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March 20th, 2012 at 10:53:02 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I don't recall seeing the radiating lines on other chips, but I also don't recall having any BJ products in my small collection. Is this design feature common for BJ chips?

If you check this page at the Gaming Partners web site, the Roulette chip near the bottom of the page has those radial lines. I have at least one more (non-roulette) chip in my collection that is that design, and I will try to remember to point it out when we get there in about a month. There may be others that I have.

Yes, the shell appears to be a drawing, as does the plant. I don't think the lack of sharp edges on the colors is so much a quality defect as it is a "soft" style of artwork. I think you will find that the graphic in tomorrow's chip carries this "soft" image theme even further when they could have used an actual photograph.
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March 20th, 2012 at 12:18:40 PM permalink
I think I'm going to start a collection of my own. Not chips, though. I'm thinking about dice. I want to get a pair or set of craps dice from places I play at. Of course this means buying them at the hotel's gift shop. We'll see if I remember it next May :)
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March 20th, 2012 at 1:17:03 PM permalink
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I think I'm going to start a collection of my own. Not chips, though. I'm thinking about dice.


Think about that for a minute. Sure, you'll have something unique, but that's because, generally, nobody WANTS dice.

There is a beauty and history to chips. There's nothing beautiful about dice that have the name or simplified logo stamped into one side, serial number on another, and have holes drilled into them.
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March 20th, 2012 at 1:29:54 PM permalink
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Think about that for a minute. Sure, you'll have something unique, but that's because, generally, nobody WANTS dice.



I do.

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There is a beauty and history to chips. There's nothing beautiful about dice that have the name or simplified logo stamped into one side, serial number on another, and have holes drilled into them.



Oh, no question. When I developed a breif interest in numismatics, it was generally the bills that were much more interesting than the coins.

But I'm just not very interested in chips. So as a means of having a souvenir from the places I play at, dice make sense.
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March 20th, 2012 at 2:53:01 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

... But I'm just not very interested in chips. So as a means of having a souvenir from the places I play at, dice make sense.



Be advised that for security purposes, many casinos do not offer their, "game used" dice for sale, so your collection may not be capable of completion. The nice thing about chips and tokens is that they will be found at just about every joint, and they each have a unique appearance.
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March 20th, 2012 at 3:16:25 PM permalink
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I'm just not very interested in chips.


It's hard to guess what will interest folks. To be honest, I'm surprised at the lack of comments about chips that say BJ right on them, but maybe that little quirk doesn't interest many.
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March 20th, 2012 at 3:26:45 PM permalink
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It's hard to guess what will interest folks. To be honest, I'm surprised at the lack of comments about chips that say BJ right on them, but maybe that little quirk doesn't interest many.



It is interesting.

Did you know some old Mexican notes say "American Banknote Company" on the bottom? They were printed by said company, sometimes until the 1970s. Many people thought at the time the notes were made by the US government. And naturally they either printed too few or too many in order to destabilize the Mexican economy.

It is interesting in that sense.
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March 21st, 2012 at 6:48:15 AM permalink
State: Nevada
City: Las Vegas
Casino: Bally's


Today's chip brings us back to Las Vegas, and presents a couple of things for discussion.

First, my photography is again exhibiting a problem with a color shift. The words "Bally's" and "Las Vegas" and the "$1" designation on the chip are really in a very dark blue or maybe a black. In my photos, they look a bit brownish. Also, the pale background of the image is much more distinctly a light blue on the chip, not nearly so faded as in the photo.

When I posted my photo of the Aliante Station chip last week, it was pointed out that it looked dirty rather than bright white. That's when I acknowledged that the real color of medium/dark gray in that chip was not reproduced well in the photo. I went back and tried to take a better photo but got the same results. I initially formed the impression that the color looked much different under the halogen lamp I was using for illumination of the shot than it does under my standard room lamps, so I was ready to place blame there. I checked with my wife, but she didn't really agree. She said the halogen lighting washed the gray out a bit but did not give it (to her eyes) the brownish cast that was evident in that photo and which appears again in the photo of the Bally's chip.

My only guess on the photography problem now is that the +4 close-up lens that I am using to make these photos is to blame for the color shift. As I commented in this thread yesterday, I just bought a set of +1, +2, +4, and +10 Vivitar "Series 1" lenses specifically to photograph my chips. That's a reasonably good brand, but I got the set awfully cheap, so they may not have the quality I would like. I think I will just put up with them and report when I notice a photo that doesn't match the real color very well. As some guy once said, "That's my story, and I'm sticking to it."

Also, it is evident that this chip advertises both Bally's and Paris. This is not quite the same situation as the Aladdin/Planet Hollywood chip that I described a few days back when zippy asked how we had bypassed Aladdin. In this case, Bally's and Paris operate under a single casino license, or at least they did, even though their gaming rooms are maybe 200 yards apart and connected by a hallway or shopping/entertainment mall.

At the time I collected my souvenir chips from those establishments, they were using the same series of chips in both rooms. This side of the chip emphasizes Bally's and has an illustration of a showgirl from their long-running "Jubilee", but it also has the script "Paris" logo at the bottom. The other side of the chip emphasizes Paris and includes an illustration of the Eiffel Tower but also says "Bally's." I have two identical chips of this type and display them with opposite faces up. The artwork is a style I referred to yesterday as "soft," even though they could have easily had a photo of a showgirl with the text on top.

The chip is smooth all over, and on the very edge it is printed with "$1" just as the Arizona Charlie's East chip had the casino name printed on the edge. I assume the same manufacturing process was used, but I don't know who made this chip, and I cannot identify any manufacturer's logo on it.

Way back 16 months ago in this thread, I made reference to an NGC reg that says, "The manufacturer’s name or a distinctive logo or other mark identifying the manufacturer must be inscribed on at least one side of each chip and token …." I said I had never seen a manufacturer's name or logo on a chip and asked for help with this. As I reported yesterday, I am now aware of the "BJ" logo on some chips, and I am aware of manufacturer's designs like the top hat and cane, but there are still a lot of chips for which I can see nothing to identify who made it. That is the case with this Bally's/Paris chip. It has the expected names/logos for the casinos, but nothing I can see about the manufacturer.

The Paris sample is roughly 75 chips in the future on this thread, so you will get to see that side of it posted here in a few months. (Now don't anybody rush that!) In the interim, I have two trips planned, including WoVCon][, so I won't be able to post a chip photo every day.


Edit 4/4/12: Chip manufacturer identified as Chipco and chip finish as Satin.



Edit 3/28/12: I have just received from rdw4potus the links to some images of his chips from casinos that I have already passed in this thread. Thanks, rdw! I am editing my posts to include his images, such as this one:

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March 21st, 2012 at 7:00:41 AM permalink
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Also, it is evident that this chip advertises both Bally's and Paris. This is not quite the same situation as the Aladdin/Planet Hollywood chip that I described a few days back when zippy asked how we had bypassed Aladdin. In this case, Bally's and Paris operate under a single casino license, or at least they did, even though their gaming rooms are maybe 200 yards apart and connected by a hallway or shopping/entertainment mall.

At the time I collected my souvenir chips from those establishments, they were using the same series of chips in both rooms.



Doc, when in Vegas for WoVCon, you will have to visit Bally's and Paris again, as the casino licenses got separated and they now each have separate chips.

Bally's new chips are white, as opposed to Paris which has the standard blue chip. If I could figure out a way to upload a picture, I would.
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March 21st, 2012 at 7:41:25 AM permalink
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... Bally's and Paris ... now each have separate chips.

Thanks for the info Tiltpoul. I may go back to Bally's and Paris but not to get new chips. I suspected that they might have changed chips by now, as many of the other casinos represented in my collection may have, but I'm not trying to collect a chip from each series that has been issued. I think it would be an overwhelming task to try to keep current, and I'm not at all sure I'm even up to gathering one chip from each casino. If I hinted to my wife that I wanted to go back to every casino that had changed chip design, I'd wind up sleeping in a tent. She is moderately tolerant of my chip-gathering excursions to new casinos, and I think she will put up with my going back to casinos that have changed names. But just for a new chip style? I'm not willing to take that chance.

Of course, I would prefer to have originally collected chips that just said "Bally's" on one and "Paris" on the other, but that's not the way it worked out.

If you have the new, white, Bally's chip, please post a photo of it now. And when this thread gets to Paris, post a photo of the blue one.

Edit: I just re-read your post and saw your comment that you don't know how to post a photo. If no one else here offers to post a pic of the new Bally's chip, and if you have a way to upload/host a photo somewhere on the net, then I can give advice on how to get it to show up here. I use my own web domain to host the photos I post, but others are using different hosts. I know some have used Photobucket, but I have no experience there and can't give advice.

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