Miscellaneous Discussion Thread
September 6th, 2017 at 12:14:43 AM
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My son just moved to PR. He was to start a new job on Thursday, a one year teaching assignment. He and his girlfriend flew out today, catching a flight to Orlando.
Luckily, all their furniture isn't there yet.
Luckily, all their furniture isn't there yet.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
September 6th, 2017 at 12:31:56 AM
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So, yesterday I decided I'm going to learn how to type on a DVORAK keyboard (cuz, well, why not?). I didn't think it'd be as frustrating as it actually is, but after about half an hour of practice, I'm up to a steady 10 WPM...although I do sorta cheat and have a picture of a DVORAK keyboard on-screen for when I get stuck and forget where a key is [but I don't look at it unless I get stuck]. My news years resolution (Okay, I'm about 9 months late on this) is to get to 60 WPM by the end of the year.
September 6th, 2017 at 6:57:30 AM
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Quote: RSSo, yesterday I decided I'm going to learn how to type on a DVORAK keyboard (cuz, well, why not?). I didn't think it'd be as frustrating as it actually is, but after about half an hour of practice, I'm up to a steady 10 WPM...although I do sorta cheat and have a picture of a DVORAK keyboard on-screen for when I get stuck and forget where a key is [but I don't look at it unless I get stuck]. My news years resolution (Okay, I'm about 9 months late on this) is to get to 60 WPM by the end of the year.
I tried it about 20 years ago and gave up after a couple of days.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
September 6th, 2017 at 7:28:35 AM
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Auttomatic, the people that created Wordpress, will give their employees a bonus if they switch to a Dvorak keyboard because apparently they are much more efficient once you get used to typing on them.
Personally I'd never do it because I use so many other devices with a QWERTY bolted on.
Personally I'd never do it because I use so many other devices with a QWERTY bolted on.
September 6th, 2017 at 11:22:16 AM
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Most operating systems have a "secret" hot key combo that if held down for eight seconds will convert a QWERTY keyboard to a DVorak one. Just remember to put it back to qwerty when you finish with it.Quote: gamerfreakPersonally I'd never do it because I use so many other devices with a QWERTY bolted on.
Some areas in Puerto Rico will be without power for six months.
All stores around me have signs up "No Water". I've got 'bout two gallons. No beer. Gonna be rough.
September 6th, 2017 at 11:41:23 AM
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Latest paths show it heading to the east coast of Florida like Matthew did last year. I had a friend in Cocoa Beach during that hurricane where the eye missed them by about 50 miles and hurricane level winds didn't hit there. It might miss and slam into South Carolina again.
But it's still early. NWS is putting up extra baloons to make an accurate determination of how the wind interactions will affect Irma later in the week.
But it's still early. NWS is putting up extra baloons to make an accurate determination of how the wind interactions will affect Irma later in the week.
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September 6th, 2017 at 1:26:11 PM
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Looks like Irma is going to only graze Puerto Rico as has taken a decidedly turn more towards the northwest in the last couple of hours. That means gale-force winds for most of the northward part of the island. Look like it will only graze Hispaniola and Cuba too before it figures out when to track north.
That's good. I just contributed some money towards Harvey and my company matched it.
Hopefully people will budget for Irma too if it hits. There are at least five Caribbean Islands that were directly hit: Barbuda, Tortola, Anguilla, Saint-Martin (actually two countries on the same island), and St. Barts.... all playgrounds for the rich (but its residents are still quite poor).
That's good. I just contributed some money towards Harvey and my company matched it.
Hopefully people will budget for Irma too if it hits. There are at least five Caribbean Islands that were directly hit: Barbuda, Tortola, Anguilla, Saint-Martin (actually two countries on the same island), and St. Barts.... all playgrounds for the rich (but its residents are still quite poor).
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September 7th, 2017 at 1:55:18 AM
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Just watched the family guy episode where stewie is teething and I realized something very creepy.....babies don't have teeth.
September 7th, 2017 at 2:16:12 AM
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Don't see the creepiness about it.Quote: RSJust watched the family guy episode where stewie is teething and I realized something very creepy.....babies don't have teeth.
I am a robot.
September 7th, 2017 at 6:22:04 AM
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Well, it's official: Jim Cantore just said Irma's going to hit the center of my county; for thoae who dont know, he's the Weather Channel legend who's always in the middle of the really bad storms. Stocked up on water, filled the gas tank, pulled out batteries and the Bullet (grill ), and making a pee pad for the dogs in the garage.
Roads are gridlocked, accidents everywhere, water is gone, people are freaking out at the pictures of devastation. We're sheltering in place, and will let you know if we have pwer, how it goes. Thanks for the good wishes.
Roads are gridlocked, accidents everywhere, water is gone, people are freaking out at the pictures of devastation. We're sheltering in place, and will let you know if we have pwer, how it goes. Thanks for the good wishes.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 6:41:18 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabs
Roads are gridlocked, accidents everywhere, water is gone, people are freaking out at the pictures of devastation. We're sheltering in place, and will let you know if we have pwer, how it goes. Thanks for the good wishes.
Good luck Babs, what made you decide to ride it out at home as opposed to evacuating? My parents are on the Gulf side and decided to evacuate.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
September 7th, 2017 at 7:08:03 AM
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Quote: DRichGood luck Babs, what made you decide to ride it out at home as opposed to evacuating? My parents are on the Gulf side and decided to evacuate.
Could not get my mom to travel. Finally threatened to knock her unconscious and load her up, didn't work. The dogs are most disappointed.
Mandatory evacuation starts tomorrow. We're 1 block inland from the edge of the zone (both houses) and have some elevation, so we won't be forced out, at least for now. But about 200k people live in Zone A in our county, so it's best we stay out of their way.
Her house has been re-roofed and hardened to current code. Mine has not. So I expect to shelter there.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 7:19:24 AM
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Quote: RSJust watched the family guy episode where stewie is teething and I realized something very creepy.....babies don't have teeth.
....or walk, talk, try to murder their mothers, etc.....
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September 7th, 2017 at 7:22:52 AM
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You can't harden against a Cat 5. If you are in the path of the eye or eyewall you are screwed. Write your SSN on your arm in black marker. You should evacuate.
September 7th, 2017 at 7:25:23 AM
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Quote: MaxPen....You should evacuate.
Nobody should ever live in these disaster areas.
#nosympathy
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September 7th, 2017 at 7:46:03 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsHer house has been re-roofed and hardened to current code. Mine has not. So I expect to shelter there.
You should probably take some current photos or video of your home if it's not been done in a while or needs updating.
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September 7th, 2017 at 7:57:32 AM
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I wonder how many Floridians who live in low-lying areas are even now trying to acquire "flood insurance?"
BBB, you're really gambling now, and for the highest of stakes.
The odds are that you will probably not experience a direct hit, but if you do, good luck to you and your stubborn mother.
BBB, you're really gambling now, and for the highest of stakes.
The odds are that you will probably not experience a direct hit, but if you do, good luck to you and your stubborn mother.
"What, me worry?"
September 7th, 2017 at 8:19:11 AM
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As you probably aware, none of the forecast models are converging as to when Irma is going to make the turn northwards. All of the models inputs are different, so at this point they are not sure whether the hurricane will hit west coast, east coast, or go out over water.
The 11am update (8am PT) is forcing the NHC to pick a model and they are picking the one with the most consistent results so far for this hurricane. I think it's a bit dangerous.
Nonetheless Florida is in danger, and one can only hope that the land interactions with Cuba and Hispaniola weaken it somewhat before it can repower itself back to a Cat 5.
You do not want to be living on the coast and be in that eyewall.
Let us know how it goes.
The 11am update (8am PT) is forcing the NHC to pick a model and they are picking the one with the most consistent results so far for this hurricane. I think it's a bit dangerous.
Nonetheless Florida is in danger, and one can only hope that the land interactions with Cuba and Hispaniola weaken it somewhat before it can repower itself back to a Cat 5.
You do not want to be living on the coast and be in that eyewall.
Let us know how it goes.
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September 7th, 2017 at 8:25:31 AM
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Quote: MaxPenYou can't harden against a Cat 5. If you are in the path of the eye or eyewall you are screwed. Write your SSN on your arm in black marker. You should evacuate.
I would strongly encourage her to evacuate as well despite the traffic and get out of there, but I wouldn't go so far to say that she will die. However, if Florida does get a direct hit, it will be weeks before any services return. Weeks.
I would have about a 45 day supply of food and water in this one, about 5 bottles of propane (100L) and a weapon to depend oneself depending on how urban she is.
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September 7th, 2017 at 9:46:18 AM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesNobody should ever live in these disaster areas.
#nosympathy
I expected no less from you, so was not looking for any.
So, nobody should live in Texas (Harvey) Florida ,
Mississippi, Alabama (hurricanes) Georgia (ditto) South Carolina (ditto) North Carolina (ditto) California, Montana, Washington, Oregon (earthquakes and wildfire), Louisiana, Mississippi (again), (River flood plain), Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri (tornado alley), or anywhere up north where it blizzards(too many to list).
Life is an adventure. America is still a challenge.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 9:49:29 AM
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Quote: MaxPenYou can't harden against a Cat 5. If you are in the path of the eye or eyewall you are screwed. Write your SSN on your arm in black marker. You should evacuate.
Yeah, I think so too. But we'll see. They think it will be down to Cat 3 or 2 by the time we get it. Should be survivable. Miami/Lauderdale are in much worse trouble.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 10:04:19 AM
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Not sure how far north you are, Babs, but a cold (cool?) front rolled through Jacksonville last night. It was a pleasant surprise when I stepped outside this morning to find it cool and not humid. Hopefully this high pressure will push Irma off to the east. Stay safe!
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September 7th, 2017 at 10:38:57 AM
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If power goes out for a few days, without a generator or something no way to charge anything. Electronics die. Computers, phones?
When I lived with a septic tanks system in S. Florida, heavy rains would put that out of commission.
When I lived with a septic tanks system in S. Florida, heavy rains would put that out of commission.
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September 7th, 2017 at 1:39:16 PM
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Tell her to pack up for the casino and slip her a mickey. When she wakes up at Cherokee, feel no guilt as you never told her which casino.
I've felt 180. It's not a sustainable thing. There is nothing you can do when in it; you'd not be able to use your hand to shield your face, even. And should anything larger than an apple seed hit you, it's drawing blood. Even 150 is so bad that you cannot see, as the air pulls your face around the back of your head.
I've not had a Ten Day Feast in... 28 years. Don't f#$% up my record.
PS - As someone with a penchant for waving his d#$% in Death's face, a part of me is smiling bigly =D
PPS - But the rest of me wants to shake you like a 3yr old can of Krylon.
I expect a trip report.
I've felt 180. It's not a sustainable thing. There is nothing you can do when in it; you'd not be able to use your hand to shield your face, even. And should anything larger than an apple seed hit you, it's drawing blood. Even 150 is so bad that you cannot see, as the air pulls your face around the back of your head.
I've not had a Ten Day Feast in... 28 years. Don't f#$% up my record.
PS - As someone with a penchant for waving his d#$% in Death's face, a part of me is smiling bigly =D
PPS - But the rest of me wants to shake you like a 3yr old can of Krylon.
I expect a trip report.
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September 7th, 2017 at 1:53:52 PM
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Quote: FaceTell her to pack up for the casino and slip her a mickey. When she wakes up at Cherokee, feel no guilt as you never told her which casino.
I've felt 180. It's not a sustainable thing. There is nothing you can do when in it; you'd not be able to use your hand to shield your face, even. And should anything larger than an apple seed hit you, it's drawing blood. Even 150 is so bad that you cannot see, as the air pulls your face around the back of your head.
I've not had a Ten Day Feast in... 28 years. Don't f#$% up my record.
PS - As someone with a penchant for waving his d#$% in Death's face, a part of me is smiling bigly =D
PPS - But the rest of me wants to shake you like a 3yr old can of Krylon.
I expect a trip report.
I'm honored to be family. Back atcha.
Wilco on the trip report.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 2:04:28 PM
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Quote: FaceTell her to pack up for the casino and slip her a mickey. When she wakes up at Cherokee, feel no guilt as you never told her which casino.
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This worked on every other episode of the A Team, so I say try this.
If not, best of luck.
September 7th, 2017 at 2:22:18 PM
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Quote: JoemanNot sure how far north you are, Babs, but a cold (cool?) front rolled through Jacksonville last night. It was a pleasant surprise when I stepped outside this morning to find it cool and not humid. Hopefully this high pressure will push Irma off to the east. Stay safe!
You, too, Joeman. I'm about 200 miles south of you. Jax isn't out of it either.
I expect one of 3 things to happen, in order of likelihood :
1. Miami and Ft Lauderdale get creamed, then the center moves north, passes just offshore of us, somewhat creams a Carolina. We get a good blow, but are on the weak side of the storm, and take minor damage, maybe a day without power.
2. It goes in just south of Miami before turning north, runs the spine of Florida, expending energy in the 'Glades and over land before reaching us. Worse, because it brings the eye over or west of us, though it will have burned a lot of energy over land. Some significant damage, probably at least Cat 2 reaching here. This one would also hit Jax.
3. West into the Gulf of Mexico before turning north. This will hurt Tampa etc, and may hurt us as it pushes north-northeast. This is the path Charlie took in 2004, and we got clobbered 60 miles north of here.
Not to mention a growing threat from Jose, following several days behind, already 105mph and growing.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 2:47:07 PM
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bbb (and all),
I just saw Irma Advisory 35 (5pm ET today) and -- compared to Advisory 34 (11am) -- NWS has adjusted the storm track slightly west so it climbs up the spine of the Florida peninsula. Advisory 34 showed Irma moving east of Jacksonville (over the ocean).
IMHO, this is not good news...
I just saw Irma Advisory 35 (5pm ET today) and -- compared to Advisory 34 (11am) -- NWS has adjusted the storm track slightly west so it climbs up the spine of the Florida peninsula. Advisory 34 showed Irma moving east of Jacksonville (over the ocean).
IMHO, this is not good news...
September 7th, 2017 at 4:08:14 PM
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Be safe Babs. I urge you to evacuate but if you stay please be safe. Thinking of you and others in the line of fire.
You can shear a sheep a hundred times, but you can skin it only once. — Amarillo Slim Preston
September 7th, 2017 at 4:24:39 PM
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I'm in a place with a roof that barely withstands a good hard stare. Got 3 gallons of water, some milk and OJ that will only be good if the power stays on. No generator. No chance to evacuate (four feral cats and a vehicle that barely makes it downhill without over heating). Worst thing is No Booze in the place, but I do have some Frappachinos that should knock me out if I lose airconditioning and need to sleep. Lost my standby oxygen tank about a month ago and my oxygen generator as well. Homes in area are largely surrounded by lakes already.
September 7th, 2017 at 4:39:01 PM
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At this point, everyone in Florida should be getting out (by the end of night tonight) or be hunkering down (by Saturday morning). Flea, I don't know where you live but you need alot more water. If you have to, clean out your bathtub, add some drops bleach or iodine (a few drops per quart) and drink. I assume you have pots and pans, fill those with water too and head upstairs. Don't go with your bottled water until you use up the tap water first. If you have a dishwasher, empty it and put all of your valuables in there. It's waterproof and likely attached to plumbing and won't go anywhere.
I don't think it will hit as Cat 5 either, but I think the west coast scenario is getting less likely. Thing is, with an eye 25 miles wide and an eyewall about 75 miles wide, the odds of you getting hit by the eyewall unless it goes well offshore is damned high. Matthew missed, barely.
The thing is a bloody monster.
I don't think it will hit as Cat 5 either, but I think the west coast scenario is getting less likely. Thing is, with an eye 25 miles wide and an eyewall about 75 miles wide, the odds of you getting hit by the eyewall unless it goes well offshore is damned high. Matthew missed, barely.
The thing is a bloody monster.
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September 7th, 2017 at 4:41:30 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsNot to mention a growing threat from Jose, following several days behind
"Jose?"
Damn it, when will Trump build that dang wall he's always yapping about?
"What, me worry?"
September 7th, 2017 at 5:04:40 PM
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Pots and Pans? I got a microwave and an oven, what would I need pots and pans for?
Tap water? Poisonous. I don't even like to shower in it. Don't feed it to cats either. Don't make coffee with it.
It was bad before that attempted murder incident but after all those chemicals its hopeless.
No bathtub.
Treied three stores for water. No luck.
I'm several miles inland from Gulf coast.
About thirty minutes NW of Immokalee and about two hours south of Tampa.
Tap water? Poisonous. I don't even like to shower in it. Don't feed it to cats either. Don't make coffee with it.
It was bad before that attempted murder incident but after all those chemicals its hopeless.
No bathtub.
Treied three stores for water. No luck.
I'm several miles inland from Gulf coast.
About thirty minutes NW of Immokalee and about two hours south of Tampa.
September 7th, 2017 at 5:39:38 PM
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You can boil water now in the microwave to purify it. And put it into whatever you use in the oven to cook with - baking pans, muffin tins, whatever. 3 gallons will not be enough.
Hell, just collect the rain water when it starts to pour. There will be enough of it.
Seriously, you're in for it. And them cats are feral. Get out of there.
Hell, just collect the rain water when it starts to pour. There will be enough of it.
Seriously, you're in for it. And them cats are feral. Get out of there.
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September 7th, 2017 at 5:40:12 PM
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Quote: MrV"Jose?"
Damn it, when will Trump build that dang wall he's always yapping about?
Jose will miss the continental US...
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September 7th, 2017 at 6:01:44 PM
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I saw a YouTube video a while back and this guy was saying stop making hurricanes regular people names that aren't scary, but something like "Hell death megatron mother f***er kill machine" so people evacuate.
If y'all aren't evacuating, be safe out there.
If y'all aren't evacuating, be safe out there.
September 7th, 2017 at 7:02:58 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffPots and Pans? I got a microwave and an oven, what would I need pots and pans for?
Tap water? Poisonous. I don't even like to shower in it. Don't feed it to cats either. Don't make coffee with it.
It was bad before that attempted murder incident but after all those chemicals its hopeless.
No bathtub.
Treied three stores for water. No luck.
I'm several miles inland from Gulf coast.
About thirty minutes NW of Immokalee and about two hours south of Tampa.
Cats will usually do okay, even if they get lost. If things are in one piece at the end of the storm -- you put out clothes you've worn recently and if they're in the area they'll probably find you. They might need something to float on. YOU might need something to float on.
There are suppose to be services to pick you up if you can't get to a local shelter. But they won't do it once the storm starts.
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September 7th, 2017 at 7:40:36 PM
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I'm at 109 bpm now so the start of the storm may be irrelevant. The cats don't get close enough to me to get my scent. I drew one spare pail of water and it exhausted me, so I guess I'm going to be okay for now.Quote: rxwineonce the storm starts.
September 7th, 2017 at 8:21:35 PM
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Oh, no!
"Dealer has 'rock'... Pay 'paper!'"
September 7th, 2017 at 8:40:31 PM
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Quote: JoemanOh, no!
Too much reality tv.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
September 7th, 2017 at 9:03:07 PM
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Remember Andrew. Back before the Internet. Things looked like this for 50-70 miles. This was In and around the Homestead area. Many lives lost. Only fools would want to chance their lives to a Cat5 hurricane. Irma has the possibility of being even worse.
Think you're safe in acommercial building? Here's one that was still standing after the fact.
Irma is 5x what Andrew was. The Gif below shows the 2 next to each other. Andrew is the one going in and out on your screen.
Think you're safe in acommercial building? Here's one that was still standing after the fact.
Irma is 5x what Andrew was. The Gif below shows the 2 next to each other. Andrew is the one going in and out on your screen.
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September 7th, 2017 at 9:07:52 PM
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Gee What a bad year for Miami. I mean first Hurricane Irma and noW Looks like New England Patriots will go undefeated in NFL
September 7th, 2017 at 9:10:06 PM
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In other news.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/massive-equifax-data-breach-may-impact-half-of-us-population/ar-AArtE40?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
Quote:A massive cyber security incident at Equifax — one of the largest credit reporting agencies in the United States — may have exposed private information belonging to 143 million people — nearly half of the U.S. population.
Quote:Adding to the scandal, three of the company's top executives sold Equifax shares just days after the breach was discovered. The breach was not publicly disclosed until Thursday, more than six weeks later.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/massive-equifax-data-breach-may-impact-half-of-us-population/ar-AArtE40?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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September 7th, 2017 at 10:40:35 PM
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Maxpen,
No argument from me. Sometimes you're foolish in trying to take care of those you love, I guess. We're preparing as best we can.
No argument from me. Sometimes you're foolish in trying to take care of those you love, I guess. We're preparing as best we can.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 7th, 2017 at 10:52:11 PM
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Magitude 8 Earthquake outside of Mexico.
Oh yeah
Almost forgot.
"Mead went on to say that the exact date of the apocalypse, when the world will come to an end, is 23 September 2017"
Oh yeah
Almost forgot.
"Mead went on to say that the exact date of the apocalypse, when the world will come to an end, is 23 September 2017"
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September 7th, 2017 at 11:25:18 PM
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To be clear, size doesn't matter in the case of hurricanes. All the comparison between Andrew and Irma is the visible cloud field. Katrina also had a huge visible field rivalling Irma. Andrew was a compact bastard. Irma is a huge bastard but the wind and damage field is the same.
But what matters is wind speed, the barometric pressure at the center (which drives wind speed), the path and velocity of the storm itself, and for the purposes of human life, storm surge and topography. Andrew is likely to be stronger than Irma at landfall if the predictions hold up.
A large cloud field, if anything, looks alot more ominous then it really is.
Still, this hurricane is heading for somewhere in Florida and it's coming with a solid storm surge, flooding and wind, probably as a Category 4 storm. Likely all of Florida will experience tropical storm winds and a great swath of the state will experience the entire brunt. The width of Irma's hurricane force winds is about 120 miles. Florida is about 150 miles wide.
But what matters is wind speed, the barometric pressure at the center (which drives wind speed), the path and velocity of the storm itself, and for the purposes of human life, storm surge and topography. Andrew is likely to be stronger than Irma at landfall if the predictions hold up.
A large cloud field, if anything, looks alot more ominous then it really is.
Still, this hurricane is heading for somewhere in Florida and it's coming with a solid storm surge, flooding and wind, probably as a Category 4 storm. Likely all of Florida will experience tropical storm winds and a great swath of the state will experience the entire brunt. The width of Irma's hurricane force winds is about 120 miles. Florida is about 150 miles wide.
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September 7th, 2017 at 11:41:06 PM
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After this storm passes and you feel like going out for some beer, do you have a Zodiac type boat that you can float mom down to the tavern with? Got kayaks, or an airbed available? How about a canoe?Quote: beachbumbabsMaxpen,
No argument from me. Sometimes you're foolish in trying to take care of those you love, I guess. We're preparing as best we can.
Good to be able to float high and dry. Best of luck 3b.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:21:24 AM
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Much of the damage to Homestead, from Andrew, was the result of shoddy building practices by the developer and I'm pretty sure he and the building inspectors got long sentences because of it.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
September 8th, 2017 at 2:05:07 AM
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This was pretty funny. I was playing at video poker.com, one of the rare times I click on an ad mentioning a kitchen aid sale. Seemed like a sears' ad, so I clicked to see if they were trying something new. Turns out, the ad went to a website which said after 93 years of service, they had closed the store. Yet, the ads were still active.
http://www.bbappliance.com/?gclid=CMyXvYCdldYCFQK2wAodPD4Gdw
http://www.bbappliance.com/?gclid=CMyXvYCdldYCFQK2wAodPD4Gdw
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