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link please.Quote: EvenBobThere's a movie where a guy
can see 2 min into the future
and he gets caught when he
plays in the casino. It's actually
a pretty good movie.
Quote: rxwineHoudini was impressed with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (writer creator of Sherlock Holmes) until after meeting him and found out he was being taken in by spiritualists.
Houdini was so well-versed in studying various magic tricks that he could catch them faking something and reproduce it himself if need be.
It might be hard to believe, (but probably not if you pay attention around here) Houdini couldn't shake the faith some people had in spiritualists even with his expertise.
Houdini was an escape artist who worked as an entertainer. Why would people care what what he had to say about spiritual matters.
Because he was debunking them and exposing con artists. I would say he was much more than just that.Quote: billryanHoudini was an escape artist who worked as an entertainer. Why would people care what what he had to say about spiritual matters.
That stuff goes goes a lot deeper than someone just paying a few bucks to have their fortune read.
Especially when the fakes are playing with people's desperate emotions over the death of loved ones in order to con them.
Same goes for those evangelists who use things like people's health in order to calm them.
It's all acceptable cuz it's wrapped up in a pretty package.
I don't see the difference between that and Connie people into bed Investments, at least there's a chance of a bad investment turning out good.
I don't know why, but I just thought about the movie Red Lights. I thought that was an interesting movie worth watching.
Quote: jjjooogggI went to a fair. I paid cash to see a psychic. Took a ticket, sat down with psychic who didn’t know my name. Unless he has a hidden facial recognition camera that can tap into my history through Nexis Lexis. He Is the most booked psychic there.
That same psychic gave one name. Not a common name. It was the name of a co worker that was hanging out with my bro before he died. The worker disappeared when my bro died and haven’t seen him since for 25 years. He didn’t go to the funeral. The worker’s file is missing. There are more examples.
Believing that God sends messages to people is just as extraordinary as spirits talking to people.
If he’s a psychic, then why does he just throw a name out there. Why doesn’t he say the name AND say exactly how you know him/her?
Quote: FleaStiff
I am utterly shocked that anyone on a gambling forum would ever seriously embrace the notion of psychic efficacy.
I remember being surprised at the number of people in this forum who didn't understand how polls and simple statistics worked with regards to the 2016 election, so I'm not shocked at all that there are people here who also believe in psychics.
Quote: michael99000If he’s a psychic, then why does he just throw a name out there. Why doesn’t he say the name AND say exactly how you know him/her?
Why would the spirit waste energy and time to tell us what I already know
Quote: jjjooogggWhy would the spirit waste energy and time to tell us what I already know
He’s got no issues with wasting all the time and money you spent to be there. What’s another few minutes ?
Quote: michael99000He’s got no issues with wasting all the time and money you spent to be there. What’s another few minutes ?
To give info that I don’t know.
aQuote: AxelWolfBecause he was debunking them and exposing con artists. I would say he was much more than just that.
That stuff goes goes a lot deeper than someone just paying a few bucks to have their fortune read.
Especially when the fakes are playing with people's desperate emotions over the death of loved ones in order to con them.
Same goes for those evangelists who use things like people's health in order to calm them.
It's all acceptable cuz it's wrapped up in a pretty package.
I don't see the difference between that and Connie people into bed Investments, at least there's a chance of a bad investment turning out good.
I don't know why, but I just thought about the movie Red Lights. I thought that was an interesting movie worth watching.
Houdini exposed a lot of public frauds. He was The Amazing Randi years before Randi. An ancient Chris Angel. If Chris Angel promised he would come back after death, no one would take him seriously. Yet people refer to Houdinis non return as some sort of proof that the supernatural is all a fraud. I don't know if it still goes on, but when I was in High School, thousands of people would congregate at his grave on Halloween.
Quote: TigerWuThere's a video out there of Criss Angel ambushing Uri Gellar
Geller is a good example of an
exposed fraud. He fooled a lot
of people. All psychics are
frauds. As I said, if you could see
the future, or even read minds,
you could make yourself as
rich as Bill Gates, yet none of
them ever do.
This is regarding baseball for an 8 year old. 7/8 is the first year where it is real baseball but with coach pitch. Last year and years past the local area made the league and we had 8 teams that played each other and had playoffs. The head coaches did a draft and we made teams as close to competitive as possible.
This year they are making a change where they are making 3 classes of players A,B, and C and are going to play other area teams that are also ranked the same. This way the good players will play good players, bubble play bubble and bad play bad.
I think it is good because the kids that work hard and are competitive can play others of the same.
The bad players can play bad players and are not in danger of getting hit with a hard throw or big bat.
Wife and my dad think it is bad because club spring ball is about fun and learning and the bad kids may learn from the better kids so they should get to play on a team with them. They already have tournament try out baseball where the good ones can play with good ones.
Thoughts?
Quote: DRichI think it is good because almost everybody will get to play. My experience has always been that the terrible kids always sit in the bench and only get to play at the very end of a game.
That is true except at this age they all play. There is a rule that each kid has to play at least 2 innings in the infield and each kid can only sit out 1 inning. However the bad kids get stuck at catcher and 3rd base. Very few outs are recorded 3rd to 1st at this age. So the bad ones get catcher and 3rd then 4 innings in the outfield and usually right field since most hits are to center and left. Breaking them up will allow the bad kids to play more infield.
My older son is an in between and will likely be on B or C team. He generally will get 3 in and 3 out but will get pitcher and 2nd. He doesnt get first base because his catching isnt strong enough yet but on a B/C team probably could play 1st. My soon to be 6 year old was asked to play up into this new grouping and would likely be on A or B as he is really good and really into the game. Can can through out runners at first from third. Not sure that I would let the younger one play up and be on a better team than his older brother though.
Anyways, I will add to my argument that kids will get to play other positions when playing with like skill levels.
Quote: GWAEI am having a disagreement with my wife and my dad. Curious what other people think.
This is regarding baseball for an 8 year old. 7/8 is the first year where it is real baseball but with coach pitch. Last year and years past the local area made the league and we had 8 teams that played each other and had playoffs. The head coaches did a draft and we made teams as close to competitive as possible.
This year they are making a change where they are making 3 classes of players A,B, and C and are going to play other area teams that are also ranked the same. This way the good players will play good players, bubble play bubble and bad play bad.
I think it is good because the kids that work hard and are competitive can play others of the same.
The bad players can play bad players and are not in danger of getting hit with a hard throw or big bat.
Wife and my dad think it is bad because club spring ball is about fun and learning and the bad kids may learn from the better kids so they should get to play on a team with them. They already have tournament try out baseball where the good ones can play with good ones.
Thoughts?
I think this is a good idea but only until they reach the age where a kid is pitching and not a coach. If the mediocre hitting kids are always grouped with mediocre pitchers, they’ll never improve. And might even get a false sense of being better than they really are.
We can’t have mediocre ability kids feeling too good about themselves.
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With the other competitive league available to the best skilled ones, that tips the balance slightly in favor of have fun and learn together for me. But I could support either side of it, as above.
Quote: MaxPenAre they all going to get a participation trophy at the end?
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I say let the bad kids learn to hit the best fastball from the best player, if he can't hit it buy him a Tutu and skates for his ice dancing career.
Quote: DRich... a Tutu and skates for his ice dancing career.
Still better than baseball.
It HAS to be ABC. These aren't men eeking out the last 0.001% of improvement after a life of honing. They're kids playing a game, an activity that (is supposed to) teaches a lot more than just the mechanics of the game.
And even if you're looking to improve... you don't send the 10min mile guy out to run behind the 5min mile guy. That's not training. That's a very short torture followed by Mr. 10min abandoning the sport. There's maybe three kids a decade who would put up with that treatment over love of the sport. The other 400 are just gonna quit.
Skating with the old salts is where I see the most of my own improvements. They're way better skilled than me, but I'm way better physically than them. They school me always, but it's close, ya know? It's close, so it's competitive, which makes it fun so I don't get disheartened. I just keep on trying and keep getting better. Play with the kids? I don't get better. I just get hurt. So now I don't play. And instead of better I just get fatter.
Quote: MaxPenAre they all going to get a participation trophy at the end?
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I actually dont mind the participation trophy. It does keep the lower tiered kids interested.
Last year in the 7 year old everyone got metals but our team won the championship they all got nice trophies. All other teams got the metals. Next year only 1st gets the trophy and the rest get nothing
Sell kids, problem solved.Quote: GWAECurious what other people think.
Quote: RigondeauxThes days psychics can also Google you if they know your name ahead of time.
Even if not, they could have a partner doing it after you arrive.
How do animals know in advance of an earthquake? Or a tsunami? I'm not saying it's got anything to do with psychic stuff, but I still want to know how they know.
Quote: bobbartopHow do animals know in advance of an earthquake? Or a tsunami? I'm not saying it's got anything to do with psychic stuff, but I still want to know how they know.
Or ants, for that matter, they seem to understand the weather. Of course, they're still too stupid to run away when I'm about to squish them.
It piled all the parts on top of each other, and then fell over from point A onto point B thus achieving the goal.
I'd say it's better than the average restaurant, but it's nowhere near as good as many of the other Hibachi type places I have been to. I think Osaka's much better and they have a lot more choices. And that guy's skill was subpar. I'm going with a B-.Quote: RigondeauxIt's easy to dismiss it because it is a chain, and it is a little bit corny. But Benihannas is some good eatin.
Houdini's grave: His friends pitched the idea to the chief gravedigger who for $35.00 and a bottle of good Bourbon went along with it.
Big difference between playing poker on a steamship and squeezing a mark so bad that he jumps overboard.
Quote: bobbartopHow do animals know in advance of an earthquake? Or a tsunami? I'm not saying it's got anything to do with psychic stuff, but I still want to know how they know.
I thought it was because animals are far more sensitive to noises and vibrations than humans are... probably changes in pressure, too.
Quote: TigerWuI thought it was because animals are far more sensitive to noises and vibrations than humans are... probably changes in pressure, too.
I had a friend who was well regarded in Puerto Rican spiritualism. His Grandmother held a high honor and he had been recognized as having these gifts as a child and had received training in it. He claimed he saw auras around people and could instantly size up a person's character. He'd occasionally warn me about people, but one night he flipped out when a friend of a friend brought a guy to a party. He said the guy had the most evil aura he'd ever encountered and caused a huge scene. About two years later, the guy was arrested for a string of contract killings.
He would say he is more sensitive to vibrations and white noises. If animals can do it, who is to say some humans might not have a similar ability.
A large portion of mankind is color blind, to some extent. The Army told me I was colorblind because I can't see certain tones of brown and green. Why isn't it possible some humans "see" better than the rest.
Quote: AxelWolfI'd say it's better than the average restaurant, but it's nowhere near as good as many of the other Hibachi type places I have been to. I think Osaka's much better and they have a lot more choices. And that guy's skill was subpar. I'm going with a B-.
We go to OhJah about once a month because we like it and it is two blocks from the house.
Quote: billryanA large portion of mankind is color blind, to some extent. The Army told me I was colorblind because I can't see certain tones of brown and green. Why isn't it possible some humans "see" better than the rest.
The problem is not that people claim to have these abilities, it's that they never submit themselves for testing to PROVE these abilities.
If I thought I could "read people's auras" to see if they're evil or whatever, I'd be talking to scientists everyday, going, "okay, let's figure this s*** out; maybe we can use this amazing power to help people and make the world a better place."
When you get the rare person who LEGITIMATELY believes they have some kind of power and willingly succumbs to some kind of testing, their "power" is always disproved.
Even the CIA took a stab at using people with psychic powers during the cold war. I'm sure they wanted it to be true, so we would have a powerful weapon against the Russians. But it seems they gave up on it.
Some people probably have amazing intuition. Subconscious learning has proven to be real. There are most likely people who are exceptionally good at it. I think maybe it's true, women are better than men at this, particularly with people.
I remember an old business partner and friend I had who turned out to be a legitimate, border line psychopath. The fact that he has a family now is scary. I heard through the grapevine that he was cheating on his wife 2 weeks after marrying her. My girlfriend at the time warned me about him almost immediately and I waived it off. But I don't think she was psychic. She was just very good at processing the countless clues we send out with our behavior.
It would be very easy to test your friend. I think if psychic abilities were real, the psychics would want us to know that so we can all benefit from their powers.
Quote: bobbartopDo any of you believe that a mother, can know when her child has died, and they're separated by many miles? Or a sibling, maybe even a twin? I've heard, maybe just an old saying, that they've experimented with rats and maybe killed a baby rat and the mother reacts even though thousands of miles away? I mean, I've never read that before, just heard it and it could be absolutely meaningless.
I've had thoughts about a negative event about a loved one with no evidence. They have never been true. So I don't talk about it; its a big nothing. The trillions of times this has happened to me and you and the other billions of earthlings no one bats an eye. The time it is true..... it must be supernatural?
Take an event like WW2. I'm sure there were millions of mothers that 'knew' something bad happened to their child, bit it didn't. The ones that it did.... attribute it to something otherworldly.
Quote: SOOPOOI've had thoughts about a negative event about a loved one with no evidence. They have never been true. So I don't talk about it; its a big nothing. The trillions of times this has happened to me and you and the other billions of earthlings no one bats an eye. The time it is true..... it must be supernatural?
Take an event like WW2. I'm sure there were millions of mothers that 'knew' something bad happened to their child, bit it didn't. The ones that it did.... attribute it to something otherworldly.
I want to say you're right, SooPoo. Well, you are right. What you say is very logical.
I know there's been times when I had a bad dream, maybe about a parent, and called them just to be sure. Like you said, it was nothing, just a bad dream.
But back to the rats, lol. I want to say I've heard of experiments where they monitor the brain of the mother rat and get a reaction. It's probably nonsense, I don't know where I've heard it. Probably not a reliable source. BUT, if I ever see an article on it, a study or something, I'll be back to post about it. lol
Quote: bobbartopHow do animals know in advance of an earthquake? Or a tsunami? I'm not saying it's got anything to do with psychic stuff, but I still want to know how they know.
You can watch compilations of animals reacting to earthquakes on youtube. While I'd agree they detect early in most cases, it's not much sooner than people. If you need to wake up and get out of the way of your neighbor's piano falling through your ceiling, it might be handy, but most of the time it didn't look like people would have time to get to their door and run outside.
Watch the Indonesian Tsunami videos on youtube: the locals start running, the tourists grab cameras and cell phones to film the spectacle.Quote: rxwinebut most of the time it didn't look like people would have time to get to their door and run outside.
Quote: RigondeauxWhy don't they ever deliver the goods in controlled settings?
Even the CIA took a stab at using people with psychic powers during the cold war. I'm sure they wanted it to be true, so we would have a powerful weapon against the Russians. But it seems they gave up on it.
Some people probably have amazing intuition. Subconscious learning has proven to be real. There are most likely people who are exceptionally good at it. I think maybe it's true, women are better than men at this, particularly with people.
I remember an old business partner and friend I had who turned out to be a legitimate, border line psychopath. The fact that he has a family now is scary. I heard through the grapevine that he was cheating on his wife 2 weeks after marrying her. My girlfriend at the time warned me about him almost immediately and I waived it off. But I don't think she was psychic. She was just very good at processing the countless clues we send out with our behavior.
It would be very easy to test your friend. I think if psychic abilities were real, the psychics would want us to know that so we can all benefit from their powers.
Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.
If you had special abilities, would you use them to help the CIA?
Take your typical 40 year old male and then compare their abilities to Scott Steiner or LeBron James.
An average human male is about 5'8", but many men are a third taller. Some men can run 30% faster than average. A few humans have IQs fifty percent higher than average.Others seem to have lifespans much longer than normal. Why is it impossible for some to sense things the rest of us can't? Science tells us some animals see parts of the spectrum that humans can't.
The man who played The Mountain on Game of Thrones recently won The World's Strongest Man competition and routinely beats three to five men in a tug of war. If different people possess such diverse physical abilities, who can say it's impossible that diverse mental abilities exist.
Quote: billryanAbsence of proof isn't proof of absence.
And that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Quote:If you had special abilities, would you use them to help the CIA?
Heck yeah, I would. That would be a hefty paycheck and a sweet government pension.
Quote:If different people possess such diverse physical abilities, who can say it's impossible that diverse mental abilities exist.
It's not impossible, but genetics, athletes, and geniuses can all be studied and measured scientifically. No one has successfully done the same for mental powers and abilities.
Quote: billryanAbsence of proof isn't proof of absence.
If you had special abilities, would you use them to help the CIA?
Take your typical 40 year old male and then compare their abilities to Scott Steiner or LeBron James.
An average human male is about 5'8", but many men are a third taller. Some men can run 30% faster than average. A few humans have IQs fifty percent higher than average.Others seem to have lifespans much longer than normal. Why is it impossible for some to sense things the rest of us can't? Science tells us some animals see parts of the spectrum that humans can't.
The man who played The Mountain on Game of Thrones recently won The World's Strongest Man competition and routinely beats three to five men in a tug of war. If different people possess such diverse physical abilities, who can say it's impossible that diverse mental abilities exist.
Even if someone has such ability, and even if some people wouldn't reveal it, is there a reason no one has revealed it? As far as I know no one has. Or maybe you have someone in mind?
In all other cases you mentioned we do have at least a few examples.
Quote: bobbartopDo any of you believe that a mother, can know when her child has died, and they're separated by many miles? Or a sibling, maybe even a twin? I've heard, maybe just an old saying, that they've experimented with rats and maybe killed a baby rat and the mother reacts even though thousands of miles away? I mean, I've never read that before, just heard it and it could be absolutely meaningless.
I wasn't very close to my grandmother, mostly just because she was over 100, very senile and lived 2500 miles away. I basically didn't talk to or think of her for a long time.
I got to work one day, opened my car door and immediately knew my grandmother had just died. I even said to myself, "My grandmother just died". Then I thought that's crazy, I'm sure she's just fine.
Found out the next day she had died the day before, but I was never able to find out just what time it was.
Think what you want, but we only know a tiny fraction of what's in the universe and how it works.
Quote: rxwineEven if someone has such ability, and even if some people wouldn't reveal it, is there a reason no one has revealed it? As far as I know no one has. Or maybe you have someone in mind?
In all other cases you mentioned we do have at least a few examples.
There's no way to prove it. But it has happened to me at least 4 times. Might have had the indication from others, but it's a very subtle thing, and I don't know if I missed some.
My closest guess is that a soul departing this plane can cross space and time to touch others they care about as they leave, but it's so slight, unless you're already quiet and receptive, you won't feel them go. I don't think a live soul can call one to them - it's up to the one going by.
I will mention one, because i met him on here. I was not that close to the guy called Perdition, for most of the time I knew him. We got to be better friends the last couple of months he lived.
I felt him go by. He just went thru on a whisper, a flicker. I was reading a book, quietly, no music, not thinking about anybody, and nothing related to him, 1200 miles away.
I messaged him. No answer. Called. No answer. I started asking around our friends, nobody thought anything of it, because he was known to go off the grid. I finally nagged them into a wellness check the next day. And they went over and found him.
From what they could tell, he was gone right about the time I felt him go by, the afternoon before. And I'm not sure how to explain it better than him "going by". Sort of like a cat slides gently past your leg, just a brush. But it wouldn't have mattered even if the guys went over there right away, because he had already gone by.
Done talking about it. Can't prove it. But I will attest to it, it does happen.
Quote: Hullabaloo
Think what you want, but we only know a tiny fraction of what's in the universe and how it works.
I can believe anything. Our very existence is unbelievable, yet we do exist.
I can. In the same way I can tell you that baccarat and roulette systems don't work.Quote: billryanIf different people possess such diverse physical abilities, who can say it's impossible that diverse mental abilities exist.
Quote: MaxPenIf you have ever been in the presence of the death of another you would not doubt that a soul exists.
Do you think everyone who works with dying people feels the presence of souls leaving? I mean, I already know not everyone does. So, I'd have to disagree with that statement.
Also, from personal experience, can't say I have either.
