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May 17th, 2017 at 1:16:11 PM permalink
Would you mind checking out whether they still have that early morning but unpublicized breakfast buffet? Its about 20 feet from one of their craps tables and about 15 feet from their Credit Desk (which is a misnomer for Host's Hangout Desk). Its just a small room off an alcove but it was filled with the usual breakfast stuff of eggs, sausage, bagels, cream cheese, cereals, OJ, Apple juice, etc. They never publicized it but it was a great way to start the day. Be advised, if it is still in operation, they charge fifty cents for the coffee that you can get for free about twenty steps away, but what the heck, why pinch pennies.

I don't know if you play slot machines or not, but if you do, I'd advise you to steer clear of the machines that are in the kiosk near the cars that are the grand prize, those machines pay the absolute worst.

Note: the early morning Tray Lizards will gladly bring you multiple bottles of water in one trip if you ask for them. There are not many Tray Lizards on duty that early and they are happy to just take care of you once and not come round again for awhile.

Enjoy your trip.
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May 17th, 2017 at 2:37:22 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

When it comes to cheese there are only two potentially correct answers. Clearly they are Cheez-Whiz and Easy Cheese.

It sounds to me like someone is counterfeiting cans of beans and that you got one of them and one real can. By any chance are the beans jumping around in the bowl? If not, try planting some in your back yard and see if a giant bean stalk grows.



Last time I tried growing crops in my "yard" (it's a balcony), my 3 pet cactuses died. It's a sad story.
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May 17th, 2017 at 7:16:11 PM permalink
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So I tried these... ...<yadda, yadda, burp, yadda> ...

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May 18th, 2017 at 6:08:54 AM permalink
Cheese on chili? How about chili on cheese? for something decadent - that might actually kill you - melt velveeta in a double boiler or crockpot and add your chili to that. Even canned chili works.

On my list of things I dig but really don't dare to do anymore.
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May 18th, 2017 at 9:47:40 AM permalink
Velveeta ain't legally allowed to be sold as cheese.
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May 18th, 2017 at 9:50:19 AM permalink
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Last time I tried growing crops in my "yard" (it's a balcony), my 3 pet cactuses died. It's a sad story.

You probably gave them too much water and bumble bees or bats have to tend to a cactus plant anyway.
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May 18th, 2017 at 12:18:27 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Velveeta ain't legally allowed to be sold as cheese.

I have never been a fan of Velveeta.
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May 18th, 2017 at 1:31:36 PM permalink
We made velveeta and rotel last weekend. Yummmy
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May 18th, 2017 at 3:11:02 PM permalink
Velveeta ain't good. HOWEVER, there is a bonus on their macaroni and cheese -- you don't need to add milk. This is absolutely game-changing, because I never have milk. And whenever/if ever I do have milk, I purchase it because I think, "Oh, I'm going to start eating cereal & milk for breakfast, eat macaroni and cheese a time or two this week...." and sure enough, two weeks later I realize I haven't even opened the carton of milk.
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May 18th, 2017 at 6:05:46 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Would you mind checking out whether they still have that early morning but unpublicized breakfast buffet? Its about 20 feet from one of their craps tables and about 15 feet from their Credit Desk (which is a misnomer for Host's Hangout Desk). Its just a small room off an alcove but it was filled with the usual breakfast stuff of eggs, sausage, bagels, cream cheese, cereals, OJ, Apple juice, etc. They never publicized it but it was a great way to start the day. Be advised, if it is still in operation, they charge fifty cents for the coffee that you can get for free about twenty steps away, but what the heck, why pinch pennies.

I don't know if you play slot machines or not, but if you do, I'd advise you to steer clear of the machines that are in the kiosk near the cars that are the grand prize, those machines pay the absolute worst.

Note: the early morning Tray Lizards will gladly bring you multiple bottles of water in one trip if you ask for them. There are not many Tray Lizards on duty that early and they are happy to just take care of you once and not come round again for awhile.

Enjoy your trip.

What kind of world is it that charges 50c for coffee at a free buffet? 😷 How they gonna run a successful binness and not even have Schlitz Malt liquor?
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May 19th, 2017 at 2:26:40 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

We made velveeta and rotel last weekend. Yummmy



This sort of usage is what velveeta is great for, I think the chili thing is an offshoot of the rotel idea

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May 19th, 2017 at 3:38:44 AM permalink
Velveeta, best use is hitting someone over the head with the box. I'm too good for that gelatinous block of orange stuff. It sickens me just thinking about what that stuff is.
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May 19th, 2017 at 3:50:50 AM permalink
I completely forgot Velveeta. It still exists? Do they keep it somewhere near actual cheese? I'm gonna get some. Don't know what I plan to do with it, but I'll get a block for nostalgia sake, and figure out a purpose for it later. As I recall (from about the 1970s) the stuff keeps really well (long). That's a good thing, right?
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May 19th, 2017 at 4:25:21 AM permalink
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So I tried these Ranch Style Beans (canned) from the store a week or so ago. Pretty good. So I bought two more cans the other day.



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May 19th, 2017 at 7:53:29 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

What kind of world is it that charges 50c for coffee at a free buffet? 😷 How they gonna run a successful binness and not even have Schlitz Malt liquor?

Ooops. My mistake. I'm not sure if they even have this anymore but it was an unpublicized early morning buffet at a nominal charge. For some reason, the coffee was fifty cents, I've no idea why. I doubt very many people would want Schlitz Malt Liquor if they are staying at The Venetian. Even those that might would undoubtedly not care for it from 6:00am to 8:00am.

Once I left the buffet area and took the grand total of twenty steps to the isolated craps table and then had my free coffee care of the morning CW who for some reason recognized me, though I don't know why. I will admit that it is foolish to charge fifty cents for coffee in the tiny little breakfast alcove but give coffee away free about twenty feet away. Casinos do strange things sometimes. I think it has something to with one hand not knowing about the other hand or the like.
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May 19th, 2017 at 8:05:23 AM permalink
Properly prepared beans should not induce gastrointestinal methane. Those who find beans discomforting need to ingest knotwood, mugwort, glucobrassisin. I posted about Rapini (Broccoli Raab) on a companion site. Ingesting that will reduce flatulence, lower glucose levels, lower blood pressure and bring world peace.
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May 19th, 2017 at 10:36:52 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Ooops. My mistake. I'm not sure if they even have this anymore but it was an unpublicized early morning buffet at a nominal charge. For some reason, the coffee was fifty cents, I've no idea why. I doubt very many people would want Schlitz Malt Liquor if they are staying at The Venetian. Even those that might would undoubtedly not care for it from 6:00am to 8:00am.

Once I left the buffet area and took the grand total of twenty steps to the isolated craps table and then had my free coffee care of the morning CW who for some reason recognized me, though I don't know why. I will admit that it is foolish to charge fifty cents for coffee in the tiny little breakfast alcove but give coffee away free about twenty feet away. Casinos do strange things sometimes. I think it has something to with one hand not knowing about the other hand or the like.

I was totally not serious. They probably just charged 50c to let people open their wallet in order to tip the staff. I found it funny you would mention them even charging for coffee, was humorous. The Schlitz malt liquor was a movie reference to Double Take.
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May 19th, 2017 at 1:42:14 PM permalink
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I completely forgot Velveeta. It still exists? Do they keep it somewhere near actual cheese? I'm gonna get some. Don't know what I plan to do with it, but I'll get a block for nostalgia sake, and figure out a purpose for it later. As I recall (from about the 1970s) the stuff keeps really well (long). That's a good thing, right?



My grocery store keeps it on the shelf under the bag cheese. I never thought about it until I bought it at walmart. They had it on the shelf next to the taco kits. I was confused for a sec so I read the box and it says refrigerate after opening.
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May 19th, 2017 at 4:53:49 PM permalink
Velveeta huh? I think y'all should go eat at the Silver Sevens Gourmet Buffet.
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May 21st, 2017 at 7:04:44 AM permalink
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May 21st, 2017 at 5:07:39 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

I completely forgot Velveeta. It still exists? Do they keep it somewhere near actual cheese? I'm gonna get some. Don't know what I plan to do with it, but I'll get a block for nostalgia sake, and figure out a purpose for it later. As I recall (from about the 1970s) the stuff keeps really well (long). That's a good thing, right?


1 brick of Velvetta (or off brand)
1 lb. ground sausage (or beef)
1 can Rotel (pick your spicy level)
-1 bag tortilla chips (for dipping)
-1 bag Fritos scoops (for dipping)
Brown sausage (and strain if you want), add Rotel and Velvetta, then simmer on very low until melted.

Awesome appetizer for whatever/whenever...

Velvetta is expensive! (~ 8 bucks for one brick).
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May 21st, 2017 at 10:17:48 PM permalink
The best grilled cheese sandwiches I've had use Velveeta instead of real cheese.

Use a bit of extra butter to fry it, and leave a bit of char on the outside of the bread.

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May 21st, 2017 at 10:33:41 PM permalink
Quote:

Some of the recipes for Velveeta concocted to sell the product include:
Pouring a Velveeta cheese sauce over toasted peanut butter and pickle sandwiches.
Mixing Velveeta cheese with chocolate to make chocolate fudge.
Cold baked bean and Velveeta cheese sandwiches, for an easy dairy serving to include at picnics.
Broiled Velveeta cheese, pineapple, and peanut butter sandwiches. Topped with a Maraschino cherry
Queso, which is made by combining Ro-Tel and Velveeta cheese. In 2002, competitors ConAgra and Kraft began selling Ro-Tel and Velveeta side-by-side in stores to boost sales of both products.

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May 21st, 2017 at 10:36:51 PM permalink
That's a pregnant lady's menu.
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May 21st, 2017 at 10:44:57 PM permalink
One of those could be the next eating challenge.
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May 21st, 2017 at 11:14:32 PM permalink
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May 22nd, 2017 at 11:52:17 AM permalink
Funniest sports record announcement I've heard all week,

Quote:

Tim Tebow ties Michael Jordan's home run record total.



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Back in the day.

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May 22nd, 2017 at 4:36:03 PM permalink
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Back in the day.



You are making me feel old. That stuff was high tech compared to the stuff I started on. We had punch cards and line printers, we didn't have any computer monitors. My first modem had suction cups that you actually placed the phone receiver in and it only transmitted 30 characters per second.

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May 22nd, 2017 at 5:08:25 PM permalink
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Back in the day.


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May 22nd, 2017 at 5:58:15 PM permalink
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May 22nd, 2017 at 11:16:46 PM permalink
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You are making me feel old. That stuff was high tech compared to the stuff I started on. We had punch cards and line printers, we didn't have any computer monitors. My first modem had suction cups that you actually placed the phone receiver in and it only transmitted 30 characters per second.



You're talking 1975 or so. My first computing class. We wrote in BASIC, they fed it into a computer across town via modem like this, we got run results the next day.

I had dial-up Compuserve, the big home network player, competition to AOHell. Now the spellchecker doesn't even recognize the name. I also had $800/mo phone bills a couple of times. Oops.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 2:49:21 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: DRich

You are making me feel old. That stuff was high tech compared to the stuff I started on. We had punch cards and line printers, we didn't have any computer monitors. My first modem had suction cups that you actually placed the phone receiver in and it only transmitted 30 characters per second.



You're talking 1975 or so. My first computing class. We wrote in BASIC, they fed it into a computer across town via modem like this, we got run results the next day.

I had dial-up Compuserve, the big home network player, competition to AOHell. Now the spellchecker doesn't even recognize the name. I also had $800/mo phone bills a couple of times. Oops.



I still remember the yelling I got when I was 12. We live in Pittsburgh and the pittsburgh AOL number was always busy. I figured out if I used a rural number it was always open. I didn't know about long distance calling and ended up with a 1200 phone bill. Parents were not so happy about that one.
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May 24th, 2017 at 4:27:33 AM permalink
my top 5 fast food picks:

#1 Subway's footlong meatball marinara. only $5.75. i get it toasted with provolone cheese and add onions, green peppers, oregano and black pepper. the only protein from Subway that i like. although they do have fresh veggies to load up on on their other picks.

#2 "Pollo" chicken. joints near me with the word "Pollo" in the name are peruvian charbroiled chicken joints. the chicken is heavily spiced but mild and very tasty. their sides of steak fries and slaw compliment very nicely.

#3 McDonalds hotcakes. just $3.49. the only thing from micky dees that i like. i can't make them that good.

#4 Chipotle tacos. just $2.60 for one chicken taco. their chicken is tasty as is their barbacoa. i load them up with almost everything else. a deal. i think 2 of them weigh more than a pound.

#5 Popeye's chicken. just the chicken and biscuits from Popeye's. don't like anything else there. their chicken is very greasy but it has taste. KFC doesn't imo.
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May 24th, 2017 at 6:00:23 AM permalink
#1 Subway's footlong meatball marinara. only $5.75.
Msg, soy, salt, pork.

#2 "Pollo" chicken.
Pollo is Spanish for chicken.

#3 McDonalds hotcakes.
Its the syrup that kills you.
#4 Chipotle tacos.
Ain't they bankrupt???

#5 Popeye's chicken. it has taste.
it has salt and pepper.
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May 24th, 2017 at 8:02:05 AM permalink
I have a question about gambling math....

Let's say there's a theoretical table game with a 2% house edge. I play $100 a hand, and my bankroll is $5,000. I play for 10 hours a day for 5 days. I understand how the house edge and ADT work, but how do you figure the odds of losing or winning various portions of your bankroll?

For example, what is the percent chance I will completely bust out and lose my entire bankroll given the above parameters? Or double my bankroll? What about losing 50% of my bankroll? Etc., etc., etc. I just didn't know if there was some kind of formula for this.
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May 24th, 2017 at 8:16:45 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

my top 5 fast food picks:

#1 Subway's footlong meatball marinara. only $5.75. i get it toasted with provolone cheese and add onions, green peppers, oregano and black pepper. the only protein from Subway that i like. although they do have fresh veggies to load up on on their other picks.

#2 "Pollo" chicken. joints near me with the word "Pollo" in the name are peruvian charbroiled chicken joints. the chicken is heavily spiced but mild and very tasty. their sides of steak fries and slaw compliment very nicely.

#3 McDonalds hotcakes. just $3.49. the only thing from micky dees that i like. i can't make them that good.

#4 Chipotle tacos. just $2.60 for one chicken taco. their chicken is tasty as is their barbacoa. i load them up with almost everything else. a deal. i think 2 of them weigh more than a pound.

#5 Popeye's chicken. just the chicken and biscuits from Popeye's. don't like anything else there. their chicken is very greasy but it has taste. KFC doesn't imo.



The only place I've ever had a better meatball sub than Subway is this little place called, anywhere other than Subway.

Peruvian chicken, however, is the food of the gods. You didn't mention the green chili sauce, which is the best part. It varies a lot from place to place. Some places make it thicker and milder. Other places make it thinner and spicier. It's always good though.
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May 24th, 2017 at 8:26:26 AM permalink
I'll take a Subway over a Quizno's, but anywhere else over a Subway.
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May 24th, 2017 at 8:56:34 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

what is the percent chance I will completely bust out and lose my entire bankroll

There are formulas and tables for calculating a gambler's Risk of Ruin. Most tables express your chances of having a 90 percent chance of risk of ruin based on Perfect Play with no dealer tipping or cocktail waitress tipping. These are of course not realistic situations.

A great depends upon Hands Per Hour and the more side bets there are and the more players there are at the table, the fewer Hands Per Hour there will be.

Alot of the Rules of Thumb may be a bit antiquated but they were developed eons ago when computers were big behomths rather than tiny little things readily available in the Pit.

Remember, its only an estimate and it does assume perfect play without any mistakes.

So lets consider Blackjack with some really good rules and that you are playing at The Venetian:

In order to have only a ten percent chance that 'normal variance' will swallow your entire bankroll during four hours of play, you would need to be betting 40 units. I've chosen FOUR hours because that is what the Venetian likes to see even though other casinos often rate you for THREE hours of play.
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May 24th, 2017 at 9:03:55 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

There are formulas and tables for calculating a gambler's Risk of Ruin. Most tables express your chances of having a 90 percent chance of risk of ruin based on Perfect Play with no dealer tipping or cocktail waitress tipping. These are of course not realistic situations.

A great depends upon Hands Per Hour and the more side bets there are and the more players there are at the table, the fewer Hands Per Hour there will be.

Alot of the Rules of Thumb may be a bit antiquated but they were developed eons ago when computers were big behomths rather than tiny little things readily available in the Pit.

Remember, its only an estimate and it does assume perfect play without any mistakes.



A lot of people also run simulations to get the rough number
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May 24th, 2017 at 9:20:07 AM permalink
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A lot of people also run simulations to get the rough number

As far as math goes I get 8 plus 3 equals eleven by counting 8, 9, 10 11. So I don't do very many simulations or very much programming.
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May 24th, 2017 at 10:09:46 AM permalink
Okay, I found this simulator thanks to another thread on this forum; somebody tell me if I'm doing this right:

Let's say I select Baccarat: Player

Deposit: 5,000 (this is supposed to be the bankroll, right?)
Bonus: 0
Wagering: 350,000 (total money wagered, right? I.e., 5 days x 10 hours x 70 hands per hour of baccarat x $100 per hand)
Bet size: 100
Simulations: 10000 (not sure what to put here)

So when I plug in those numbers it gives me a 64% risk of ruin. Did I do all that right?
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May 24th, 2017 at 11:36:29 AM permalink
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I'll take a Subway over a Quizno's, but anywhere else over a Subway.


Agree about Quiznos. Subway is the cheapest of the sub joints though. For hot subs, FireHouse.
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May 24th, 2017 at 11:49:12 AM permalink
I like Subway because it isn't full of yuppees like Quiznos is. Plus, I have a huge advantage play going on at Subway....plus, they're everywhere!

I also like Jersey Mikes. Unfortunately, there aren't too many of them and I don't really know where any of them are....and it's always a mess eating one of their sandwiches.
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May 24th, 2017 at 11:52:20 AM permalink
Quote: RS

I like Subway because it isn't full of yuppees like Quiznos is. Plus, I have a huge advantage play going on at Subway....plus, they're everywhere!

I also like Jersey Mikes. Unfortunately, there aren't too many of them and I don't really know where any of them are....and it's always a mess eating one of their sandwiches.


I had an advantage play at Blimpie airways getting a foot long for the price of a 6 inch.

Jersey Mike's is expensive. There are a few around me.
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FleaStiff
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May 24th, 2017 at 11:59:51 AM permalink
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Did I do all that right?

I don't think so. Someone else will have to step in here though 'cause I really can not do basic arithmetic. No joking.

With a 5000 bankroll at Baccarat you could play for four hours with a 90 percent chance of avoiding Gambler's Ruin through normal variance if you follow Basic Strategy of Player Bets with no Ties bets and no tipping of either dealer or Tray Lizard by making 100.00 bets. This is a rough approximation because I diivided by 50 instead of by 42. Dividing by 42 is utterly beyond my ken.
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May 24th, 2017 at 12:16:45 PM permalink
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I don't think so. Someone else will have to step in here though 'cause I really can not do basic arithmetic. No joking.

With a 5000 bankroll at Baccarat you could play for four hours with a 90 percent chance of avoiding Gambler's Ruin through normal variance if you follow Basic Strategy of Player Bets with no Ties bets and no tipping of either dealer or Tray Lizard by making 100.00 bets. This is a rough approximation because I diivided by 50 instead of by 42. Dividing by 42 is utterly beyond my ken.



What is the math you are doing to arrive at that conclusion?
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May 24th, 2017 at 1:16:18 PM permalink
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What is the math you are doing to arrive at that conclusion?

Math? Me??? Couldn't do math at gunpoint.

Try Easy.Vegas. It's by Michael Bluejay, who is "one of us". Look for the 'How much should I bet' page in the box near the top. Read the chart and that is about all.

Gambler's Ruin is the loss of your entire bankroll due to "normal variance', ie, a string of bad luck. Most tables show values of a ten percent risk of ruin, which is a reasonable risk to run. What you want to do is to give yourself a FAIR run for your money. All you math types will always say the best thing is to put your entire bankroll on ONE roll. That is just dandy if you win, but it sucks like hell if you lose and if your return flight is in three days.

Simulation may be far more fun and far more accurate, but its beyond me.

Remember though: don't ever be someone who does not tip the dealers and tip the Tray Lizard. Its not nice to be that way.
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May 24th, 2017 at 1:24:05 PM permalink
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So when I plug in those numbers it gives me a 64% risk of ruin. Did I do all that right?

I would tend to doubt that figure. If it IS true, then do not play ANY game in that manner. A 64 per cent risk of ruin is an absurd bet to take and its better to get your entertainment in just about any other manner than to endure a 64 percent risk of ruin. Its just foolish, so somewhere your math must be wrong because no sensible gambler would do it and very few utterly drunk gamblers would do it either.
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