Miscellaneous Discussion Thread
March 21st, 2020 at 10:02:31 AM
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Quote: SOOPOOGood point. I've always wondered to what degree it is scripted.
Seriously? It's 100% scripted and rehearsed.
You think one of the wrestlers wants to be
caught by a surprise move and spend a
month in the hospital because he didn't
know it was coming? It's like stunt men
in movies, rehearse rehearse rehearse.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 21st, 2020 at 1:32:33 PM
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I agree with Bob, I think it is 100% scripted and that they practice it each day before the match.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
March 21st, 2020 at 3:26:17 PM
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wrestling 100% unscripted and real.Quote: DRichI agree with Bob, I think it is 100% scripted and that they practice it each day before the match.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 21st, 2020 at 4:27:24 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfwrestling 100% unscripted and real.
It's fake but don't think for one
minute the wrestlers aren't
real life tough guys. I've met
some back in my cab days
and nothing they would like
better than for somebody
to throw the first punch so
they can beat the crap out of
them.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 21st, 2020 at 5:02:27 PM
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Quote: EvenBobSeriously? It's 100% scripted and rehearsed.
You think one of the wrestlers wants to be
caught by a surprise move and spend a
month in the hospital because he didn't
know it was coming? It's like stunt men
in movies, rehearse rehearse rehearse.
It’s scripted but not literally move for move.
Back in the 80s, the wrestling era I followed, marches would last for an hour. You think both guys had every single headlock and armbar planned out for 60 minutes? And they wrestled 6 nights a week.
March 21st, 2020 at 5:37:04 PM
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Quote: DRichI agree with Bob, I think it is 100% scripted and that they practice it each day before the match.
Been to a lot of matches? The top performers wrestle 250 nights a year, and wrestlers in minor promotions can sometimes wrestle 10 times a week. Time and logistics make it impossible for them to rehearse with their opponents before each bout. What they do do is practice hitting their marks. Roman throws Dolph into the ropes and sidekicks him on the rebound. Roman knows exactly where to start his kick and Dolph knows exactly where to crash so while it looks like Roman kicked him in the chest,in reality the kick hit the mark a fraction of a second after he vacated the spot. Roman spent hundreds of hours perfecting where to start his kick, and Dolph knows exactly where to fall,also the results of hundreds of hours. Tomorrow, Roman faces John and launches his kick from the same spot with the same result. Dolph faces someone else and that guy lands the exact same kick and Dolph lands in the exact place. Both wrestlers hit their marks and it looks fantastic.
Randy Orton now has a gimmick where he smashes a chair onto a prone opponents face. It looks great, even in slow motion but if you watch carefully, Randy 's feet are always the exact same distance from his opponent and thousands of repetitions have given him the muscle memory that the chair will land in the same space. His opponents just have to have enough trust not to move. All it takes is balls of steel. When you do a blind backwards dive off the top rope , you have to have faith that your opponents will be in the right spot to deflect your fall enough that neither of you get killed.
The trend today is for much smaller, incredibly athletic types as opposed to the Hulk Hogan type wrestlers. The wrestler most people know as Finn Bailor doesn't weigh 160 pounds but is fearless. Some of the most in demand Indy wrestlers are former college gymnasts.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 21st, 2020 at 10:47:26 PM
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Never was a big follower of wrestling but which moves are legit and which are fake. Iron claw seems fake. Sleeper seems legit, or could be.
These are like moves from the 70s, so you know how up to date I am. : )
Oh, remembered another. Figure Four. That looks legit.
These are like moves from the 70s, so you know how up to date I am. : )
Oh, remembered another. Figure Four. That looks legit.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
March 21st, 2020 at 11:58:42 PM
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Quote: billryanTime and logistics make it impossible for them to rehearse with their opponents before each bout.
Obviously. They're like circus performers,
they do the same routines over and over
till they're perfected. They add new moves
and take old ones out. The point is they
know exactly how every move will go when
they get into the ring, and who's winning
and losing today. Ever see stunt men practice
a bar fight by doing it in slow motion? They
have to know every move or somebody
will get hurt for real. Which they do a lot
of the time anyway.
I saw lots of fights in the bar biz and none
ever lasted longer than 10 seconds. Usually
less time than that. When you get hurt your
desire to fight disappears.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:11:32 AM
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Thank goodness a second referee intervened to break up the brawl at 1:08:25!
March 22nd, 2020 at 6:30:14 AM
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Quote: rxwineNever was a big follower of wrestling but which moves are legit and which are fake. Iron claw seems fake. Sleeper seems legit, or could be.
These are like moves from the 70s, so you know how up to date I am. : )
Oh, remembered another. Figure Four. That looks legit.
The sleeper is a real move, in that you can choke somebody out by cutting off their oxygen. However, in a wrestling match, no trained wrestler applies pressure. Same thing with the figure four/Indian deathlock. Until about fifteen years ago, the biggest danger a wrestler usually faced was the very real possibility that his opponent was drunk or high and would miss their marks. The locker rooms are much better at self-policing these days as the moves have gotten progressively more dangerous. Jimmy Snuka used to drive the crowd wild by jumping off the top turnbuckle. That's routine these days. Sabu was called suicidal for some of his moves, but now they are standard fare for most high flyers. Rey Mysterio used to have moves no one else would even attempt. Now I've seen high school kids do them in seminars. These days, it is the person doing the move that is at risk, not so much the person on the receiving side.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 6:37:07 AM
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Quote: smoothgrhThank goodness a second referee intervened to break up the brawl at 1:08:25!
A perfect example of how wrestling has evolved. Daniel Bryan is 150 pounds, soaking wet. Shin Kay is reed thin and I doubt he can benchpress his own weight but they are two of the biggest drawers in the game. Austin Ares is considered the best wrestler in the world by many and is 5'6, maybe 145 pounds.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:18:36 AM
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everybody knows wrestling is fake
but a lot of those moves - especially body slams look really painful even if they are fake
this article was really interesting (to me)
quote from Diamond Dallas Page - "the fake stuff hurts like hell"
ACH describes the feeling after being suplexed off of the top rope in Japan - it left him breathless
Roma has had injuries to his neck, elbows, knees, and broken ribs and broken teeth.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2610966-this-fake-stuff-hurts-like-hell-pro-wrestlings-painful-toll-on-the-body
but a lot of those moves - especially body slams look really painful even if they are fake
this article was really interesting (to me)
quote from Diamond Dallas Page - "the fake stuff hurts like hell"
ACH describes the feeling after being suplexed off of the top rope in Japan - it left him breathless
Roma has had injuries to his neck, elbows, knees, and broken ribs and broken teeth.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2610966-this-fake-stuff-hurts-like-hell-pro-wrestlings-painful-toll-on-the-body
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March 22nd, 2020 at 11:22:25 AM
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I took care of a wrestler that needed ICU after an ECW match when ECW was first starting. Pretty sure the guy sitting with him was his opponent from the match he got hurt in.
There was just an obituary about a dead Mexican wrestler. He broke his neck on a failed 'leap between the ropes and hit my opponent move". shit happens.
There was just an obituary about a dead Mexican wrestler. He broke his neck on a failed 'leap between the ropes and hit my opponent move". shit happens.
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:35:43 AM
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Thirty years ago, wrestles felt pressure to do steroids because everyone wanted bigger and stronger. These days, the pressure is on for them to perform death defying stunts. When ECW first broke out, in the mid 1990s, the level of violence shocked many. Now there is a subculture that demands weapons matches, barb wire matches, exploding ring matches, people using staple guns on each other or really using bats wrapped in barb wire. Mainstream wrestling is getting crazy, but hardcore wrestling has been truly insane for years.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:19:23 PM
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A very quick working and effective move. When I was a teen I used it on others and had it used on me multiple times. Basically you just black out for a few seconds.Quote: billryanThe sleeper is a real move, in that you can choke somebody out by cutting off their oxygen.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:39:57 PM
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Quote: billryanThe sleeper is a real move, in that you can choke somebody out by cutting off their oxygen.
It only didn’t work on hulk hogan. Sure you can get him to the brink of dreamland , but when he raised his arm and began waving that index finger, you knew he was still awake. Roddy Piper learned this lesson the hard way.
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:51:06 PM
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Quote: billryanusing bats wrapped in barb wire.
Poor things. Do they have rabies as well?
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
March 22nd, 2020 at 1:02:57 PM
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Quote: EvenBobObviously. They're like circus performers, they do the same routines over and over till they're perfected. They add new moves and take old ones out. The point is they know exactly how every move will go when they get into the ring, and who's winning and losing today. Ever see stunt men practice a bar fight by doing it in slow motion? They have to know every move or somebody will get hurt for real. Which they do a lot of the time anyway.
While some moves - especially finishing moves in big matches - may be rehearsed, and they are all trained to, for example, take chair shots to the back, for the most part, what you see in a wrestling match is "called" on the fly by one of the wrestlers. They are told in advance how the match will turn out, and things like whether (and when) other wrestlers will try to interfere, or how the match should end, but for the most part, one of the wrestlers - I heard somewhere that it's usually the "bad guy" in the match - will tell the other what moves to do and what moves are upcoming. This could be a problem if there is no crowd, as usually the crowd noise drowns out any of the calls.
A famous example of this was in the first WrestleMania main event; there is a close-up of Paul Orndorff being whipped over to where Mr. T is, and you can clearly see Orndorff tell Mr. T, "Head butt!," which Mr. T then applies.
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:18:35 PM
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John Bradshaw Layfield and his "clothesline from hell"
nobody is ever going to convince me that being on the receiving end of this didn't hurt
nobody is ever going to convince me that being on the receiving end of this didn't hurt
Please don't feed the trolls
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:27:53 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterJohn Bradshaw Layfield and his "clothesline from hell"
nobody is ever going to convince me that being on the receiving end of this didn't hurt
Of course it hurts. Some people thrive on pain. Once you accept the fact something is going to hurt, you can give in to it or you can drive on.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:32:59 PM
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I attended a fan fest in Jersey a few years ago and the guy from "The Wrestler" movie was letting people staple their $20 bills onto his arms and chest. For $100, you could staple it onto his cheek. Supposedly, he had some sort of zombie effect drug that deadened his nerve cells. Personally, I thought he was insane.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:52:47 PM
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Quote: lilredroosterJohn Bradshaw Layfield and his "clothesline from hell"
nobody is ever going to convince me that being on the receiving end of this didn't hurt
Clothesline is what steven seagal would do.
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
March 22nd, 2020 at 5:50:07 PM
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Do you all know a lot about roller derby too?
March 22nd, 2020 at 6:09:35 PM
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Quote: JohnzimboDo you all know a lot about roller derby too?
Doesn't everyone?
I was in Laughlin ,Nevada about ten years ago and the Bay Area Bombers were doing a reunion show. I was surprised how many young people were on line for autographs and pictures.
In the early 70s, Roller Derby and Wrestling was far more popular in NY than the Knicks and Rangers. Back then, those teams weren't owned by the Garden and their leases called for MSG to be able to change their schedules for wrestling, Roller Derby and the Circus. Knicks had to move some games to the much smaller Lost Battalion Hall.
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The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 7:30:20 PM
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Used to root for the LA T-birds, even went to see a couple derbies. They put on a good show
March 22nd, 2020 at 7:39:49 PM
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Quote: JohnzimboUsed to root for the LA T-birds, even went to see a couple derbies. They put on a good show
In San Francisco, there was a brief period in the early '70s when you could see both the Bombers and the T-Birds on TV. The broadcasts were produced differently; the Bombers games were in hour-long timeslots, with the first half airing one week and the second half airing the following week, while the T-Birds games were in 90-minute timeslots with the third through final (eighth) periods airing.
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:04:20 PM
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I used to be a huge fan of professional wrestling until I saw it live when I was 10 or 11, and couldn't really get into it again. It was so fake, I can't watch it in disbelief. Good story lines were tempting from time to time when I was with my friends and having a good time. To this day, I look down hard on anyone who says they're a fan, assuming they're 10 or less still.
I am a robot.
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:33:01 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleI used to be a huge fan of professional wrestling until I saw it live when I was 10 or 11, and couldn't really get into it again. It was so fake, I can't watch it in disbelief. Good story lines were tempting from time to time when I was with my friends and having a good time. To this day, I look down hard on anyone who says they're a fan, assuming they're 10 or less still.
The mind is like a parachute. Dead weight unless one chooses to open it.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:34:29 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyIn San Francisco, there was a brief period in the early '70s when you could see both the Bombers and the T-Birds on TV. The broadcasts were produced differently; the Bombers games were in hour-long timeslots, with the first half airing one week and the second half airing the following week, while the T-Birds games were in 90-minute timeslots with the third through final (eighth) periods airing.
I don't remember the T-birds. Were they a rival promotion?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:39:14 PM
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Quote: billryanI don't remember the T-birds. Were they a rival promotion?
The team I rooted for was called the Jolters.
It was on Saturday mornings
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:43:10 PM
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Quote: billryanThe mind is like a parachute. Dead weight unless one chooses to open it.
Check the maximum weight tolerance before jumping.
I am a robot.
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:47:24 PM
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I vaguely remember the Jolters. The Chiefs almost always seemed to play either the Bay Area Bombers or the Chicago Pioneers on television. Im sure there must have been other teams.
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March 23rd, 2020 at 4:54:48 AM
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pretty funny............................. 😄
with almost zero sports events happening now, this guy, a rugby announcer, gives sports broadcasting like commentaries about people doing mundane tasks like crossing the street -
who will get to the other side first
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/world/europe/coronavirus-nick-heath-rugby.html
with almost zero sports events happening now, this guy, a rugby announcer, gives sports broadcasting like commentaries about people doing mundane tasks like crossing the street -
who will get to the other side first
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/world/europe/coronavirus-nick-heath-rugby.html
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March 25th, 2020 at 4:53:14 AM
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a shout out to Fleastiff
a few months ago he recommended L-Arginine for my joint pain
I did my due diligence and it got good reviews
I've used and it's helped a lot
thanks a lot dude
a few months ago he recommended L-Arginine for my joint pain
I did my due diligence and it got good reviews
I've used and it's helped a lot
thanks a lot dude
Please don't feed the trolls
March 27th, 2020 at 10:58:10 AM
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Quote: KeeneoneIt is basically a Federal response to ID security after 9/11.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ID_Act
https://www.dhs.gov/real-id
Nevada info:
https://dmvnv.com/realid.htm
Enforcement has been delayed a couple of times to the current the Oct 2020 date.
Real ID enforcement has again been delayed by DHS (new date: October 1, 2021):
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/26/acting-secretary-chad-wolf-statement-real-id-enforcement-deadline
March 27th, 2020 at 2:58:20 PM
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Haven't we been hearing this same song for the last fifteen years?
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March 27th, 2020 at 3:11:15 PM
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Quote: billryanHaven't we been hearing this same song for the last fifteen years?
The latest delay is obviously about the current situation.
I need to transfer a title (for a recent auto purchase) and I was going to go ahead and update my NV DL while there. Of course the DMV is shuttered now (from NV DMV site):
-The Department does not anticipate reopening until April 16 at the earliest.-
I wonder what the DMV experience will be like when it reopens? :)
March 30th, 2020 at 2:05:57 PM
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the wisdom of detective Charlie Chan:
"Waiting for tomorrow waste of today.”
“Mind like parachute - only function when open.”
“Long journey always start with one short step.”
“Optimist only sees doughnut. Pessimist sees hole.”
“Front seldom tell truth. To know occupants of house, always look in backyard.”
“If you want wild bird to sing do not put him in cage.”
“Suspicion often father of truth.”
“Journey of life like feather in stream - must go with current.”
"Madness twin brother of genius because each live in world created by own ego. One sometimes mistaken for the other."
“One grain of luck sometimes worth more than whole rice field of wisdom.”
"Waiting for tomorrow waste of today.”
“Mind like parachute - only function when open.”
“Long journey always start with one short step.”
“Optimist only sees doughnut. Pessimist sees hole.”
“Front seldom tell truth. To know occupants of house, always look in backyard.”
“If you want wild bird to sing do not put him in cage.”
“Suspicion often father of truth.”
“Journey of life like feather in stream - must go with current.”
"Madness twin brother of genius because each live in world created by own ego. One sometimes mistaken for the other."
“One grain of luck sometimes worth more than whole rice field of wisdom.”
Please don't feed the trolls
April 2nd, 2020 at 6:43:26 AM
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Another top fighter has passed on - RIP to the hard hitting and exciting to watch 1960s & 1970s welterweight contender Hedgemon Lewis.
June 1972, Syracuse New York War Memorial Arena, local fighter (and former welterweight champ) Billy Backus squares off with Hedgemon Lewis. Longtime boxing pal Frankie La La and myself were huge Backus fans and would always hang out near the fighter's entry to see Billy Backus, his manager Tony Graziano, and his Uncle Carmine Basilio walk by on their way to the ring and to get a glove touch with Billy Backus. Standing there and leaning with his foot against the wall is this guy who immediately locks eyes with Frankie La La. Frankie says, "what you looking at pretty-boy" (yea - back in the day La La could be a real knucklehead at times). The guy then says, "put your money where your mouth is, $20 says Lewis beats Backus easy". Use of the word "easy" enrages La La and heated words are exchanged between him and the "pretty boy". Security guy says we have to leave the area. We head back to our seats and the ring announcer makes a few introductions prior to the bout. La La and I are amazed to see the "pretty boy" standing center ring. The pretty boy is introduced by the ring announcer as actor Ryan O'Neal and the crowd goes wild. Later on we find out that O'Neal (along with Bill Cosby and a few other Hollywood elites) were backers of Hedgemon Lewis. Lewis ended up beating Billy Backus that night to garner the New York State Athletic Commission Welterweight Title. In a rematch a few months later Lewis beat Backus a second time.
Hedgemon Lewis lost a tough and close decision in a world title bout with legendary Jose Napoles in 1971 - many thought it was a draw. Lewis faced Napoles again a few years later in a second title shot and was stopped by Napoles in the 9th round. Lewis had really tough fights with the likes of Percy Pugh, Adolph Pruitt, Ernie Lopez and Amando Muniz (to name just a few). Hedgemon Lewis was an exciting to watch top welterweight contender, top welter weight contender.
June 1972, Syracuse New York War Memorial Arena, local fighter (and former welterweight champ) Billy Backus squares off with Hedgemon Lewis. Longtime boxing pal Frankie La La and myself were huge Backus fans and would always hang out near the fighter's entry to see Billy Backus, his manager Tony Graziano, and his Uncle Carmine Basilio walk by on their way to the ring and to get a glove touch with Billy Backus. Standing there and leaning with his foot against the wall is this guy who immediately locks eyes with Frankie La La. Frankie says, "what you looking at pretty-boy" (yea - back in the day La La could be a real knucklehead at times). The guy then says, "put your money where your mouth is, $20 says Lewis beats Backus easy". Use of the word "easy" enrages La La and heated words are exchanged between him and the "pretty boy". Security guy says we have to leave the area. We head back to our seats and the ring announcer makes a few introductions prior to the bout. La La and I are amazed to see the "pretty boy" standing center ring. The pretty boy is introduced by the ring announcer as actor Ryan O'Neal and the crowd goes wild. Later on we find out that O'Neal (along with Bill Cosby and a few other Hollywood elites) were backers of Hedgemon Lewis. Lewis ended up beating Billy Backus that night to garner the New York State Athletic Commission Welterweight Title. In a rematch a few months later Lewis beat Backus a second time.
Hedgemon Lewis lost a tough and close decision in a world title bout with legendary Jose Napoles in 1971 - many thought it was a draw. Lewis faced Napoles again a few years later in a second title shot and was stopped by Napoles in the 9th round. Lewis had really tough fights with the likes of Percy Pugh, Adolph Pruitt, Ernie Lopez and Amando Muniz (to name just a few). Hedgemon Lewis was an exciting to watch top welterweight contender, top welter weight contender.
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I 'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
April 5th, 2020 at 3:14:05 PM
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Watching local news and they mention the weather for next WEEKEND. I started thinking, with both me and wifey not working, without sports that are usually only on the weekend, with kids not going to school, with traffic insignificant no matter what the day of the week is.... The concept of a week and a week(end) is blurred. If it wasn't for Friday being garbage day I am not sure I would have any idea what day of the week it is, nor would I. I guess I do cry over my stocks from Monday through Friday, so there is that.....
April 5th, 2020 at 4:28:35 PM
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Yeah, a boring old movie on youtube makes days/nights blur. Soon in response to a question about the time, my response is going to be "April".Quote: SOOPOO... The concept of a week and a week(end) is blurred. ...
April 5th, 2020 at 4:35:33 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffYeah, a boring old movie on youtube makes days/nights blur. Soon in response to a question about the time, my response is going to be "April".
Soon? It's been April for 5 days.... (Teasing)
April 10th, 2020 at 4:22:36 PM
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What day will Az Duffman pass Nareed in top contributors? Or does the counter still operate? Az has been stuck at 11399 for awhile.
April 17th, 2020 at 1:13:08 PM
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https://youtu.be/vTIIMJ9tUc8
Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
April 17th, 2020 at 1:23:19 PM
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PLEASE do not post links with also supplying some textual indication of what on earth we will be getting. in this case: Loud, nonsensical catterwalling.Quote: jjjoooggghttps://youtu.be/vTIIMJ9tUc8
April 17th, 2020 at 6:28:25 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffPLEASE do not post links with also supplying some textual indication of what on earth we will be getting. in this case: Loud, nonsensical catterwalling.
30 seconds into the video is when it gets funny.
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Born in Texas and lived in Texas my whole life.
April 18th, 2020 at 12:09:41 AM
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I was looking into Levis 501 jeans and I found it hard to believe they cost $98. They were female, guess maybe that's the difference. I can see paying $98, but not for Levi's. Surprising. I haven't bought jeans at a department store for 25 years it seems. Think I was picking up old navy a long time or getting them at Walmart, couldn't get myself to pay more than $40 like I remembered getting Levis for. Now I pay $60-$90, but the jeans are worth it, Wranglers keep tearing. I buy Lucky Brand. Not paid for by Lucky lol.
I am a robot.
April 18th, 2020 at 5:14:35 AM
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I get Wranglers at Walmart for less than $20 and they last me forever, never tearing. Not sure why yours are doing that, unless you do the splits daily.
April 18th, 2020 at 6:40:47 AM
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Quote: JohnzimboI get Wranglers at Walmart for less than $20 and they last me forever, never tearing. Not sure why yours are doing that, unless you do the splits daily.
I also buy Wranglers, I don't think I have bought a different brand of jeans in 15 years. I usually buy them on Amazon and they are usually less than $25.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
April 18th, 2020 at 7:06:06 AM
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I buy slight irregulars and rarely pay more than $20-25. It's pretty easy to find irregular Wranglers, not so easy to find Irregular Levi's.
A couple of months ago, I bought two batches of Amazon returns that was mostly men's Jeans. The suggested retail prices were insane. One pair had gold trim around the rear pockets and gold piping down one leg. It looked like a Nursery School art project but had a $249
price tag. Another had ice cream cone patches on the thighs for $199. Yet another had military style patches down both legs and was also $199.
Who wears this nonsense and do I really want to be dealing with " that type"?
A couple of months ago, I bought two batches of Amazon returns that was mostly men's Jeans. The suggested retail prices were insane. One pair had gold trim around the rear pockets and gold piping down one leg. It looked like a Nursery School art project but had a $249
price tag. Another had ice cream cone patches on the thighs for $199. Yet another had military style patches down both legs and was also $199.
Who wears this nonsense and do I really want to be dealing with " that type"?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
