mr jjjjjjjjjj is ahead for life......
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I don't think it is a down with you thread. I think it is a put your money where your mouth is..... nothing wrong with that.
Stop playing the victim card.
Quote: mrjjjActually I did ("the very FACT that you continue hounding me")
Actually, it's not. I asked what you originally considered an attack.
Example: Here is my original post:
Quote: YoDiceRoll11I don't think it is a down with you thread. I think it is a put your money where your mouth is..... nothing wrong with that.
Stop playing the victim card.
And than you said shouldn't everyone show proof. And than I agreed with you. I don't see how this is attacking you. So what exactly, originally, not now, did you consider an attack.......
Quote:BTW, you never answered me, waiting.
Actually, I did. I'll even quote it for you.
Quote: mrjjjYou never did answer....did you choose my name out of a hat for tonight?
Quote: YoDiceRoll11No I did not.
Quote: mrjjjYour first post on this thread directed to me. >>>
I don't think it is a down with you thread. I think it is a put your money where your mouth is..... nothing wrong with that.
Stop playing the victim card.
And you thought I was attacking you? Ok.... fair enough. I was trying to defend you, by saying it isn't a down with you thread. And than I said it was a put your money where your mouth was thread, which you and I both agreed on.
So you got defensive by me saying you shouldn't play the victim card.....wow. I thought you had thicker skin than that.
Quote: YoDiceRoll11And you thought I was attacking you? Ok.... fair enough. I was trying to defend you, by saying it isn't a down with you thread. And than I said it was a put your money where your mouth was thread, which you and I both agreed on.
So you got defensive by me saying you shouldn't play the victim card.....wow. I thought you had thicker skin than that.
Wrong, this isn't my first rodeo. ANY PERSON can spot someone purposely posting towards CERTAIN members and WHY they are posting, this isn't tough to see. I've knocked posters just like you off to the side while cutting my toe tails, you're not that good at this, you dont have the stomache for it. Not to mention, you make me look damn good everytime you CONTINUE to engage me. I look more right and you....well, you look like a bully. Let me guess, under 26?
Ken
Why don't you go play some wheel and give this a rest?
Quote: WongBoActual mrjj you seem like a person who is just padding his post count.
Why don't you go play some wheel and give this a rest?
I was waiting for that. No, no, no......if I get 251 posts in regards to me, you'll get 251 in return. How is this not fair? I thought this was the famous math board? (lol)
Ken
Quote: mrjjjWrong, this isn't my first rodeo. ANY PERSON can spot someone purposely posting towards CERTAIN members and WHY they are posting,
What? Than why am I posting? What's your analysis. Because all I was trying to do was explain that people shouldn't attack you.
Quote:I've knocked posters just like you off to the side while cutting my toe tails
...... ok.
Quote:you're not that good at this, you dont have the stomache for it.
????
Quote:Not to mention, you make me look damn good everytime you CONTINUE to engage me.
If you say so I guess....I didn't think it was a contest, but I guess it is for you.
Quote:I look more right and you....well, you look like a bully. Let me guess, under 26?
Bully? I tried saying that the rules should apply equally, to everyone, including you. Remember? How is that being a bully? Like I said, you actually sound paranoid.
Quote: YoDiceRoll11What? Than why am I posting? What's your analysis. Because all I was trying to do was explain that people shouldn't attack you.
...... ok.
????
If you say so I guess....I didn't think it was a contest, but I guess it is for you.
Bully? I tried saying that the rules should apply equally, to everyone, including you. Remember? How is that being a bully? Like I said, you actually sound paranoid.
Real simple, why are you not on other threads giving someone else a hard time? Simple question.
Ken (1,160)
;)
Ken
Quote: MarieBicurieWhere is the "Ken is JerryLogan" option?
Where is the "MarieBicurie is JerryLogan" option?
(You're no female, I just love the internet)
Ken
Quote: SOOPOOAs the OP here... I am actually stunned that around a quarter of us believe Ken is ahead in his lifetime of roulette, which sounds like tens of thousands of hours of play. The variance required for such is so vast.... but he obviously has his believers.... and Ken, I do understand that me watching you play for a couple of hours will of course prove nothing, whether you win or lose.... but I have never had anyone to root for at roulette and would enjoy it whatever the result... maybe you could come to Vegas for the HB weigh in in October? there's plenty of time to plan....
And this is important why? Whether its 20-0 or 0-20, so what? Are you losing sleep over it? BTW, you would not be rooting for me. Haters feel more comfortable when others around them are losing. Also....."tens of thousands of hours of play"? A bit of a stretch.
Ken
Play to win the game. Or play for enjoyment...please don't play expecting to lose.
Quote: JamieVThere are plenty of players on this board who constantly bring up HE and then say, I expect to lose.... What!!! That is crazy!!! Play to win the game. Or play for enjoyment...please don't play expecting to lose.
It is crazy to recognize that the house has the edge and therefore the player should expect to lose in the long run?
Really?
The only roulette I play is European, single zero with partage or en prison.
House edge: 1.35%
He has indicated that he has a system involving the use of the past sixty spins.
This is useless information on an unbiased wheel.
He lacks credibility, and seems to be more interested in padding his post count than in an honest discussion of his game.
Quote: mrjjjAnd this is important why? Whether its 20-0 or 0-20, so what? Are you losing sleep over it? BTW, you would not be rooting for me. Haters feel more comfortable when others around them are losing. Also....."tens of thousands of hours of play"? A bit of a stretch.
Ken
I would be rooting for you. I am not losing sleep over it. I made a guess about how many hours of play you have amassed.... if not tens of thousands, what is your best estimate?
Quote: RonCIt is possible for a player to be ahead, even over a lifetime of gambling. I would guess the probability is rather low but that doesn't mean that it can't be true. If someone says that AND then asks me to buy a system that "always works", well, then I will doubt them. What does Ken have to gain or lose by telling us he us up for his lifetime?
The problem is not that he is or could be ahead. The problem I have with Ken is that he expects to win at American Roulette. I'm sorry, I have a problem with people spreading false information.
If Ken, on the other hand, said "Yeah, I'm up at roulette...but I got lucky"...then I would have no problem with him.
Honestly, the guy sounds like a complete idiot who has no understanding of math.
I heard that Ken had PIZZA for DINNER!!! DOWN with KEN!!!!!!Quote: mrjjjSo for the record, the GG board here has started another 'down with Ken' thread. Not a big deal, just pointing it out.
Ken
Quote: mrjjj@weaselman >>> What do your profits look like? Up $70 for 2012. (LMAO) Good luck with that .
What are you talking about? Did I ever tell you I played to make money? I play for fun. When I need to make money I go to work.
Quote: SOOPOOI am actually stunned that around a quarter of us believe Ken is ahead in his lifetime of roulette,.
Ken has a lot going for him. He has a big BR, he never chases
his losses, he's not afraid to make bets and use progressions
that would stop the heart of most players. He also doesn't
stick to just one thing, he constantly practices new ways of
playing and quits when he's supposed to. In other words,
he really works at winning, and it works for him. He does lose
sometimes, a lot, and thats why the casino where he plays
hasn't thrown him out. He plays so much they really can't
keep track of where he is financially, they'd have to hire a full
time person just to track him.
Like all roulette players he is a beneficiary or a victim of luck!
Why is this so hard for him to accept?
He doesn't seem to have any trouble debunking the existence of advantage play in other games.
Why does he refuse to accept the fact that American roulette is particularly immune to advantage play?
Quote: EvenBobHe plays so much they really can't
keep track of where he is financially, they'd have to hire a full
time person just to track him.
I am starting to really feel for them. Their computers must be way more than eight years old.
Quote: WongBo
Like all roulette players he is a beneficiary or a victim of luck!
There's more to it than luck. He's definitely gotten better
at it over the years. Its not luck if you have noticeable
improvement when you change what you're doing. There's
a skill involved, but I doubt it can be taught. A lot of it has
to do with having complete control over your game, and not
falling into the traps that plague other gamblers.
The only skill at roulette is playing the European wheel with partage or en prison.
There is obviously some skill in the orderliness of how you place your wagers and the etiquette of the French bets etc.
To not hedge bets, duplicate unnecessarily or place bets sloppily and randomly.
Beyond that it is a game of chance.
Period.
Quote: WongBo
The only skill at roulette is playing the European wheel with partage or en prison.
The only skill you know about, you mean. It doesn't matter,
Ken will keep playing anyway, as long as its working why
wouldn't he.
That every mathematician and casino operator in the world is wrong
Or that Ken is wrong?
Quote: s2dbakerI heard that Ken had PIZZA for DINNER!!! DOWN with KEN!!!!!!
Here Here!
*lifts pitchforks and firebrands*
Up with skirts!
Down with pants!
Quote: WongBoWhich seems the more likely scenario:
That every mathematician and casino operator in the world is wrong
Or that Ken is wrong?
Ken has never claimed he can win into
impurpetuity. He's winning for now. He could and probably
will hit a brick wall someday, but that could easily be 20 years
down the road.
Quote: WongBoI find it really hard to take someone seriously as an expert roulette player if he is playing on An American wheel.
The only roulette I play is European, single zero with partage or en prison.
House edge: 1.35%
He has indicated that he has a system involving the use of the past sixty spins.
This is useless information on an unbiased wheel.
He lacks credibility, and seems to be more interested in padding his post count than in an honest discussion of his game.
Again with adjectives. 'Expert'? I dont play systems, I play methods and this particular method going back 60 spins is only one of my methods. On a serious basis, I play 4-6 of them.
"seems to be more interested in padding his post count" >>> I always love this argument. Lets try it again coolbreeze. 37 posts directed TO ME.....guess what?
37 posts will be coming from me, seems kind of simple to understand. For example, you'll respond to this one....so......(I think you're catching on now)
Ken
Quote: WongBoWhich seems the more likely scenario:
That every mathematician and casino operator in the world is wrong
Or that Ken is wrong?
You won't get me to run and hide. Keep trying, it won't happen.
Ken
Sorry, those are just the facts of life.
Quote: EvenBobThe only skill you know about, you mean. It doesn't matter,
Ken will keep playing anyway, as long as its working why
wouldn't he.
Thank God I never relied on the 'you cant win' crowd and the books I read years ago, I would really be fu***d.
Ken
Quote: WongBoIf you are unwilling to back up your claims with methodology you will not be taken seriously.
Sorry, those are just the facts of life.
But he does back it up all the time. He was playing
a method a couple years ago that had him betting
a $3500 progression that had over 30 steps, I believe.
It was betting cold numbers, I'm sure he'll give details
if asked.
Quote: mrjjjAgain with adjectives. 'Expert'? I dont play systems, I play methods and this particular method going back 60 spins is only one of my methods. On a serious basis, I play 4-6 of them.
"seems to be more interested in padding his post count" >>> I always love this argument. Lets try it again coolbreeze. 37 posts directed TO ME.....guess what?
37 posts will be coming from me, seems kind of simple to understand. For example, you'll respond to this one....so......(I think you're catching on now)
Ken
Yes, because you must always reply to someone who somehow references your post. I offer you a riddle:
On a forum there exist two members: YoRollDice and mrjjj. These two adhere to strict rules: 1. They will post on any topic as they please. 2. If reference to their post is made, they must reply to that post.
One day, YoRollDice decided to reply to mrjjj's post. How many posts will occur before one of them decides to quit posting?
(Hint: It is the same as the amount of 9's in .999...)
On another note: How do you start a flame war on a math/gambling forum? 1.Claim to have a system that beats an unbeatable game. 2. Refuse to accept math as a means of proof.
Quote: WongBoIf you are unwilling to back up your claims with methodology you will not be taken seriously.
Sorry, those are just the facts of life.
I won't be taken seriously?? DAMN !! Obvioulsy you dont know me all too well. (lol) I dont give a f**k. Do you think I'm losing sleep over this? I'm currently getting my notebooks ready for the week. Each notebook takes 60-90 minutes to set up. I won't apologize for doing 'well', sorry Charlie.
Ken
Quote: TriplellYes, because you must always reply to someone who somehow references your post. I offer you a riddle:
On a forum there exist two members: YoRollDice and mrjjj. These two adhere to strict rules: 1. They will post on any topic as they please. 2. If reference to their post is made, they must reply to that post.
One day, YoRollDice decided to reply to mrjjj's post. How many posts will occur before one of them decides to quit posting?
(Hint: It is the same as the amount of 9's in .999...)
This reminds me of the joke about the computer programmer who got stuck in the shower because he read the instructions on the shampoo bottle: "Lather, rinse, repeat."
Quote: TriplellYes, because you must always reply to someone who somehow references your post. I offer you a riddle:
On a forum there exist two members: YoRollDice and mrjjj. These two adhere to strict rules: 1. They will post on any topic as they please. 2. If reference to their post is made, they must reply to that post.
One day, YoRollDice decided to reply to mrjjj's post. How many posts will occur before one of them decides to quit posting?
(Hint: It is the same as the amount of 9's in .999...)
On another note: How do you start a flame war on a math/gambling forum? 1.Claim to have a system that beats an unbeatable game. 2. Refuse to accept math as a means of proof.
OMG, it is the GG board. I have a riddle as well. If my socks were blue under the table while jumping rope in Mexico, how many red cats slept after the wood pile was knocked over?
Get the f**k outta here nutjob.
Ken
Quote: EvenBobBut he does back it up all the time. He was playing
a method a couple years ago that had him betting
a $3500 progression that had over 30 steps, I believe.
It was betting cold numbers, I'm sure he'll give details
if asked.
"Cold numbers" is a term made up by casino's to get you to play their game, and you buy into it.
The fact of the matter is that every spin of the wheel is an independent event. I suggest you read up on probability and independent events if you don't understand what they are.
The fact of the matter is that no matter how you bet, the only way to win at roulette is to maximize your wins and minimize your losses. Ther is only 2 ways to do this sucessfully: 1. Predict the future (easy enough) or 2. Get lucky.
If you are lucky, congrats to you, but this doesn't make you a more skilled roulette player (which Ken seems to believe he is, considering he often condescends on other players and calls them names such as "rookie"....)
And the whole reason I am part of this conversation is for that fact alone. Anyway who is arrogant enough (and dumb enough) to believe that their blind luck makes them a "professional" deserves to be attacked.
So Ken, continue to play roulette, you'll only end up giving all those winnings back to the casino, and this I promise you.
Quote: mrjjjGet the f**k outta here nutjob.
I'm calling foul on this, Ken: that's over the line for polite discussion. If you want to carry on about how you've got a winning system method, but not share the details about how you're betting, what your computed player edge is, or how your method could possibly alter the normal -2/38 edge on unbiased independent spins of a roulette wheel, that's up to you. But a direct personal insult is a clear violation of the forum rules. This isn't your sandbox. It's not mine either, but I know whose it is and he doesn't typically tolerate blatant verbal assaults.
Quote: mrjjjOMG, it is the GG board. I have a riddle as well. If my socks were blue under the table while jumping rope in Mexico, how many red cats slept after the wood pile was knocked over?
Get the f**k outta here nutjob.
Ken
I have no idea what the GG board is. You are a very stubborn person who is stuck on his ways. Because of this, I assume that argument with you has -EV.
Quote: Triplell"Cold numbers" is a term made up by casino's to get you to play their game, and you buy into it.
The fact of the matter is that every spin of the wheel is an independent event. I suggest you read up on probability and independent events if you don't understand what they are.
The fact of the matter is that no matter how you bet, the only way to win at roulette is to maximize your wins and minimize your losses. Ther is only 2 ways to do this sucessfully: 1. Predict the future (easy enough) or 2. Get lucky.
If you are lucky, congrats to you, but this doesn't make you a more skilled roulette player (which Ken seems to believe he is, considering he often condescends on other players and calls them names such as "rookie"....)
And the whole reason I am part of this conversation is for that fact alone. Anyway who is arrogant enough (and dumb enough) to believe that their blind luck makes them a "professional" deserves to be attacked.
So Ken, continue to play roulette, you'll only end up giving all those winnings back to the casino, and this I promise you.
Thanks for the words of encouragement, hater. It is true, back when I was playing progressions, I didn't mess around. It was mostly (not always) on sleepers and each loss was around $3,500.......I had quite a few of those days. Show me where I ever said, I never lost. Thats kind of why I switched to flat betting. If you start to get into trouble with flat betting, you can quit for the day. In trouble with a progression, you are somewhat committed, right to the end. I play 1-3 hot numbers and I love it. Is the wheel bias? Once again, I give a f**k. If you want to throw the TITLE of bias on it, knock yourself out man.
Ken
I think he's just another unstable guy craving attention.
I prefer to engage in meaningful discussions with intelligent people.
Quote: WongBoI am going to shun this guy.
I think he's just another unstable guy craving attention.
I prefer to engage in meaningful discussions with intelligent people.
and your idea of me craving attention is, RESPONDING to posts (like this one). Stop with your laziness and put some REAL hours into roulette. Something funny, if the haters here spent the SAME amount of time studying/testing methods etc., as they do ATTACKING others, they would be well on their way.
Ken
Quote: WongBoI am going to shun this guy.
I think he's just another unstable guy craving attention.
When I first encountered Ken 6 years ago, I was his biggest detractor.
He hated my guts and we went round and round. But he does win, its
a helluva lot of work staying ahead of the curve, but he does it for
now.
