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Joeman
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September 10th, 2015 at 12:55:06 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I am pretty sure the bible addresses killing people and I don't remember any exceptions.

Actually, killing is often justified in the Old Testament. Murder is what is forbidden.

Perhaps Face just wants to trick out his vessel to do his part in maintaining "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State."
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September 10th, 2015 at 1:24:16 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

You know it's funny....The anti-gay people and the pro gun people are usually the same people. And their positions come from supposedly strong religious beliefs.

YOU want to "tote your 30mm around town" and "mount LUA-61's to your boat". So here's my question? for what purpose? hunting? Because I am pretty sure the bible addresses killing people and I don't remember any exceptions. :/ Funny how you can pick and choose what in the bible you want to quote and live by. :/



I must suspect your overall question was rhetorical and not actually addressed to me. If you see me quoting the Bible, it's only to combat a Bible thumper who's using the Bible as a weapon. I am blissfully free of the constraints of religion, have been my whole life, and intend to be so for the rest of it. That's not to say I'm not spiritual. I just don't assign fantasy to my spiritualness.

I personally want a 30mm for the same reason you're gay - it's just who I am. Maybe it was how I was raised, maybe some personal experiences, maybe I was just born that way. The "why" doesn't matter; I just know I'm happy being me, and me likes guns. Your "me" likes guys. Why would I care? I might think you're crazy for getting married, but that's just because I think marriage in and of itself is insane. The fact that you're a guy and you're married to a guy could not matter less to me. You happy? If so, good for you. I am happy that you are happy, and I mean that genuinely. I don't impose my opinion of insanity onto you. One man's trash and all that. It's none of my business.

Quote: Joeman


Perhaps Face just wants to trick out his vessel to do his part in maintaining "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State."



I can tell none of you are perch fisherman. They must all be too busy nodding in agreement with me to respond. Because, you see, if you ever get on a school, and then have 14 other boats try to cram into your one acre of water, and you DON'T wish for some militarized rocket launchers, then you are suffering from a severe deficiency of USA#1 and need to get you some 'Merica, stat!

;)

But seriously, I took an oath to uphold the constitution and to defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic. You may look at acquiring an aircraft cannon and mounting it to my truck as ridiculous. But hey, I'm just doing my job =)
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September 10th, 2015 at 1:25:10 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So in all those buildings and golf courses and
whatever else he did, he worked with no people
on the implementation and developed no
skills on how to get things done. He brokered no
deals, and has no abilities in any of these areas.

What are you talking about.



I'm talking about separation of powers, and the difference between being a businessman and being a public executive. Congress funds things, not the President. So it doesn't matter what he wants if he can't get Congress to agree to pay for it. In most cases, Congress must also approve of the creation of any new initiative as well as funding it, so there's another point of failure to navigate. Businessmen get loans from banks, funding from venture capitalists, revenue from shareholders; the Federal Government has none of those available to them. A President needs champions to carry the burden in all branches of government and a consensus to move forward from many, many people.

It's also very difficult to implement anything in the Government compared to any business structure. There are endless approvals needed, regulations to satisfy, and intergovernmental coordinations needed. It takes years just to define the requirements for any project, bid it out, and start creating it, let alone implementation and sustainment once it's green-lit. I do have some experience with this, from several years in DC HQ as a fed and after retirement as a government contractor and consultant for several more years. It's almost impossible to be innovative, autonomous, or expeditious in making anything happen.

All of that works in direct opposition to Trump's experience as a businessman, not to mention his personal style of defensive and derogatory statements. He tells people to do something and it's done or they're fired, throws money at it from his personal funds or his lines of credit/funding, declares bankruptcy if it fails, moves money between companies as needed, makes all the funding and budgetary decisions. None of that works in government. It's actually a hindrance because a businessman's expectation of process and corporate skills are so unusable they become frustrated and ineffective in office.
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September 10th, 2015 at 2:50:14 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

That is quite an unwarranted jump. There is really no indication of what she hates or what she does not hate. Such vitriol based on nothing but one's "feelings" does not do anything to bolster one's arguments.



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EvenBob
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September 10th, 2015 at 3:45:11 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm talking about separation of powers, and the difference between being a businessman and being a public executive. .



Trump has been dealing with these people
on almost a daily basis for decades. Why
do you think he gives politicians so much
money. He knows everybody and they know
him. He knows how it works, he knows how
to get things done. I can't figure out why
he wants the job, it's so far beneath his
abilities.
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EvenBob
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September 10th, 2015 at 4:19:21 PM permalink
This is such a strange election. In 2008 Obama
had zero qualifications to run, and he was
praised lavishly. Trump is over qualified and
he's being lambasted for it. Up is down and
down is up.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
RonC
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September 10th, 2015 at 4:51:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This is such a strange election. In 2008 Obama
had zero qualifications to run, and he was
praised lavishly. Trump is over qualified and
he's being lambasted for it. Up is down and
down is up.



I don't get that part of the criticism, either.
I wonder how well he will work with others
(I have posted about it) BUT he absolutely
cannot be any worse at working with the
opposition than the President.

He has gotten politicians of both sides to
do many things...I have to believe some of
them were things they didn't want to do.
ams288
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September 10th, 2015 at 5:17:15 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This is such a strange election. In 2008 Obama
had zero qualifications to run, and he was
praised lavishly. Trump is over qualified and
he's being lambasted for it. Up is down and
down is up.



Let's not forget you were one of the first ones to criticize him.

You've done a complete 360 these last couple weeks.
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EvenBob
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September 10th, 2015 at 6:20:06 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Let's not forget you were one of the first ones to criticize him.

You've done a complete 360 these last couple weeks.



Me and Charles Krauthammer. He said after
the debate that Trump was a 'clown' and would
be gone in a few weeks. This week he said
Trump has a 'good chance of being president'.
I heard him say it on live TV.
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rxwine
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September 10th, 2015 at 9:04:15 PM permalink
[I think the Trump backlash is already represented by the 2nd highest polling Repub. As a character, Carson is almost the polar opposite. Petty, semi-unhinged bombast is not part of his character.

It may very well be that he is much higher than he would be in the polls because he is un-Trump-like. So, Trump might actually have helped him in that way.
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