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rxwine
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September 7th, 2015 at 1:05:25 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

And I don't think Carson is the guy either. he has little organization behind him. Carson is VERY similar to the pizza guy....not a serious candidate.



Not sure Obama had much organization or backing, back when he started. And if he did, not sure what the source was.

I have to disagree that Carson comes off like the Godfather Pizza guy.
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kewlj
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September 7th, 2015 at 2:06:11 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Not sure Obama had much organization or backing, back when he started. And if he did, not sure what the source was.



I don't think you are remembering things correctly, rxwine. Obama became a candidate VERY early, in February 2007, a full year before Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. Much earlier than ANYONE became a candidate this cycle.

He had a huge ground game, which is why he won Iowa and almost every caucus state very big. It takes huge organization to do well in caucus states.

If you don't remember who the source of his early backing was, I'll refresh your memory. Oprah and Warren Buffet were two of his biggest supporters. Buffet actually had a official title of advisor for the campaign. :/
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September 7th, 2015 at 2:29:33 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I don't think you are remembering things correctly, rxwine. Obama became a candidate VERY early, in February 2007, a full year before Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. Much earlier than ANYONE became a candidate this cycle.

He had a huge ground game, which is why he won Iowa and almost every caucus state very big. It takes huge organization to do well in caucus states.

If you don't remember who the source of his early backing was, I'll refresh your memory. Oprah and Warren Buffet were two of his biggest supporters. Buffet actually had a official title of advisor for the campaign. :/



Yeah, truthfully, I don't.

Although I was certain his organization grew with his increasing popularity. But the congressional black congress was supporting Hillary. Bill Clinton was more fresh and influential to the base at that time. I really don't remember Obama having a strong organization at first.
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September 7th, 2015 at 4:05:17 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Are you even paying attention? Even the usual
Dem cheeleaders are shaking their heads, saying
Hillary is underwater on popularity and it will
only get worse. Has anybody ever been elected
when the likable rating was under 50% like hers
is?



I don't think any Dem cheerleaders are saying "it will only get worse."

If Hillary is the nominee people will get behind her. We are so far away from the election, literally anything could happen! Joe Biden could swoop in and be the nominee. Who knows?

Obama's popularity was underwater prior to the start of the 2012 election. And it went up as the election approached and people had to choose between him and Mr. 47%.

We are in that phase where everyone is sleeping around, looking for their dream candidate. Once we get closer to the election, more and more voters will start to toe the party line and everyone's numbers will go up.
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September 7th, 2015 at 4:06:40 PM permalink
Quote: doughboy11

Here's another poll for the Trump deniers to ignore. He leads Hillary by 5 in iowa
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_trump_vs_clinton-5597.html

He's down by just 1 in New Hampshire
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_clinton-5596.html

When Trump wins next year it will be so sweet rubbing the Trump deniers faces in it...................................



Is that you, JohnCena?
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September 7th, 2015 at 4:45:25 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Sure [Bush] has a lot of money.


Jeb's campaign war che$t is already big enough that if he was truly motivated, he could drag the primary out for many months-- May, June, July, etc. The flaw in this theory is that Jeb doesn't seem to be enjoying himself, he's not having fun. He appears tired, annoyed, and stressed out. On the campaign trail, he looks like a man stuck behind a lawn mower on Saturday morning. (Meanwhile, Trump is the neighbor next door lying on a hammock with a few Bud Lights.)

Quote: kewlj

I've always thought Rubio has all the tools. Young, good-looking very personable , well spoken guy.


I have a family member who's a hardcore conservative-- loves Hugh Hewitt, Rush, etc.; hates all liberal politicians. Anyway, I asked my relative what he thinks of Rubio, and he said he'll never forgive Rubio for being too soft on illegal immigrants.
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September 7th, 2015 at 5:05:56 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj


What seems much more definitive to me is that Jeb Bush's campaign has suffered a fatal blow. Some of that because of Trumps constant attacks, some of that many unforced errors and lack of enthusiasm on Jebs part, some just some policy positions that conflict with the republican electorate (we knew this coming in). Some because of his last name.



Jeb never really had huge popularity. He was just the guy the establishment was going to give push to. The rank-and-file were never behind him.

Meanwhile, do you want to look at this for 4 years???????

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September 7th, 2015 at 5:17:55 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

If Trump gets the nod I would vote for him with no hesitation...



Liberals were amused in August when Trump said that he thinks Judge Maryanne Barry would make a "phenomenal" Supreme Court Justice. Barry wrote a noteworthy decision in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion.

Barry is also Trump's sister, so it would be unprecedented for a President to nominate his own sibling to the Supreme Court. But as we all know, everything about Trump's political career is unprecedented.
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September 7th, 2015 at 5:31:34 PM permalink
Quote: reno



Barry is also Trump's sister, so it would be unprecedented for a President to nominate his own sibling to the Supreme Court. But as we all know, everything about Trump's political career is unprecedented.



JFK put Bobby up as AG, so not as big a deal as you are making out.
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kewlj
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September 7th, 2015 at 5:45:15 PM permalink
Quote: reno

Liberals were amused in August when Trump said that he thinks Judge Maryanne Barry would make a "phenomenal" Supreme Court Justice. Barry wrote a noteworthy decision in favor of giving constitutional protection to partial-birth abortion.

Barry is also Trump's sister, so it would be unprecedented for a President to nominate his own sibling to the Supreme Court. But as we all know, everything about Trump's political career is unprecedented.




She is 78 years old, 9 years older than Donald, meaning she would be turning 80 just after he took office. I doubt even the republicans would support such a move, even if a spot opened up early in his presidency.

BUT, should Donald become president, I certainly could see him giving positions to some of his children that they are not qualified for. :/ That seems to be his way.

BTW, Trump would be 70 if he was elected, making him the oldest person elected to a first term (Reagan was older in his second term).

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