Decision 2012

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Fact check: President Obama lays claim to peace dividend that doesn't exist during DNC speech

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More fun fact checking from Associated Press

Yet more fact checking with the Washington Post

I can't wait to see the responses to these articles. They are actually worse for President Obama than I thought they would be...

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Fact check: President Obama lays claim to peace dividend that doesn't exist during DNC speech

Read more

More fun fact checking from Associated Press

Yet more fact checking with the Washington Post

I can't wait to see the responses to these articles. They are actually worse for President Obama than I thought they would be...

Yeah, but didn't someone on the board say something about Bin Laden still being dead?


BTW: 4 times as many people quit looking for jobs last month than new jobs were created. How long until one person working supports the entire nation? Any math guys here want to do a "fun" projection assuming no dynamics?

People correctly criticize Obama for promising much yet delivering little.

Fair enough; Mel Brooks may have said "It's good to be the King!", but it's a damned tough act to pull off successfully.

Romney is a cold fish: a wooden, somewhat out of touch rich kid; he seems not to have a clear plan.

For him to succeed, he'll need to surround himself with capable people, learn to lead and hope for luck.

To me, neither is optimal, or really palatable.

As a people we really should offer up better candidates than this.

Bah.

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To me, neither is optimal, or really palatable.

As a people we really should offer up better candidates than this.

Bah.

If you have ever had to hire someone to fill a job you know that after you make your dram-list of qualifications in the end you have to hire who walks in and applys. This is true from a person who mops the floor right up to POTUS.

I think Romney has good leadership expedrience and knows how to lead a team. Obama never had to do anything but campaign, which is why we see the results we are seeing.

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Romney ...somewhat out of touch rich kid; .

This is definitely the impression a fair number of people have of him- whether it's really true or not is debatable but not the point of my question- which is: why does that matter to people? Is the thinking that he has to have experienced certain problems in order to spearhead productive policy changes? Or that if he "isn't one of us" then he "won't give us free stuff?" Frankly, I want someone who's not the average Joe or Jane, for that matter- and I could care less if they relate to me. But I do care about solving the country's unemployment and debt problems and the state of the economy. Is being rich a negative toward doing those things?

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This is definitely the impression a fair number of people have of him- whether it's really true or not is debatable but not the point of my question- which is: why does that matter to people? Is the thinking that he has to have experienced certain problems in order to spearhead productive policy changes? Or that if he "isn't one of us" then he "won't give us free stuff?" Frankly, I want someone who's not the average Joe or Jane, for that matter- and I could care less if they relate to me. But I do care about solving the country's unemployment and debt problems and the state of the economy. Is being rich a negative toward doing those things?

What I do not get is you keep hearing Obama brag about how much money he has and makes (Hilary and other Dems as well) yet they are not thought of as "out of touch rich guys (gals.)"

Why is this?

Because they aren't out of touch, just rich

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What I do not get is you keep hearing Obama brag about how much money he has and makes (Hilary and other Dems as well) yet they are not thought of as "out of touch rich guys (gals.)"

Why is this?

There seems to be a threshold after which point, you're "too rich"- unless you're someone like Warren Buffet but you get the picture...

In the top-ten wealthiest of Congress, 7 are Democrats. Kerry's loaded. Pelosi's loaded. And I don't care that they are, but man, what a double-standard...

When you tell a person whose home is flooded from hurricane Isaac to go home and call 211 for help, that promotes the belief that you're out of touch. When you tell NASCAR fans in clear plastic rain gear that it looks like they sure spent a fortune on their rain gear, it makes you look a bit out if touch. I could go on.