Miscellaneous Discussion Thread
I know that it ain't over until it's over. On the "uphill" isn't over, or necessarily nearly over. It's truly over when you realize that that was just another part of it, another plateau, or level of mentally adapting. A defense mechanism. When we live with shockingly draining stuff for months, we absolutely forget how we felt before. You will know that you are recovered only when you are recovered, when your head is functioning normally, again.Quote: FaceNo worries. I imagine I probably sound identically ignorant in any weight loss thread. It's hard to get it unless you got it, ya know?
Quote: onenickelmiracleHas this ever happened to you? I tapped a woman on her upper arm with my finger and she acted like I groped her. She shook, gave me a dirty look and was rude. It's not like I had any interest in this woman, I'd say she was universally unattractive. She was young(21-24), God only knows what the snowflake had been brainwashed to believe about such things. I was offended she was offended.
These days, just looking at a female that is walking on the opposite side of the street could be construed as sexual harassment.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHas this ever happened to you? I tapped a woman on her upper arm with my finger and she acted like I groped her. She shook, gave me a dirty look and was rude. It's not like I had any interest in this woman, I'd say she was universally unattractive. She was young(21-24), God only knows what the snowflake had been brainwashed to believe about such things. I was offended she was offended.
Or she has been brutally raped before. You just never know ones situation.
It's theoretically possible, but still not the proper reaction to an innocent person and innocent gestures.Quote: GWAEOr she has been brutally raped before. You just never know ones situation.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHas this ever happened to you? I tapped a woman on her upper arm with my finger and she acted like I groped her. She shook, gave me a dirty look and was rude. It's not like I had any interest in this woman, I'd say she was universally unattractive. She was young(21-24), God only knows what the snowflake had been brainwashed to believe about such things. I was offended she was offended.
That's the reaction of someone who has been beaten or assaulted. Rather than defaulting to "snowflake" looking to take umbrage, I would suggest you not tap on people (strangers) to get their attention. "Excuse me" when they're not looking, or going around to where you make eye contact, then speaking to them, would both work better than poking them.
Sorry, but these days, you're probably the rude one, though I don't recall it ever being polite to touch someone who's not looking at you. (Deliberately, that is - accidental contact should generate a "sorry" or "excuse me", too, but is more easily forgiven.)
It's an aggressive move that breaks into people's personal space. Little kids are forgiven it, but by grade school, it's not done.
What would be the frequency be of a negative reaction from someone you have already recently interacted with? I'd guess about 1/500, not a number I would consider high enough to reach the level of rudeness. I don't exactly remember, but I may have tried speaking with this woman to get her attention before I tapped her with my finger on the arm. It was after all, just a finger, not a penis. Aggressive my @$$, that's total bs. Warning given to you for putting the B in BBB and comparing me to a child.Quote: beachbumbabsThat's the reaction of someone who has been beaten or assaulted. Rather than defaulting to "snowflake" looking to take umbrage, I would suggest you not tap on people (strangers) to get their attention. "Excuse me" when they're not looking, or going around to where you make eye contact, then speaking to them, would both work better than poking them.
Sorry, but these days, you're probably the rude one, though I don't recall it ever being polite to touch someone who's not looking at you. (Deliberately, that is - accidental contact should generate a "sorry" or "excuse me", too, but is more easily forgiven.)
It's an aggressive move that breaks into people's personal space. Little kids are forgiven it, but by grade school, it's not done.
Quote: onenickelmiracleWhat would be the frequency be of a negative reaction from someone you have already recently interacted with? I'd guess about 1/500, not a number I would consider high enough to reach the level of rudeness. I don't exactly remember, but I may have tried speaking with this woman to get her attention before I tapped her with my finger on the arm. It was after all, just a finger, not a penis. Aggressive my @$$, that's total bs. Warning given to you for putting the B in BBB and comparing me to a child.
I can't get out of my head the image of you tapping a strange woman on the shoulder with your penis, and then her freaking out! ( I know... you said arm, but I visualised )
Seriously, were you behind her, or facing her? That might go someway to explaining. Anyone tapping you on your arm from behind might reasonably make you jump out of your skin or freak out if it came was unannounced. If you were facing her, I suppose you tried to get her attention verbally first?
Some ladies carry their bags on their arms and even if she wasn't, she may have been instinctively defensive.
I'd expect a slap if I did what I think you did, especially with a stranger of the opposite sex.
Quote: OnceDearI can't get out of my head the image of you tapping a strange woman on the shoulder with your penis, and then her freaking out! ( I know... you said arm, but I visualised )
Seriously, were you behind her, or facing her? That might go someway to explaining. Anyone tapping you on your arm from behind might reasonably make you jump out of your skin or freak out if it came was unannounced. If you were facing her, I suppose you tried to get her attention verbally first?
Some ladies carry their bags on their arms and even if she wasn't, she may have been instinctively defensive.
I'd expect a slap if I did what I think you did, especially with a stranger of the opposite sex.
just curious, when you visualized this said penis, was this a porn star penis or a don't take your shorts off in gym class penis?
I only got a glance at it $:o) It felt rude to stare.Quote: GWAEjust curious, when you visualized this said penis, was this a porn star penis or a don't take your shorts off in gym class penis?
I guess it was a 'Bloody hell, you nearly had my eye out with that'
Directly perpendicular, no pun intended.Quote: OnceDearI can't get out of my head the image of you tapping a strange woman on the shoulder with your penis, and then her freaking out! ( I know... you said arm, but I visualised )
Seriously, were you behind her, or facing her? That might go someway to explaining. Anyone tapping you on your arm from behind might reasonably make you jump out of your skin or freak out if it came was unannounced. If you were facing her, I suppose you tried to get her attention verbally first?
Some ladies carry their bags on their arms and even if she wasn't, she may have been instinctively defensive.
I'd expect a slap if I did what I think you did, especially with a stranger of the opposite sex.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHas this ever happened to you? I tapped a woman on her upper arm with my finger and she acted like I groped her. She shook, gave me a dirty look and was rude. It's not like I had any interest in this woman, I'd say she was universally unattractive. She was young(21-24), God only knows what the snowflake had been brainwashed to believe about such things. I was offended she was offended.
Maybe you poked her in a spot where she received a shot for a horrible infection of some sort? Upper arm is the usual place for shots.
Quote: onenickelmiracleWhat would be the frequency be of a negative reaction from someone you have already recently interacted with? I'd guess about 1/500, not a number I would consider high enough to reach the level of rudeness. I don't exactly remember, but I may have tried speaking with this woman to get her attention before I tapped her with my finger on the arm. It was after all, just a finger, not a penis. Aggressive my @$$, that's total bs. Warning given to you for putting the B in BBB and comparing me to a child.
You asked. I gave you an honest answer. And was trying to dig into it a little, as it's something I know is socially unacceptable, but hadn't really, consciously thought about why. So much for being helpful.
I certainly did not call you a child; I was trying to visualize situations where this was ok, and the only one I could come up with was a little kid tugging on a stranger's arm or pant leg or something. Anybody older, it would not be welcome.
You want to continue touching strangers and getting negative reactions, good luck with that. As someone else said, you can expect to get slapped at some point.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHas this ever happened to you? I tapped a woman on her upper arm with my finger and she acted like I groped her.
You're just another obvious #metoo candidate.
You got lucky she didn't sue for the permanent
psych damage you caused.
Quote: EvenBobYou're just another obvious #metoo candidate.
You got lucky she didn't sue for the permanent
psych damage you caused.
Is it wrong for women to profile unknown men, any more than it's wrong for police to profile blacks, or border guards to profile people from certain countries?
I will be slapped after ten million years.Quote: beachbumbabsYou asked. I gave you an honest answer. And was trying to dig into it a little, as it's something I know is socially unacceptable, but hadn't really, consciously thought about why. So much for being helpful.
I certainly did not call you a child; I was trying to visualize situations where this was ok, and the only one I could come up with was a little kid tugging on a stranger's arm or pant leg or something. Anybody older, it would not be welcome.
You want to continue touching strangers and getting negative reactions, good luck with that. As someone else said, you can expect to get slapped at some point.
Quote: billryanWhy would you tap a stranger on her arm?
To get to the other side. Why would you tap a stranger on the arm? I touch people all the time, it is just confidence.
Quote: beachbumbabsThat's the reaction of someone who has been beaten or assaulted. Rather than defaulting to "snowflake" looking to take umbrage, I would suggest you not tap on people (strangers) to get their attention. "Excuse me" when they're not looking, or going around to where you make eye contact, then speaking to them, would both work better than poking them.
Sorry, but these days, you're probably the rude one, though I don't recall it ever being polite to touch someone who's not looking at you. (Deliberately, that is - accidental contact should generate a "sorry" or "excuse me", too, but is more easily forgiven.)
It's an aggressive move that breaks into people's personal space. Little kids are forgiven it, but by grade school, it's not done.
I have to agree with babs here. These days you just don’t make physical contact with strangers in any way.
Quote: FaceIt did help me hatch and rear ~8,000 tadpoles. And then they cleaned the entire thing spotless and quadrupled in size in the span of 3 days while I did nothing but sit and watch.
Frogs: bah!
Our house has a waterfall and pond in the back yard; some nearby neighbors think it's cool to have frogs around, so they coddle the little critters, emboldening them to explore.
Once they reach our pond they die.
My wife and I listen nightly for the "ribbit ribbit" of croaking frogs: it's our call to action.
We grab flashlights, a pool skimmer and a flat shovel and go hunting.
We get them to enter the water and then it's game over: scoop them up with the skimmer net, flick them artfully out of the pond and onto the lawn, then WHAM with the working end of the shovel.
Just bagged one ten minutes ago.
The family that slays together stays together.
Why?Quote: MrVFrogs: bah!
Our house has a waterfall and pond in the back yard; some nearby neighbors think it's cool to have frogs around, so they coddle the little critters, emboldening them to explore.
Once they reach our pond they die.
My wife and I listen nightly for the "ribbit ribbit" of croaking frogs: it's our call to action.
We grab flashlights, a pool skimmer and a flat shovel and go hunting.
We get them to enter the water and then it's game over: scoop them up with the skimmer net, flick them artfully out of the pond and onto the lawn, then WHAM with the working end of the shovel.
Just bagged one ten minutes ago.
The family that slays together stays together.
Quote: MrVFrogs: bah!
Our house has a waterfall and pond in the back yard; some nearby neighbors think it's cool to have frogs around, so they coddle the little critters, emboldening them to explore.
Once they reach our pond they die.
My wife and I listen nightly for the "ribbit ribbit" of croaking frogs: it's our call to action.
We grab flashlights, a pool skimmer and a flat shovel and go hunting.
We get them to enter the water and then it's game over: scoop them up with the skimmer net, flick them artfully out of the pond and onto the lawn, then WHAM with the working end of the shovel.
Just bagged one ten minutes ago.
The family that slays together stays together.
Is this a joke
Quote: MrVFrogs: bah!
Our house has a waterfall and pond in the back yard; some nearby neighbors think it's cool to have frogs around, so they coddle the little critters, emboldening them to explore.
Once they reach our pond they die.
My wife and I listen nightly for the "ribbit ribbit" of croaking frogs: it's our call to action.
We grab flashlights, a pool skimmer and a flat shovel and go hunting.
We get them to enter the water and then it's game over: scoop them up with the skimmer net, flick them artfully out of the pond and onto the lawn, then WHAM with the working end of the shovel.
Just bagged one ten minutes ago.
The family that slays together stays together.
Explains a lot.
No sense posting "Keep out," is there?
Two reasons we whack those damned amphibians.
One, they breed freely and the pond would quickly fill with unwanted frogs: no thank you.
Two, they croak loudly at night, loud enough to keep us awake.
You frog lovers have a problem with it?
Too bad.
My house, my rules.
Maybe if you had a fence around the edge of the pond, the frogs would just all drown.Quote: MrVI don't want frogs on my property.
No sense posting "Keep out," is there?
Two reasons we whack those damned amphibians.
One, they breed freely and the pond would quickly fill with unwanted frogs: no thank you.
Two, they croak loudly at night, loud enough to keep us awake.
You frog lovers have a problem with it?
Too bad.
My house, my rules.
Quote: MrVI don't want frogs on my property.
No sense posting "Keep out," is there?
Two reasons we whack those damned amphibians.
One, they breed freely and the pond would quickly fill with unwanted frogs: no thank you.
Two, they croak loudly at night, loud enough to keep us awake.
You frog lovers have a problem with it?
Too bad.
My house, my rules.
I can only hope that at some point you get attacked and horribly injured by any kind of animal
Killing small frogs is no different than swatting mosquitoes.
Quote: michael99000I can only hope that at some point you get attacked and horribly injured by any kind of animal
And I can only hope to run across you festooned in a frog costume in my back yard on Halloween.
Quote: MrVAnd I can only hope to run across you festooned in a frog costume in my back yard on Halloween.
So we can't insult members but we can threaten them?
Quote: MrVAnd I can only hope to run across you festooned in a frog costume in my back yard on Halloween.
I would love for that to happen. Definitely would make it tougher on you than the frogs are able to
I'm a moderate on the shoulder touch. There are situations where i would do it, like in a very loud environment. Or when applying chloroform.
I'm not going to put my hands on a woman i don't know very often though.
It's more ok to do it to a man but you never know when you'll get a combative one.
It's ok for a woman to do it to a man.
Quote: MrVLOL
Killing small frogs is no different than swatting mosquitoes.
Now you've gone too far. Who doesn't love blood sucking insects?
You might be missing an opportunity though.
http://www.toadfactory.com/frog-skin-leather.htm
#Frogapocalypse
Rigondeaux, is that French for roofies only, no touchie armie.Quote: RigondeauxAs long as he doesn't find out where mr. V lives and enter his pond disguised as a frog, i don't think it's much of a threat.
I'm a moderate on the shoulder touch. There are situations where i would do it, like in a very loud environment. Or when applying chloroform.
I'm not going to put my hands on a woman i don't know very often though.
It's more ok to do it to a man but you never know when you'll get a combative one.
It's ok for a woman to do it to a man.
I'm with you all the way on this. NY makes it harassment in the fourth degree, I think.Quote: beachbumbabsThat's the reaction of someone who has been beaten or assaulted. Rather than defaulting to "snowflake" looking to take umbrage, I would suggest you not tap on people (strangers) to get their attention. "Excuse me" when they're not looking, or going around to where you make eye contact, then speaking to them, would both work better than poking them.
Sorry, but these days, you're probably the rude one, though I don't recall it ever being polite to touch someone who's not looking at you. (Deliberately, that is - accidental contact should generate a "sorry" or "excuse me", too, but is more easily forgiven.)
It's an aggressive move that breaks into people's personal space. Little kids are forgiven it, but by grade school, it's not done.
People often have sensitivities to particular acts. Cocktail Doll, a blogging waitress at New York, New York of some years ago, used to tell off men who touched her when they wanted to order a drink. And telling off a player who just left the High Roller room of a casino is usually a serious matter in a casino.
People do wander about a casino 'in their own little world' thinking about booze, how much money they've lost, whatever. Sometimes its hard to break into their reverie and communicate something important to them.
I pee standing up, it's illegal in Sweden.Quote: FleaStiffI'm with you all the way on this. NY makes it harassment in the fourth degree, I think.
People often have sensitivities to particular acts. Cocktail Doll, a blogging waitress at New York, New York of some years ago, used to tell off men who touched her when they wanted to order a drink. And telling off a player who just left the High Roller room of a casino is usually a serious matter in a casino.
People do wander about a casino 'in their own little world' thinking about booze, how much money they've lost, whatever. Sometimes its hard to break into their reverie and communicate something important to them.
Quote: billryanSo we can't insult members but we can threaten them?
What he posted about the frogs
was truly disgusting. Wear hearing
dampeners at night if they're so
loud. Killing for the
reason he gives is pathological.
Quote: EvenBobWear hearing
dampeners at night if they're so
loud. Killing for the
reason he gives is pathological.
Spin it however you want.
I paid serious coin for this house and I'll be damned if I'll let some horny amphibians with wanderlust affect my use and enjoyment of my home.
Gosh, I just paid an exterminator to get rid of an ant problem; are you saying the exterminator acted pathologically as well?
LOL
You think you're so smart, so tell me where and how do you think we should draw the line in America today between "good" killing and "bad" killing?
It's OK to kill bugs but not frogs?
What about creatures whose size falls in between the two, should they get a bye?
You draw the line where you see fit and I'll do it my way.
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"He that would live in peace and ease must not speak all he knows nor judge all he sees."
----- Ben Franklin
Death, itself, is never okay. In fact, it's bad. Something has to be bad, it's not all good.Quote: MrVIt's OK to kill bugs but not frogs?
Life itself is a quotation. Jorge Luis BorgesQuote: MrV"He that would live in peace and ease must not speak all he knows nor judge all he sees."
----- Ben Franklin
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation. Oscar Wilde
Quote: MrVFrogs: bah!
Nope. Tadpoles. Food source, none of them reach metamorphosis, to your glee. Of the 8,000, only the ~30 or so hiding in the gravel are alive today. The other 7,970 of them were consumed within just 2 days >< Plus they're toads. No big whumps, just a gentle, warbling "ggrreeee".
Quote: EvenBobWhat he posted about the frogs
was truly disgusting. Wear hearing
dampeners at night if they're so
loud. Killing for the
reason he gives is pathological.
To quote MrV - Pah!
I would suggest to V to go hook himself a nice pumpkinseed or bluegill, which I know he has out there and can be caught easily just about anywhere with just about any equipment in 10sec or less. They, or "it" as even one will do the trick, will decimate every single 'pole that happens upon his aquatic wunderland, and will incessantly harass any laying frog or toad to the point they won't stay. Once he sees how effective and hands off a solution this is, and comes to appreciate the stunning beauty (especially pumpkinseed*), I might add a largemouth (also easily obtained) which will consume literally anything that enters his land of solitude, including every single adult frog or toad, with instant and immediate prejudice. I typically house ~4 leopards every year for the entire warm season, but thanks to my largemouth's maturation, they all gone. ALL.
But seeing as he probably won't, and I cannot convince him how completely awesome frogs and toads are, the shovel's about as good as it gets. I am sick to death of suburbanites poisoning their way to their idiotic idea of perfection. Poison to kill frogs, poison to kill ants, poison to kill bees, poison to kill f#$%ing dandylions, poison to kill spiders, poison to kill squirrels, poison to kill woodchucks,.... I strongly disagree with MrV's opinion; frogs are awesome and nature should always be** encouraged and protected. But if it needs to go, then there's no better way than instant and decisive physical trauma.
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Except poison ivy. And peas.
Quote: EvenBobYears ago I worked a suicide hotline for 4
months.
I cannot imagine being suicidal, making an impulsive call for help and having the phone be answered by EvenBob.
Yet, in a way, you and the rest of us are still here voluntarily talking to him, the guy who used to work a suicide hotline. Something about Bob?Quote: gordonm888I cannot imagine being suicidal, making an impulsive call for help and having the phone be answered by EvenBob.
... Or us?
Quote: 1MatterToMotionYet, in a way, you and the rest of us are still here voluntarily talking to him, the guy who used to work a suicide hotline. Something about Bob?
Who dis?
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Frogs are awesome. I like frogs.
Quote: 1MatterToMotionYet, in a way, you and the rest of us are still here voluntarily talking to him, the guy who used to work a suicide hotline. Something about Bob?
... Or us?
EvenBob, has said recently he doesn't care about what other people post because he only cares about what he has to say. That just seems like an odd choice of person to put on a suicide hotline.
But EvenBob is bright and occasionally interesting/provocative so of course sometimes I do talk to him, but I certainly don't come to WOV specifically to talk to Bob.
Surfing WOV forums is like birdwatching, and I've already checked the EvenBob species box on my lifetime list of birds. Now if I could only get the elusive Nathan to speak to me instead of talking to herself.
Thanks for your responses. Enjoyable. I like how you always try to add something new, or tie up loose ends.Quote: gordonm888Surfing WOV forums is like birdwatching, and I've already checked the EvenBob species box on my lifetime list of birds. Now if I could only get the elusive Nathan to speak to me instead of talking to herself.
Part of the fascination, eventually, if we are doing it right, has to be that as one "bird" becomes (more) understood, we move on to the next, and then the next. Just as we become really good at one thing, whether because of us or something else, it is gone. Poof! The old questions no longer hold the same meaning or energy, if any at all, as when we first asked them.
It's something about stereovision -- basically where you try to look "beyond" a picture, do some weird gypsy eye-sorcery, then you can see hidden messages n stuff.
WARNING: The video is posted by Vox, so tread with care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8O8Em_RPNg
I think I'm doing it right, but my eyes are just broken. I need to use my thumb to block out the red dots kinda so that I can see all "3 dots", but as soon as I take my thumb away, it goes straight back to 2 dots. And on like maybe 1 occasion, the dots stayed there....but when I shifted my eyes down to the picture, my eyes broke again and the "three" dots turnt back into 2 dots. :(
Halp?
I seem to recall that for me it was almost like crossing my eyes, but not quite and you don't really stare at it, but as you said "beyond" it. Sometimes it would take a minute or more, sometimes it would pop up in a few seconds. I don't know for sure, but I suspect putting your thumb over it would make it harder.
I also did it with real paper ones, not online. I have no idea if that makes a difference or not. I'll give it a try and see if I have any success.
Some are easier to see than others too, and I think there were some I was never able to get. So if one isn't working, try another.
Quote: FaceI would suggest to V to go hook himself a nice pumpkinseed or bluegill, which I know he has out there and can be caught easily just about anywhere with just about any equipment in 10sec or less. They, or "it" as even one will do the trick, will decimate every single 'pole that happens upon his aquatic wunderland, and will incessantly harass any laying frog or toad to the point they won't stay.
I'd considered that but then remembered the problem a friend of mine had when he put fish in his pond.
Seems they kept disappearing (no, not walking catfish).
Come to find out birds eyed the fish while flying overhead then swooped down for a bit of sushi.
He wound up covering the pond with a net, which for me would be aesthetically unpleasing.
I will not use poison: birds use the upper pool of the waterfall to bathe (birds rock; frogs not so much).
Thanks for the constructive suggestion.
Quote: lilredroostertoday I asked the McDonalds Manager if there was a higher grade of meat in their Quarter pounders
a couple of days ago I was at a luncheon buffet at Crave restaurant and they served sliders. it was way, way, better than any burger at MickeyDees. I had forgotten how good a burger could be when the meat is really high quality. they only sell sliders during happy hour but I'm going to buy their regular burger with fries which sells for $12.99. that's a little bit high for me for an ordinary meal but I'm expecting it to be a larger burger that I can split in 2 and get 2 meals out of.
