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March 12th, 2015 at 11:33:39 AM permalink
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Yes, the GOP will keep hammering her over her email her criminal behavior as Secretary of State to impact the 2016 election.



Criminal behavior is getting us into a needles trillion dollar war that cost thousands of American lives like your precious Georgie Bush did. That's criminal behavior.



And that folks is the truth.

We already have "boots on the ground" in Ukraine. Ukraine just got an IMF loan for 17 billion dollars, while Greece implodes, mostly because of Goldman Sachs orchestrated derivative security's investments. The very same CDO's that caused our current financial calamity.

This admin is doing a round- about invasion of Syria. That has absolutely zero to do with US interests, unless you are an investment banker or a military contractor.

Going to war with either of these country's will do no more good than our invasion of Libya. It is about destabilization. The PTB do not want peace, there is no money in it.

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March 12th, 2015 at 12:07:03 PM permalink
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Your sexism is shining through, Bob.



No, my anti Clinton bias is shining thru.
Redneck criminals is all they are.
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March 12th, 2015 at 12:11:30 PM permalink
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Yes, and Republicans are little candy ass do gooders who have never done anything wrong.



This is the kind of logic a five year old uses when they get caught doing something wrong. And proves my point, liberals will not care what Hillary has done.

Same as they say "Bill just lied about sex" when he committed a felony by lying under oath. Hillary committed at least several felonies in destroying government records. And as usual, she thinks rules do not apply to her.
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March 12th, 2015 at 12:17:09 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

And as usual, she thinks rules do not apply to her.



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March 12th, 2015 at 12:19:52 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

No, my anti Clinton bias is shining thru.
Redneck criminals is all they are.



That is an insult to rednecks. At least rednecks invented Nascar, what did the Clinton's do except invent the governor's school in Ark? http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/littleton5-99.html

They were also involved with the cia cocaine import business with GW Bush, flying coke into Mena Arkansas. These are the "vetted" types of people who get elected in this country.
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March 12th, 2015 at 1:07:44 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

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Yes, the GOP will keep hammering her over her email her criminal behavior as Secretary of State to impact the 2016 election.



Criminal behavior is getting us into a needles trillion dollar war that cost thousands of American lives like your precious Georgie Bush did. That's criminal behavior.


According to a site I looked up 4,486 Americans died during the Iraq War, and I by no means wish to trivialize it, but in the roughly 10 years of the Iraq War, I would venture more people were killed in the streets of Chicago than did in combat
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March 12th, 2015 at 2:28:24 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

Quote: mickeycrimm

Quote: AZDuffman

Yes, the GOP will keep hammering her over her email her criminal behavior as Secretary of State to impact the 2016 election.



Criminal behavior is getting us into a needles trillion dollar war that cost thousands of American lives like your precious Georgie Bush did. That's criminal behavior.


According to a site I looked up 4,486 Americans died during the Iraq War, and I by no means wish to trivialize it, but in the roughly 10 years of the Iraq War, I would venture more people were killed in the streets of Chicago than did in combat



But if the Iraq War never happened we would have 4,486 more Americans and the debt would be a trillion dollars less. I'm not hacking here as a far lefty. I'm an Independent. I don't like ad hominem attacks on those of either party. Who am I going to vote for in the General Election? It depends on who the Repubs put up against Hillary I guess. I'll certainly vote for Hillary before I will vote for Ted Cruz or any other far righters. The Clintons were never the far lefties that Obama is. Bill got a lot of things done as President like welfare reform and a balanced budget. Bill worked with republicans. I expect Hillary will do the same thing. Bush destroyed the balanced budget just as soon as he got in office.
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March 12th, 2015 at 2:51:40 PM permalink
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Bill worked with republicans. I expect Hillary will do the same thing.



What in Hillary's history makes you think she would ever work with the GOP? What is one thing she has done in the past with them?
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March 12th, 2015 at 3:00:52 PM permalink
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What in Hillary's history makes you think she would ever work with the GOP? What is one thing she has done in the past with them?



She hates the 'vast right wing conspiracy'.
Her and Bill are nothing alike, oil and water.
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March 12th, 2015 at 4:19:46 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

What in Hillary's history makes you think she would ever work with the GOP? What is one thing she has done in the past with them?



I'm one of the Independents you have to convince to vote Republican if you want to win the election. So carefull with the mud slinging.
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March 12th, 2015 at 4:32:24 PM permalink
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I'm one of the Independents you have to convince to vote Republican if you want to win the election. So carefull with the mud slinging.



Or you could do the right thing and not vote at all.
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March 12th, 2015 at 4:54:49 PM permalink
How is that working out for you?
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March 12th, 2015 at 5:06:57 PM permalink
Personally, I lean more right than left, but I am kind of the mindset that a Republican sucks and a Democrat blows. I don't think either party has the nations interest at heart. Both will spend more than they should, it's just a matter of who will get the windfall. If you are a fan of history, like I am, you want gridlock in Government, that is because that way solely partisan things don't get passed and one party can't run roughshod over the other. Clinton didn't balance the budget till his side got railroaded in the 1994 midterms. And the balance of the budget was not due to being fiscally conservative, it was due to large revenues from and artificially inflated economy which imploded years later in the dotcom bubble.
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March 12th, 2015 at 5:09:34 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

How is that working out for you?



How is voting working out for you?

Let's be extremely naive and assume whatever a politician says he is going to do he actually does go and do. So you have these ideas on how the country should be run and the politician you vote for also shares these ideas. If your politician wins those ideas will be forced under the threat of violence onto others.

Do the right thing by not voting. No one has the right to force their ideas onto others. Doesn't matter what ritual (aka voting) you go through. Quit giving a perceived legitimacy to an immoral institution.
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March 12th, 2015 at 5:38:01 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I'm one of the Independents you have to convince to vote Republican if you want to win the election. So carefull with the mud slinging.



What mud am I slinging? You said she would cooperate with the GOP. I am asking what in her history makes you think she will. And I will ask that again, what in her history makes you think she will?

As to "mudslinging" Hillary is the queen of it. "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy." "Republican Attack Machine." How many other like statements has she made?
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March 12th, 2015 at 5:46:50 PM permalink
No president has run the country since
the 1880's, when big business started
running everything. Whatever man is
in office, he's in the pocket of the
giant industries that put him there. He
only changes what they tell him to change.
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March 12th, 2015 at 6:33:04 PM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

Quote: AZDuffman

Yes, the GOP will keep hammering her over her email her criminal behavior as Secretary of State to impact the 2016 election.



Criminal behavior is getting us into a needles trillion dollar war that cost thousands of American lives like your precious Georgie Bush did. That's criminal behavior.



A war the Clintons vigorously supported and Nobama has continued and escalated into Syria.
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March 12th, 2015 at 6:36:11 PM permalink
Quote: rudeboyoi

How is voting working out for you?

Let's be extremely naive and assume whatever a politician says he is going to do he actually does go and do. So you have these ideas on how the country should be run and the politician you vote for also shares these ideas. If your politician wins those ideas will be forced under the threat of violence onto others.

Do the right thing by not voting. No one has the right to force their ideas onto others. Doesn't matter what ritual (aka voting) you go through. Quit giving a perceived legitimacy to an immoral institution.



I encourage you to continue to not vote. That will work out for me just fine.
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March 12th, 2015 at 6:38:10 PM permalink
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Its not one side smart and one side dumb.
Its simply a different world view.

A lot of my politics is based on freedom.
I dont believe the govt has the right to determine who can and cannot get married.
If 2 people want to get married, so be it. Let them have the freedom to get married. None of my business.



Hmmmm. What if one of them is already married? Progressives (formerly known as leftwing whack jobs) are the biggest persecutors of polygamists.
Oh and where are you on the freedom to not wear a seat belt-another favorite of police state progressives.
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March 12th, 2015 at 6:46:04 PM permalink
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Personally, I lean more right than left, but I am kind of the mindset that a Republican sucks and a Democrat blows. I don't think either party has the nations interest at heart. Both will spend more than they should, it's just a matter of who will get the windfall. If you are a fan of history, like I am, you want gridlock in Government, that is because that way solely partisan things don't get passed and one party can't run roughshod over the other. Clinton didn't balance the budget till his side got railroaded in the 1994 midterms. And the balance of the budget was not due to being fiscally conservative, it was due to large revenues from and artificially inflated economy which imploded years later in the dotcom bubble.



That's actually a pretty good analysis.
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March 12th, 2015 at 6:49:35 PM permalink
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Progressives (formerly known as leftwing whack jobs) .



lol. They still are in my house.
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March 12th, 2015 at 7:40:00 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

Personally, I lean more right than left, but I am kind of the mindset that a Republican sucks and a Democrat blows. I don't think either party has the nations interest at heart. Both will spend more than they should, it's just a matter of who will get the windfall. If you are a fan of history, like I am, you want gridlock in Government, that is because that way solely partisan things don't get passed and one party can't run roughshod over the other. Clinton didn't balance the budget till his side got railroaded in the 1994 midterms. And the balance of the budget was not due to being fiscally conservative, it was due to large revenues from and artificially inflated economy which imploded years later in the dotcom bubble.



We're lucky if 60 percent of the population agree that something is good enough. And that's usually not very long.
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March 12th, 2015 at 9:47:27 PM permalink
Quote: bobsims

Hmmmm. What if one of them is already married? Progressives (formerly known as leftwing whack jobs) are the biggest persecutors of polygamists.

Not to mention that two or more family members older than the age of majority also have the prescribed right to equal treatment under the law, and that would necessarily also have to include various forms of incest.
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March 12th, 2015 at 9:54:11 PM permalink
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The Clintons were never the far lefties that Obama is.

It might be a good idea to learn about Hillary Clinton's preposterous health care program of 1994.
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March 12th, 2015 at 10:26:16 PM permalink
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You said she would cooperate with the GOP. I am asking what in her history makes you think she will.

She and McCain seem to be on the same side about arming Al-Nusra [the moderate Al queda] in Syria. Lots of armaments that left Libya ended up with the moderate militants, not only in Syria but in Mali, probably elsewhere.

They seem to agree on the federal reserve, and gutting what was left of our manufacturing base. appoint the same cabinet members. They are paternal parasites.

She voted for the Iraq war in 2002.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup/

Jeb bush gives Hillary "freedom award", http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-watch/2013/june/27/jeb-presents-hillary-neo-con-of-the-year-award.aspx

Here is Jeb Bush on Hillary Clinton:
“Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world in democracy. “These efforts as a citizen, an activist, and a leader have earned Secretary Clinton this year’s Liberty Medal.”
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March 13th, 2015 at 12:05:15 AM permalink
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“Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world ”



Choke gasp sputter gag.. What a load
of crap. I wouldn't vote for that clown
Bush if he was the only one running.
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March 13th, 2015 at 1:17:38 AM permalink
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Choke gasp sputter gag.. What a load
of crap. I wouldn't vote for that clown
Bush if he was the only one running.



Have you ever been in a race riot, Bob? I have. I was in a tough ass race riot in 1973. And guess who I stood up for. I'm a whitie mo fo, bitch. Who's side do you think I was on?
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March 13th, 2015 at 1:40:43 AM permalink
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Have you ever been in a race riot, Bob? I have. I was in a tough ass race riot in 1973. And guess who I stood up for. I'm a whitie mo fo, bitch. Who's side do you think I was on?



Did we get any help from you yankee, stinkin yankee boys in that riot? Hell, no! Not from you coward yankee punks. You a southern man and you watch a black piece of shit, along with his black piece of shit friends, run over every white man they can get away with. And it was all happening in the U.S. Army. I broke down bunks and took the bunk adaptors out. I loaded some of my socks with rocks. And I went out there and clubbed as many black (^(($$)&(^n mother %*(*%*(*() as I could find. I beat them black pieces of shit into the ground. It was just us Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana boys that had the guts to pull that shit on them. All you yankee ass piece of shit white boys stood on the sidelines and watched us operate. You are all cowrads until you die. I got thrown in the hole. They wanted to give me a Bad Conduct. Through my Army lawyer I got it reduced to a General.
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March 13th, 2015 at 1:49:48 AM permalink
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Did we get any help from you yankee, stinkin yankee boys in that riot? Hell, no! Not from you coward yankee punks. You a southern man and you watch a black piece of shit, along with his black piece of shit friends, run over every white man they can get away with. And it was all happening in the U.S. Army. I broke down bunks and took the bunk adaptors out. I loaded some of my socks with rocks. And I went out there and clubbed as many black (^(($$)&(^n mother %*(*%*(*() as I could find. I beat them black pieces of shit into the ground. It was just us Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana boys that had the guts to pull that shit on them. All you yankee ass piece of shit white boys stood on the sidelines and watched us operate. You are all cowrads until you die. I got thrown in the hole. They wanted to give me a Bad Conduct. Through my Army lawyer I got it reduced to a General.



We were protecting your yankee punk asses more than we were prtotecing ourselves.
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March 13th, 2015 at 1:54:53 AM permalink
That's the reason I've never claimed to be a veteran. I was kicked out of the Army because of my participation in a race riot at Fort Riley, Kansas in 1973. I was on the white boys side. But, guess what. I'm a white boy.
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March 13th, 2015 at 2:28:10 AM permalink
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Did we get any help from you yankee, stinkin yankee boys in that riot? Hell, no! Not from you coward yankee punks. You a southern man and you watch a black piece of shit, along with his black piece of shit friends, run over every white man they can get away with. And it was all happening in the U.S. Army. I broke down bunks and took the bunk adaptors out. I loaded some of my socks with rocks. And I went out there and clubbed as many black (^(($$)&(^n mother %*(*%*(*() as I could find. I beat them black pieces of shit into the ground.



Wow. Hope you're proud of yourself. Us 'yankee
punks' are much more in control of our racism.
You really are a piece of work, dude. Hope you
stick around for more enlightening posts like
this one..
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March 13th, 2015 at 4:35:32 AM permalink
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Have you ever been in a race riot, Bob? I have. I was in a tough ass race riot in 1973. And guess who I stood up for. I'm a whitie mo fo, bitch. Who's side do you think I was on?



Quote: mickeycrimm

Did we get any help from you yankee, stinkin yankee boys in that riot? Hell, no! Not from you coward yankee punks. You a southern man and you watch a black piece of shit, along with his black piece of shit friends, run over every white man they can get away with. And it was all happening in the U.S. Army. I broke down bunks and took the bunk adaptors out. I loaded some of my socks with rocks. And I went out there and clubbed as many black (^(($$)&(^n mother %*(*%*(*() as I could find. I beat them black pieces of shit into the ground. It was just us Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana boys that had the guts to pull that shit on them. All you yankee ass piece of shit white boys stood on the sidelines and watched us operate. You are all cowrads until you die. I got thrown in the hole. They wanted to give me a Bad Conduct. Through my Army lawyer I got it reduced to a General.



Quote: mickeycrimm

We were protecting your yankee punk asses more than we were prtotecing ourselves.




What on earth brought all of this on? Are you trying to get suspended?
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March 13th, 2015 at 8:19:44 AM permalink
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March 13th, 2015 at 8:39:45 AM permalink
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What on earth brought all of this on?



Everyone knows that not voting for Jeb = didn't beat #$%^&@ in race riots. Ldo.

What I must know is how Mickey claims he has no control while on a bender and posts to prove it, yet has the wherewithal to edit certain slurs and cusses.

It does not compute, Mr. Crimm.
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March 13th, 2015 at 9:22:12 AM permalink
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What on earth brought all of this on?



Perhaps he is hearing voices and answering them.
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March 13th, 2015 at 9:31:35 AM permalink
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Perhaps he is hearing voices and answering them.



Either you or Face might be correct. I looked at the posts a few times and see no connection between EB not liking Jeb and race riots. What was amusing to me is the guy says *I* need to be careful slinging mud yet not a few hours later all of that comes out. Usually there is some kind of slow burn or other escalation. Really weird.
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March 13th, 2015 at 9:33:50 AM permalink
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What on earth brought all of this on?


My guess is Black Velvet.
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March 13th, 2015 at 10:55:04 AM permalink
Oh dear. That's number eight, less than 30 days after number seven. Can we show him some leniency this time?
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March 13th, 2015 at 12:00:15 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Perhaps he is hearing voices and answering them.



He should do what I do and pretend he can't hear them.
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March 13th, 2015 at 12:01:24 PM permalink
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What in Hillary's history makes you think she would ever work with the GOP? What is one thing she has done in the past with them?


The one thing I can think of; she voted against Senator Boxer's challenge of the 2004 Presidential election (Boxer and at least one Representative whose name(s) I can't think of at the moment challenged Ohio's electoral votes cast for Bush (because of the whole "Diebold" thing), but none of the other Senators - including Clinton and Obama - voted to change the result).
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March 13th, 2015 at 12:32:43 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Everyone knows that not voting for Jeb = didn't beat #$%^&@ in race riots. Ldo.

What I must know is how Mickey claims he has no control while on a bender and posts to prove it, yet has the wherewithal to edit certain slurs and cusses.

It does not compute, Mr. Crimm.



Read it again after a fifth of tequila?

Joe Walsh "couldn't get much higher" with Joe Satriani https://youtu.be/e74Q5BLzzKQ

What is Ldo?
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March 13th, 2015 at 1:54:48 PM permalink
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What is Ldo?



A smartass reply the kids do nowadays. Stands for "Like, duh, obviously".

I'll kindly request further discussion of MC's latest to be taken to the Suspension thread, and keep this one on the topic of the upcoming election.
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March 20th, 2015 at 8:15:56 PM permalink
OMG! This brought tears of joy to my eyes.
There are uber feminists who 'get' Hillary.
This is Camile Paglia going off on Hillary
like nobody else dares to do. Go to 51min
and watch for 3min. That's where she
talks about Hillary and DiFi. Good stuff,
the whole interview is excellent.

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March 21st, 2015 at 12:53:33 PM permalink
PAGLIA: She's a fraud! Hillary is a mess, okay? We're going to reward with the presidency a woman who has enabled the depredations and the exploitation of women by that corn pone husband of hers, and the way feminists have made us blind to Hillary's record of trashing, then gonna try to destroy Monica Lewinsky. It's a scandal. Anyone who knows their sexual harassment guidelines should have seen that the disparity of power between Clinton and Monica Lewinsky was one of the most grotesque ever in the history of sex crime! He's a sex criminal, and we're gonna put that guy back in the White House? Hillary has ridden on his coattails. This is not a woman who made her own career. She's a woman who failed the bar exam in Washington."

Hillary flunked the DC bar exam? I
thought she was the 'smartest woman
in the world.'

"On November 3, the District of Columbia Bar Association notified Hillary that she had failed the bar exam. For the first time in her life, she had flamed out — spectacularly, given the expectations of others for her, and even more so on her own. Of 817 applicants, 551 of her peers had passed, most from law schools less prestigious than Yale. She kept this news hidden for the next thirty years."

She kept it a secret until Bill was long out
of office. Can you imagine if it was Bush
who flunked a bar exam? The press would
be going insane with it if he was in Hillary's
position. Yet we hear not a peep about it.
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March 21st, 2015 at 1:08:21 PM permalink
Hopefully one of the loons can get one of these made up for Hillary.

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EvenBob
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March 21st, 2015 at 1:12:05 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Hopefully one of the loons can get one of these made up for Hillary.



Just 'majorly incompetent on every level' will do
nicely..
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RonC
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March 21st, 2015 at 1:21:22 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Just 'majorly incompetent on every level' will do
nicely..



No need for a "conspiracy theory" (and there isn't any need for one with Obama, either, he's just a poor excuse for a President) with Hillary--she has a bit of a record and there are a lot of issues with it.
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March 21st, 2015 at 9:23:58 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

No need for a "conspiracy theory" (and there isn't any need for one with Obama, either, he's just a poor excuse for a President) with Hillary--she has a bit of a record and there are a lot of issues with it.



Hils has screwed up in my book with whole email debacle. Not that I thought much of her in the first place. She is not much of a liberal and piss poor democratic socialist.

Obama by appearing on too many late night talk shows before he was out of office. He has not done much that I think will stand the test of time.
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March 22nd, 2015 at 4:51:28 PM permalink
I figure that there is a 50-50 shot that affirmative action boy will be removed by a CIA-military coup, before his term ends. So, Zeus willing there will be no more elections, at least for a long while, hey hey.
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March 22nd, 2015 at 5:31:02 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

I figure that there is a 50-50 shot that affirmative action boy will be removed by a CIA-military coup, before his term ends. So, Zeus willing there will be no more elections, at least for a long while, hey hey.



If you really believe its a 50-50 shot I'm willing to take a really big even money bet with you about it.
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