the forum rules if you don't want to ask about it. It is something that's necessary for all of us using forums to discuss things that involve content that's created by others, kept by them in their places and owned by them.
That part doesn't have to do with me being anything. It has to do with not getting the people running the place here sued and costing them a whole bunch of money. Besides respecting others' work and the property they create.
I am a robot.
June 22nd, 2017 at 7:15:01 PM
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Yes, you do. Nice face paint.Quote: onenickelmiracle...
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
June 22nd, 2017 at 7:24:14 PM
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How hot is it supppsed to be in Vegas next week?
It's been like ~95 on the east coast but 100% humidity at times .... I'm willing to bet that's worse than Vegas right now but I'll see for myself
It's been like ~95 on the east coast but 100% humidity at times .... I'm willing to bet that's worse than Vegas right now but I'll see for myself
June 22nd, 2017 at 7:36:54 PM
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Quote: gamerfreakHow hot is it supppsed to be in Vegas next week?
It's been like ~95 on the east coast but 100% humidity at times .... I'm willing to bet that's worse than Vegas right now but I'll see for myself
It is supposed to be around 107 next week which I find much more comfortable than 90 and high humidity.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
June 22nd, 2017 at 7:43:14 PM
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Dry or not I consider anything 110 and up too damn hot.
Sanitized for Your Protection
June 22nd, 2017 at 8:24:46 PM
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When I came home to that, from that, returning from a road-trip junket about a year ago it was damn refreshing. No kidding at all. But that's me. Maybe it was partly just the emotional comfort of seeing that I was back in the land of complementary beverage servers wearing outfits made of a strand of dental floss, and suchlike.Quote: DRichIt is supposed to be around 107 next week which I find much more comfortable than 90 and high humidity.
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
June 22nd, 2017 at 10:26:14 PM
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I follow Death Valley National Park on Facebook as I visited last year and going again next year. They reached 127 the last few days at Furnace Creek.
June 22nd, 2017 at 11:24:39 PM
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Heck, it's supposed to reach about 100 in Portland this Sunday.
But I won't be here: headed to the Oregon coast to keep cool.
Not just temperature wise: going to watch Robbie Laws play at Rusty Truck.
Las Vegas has its entertainment, and so does Portland.
Actually, there's a great blues scene here and abouts.
see: Hey Mister
But I won't be here: headed to the Oregon coast to keep cool.
Not just temperature wise: going to watch Robbie Laws play at Rusty Truck.
Las Vegas has its entertainment, and so does Portland.
Actually, there's a great blues scene here and abouts.
see: Hey Mister
"What, me worry?"
June 22nd, 2017 at 11:44:05 PM
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Was 90 here and our power went for out 4.5 hours thanks to nearly hurricane force winds.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
June 23rd, 2017 at 12:27:35 AM
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My secretary just spent over thirty-five grand to have solar panels and related equipment installed in her home.
Is this common in Las Vegas also?
Is this common in Las Vegas also?
"What, me worry?"
June 23rd, 2017 at 12:36:51 AM
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I see it more and more, so ya. Sounds about right as far as the price. My place says it's In a excellent location for Solar power.Quote: MrVMy secretary just spent over thirty-five grand to have solar panels and related equipment installed in her home.
Is this common in Las Vegas also?
It takes a long time to recoup the cost but it supposedly adds 10's of thousands to the value of your home.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
