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March 22nd, 2015 at 5:45:43 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman

If you really believe its a 50-50 shot I'm willing to take a really big even money bet with you about it.



I'll offer 100 to 1 odds.
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March 22nd, 2015 at 5:57:36 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'll offer 100 to 1 odds.



Yeah I wanted the no side of the wager. Doubt you'd give me 100-1 on President not being disposed by CIA would you.
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March 23rd, 2015 at 12:20:40 PM permalink
I see Ted Cruz has released his birth certificate:

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Ted_Cruz_Birth_Cert.pdf

Or someone has. So that clears that up for him at least (and yes, I do realize he is almost certainly eligible to be the US president, even if he was born on Cowtown, Alberta, but he also Canadian by birth as well... even if he renounces it, he can always apply for it again).

(EDIT :: he has renounced it, a year ago, oops, old news!)
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March 23rd, 2015 at 1:01:13 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I

(EDIT :: he has renounced it, a year ago, oops, old news!)



He doesn't have a chance. Neither does Huckabee.
I have no respect for somebody in the public eye
who loses a bunch of weight only to put it all
back on again. I read an interview with him a few
months ago and he was eating breakfast at the
time. The author said he put away 3 times what
a normal person would eat, most of it fattening
carbs. He's in self destruct mode, he knows he's
diabetic, do we want somebody like this in the WH?
Bad enough we have a smoker in there.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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March 23rd, 2015 at 2:57:21 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

He doesn't have a chance. Neither does Huckabee.
I have no respect for somebody in the public eye
who loses a bunch of weight only to put it all
back on again. I read an interview with him a few
months ago and he was eating breakfast at the
time. The author said he put away 3 times what
a normal person would eat, most of it fattening
carbs. He's in self destruct mode, he knows he's
diabetic, do we want somebody like this in the WH?
Bad enough we have a smoker in there.



Who are you talking about, Bob? Chris Christie or Ted Cruz?
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March 23rd, 2015 at 3:19:42 PM permalink
Huckabee. He lost all the weight and then
gained it back with a vengeance. He knows
he's diabetic yet eats pancakes and waffles
and syrup for breakfast. He uses eating to
suppress other problems he has.

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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March 23rd, 2015 at 3:26:16 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Huckabee. He lost all the weight and then
gained it back with a vengeance. He knows
he's diabetic yet eats pancakes and waffles
and syrup for breakfast. He uses eating to
suppress other problems he has.



Oh "I love Huckabees" is a terrible candidate, a lightening rod for the Christian Right. He serves some use for the Reps, no doubt, but not as a Presidential Candidate.
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March 24th, 2015 at 6:30:56 AM permalink
So much talk about Hillary's looks, and yet no mention of the fact that Ted Cruz looks exactly like a goblin from a Harry Potter movie?!

Those pointy ears and that long nose.... He looks like pure evil.
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March 24th, 2015 at 7:40:05 AM permalink
Pretty packed event at Liberty U for Ted Cruz.
Was everybody there because they supported Ted?
Of course not.
In the spirit of Marshawn Lynch, many were there simply because they did not want to get fined.
Yup, if you decided to skip the event because you support, say Rand Paul, the University will fine you.

Is Liberty U really for Liberty lol ?
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/23/liberty-university-would-fine-students-who-skipped-ted-cruz-speech/
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March 24th, 2015 at 8:46:01 AM permalink
Liberty University is a joke of a school to begin with.... Yeesh.
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March 24th, 2015 at 8:54:14 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

So much talk about Hillary's looks, and yet no mention of the fact that Ted Cruz looks exactly like a goblin from a Harry Potter movie?!

Those pointy ears and that long nose.... He looks like pure evil.



As opposed to the Clintons who shuck and jive but actually ARE pure evil?
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March 24th, 2015 at 11:30:21 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

So much talk about Hillary's looks, and yet no mention of the fact that Ted Cruz looks exactly like a goblin from a Harry Potter movie?!Those pointy ears and that long nose.... He looks like pure evil.



I don't like Cruz at all. Plus he's chinless.
They say he has an under 10% chance.
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March 24th, 2015 at 11:38:13 AM permalink
IMO Scott Walker will be the GOP nominee
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March 24th, 2015 at 11:42:20 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

IMO Scott Walker will be the GOP nominee



Lets hope you are right.
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March 24th, 2015 at 11:48:51 AM permalink
Scott Walker will never win a general election. So I too hope you are right.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:01:10 PM permalink
Scott Walker, God's Gift to the Democratic Party

http://rol.st/1DivYrN

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He's just a doughy, finger-pointing white guy of the type the Republican Party has been churning out to fill state assembly seats or run in back-bench congressional districts seemingly since the beginning of time. He's exactly the kind of politician the modern Democratic Party is set up to beat.



As a liberal, Scott Walker does not scare me. He will never win. He is a squirrely looking creep who will never be able to beat a democrat (re: Hillary) in important swing states. Bring him on.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:02:40 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Scott Walker will never win a general election. So I too hope you are right.


What makes you say this? He has won the governorship twice, three times if you count a recall election, in a relatively blue state? Personally, I think the GOP's problem in recent elections has been in picking people who are not conservative enough. Evidence shows, when the GOP nominates actual conservatives they win.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:27:17 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

What makes you say this? He has won the governorship twice, three times if you count a recall election, in a relatively blue state? Personally, I think the GOP's problem in recent elections has been in picking people who are not conservative enough. Evidence shows, when the GOP nominates actual conservatives they win.



He not only won, he won when the unions went all-in to defeat him. All of their muscle and he overcame it.

I agree on the GOP losing when they put up a RINO. Notice that the Dems put up a total liberal in 2008 and 2012, yet they won. Even with the USA population of conservatives being twice that of liberals.

Walker is a total sleeper right now. And the libs are scared to death of him.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:36:25 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Walker is a total sleeper right now. And the libs are scared to death of him.



The same way we were "scared" of Sarah Palin....

;)

Also, don't speak for liberals. We've covered this before, when you say "liberals think...," "Liberals say....," etc., the thing you accuse liberals of is always nonsense. Liberals aren't scared of this balding creeper from Minnesota.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:38:21 PM permalink
I always find it odd that every election, the Dems say something along these lines "If the GOP nominates this guy who is a staunch conservative, they have no shot of winning." And the GOP eats it up as if your chief competition is going to be in the business of giving you sage advice to further your success.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:43:46 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

I always find it odd that every election, the Dems say something along these lines "If the GOP nominates this guy who is a staunch conservative, they have no shot of winning." And the GOP eats it up as if your chief competition is going to be in the business of giving you sage advice to further your success.



It's not just the Dems that say that though. It's.... reality.

Deep down, conservatives know that a candidate like Ted Cruz has no chance of winning a general election.

Liberals and conservatives don't matter in a general election. It's the probably less than 5% of the electorate - the truly independent voters, who decide elections. The Ted Cruzes of the world will never appeal to them.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:46:13 PM permalink
Ted Cruz isn't going to win because he is a bad candidate, not because he is conservative. The last person that could even be argued as a conservative the GOP nominated was George W Bush, although that could be argued if you look at the bailouts and his educational policy. Romney and McCain were as RINO as it gets.
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March 24th, 2015 at 12:52:06 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Walker is a total sleeper right now. And the libs are scared to death of him.



I see more column inches on him than other candidates... Cruz now, cos he's come out punching.

I think Walker is an interesting candidate. Hopefully the Republicans can avoid their recent tactic of bloodying up the various candidates before the Democrats get there.

I have no idea who the Democrats can offer right now whose a decent candidate. Hils is not it. She's accumulating baggage, and I think it's time to retire.
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:06:42 PM permalink
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I have no idea who the Democrats can offer right now whose a decent candidate. Hils is not it. She's accumulating baggage, and I think it's time to retire.



I disagree with this premise but there is always Elizabeth Warren...
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:07:34 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

The same way we were "scared" of Sarah Palin....

;)



So all of the attacks were just for practice? The amount of energy expended on her by liberals was the most in recent memory.
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:23:28 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

I have no idea who the Democrats can offer right now whose a decent candidate. Hils is not it. She's accumulating baggage, and I think it's time to retire.



I predict Walker vs Hillary.

And it will be a close election. No landslide either way.

But another 2 months, things could change.
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:28:25 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

So all of the attacks were just for practice? The amount of energy expended on her by liberals was the most in recent memory.



She's an easy target. It's enjoyable to make fun of her. We enjoy when she says stupid things and makes a fool of herself and then tries to blame the media.
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:37:23 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I predict Walker vs Hillary.

And it will be a close election. No landslide either way.

But another 2 months, things could change.



I predict Walker wins versus Clinton ... right now.

I don't think Walker will have a tough run to get the nomination.
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:39:49 PM permalink
It's a much reported fact that Hill has better
poll numbers when she is in hiding. As soon
as she shows her uggo face and opens her
mouth, her numbers go down.

She's really an awful campaigner. She has
little experience at it and is not good at
speaking off the cuff. She was a shoe
in for 2008 and got beat by a better
campaigner. This will happen again.
She just isn't likeable.
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March 24th, 2015 at 1:44:58 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

She's an easy target. It's enjoyable to make fun of her. We enjoy when she says stupid things and makes a fool of herself and then tries to blame the media.



Well, I do feel the same way about Obama but substitute "media" for "GOP" or/and "Fox News."
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March 24th, 2015 at 2:54:07 PM permalink
The right wingers already have a severe case of Clinton derangement syndrome. It will only grow worse as 2016 approaches.

Try to take a step back and live in the real world. Yes, you don't like her. That's understandable. You shouldn't like her.

But the majority of Americans do like her. She is a political force. She will be hard to beat.

Only republicans absorb the FOX News talking points about her. In reality, no one important cares about her email server and Benghazi is a complete nonissue at this point.

Let's not forget how well Hillary did in the swing states in 2008. She even beat Obama in Ohio, and her campaign was basically screwed by that point (and then of course Obama went on to win it in both elections).
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March 24th, 2015 at 3:07:42 PM permalink
I find it odd when people accuse Repbulicans of having an opinion regarding Hillary Clinton solely based upon talking points on Fox News. Do you realize that Hillary Clinton was a national public figure for four full years (5 if you count the campaign) before Fox News aired its fist show, and Fox News did not become the #1 news channel until about 5 years later which was right around 9/11. The fact of the matter is, the reason so many conservatives watch Fox, is there aren't many other options out there. Libs have ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, Comedy Central, PBS, E!, ESPN, CNN and a host of other channels. There are very few "right leaning" media outlets out there.
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April 1st, 2015 at 3:54:08 PM permalink
Sad to see that the mickey crimm got the gavel. That oldtimer was plenty entertaining, hey hey.
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April 1st, 2015 at 4:36:26 PM permalink
Quote: Evenbob

It's a much reported fact that Hill has better
poll numbers when she is in hiding. As soon
as she shows her uggo face and opens her
mouth, her numbers go down.

She's really an awful campaigner. She has
little experience at it and is not good at
speaking off the cuff. She was a shoe
in for 2008 and got beat by a better
campaigner. This will happen again.
She just isn't likeable.



You're right again Evenbob.

Hillary simply isn't attractive enough to be elected president. A little plastic surgery and a more feminine look would help.
She also doesn't seem to have any charisma.
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April 1st, 2015 at 5:00:57 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

You're right again Evenbob.

Hillary simply isn't attractive enough to be elected president. A little plastic surgery and a more feminine look would help.
She also doesn't seem to have any charisma.



Lovin it. Many female voters in Germany voted for Angela Merkel simply due to this attitude.
If only the republican candidates will say the same thing therefore assuring a President Hillary Clinton.
Who's running Germany baby :-)
Keep it coming, pile on, I am just lovin it.
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April 1st, 2015 at 6:06:29 PM permalink
The other problem is that people are tired of the lack of transparency in government. Furthermore, Hillary seems to be even worse than Obama.
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April 1st, 2015 at 6:15:11 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The other problem is that people are tired of the lack of transparency in government. Furthermore, Hillary seems to be even worse than Obama.


People in this country have been sick and tired about about the lack of transparency in government for 200 years. The 45th president will be less transparent than Obama who was less transparent than Bush who was less transparent than Clinton who was less transparent than Bush who was less transparent than Reagan
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April 1st, 2015 at 6:19:17 PM permalink
Another big problem will be dealing with Putin. Does anyone honestly belief that Hillary would have the intellect to stand toe to toe with such a powerful man?

It's not because she's a woman, she just doesn't come across as a world leader.
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April 1st, 2015 at 6:32:14 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Another big problem will be dealing with Putin. Does anyone honestly belief that Hillary would have the intellect to stand toe to toe with such a powerful man?

It's not because she's a woman, she just doesn't come across as a world leader.




The reality is she has a lot of international experience dealing with world leaders.
International experience is something lacking in Republican candidates, especially Governors.
Clinton was Secretary of State, no lack of international experience there.
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April 1st, 2015 at 7:56:51 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

\ A little plastic surgery and a more feminine look would help.
She also doesn't seem to have any charisma.



She has the opposite of charisma, people
just don't like her because she is phony
and disingenuous, and it comes across
when she speaks. Her laugh sounds
like a witches cackle. The Secret
Service hates her because she's mean
and nasty. You can't hide what you
really are from the public, they always
see thru you.
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April 1st, 2015 at 8:09:59 PM permalink
She seems snooty, out of touch with the common people. Another limousine liberal.
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April 1st, 2015 at 8:10:25 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

People in this country have been sick and tired about about the lack of transparency in government for 200 years. The 45th president will be less transparent than Obama who was less transparent than Bush who was less transparent than Clinton who was less transparent than Bush who was less transparent than Reagan



Nailed it, just nailed it
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April 1st, 2015 at 8:10:59 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

He not only won, he won when the unions went all-in to defeat him. All of their muscle and he overcame it.

I agree on the GOP losing when they put up a RINO. Notice that the Dems put up a total liberal in 2008 and 2012, yet they won. Even with the USA population of conservatives being twice that of liberals.

Walker is a total sleeper right now. And the libs are scared to death of him.



He won the recall because people didn't think the recall itself was fair to the elective process, not because people wanted Walker particularly to stay in office. (Some did, but not enough; the election was not overturned because of the swing vote which was based on process fairness.)
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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April 1st, 2015 at 11:03:39 PM permalink
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The reality is she has a lot of international experience dealing with world leaders.

Helicoptering in for cocktail parties and fund-raising for the Clinton family fund do not count in the world of international arms trading, unrestricted terrorists and outright invasions of other countries. As we have all too sharply witnessed. Or should have.
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April 2nd, 2015 at 12:46:43 AM permalink
New Poll Finds 74% Of Americans Would Be Comfortable Blaming Female President For Problems
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April 2nd, 2015 at 2:43:13 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

He won the recall because people didn't think the recall itself was fair to the elective process, not because people wanted Walker particularly to stay in office. (Some did, but not enough; the election was not overturned because of the swing vote which was based on process fairness.)



So you are saying they wanted him in 2010 and 2014 but they only voted for him in 2012 because of "fairness?"

He won three times in a blue state. He could win nationally.
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April 2nd, 2015 at 9:33:05 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

He won the recall because people didn't think the recall itself was fair to the elective process,



Yeah that's the ticket. Worked great for Gray Davis too. People just hate recalls...
That's the ticket.
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April 2nd, 2015 at 9:46:58 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

The reality is she has a lot of international experience dealing with world leaders.
International experience is something lacking in Republican candidates, especially Governors.
Clinton was Secretary of State, no lack of international experience there.


The only reason Clinton was given the Secretary of State job was so she would be out of the country 200 days a year.
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April 2nd, 2015 at 12:51:19 PM permalink
Women should not be allowed to vote or hold public office! An that is all I have to say about that, hey hey.
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April 2nd, 2015 at 4:15:05 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

Women should not be allowed to vote or hold public office! An that is all I have to say about that, hey hey.



People that cannot post in proper English should not be able to vote or hold public office.
Starting a sentence with An, you just failed.
Hey hey, facepalm.

1950 is calling, they want you back.

Eating my popcorn watching Indiana and Arkansas do the flip flop of the century.
Mike Pence for President, lol, he cant even govern a state.
The odds for Pence, a billion to one.
Even re-election as governor, a billion to one. No votes on the left, the religious right doesn't trust him after changing the bill, CEO's of major Indiana Corporations don't trust him because he did not repeal the bill.
What a flip flop, now he is personally calling Gen Con gaming convention organizers which supports gays, begging them to still hold their convention in Indy.
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