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EvenBob
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March 17th, 2012 at 8:04:08 PM permalink
A recent article says 40% of Americans steal from
the hotel rooms they stay in. The faves are towels,
robes, batteries, sheets. Batteries? Are we that
desperate that we have to steal batteries? I'm not
a Boy Scout, but its always seemed childish and
beneath me. Whats the point of it.
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March 17th, 2012 at 8:23:41 PM permalink
40% have stolen or 40% steal?

I was once coaching a team where two of my high school athletes stole pillows from the room for the bus ride home. We made them pay for the stolen property as well as apologize to the hotel in writing. They were just being young teenagers and didn't think things through.

If it is 40% have stolen from hotels, these two girls would fit the bill. If it 40% of all hotel occupants steal, I am quite surprised.
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March 17th, 2012 at 8:36:51 PM permalink
I confess that when I'm in a foreign country I haven't visited before I'll take one of the hotel "do not disturb" signs to add to my collections. FrG, how much time in Purgatory do I get for each one? However, I never take anything else. I don't even feel comfortable about taking a pen, unless I really need it.
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March 17th, 2012 at 8:42:01 PM permalink
I thought they want you to take the pens. Sort of like free advertising? But besides the shampoo if it's nice or a pen if it's nice, then no.
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March 17th, 2012 at 8:49:25 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I thought they want you to take the pens. Sort of like free advertising? But besides the shampoo if it's nice or a pen if it's nice, then no.



I steal pens, paper, shampoo (although I hate hotel shampoo...so this one is a wash)..

I've never stolen towel, as I think hotel towels are not very soft. I remember my family went on vacation with anothe family, who would steal things like towels.

I think it would be pretty difficult to really steal anything else...especially without getting caught.
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March 17th, 2012 at 8:57:31 PM permalink
I think part of it is TV and movies fault. You see it all
the time, portrayed as a victimless crime. The hotel
is the victim, of course, and they just hike the prices
to cover theft. Its something I understand in kids
in their 20's, but whats the motive in your 40's? You
can afford to stay there but you can't afford towels
and batteries at home?
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:07:37 PM permalink
We steal shampoos and soaps. We actually don't steal them. We take what we don't use home with us and ask the maids for extras. I haven't bought a bar of soap in over three years (no, I'm not dirty, but we have aboug 120 small bars of soap in our collection). It's a reminder of our stays over the year. We don't steel anything of value. We also take the pen. My wife likes to take the rest of the kleenex and even took toilet paper once.
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:09:59 PM permalink
Battery from the remote?
Toilet Paper?
Facial Tissues?
Notepads?
Coffee packets?
Bottles of Glop and Gook?
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:11:10 PM permalink
The complimentary stuff like soap isn't
stealing. A lot of people take things like
light bulbs and clock radios and they used
to steal all the wooden hangers until
somebody invented a way they couldn't.
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:14:00 PM permalink
If that's the case, then yeah, we've never purposefully stolen from a hotel room.
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:18:27 PM permalink
Is taking the bible, if you are taking it with the intent to read it, stealing? I'm guessing the Gideons would be okay with it.
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:35:31 PM permalink
The Gideons encourage you to take the copy. I think it's on the cover or just inside of it.
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:35:31 PM permalink
Quote: MarieBicurie

Is taking the bible, if you are taking it with the intent to read it, stealing? I'm guessing the Gideons would be okay with it.



Maybe not. But what's the point?

Anyway, I will sometimes take a note pad and a pen, but only if I need them. If there are envelopes, I'll sometimes take one to put receipts in. Also, I collect, half-heartedly, the tiny bottles of body lotion found in hotels. But since those are meant to be used I don't think I'm actually stealing them.
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March 17th, 2012 at 9:42:42 PM permalink
It's okay to steal a Gideon.

Quote: MSNBC


“We’ll likely reach the 2 billion mark within the next few years,” said Gideon International spokesman Woody Murray, from the old Bridgestone-Firestone headquarters in Nashville, Tenn., the organization has occupied since 2003 (tours available).

Each Bible costs the Gideons about $5.

Operating purely on donations, with no advertising or vast Internet outreach...

Bibles and pocket-sized New Testaments are given away to hotels, motels, prisons and hospitals at a rate of 2.5 every second of every day — 1.5 million per week — with the hope that souls are bound to be saved.

'Take the Bible, not the towels'
They are spiritual staples of nearly every hotel room and the only item guests are invited to steal.

“We don’t mind that at all,” said Murray. “Our statistics show one-quarter of all travelers will read the Bible in the hotel rooms and each Bible has the potential to reach 2,300 people over its six-year life expectancy.”

So Bible theft isn’t a sin?

“Not at all,” Murray said. “We often get notes in the mail with a contribution from someone saying, ‘Sorry, I took the Bible, but it saved my life.’ Take the Bible, not the towels.”

They'll be replaced. Take the Greenbrier, a luxury resort in White Sulphur Springs, W.Va. "The Greenbrier has Gideon Bibles in every room and keeps a stack handy to replace the 25 to 50 each year that are removed by guests," said resort spokesperson Lynn Swann.

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March 17th, 2012 at 9:56:17 PM permalink
I always take the soaps pens and pads of paper but that's about it. I don't think I would call that stealing, the soap was provided for me to use, and using the pens and note pads is free advertising. Never taken anything of real value, though I often check the brands of the pillows if they are comfortable.
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March 17th, 2012 at 10:03:15 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Maybe not. But what's the point?

Anyway, I will sometimes take a note pad and a pen, but only if I need them. If there are envelopes, I'll sometimes take one to put receipts in. Also, I collect, half-heartedly, the tiny bottles of body lotion found in hotels. But since those are meant to be used I don't think I'm actually stealing them.



Cheap hotels spend less than a dollar on shampoos and soaps only cost the hotel. Some people even encourage you to steal them and give them to the local homeless shelter. Pens and stationary are usually advertisements.

Conditioning Shampoo, .25 OZ PACKETS 500 for $59 or 12 cents apiece
Conditioning Shampoo, .75 OZ Boston Round Bottles 288 $78.88 or 27 cents apiece

Expensive hotels can spend up to $50 per room on high end bath products. The hotel owners pass that cost on in the hotel room price. But the manufacturers of the quality products consider it good advertising and sell for close to cost. They get a lot of long term customers who first try a product in a pricy hotel room.

In a similar manner both beds, sheets, and bedspreads are now sold to hotel room guests. Ritz Carlton sells their mattresses and box spring sets for up to $2000 for king size. So the hotel stay is partly advertising for these products.
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March 18th, 2012 at 1:19:35 AM permalink
This reminds me of a complaint to a hotel manager I once heard about:

"Your towels are too big and thick. I couldn't close the lid on my suitcase."
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March 18th, 2012 at 1:38:16 AM permalink
After loading up everything that isnt nailed down,
i like to track down housekeeping and raid the supply of goodies on the cart.
I never take anything that could be billed to the cc,
but i have been tempted to take the clock radio a few times...
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March 18th, 2012 at 3:59:48 AM permalink
I like to promote Natalie Tran whenever I can, because I watch her videos over and over. Here is one on this topic: Free Stuff is Better.
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March 18th, 2012 at 4:01:37 AM permalink
I always "steal" the little bath products.

I assume that health department regulations would require that they be thrown away when a guest checks out, even if unopened. If that assumption is true, then it isn't stealing.

I will sometimes wrap my wet toothbrush in one of those little hand towels when packing.

Other than that, I don't take anything.

On the other hand, I can't stand hotel hangers that can't be removed from the rod. As a result, I often bring a half dozen wire hangers and leave them behind.


Quote: boymimbo/MSNBC

Our statistics show one-quarter of all travelers will read the Bible in the hotel rooms.

25%? I find that hard to believe.
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March 18th, 2012 at 4:48:49 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

]25%? I find that hard to believe.



With the poor programming of television and usually only about 20 channels, then of course people turn to the Bible... ;)

Taking the toiletries, as EvenBob has pointed out, is NOT stealing, so I think from this point on we can safely assume that nearly everybody takes those. I used to take the toiletries home, but lately, unless it's a product I really like, I tend to leave them. Harrah's hotels (and I do mean JUST Harrah's) used to have an oatmeal soap that exfoliated like none other. I would load up on those, but they have since switched to a cheap Gilchrist and Soames product that leaves my skin feeling soapy, so I don't even bother.

As far as other things, I have never taken anything intentionally. One time, when in a rush to pack, I did accidentally pick up one of the wash cloths. I agree with a previous poster that hotel towels are pretty worthless. I love how some hotels now advertise in the room how if you like the stuff you can take it, at such an inflated price it will totally discourage you from stealing anything. Nicer hotels have amazing bathrobes though, so if you don't mind spending $120 for something you can easily get for $50, it might be worth it for that.
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March 18th, 2012 at 5:41:18 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

25%? I find that hard to believe.



"Would you believe 10%?"
"I don't think so."
"How about two bored geeks and a priest?"

Anyway, I know someone who works for a small company that makes hotel toiletries. They're cheap because 1) they're small and 2) not of very good quality. Some high end places do stock high quality toiletries, often of known or chic brand names.

When I travel I bring along my own shampoo, conditioner and body lotion. Those at hotels are just plain no good. Soap, on the other hand, is just soap. Just about any kind will clean equally well. Some exfoliating kinds are different.
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March 18th, 2012 at 6:12:58 AM permalink
I am always tempted to take the Gideon Bible and replace it with a better one.

I agree with a comedian I heard once who said he always steals those hangers the hotel gives you that are useless anywhere else. The reason is that if they think so lowly of me that I will steal their hangers than I will just live up to their expectations. It is like a self fulfilling prophecy, treat people like they are going to steal stuff and they might actually do it.

Anyway Wizard I don't think your thefts will add to your time in hotel purgatory but you may be disturbed often by the cleaning crew coming into your room.
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March 18th, 2012 at 6:22:09 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

but i have been tempted to take the clock radio a few times...

Ain't never been tempted to take the clock/radio/CD player but sure have been tempted to smash it to smithereens at 4:37am when it suddenly goes off due to the previous tenant or the previous tenant's little brat.
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March 18th, 2012 at 6:59:29 AM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

I am always tempted to take the Gideon Bible and replace it with a better one.


Great idea, think I'll start replacing the ones in my rooms with copies of the Tao Te Ching. I just need a catchy name for my new NPO...perhaps the Laozi-deons.

Or maybe the Friends of Pooh, but it would probably be taken the wrong way.


I take soap only. As Nareed states, the shampoo/conditioner is not normally that high of quality, and I do not like traveling with liquids since I never check baggage, and it's a pain to take them out at security (yes, that means I always buy toothpaste at my destination and then abandon it). The soap comes in handy, I still have some Sahara soap that was of surprisingly high quality.
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March 18th, 2012 at 7:01:22 AM permalink
I take the note pads as souvenirs and use them at my desk at home. I don't get the pens, because I am a fountain pen fan. I think I remember stealing a towel from the hotel on my high school senior class trip to NYC -- the Taft Hotel was still fairly decent in those days. I don't recall whatever became of the towel -- my mother probably threw it out. I have trouble imagining a sane adult taking furnishings from a hotel room.

It is indeed a point of humor in films: Eddie Murphy reporting he had two Beverly Palms Hotel bathrobes in his duffel bag in "Beverly Hills Cop" or George Cloony/Danny Ocean saying to Andy Garcia/Terry Benedict, "So I should put the towels back?" in the "Ocean's Eleven" remake.

Quote: FrGamble

... a comedian I heard once who said he always steals those hangers the hotel gives you that are useless anywhere else.

Didn't I see that in a Gallagher video?
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March 18th, 2012 at 7:32:51 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

I have trouble imagining a sane adult taking furnishings from a hotel room.

Ditto.

Except, as I commented in one of my trip logs, in one hotel room (I forget where), they had an iron that was tethered to the closet wall, as well as hooks to hang an ironing board. The board was missing.

How do you steal an ironing board?
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March 18th, 2012 at 7:34:34 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear


How do you steal an ironing board?



I don't know, but I bet the casino was steamed about losing it... Doesn't seem like they were pressed to replace it.
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March 18th, 2012 at 8:04:23 AM permalink
I got such a kick out of this sign at a place last year, I snapped a pic:

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March 18th, 2012 at 8:06:41 AM permalink
Quote: progrocker

I take soap only. As Nareed states, the shampoo/conditioner is not normally that high of quality, and I do not like traveling with liquids since I never check baggage, and it's a pain to take them out at security (yes, that means I always buy toothpaste at my destination and then abandon it).



I always check baggage :) Except when I'm returning the same day or the next day. In that case I can pack everything into a carry on. If the bottles are too big to go past security, simply buy small, generic plastic containers and pour the shampoo and conditioner in them. For toothpaste there are "travel" sizes available. I carry one in my bag at all times.

Quote:

The soap comes in handy, I still have some Sahara soap that was of surprisingly high quality.



I stayed at the Sahara in '08. The soap then was pretty ordinary.
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March 18th, 2012 at 8:14:25 AM permalink
Quote: FrGamble

Anyway Wizard I don't think your thefts will add to your time in hotel purgatory but you may be disturbed often by the cleaning crew coming into your room.



Please don't mention to the man upstairs that I hate soft mattresses, which cheap hotels are notorious for. I think if he has a sense of humor then the room I end up with in Hotel Purgatory will have one that wasn't replaced in centuries.

Regarding the used stuff, does anyone know for sure what they do with it? For example a bar of soap was is still 90% intact or an opened lotion bottle.
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March 18th, 2012 at 8:17:47 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Regarding the used stuff, does anyone know for sure what they do with it? For example a bar of soap was is still 90% intact or an opened lotion bottle.



I've always assumed the housekeeping staff takes them. Soap's a bit iffy for some people, but the bottled products can easily be poured into larger containers and used at home.
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March 18th, 2012 at 8:24:54 AM permalink
Quote: progrocker

yes, that means I always buy toothpaste at my destination and then abandon it.

That can be the most efficient way with many items, however, they do sell toothpaste now in these flat one-portion travel packets as well as in the ultra small tubes that fit inside the collapsible toothbrush.

Traveling light makes sense in a day of security-screening and excess baggage charges as well as Checked Baggage delays. So its best to not have much with you.
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March 18th, 2012 at 8:43:36 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Soap's a bit iffy for some people,



Can't they melt the thousands of bars guests leave behind together, and make new bars?
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March 18th, 2012 at 8:54:36 AM permalink
I will admit, when I was in college, I stole a few rolls of nice, soft toilet paper for casino hotels when we would go down for the weekend. It was like gold back then!
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March 18th, 2012 at 9:05:17 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

Expensive hotels can spend up to $50 per room on high end bath products.



I'm skeptical of this number. Even the 5 star hotels don't give away BIG bottles of shampoo, they're always small. I just can't see bottles that small costing $50.
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March 18th, 2012 at 9:26:51 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard


Regarding the used stuff, does anyone know for sure what they do with it? For example a bar of soap was is still 90% intact or an opened lotion bottle.



Usually it goes to the trash. When I lived in the U.S as an interchange student my roomate used to work at Hilton as a housekeeper and he would bring home intact supplies like soap, shower gel, shampoo/conditioner - but mint. Everything that was more than touched or barely used would go to the trash. Specially at upscale properties everything is changed. The toilet paper remainning used to be exchanged as well.
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March 18th, 2012 at 1:37:29 PM permalink
Quote: reno

I'm skeptical of this number. Even the 5 star hotels don't give away BIG bottles of shampoo, they're always small. I just can't see bottles that small costing $50.



I took the number from ABC news: Hotels Clean Up On Soap, Shampoo Freebies.





These are the prices being offered on a hotel amenities web site for high end products.
500ML / 16.9 0Z. SHEA HAND/BODY LOTION 8
500ML / 16.9 0Z. SHEA SHAMPOO 8
500ML / 16.9 0Z. SHEA CONDITIONER 8
500ML / 16.9 0Z. SHEA MILK SHOWER CREAM 8
500ML / 16.9 0Z. METALLIC WALL BRACKET 2
100G / 3.5 0Z. VERBENA SHEA BUTTER BODY SOAP 100G 36
50G / 1.7 0Z. MILK SHEA BUTTER FACE SOAP 50G 84
50G / 1.7 0Z. VERBENA SHEA BUTTER BODY SOAP 50G 84


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I would think that most inexpensive hotels dispose of the bath products in the rooms that are not used by hotel guests. If the shampoo is 25 cents apiece, then it would be cheaper than inspecting them to see if some sociopathic previous guest has tampered with the contents. Similarly, I am sure that the tiny towels are washed and replaced even if they look unused.

Raiding the carts for bath products is bad manners.
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March 18th, 2012 at 2:18:17 PM permalink
Standard toothpaste comes in 75ml (3 oz tubes) which are allowable in your 1 quart zippie. You can also buy small shaving creams (50ml) that will pass security in the baggie.

If you are staying anywhere 3* and above, the front desk will have amenity kits where you can usually get a cheapo toothpaste, toothbrush, comb, shaving cream, and razor for free. There are plenty of people who forget and there are plenty of people who show up at hotels when the airline loses their luggage (airlines also have an amenity kit -- if you ever lose your luggage, ask for one).
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March 18th, 2012 at 3:30:45 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

How do you steal an ironing board?

Why does one steal an ironing board? Its not likely to be fenced for all that much, has to be transported to a vehicle and most people who buy stolen goods would have few people they have to iron a shirt for: their parole officer?
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March 19th, 2012 at 1:05:11 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Why does one steal an ironing board? Its not likely to be fenced for all that much, has to be transported to a vehicle and most people who buy stolen goods would have few people they have to iron a shirt for: their parole officer?



More likely it was broken and not replaced (yet.... ever?)
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March 19th, 2012 at 1:57:47 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Can't they melt the thousands of bars guests leave behind together, and make new bars?



I think I once saw something where some group saved the part-used soaps, melting them together for the homeless or god knows what.

I am glad to see someone else takes the DND signs. It may still be weird, but I am not alone.

I will admit that in the first out of college job I had I took towels. Mostly for the sport of taking them. Later I took one wooden hanger at a time in places that had them. Nicest in my collection? "Bally's" in AC. I haven't done this nonsense in over 10 years.

I think I admitted it here before, but one time the Coca-Cola machine in the hotel kept issuing credits, then ejecting the bill. Then I hit coin release and got the credit amount! Since they never remembered to give my my priority-guest goodie pack (stayed 20+ nights per year) I consider them still ahead.
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March 19th, 2012 at 2:20:27 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I think I once saw something where some group saved the part-used soaps, melting them together for the homeless or god knows what. .



I read you can take a bunch of the little soaps
you get from hotels and put them in a plastic
bowl with a little water, heat in the micro till
melted, let sit for a day and you have an
excellent liquid soap you can fill a dispenser
with. Good idea.
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March 19th, 2012 at 2:32:14 PM permalink
There was a company that collected unused and partially used soaps and turned them into laundry detergent, which was sold back to the hotels.

Hmm, can't find a link to them, but here's "Clean the world" that is working in Vegas to make soap from the left overs :

http://cleantheworld.org/operations.asp

And why not?
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March 19th, 2012 at 3:23:20 PM permalink
I usually take the small toiletries, but I have an excuse; one of my supervisors at work is involved in a program that collects them and sends them to armed forces personnel overseas.
travisl
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March 22nd, 2012 at 2:57:56 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

I got such a kick out of this sign at a place last year, I snapped a pic



You should have just taken the sign. It's free.
P90
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March 22nd, 2012 at 3:45:25 PM permalink
When I travel and it's not by car, I travel light. [The hardest part is actually convincing your companion to travel light.] So I don't have the space to take anything that I don't immediately need, or, more precisely, any intention to provide that space.

I really don't understand taking a half-empty bottle of shampoo (even if I had a direct use for it), unless the next place you're going to stay at isn't going to have any.
[If the bottle costs $50 retail, you're probably staying at a $5,000 place. The heck?]
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zippyboy
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March 22nd, 2012 at 5:39:00 PM permalink
Here's what I have in stock:



I haven't bought shampoo or soap in a store in many many years.
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progrocker
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March 22nd, 2012 at 6:01:53 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I am glad to see someone else takes the DND signs.



I'm not. At both the Flamingo and P Ho there is such a shortage of them that other people stole them right off my door to use themselves (or perhaps they're just inconsiderate and want to take them home as well, couldn't find one in their room). Taking them as 'souvenirs' is pretty idiotic and I imagine that at least 90% of them taken for that purpose just end up as trash within a year.
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EvenBob
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March 22nd, 2012 at 8:08:14 PM permalink
The DND sign gets stolen so often when I put
it on the door that I close the door on it now
and just part of the sign is sticking out so they
can't steal it.
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