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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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You have a great attitude, tutti! My lifelong experience taking care of dialysis patients does not paint a pretty picture. Most just don’t do as well as you are doing! But I have no reason to disbelieve you. Good for you!
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Do as well as he says he's doing is putting it mildly. Every dialysis patient I've ever known has been absolutely miserable because it's a miserable life getting dialysis three times a week. You just start to get over the fatigue muscle cramps nausea and dizziness and it's time for your next dialysis session. But not for Superman Tutti, for him he races with pleasure to get the treatment and goes dancing in the park afterwards.
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I have dreaded the thought of doing dialysis and told myself I won't do it. Who knows, maybe I will change my mind when the time comes. I probably still have a few years before that will come into play. I have two family members that have already volunteered to give me a kidney but they haven't been tested yet for a match. I have lived the last 47 years with one kidney, how long can I go with no kidneys?
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It is something to think about. Lots of doctors don't recommend dialysis because of the quality of life lost. Roughly 25% of people who decide to have dialysis end up having treatment regret, they wish they hadn't done it.
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Never ever trust anything the quackarooney Medical Establishment tells you without getting three or four other opinions from various sources. The current medical establishment has one thing on its mind, making money off of you. The longer they can keep you alive the more money they make. Plain and simple. They do not give one crap about how much you suffer they only care about how much your insurance company will fork over. You literally have to be your own doctor now because the medical profession stopped caring about us 40 years ago. Ever notice how the medical profession is great about treatments after you're sick but they absolutely suck to the extreme in preventing illness from happening. That's because there's no money in preventing illness But there's millions in treating it. Every doctor in the last 75 years has gotten into the profession to make money. Just ask any of the multiple ex wives most doctors have. They know the score.
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Dentists are even worse IMO

as for MDs, of the ones that aren't quacks, they are likely to be totally under the spell of the drug companies to the degree that they think their job entails being a drug dispenser
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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

tuttigym
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They all get anesthesia for the fistula placements. And of course kidney transplants. And those fistulas don’t last forever. And they disproportionally also get vascular surgeries. The two hospitals I worked at were tertiary care so would get those type of patients frequently. I did take an advanced nephrology elective in medical school that was literally taught by ‘the guy who wrote the book’ but since that’s over 40 years ago it doesn’t mean much!
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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

tuttigym
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They all get anesthesia for the fistula placements. And of course kidney transplants. And those fistulas don’t last forever. And they disproportionally also get vascular surgeries. The two hospitals I worked at were tertiary care so would get those type of patients frequently. I did take an advanced nephrology elective in medical school that was literally taught by ‘the guy who wrote the book’ but since that’s over 40 years ago it doesn’t mean much!
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That word fistula, I did not know it also means a medical procedure. I knew it as a medical condition, sometimes occurring when something bad has happened to a woman. But not as something a physician would intentionally do to you.
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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

tuttigym
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They all get anesthesia for the fistula placements. And of course kidney transplants. And those fistulas don’t last forever. And they disproportionally also get vascular surgeries. The two hospitals I worked at were tertiary care so would get those type of patients frequently. I did take an advanced nephrology elective in medical school that was literally taught by ‘the guy who wrote the book’ but since that’s over 40 years ago it doesn’t mean much!
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That word fistula, I did not know it also means a medical procedure. I knew it as a medical condition, sometimes occurring when something bad has happened to a woman. But not as something a physician would intentionally do to you.
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The surgeon intentionally severs an artery and sews it directly to a vein. A-V fistula. Since there is no ‘tissue’ that the blood must serve now it flows faster and stronger. Makes it easier to get the blood to flow into the dialysis machine.

Not discussed in this thread has been the less common option of peritoneal dialysis. It also has a bunch of negatives but you don’t need to be ‘hooked up to a machine’.
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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

tuttigym
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They all get anesthesia for the fistula placements. And of course kidney transplants. And those fistulas don’t last forever. And they disproportionally also get vascular surgeries. The two hospitals I worked at were tertiary care so would get those type of patients frequently. I did take an advanced nephrology elective in medical school that was literally taught by ‘the guy who wrote the book’ but since that’s over 40 years ago it doesn’t mean much!
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That word fistula, I did not know it also means a medical procedure. I knew it as a medical condition, sometimes occurring when something bad has happened to a woman. But not as something a physician would intentionally do to you.
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The surgeon intentionally severs an artery and sews it directly to a vein. A-V fistula. Since there is no ‘tissue’ that the blood must serve now it flows faster and stronger. Makes it easier to get the blood to flow into the dialysis machine.

Not discussed in this thread has been the less common option of peritoneal dialysis. It also has a bunch of negatives but you don’t need to be ‘hooked up to a machine’.
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I understand the surgical procedure and the alethiology in that process, but you seem to infer that you were "taking care of thousands of patients" after all these procedures during dialysis so that you understood their "miseries." So, for me, that statement is a bit misleading while you are bolstering uncle Bob's assertions which he pulls out of thin air.

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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

tuttigym
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They all get anesthesia for the fistula placements. And of course kidney transplants. And those fistulas don’t last forever. And they disproportionally also get vascular surgeries. The two hospitals I worked at were tertiary care so would get those type of patients frequently. I did take an advanced nephrology elective in medical school that was literally taught by ‘the guy who wrote the book’ but since that’s over 40 years ago it doesn’t mean much!
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That word fistula, I did not know it also means a medical procedure. I knew it as a medical condition, sometimes occurring when something bad has happened to a woman. But not as something a physician would intentionally do to you.
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The surgeon intentionally severs an artery and sews it directly to a vein. A-V fistula. Since there is no ‘tissue’ that the blood must serve now it flows faster and stronger. Makes it easier to get the blood to flow into the dialysis machine.

Not discussed in this thread has been the less common option of peritoneal dialysis. It also has a bunch of negatives but you don’t need to be ‘hooked up to a machine’.
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I understand the surgical procedure and the alethiology in that process, but you seem to infer that you were "taking care of thousands of patients" after all these procedures during dialysis so that you understood their "miseries." So, for me, that statement is a bit misleading while you are bolstering uncle Bob's assertions which he pulls out of thin air.

tuttigym
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They come for multiple procedures. So although I don’t manage their care between procedures I evaluate/examine/talk with them over time.
Bob’s experience with them I’d say more aligns with the majority than yours.

Just googled it. As I suspected, the prognosis TENDS to be grim for an 80 year old on dialysis. 54% ONE YEAR survival. As I said earlier, we are happy YOU are doing so much better.
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I’ve taken care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients. The best experiences were for those getting transplants to get OFF dialysis.
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I remember you posting that you were an anesthesiologist. If that is true, how dies that specialty equate with "taking care of literally thousands of kidney failure patients"? Were you a board-certified nephologist too? Could you define "taking care"?

tuttigym
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They all get anesthesia for the fistula placements. And of course kidney transplants. And those fistulas don’t last forever. And they disproportionally also get vascular surgeries. The two hospitals I worked at were tertiary care so would get those type of patients frequently. I did take an advanced nephrology elective in medical school that was literally taught by ‘the guy who wrote the book’ but since that’s over 40 years ago it doesn’t mean much!
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That word fistula, I did not know it also means a medical procedure. I knew it as a medical condition, sometimes occurring when something bad has happened to a woman. But not as something a physician would intentionally do to you.
link to original post

The surgeon intentionally severs an artery and sews it directly to a vein. A-V fistula. Since there is no ‘tissue’ that the blood must serve now it flows faster and stronger. Makes it easier to get the blood to flow into the dialysis machine.

Not discussed in this thread has been the less common option of peritoneal dialysis. It also has a bunch of negatives but you don’t need to be ‘hooked up to a machine’.
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I understand the surgical procedure and the alethiology in that process, but you seem to infer that you were "taking care of thousands of patients" after all these procedures during dialysis so that you understood their "miseries." So, for me, that statement is a bit misleading while you are bolstering uncle Bob's assertions which he pulls out of thin air.

tuttigym
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They come for multiple procedures. So although I don’t manage their care between procedures I evaluate/examine/talk with them over time.
Bob’s experience with them I’d say more aligns with the majority than yours.

Just googled it. As I suspected, the prognosis TENDS to be grim for an 80 year old on dialysis. 54% ONE YEAR survival. As I said earlier, we are happy YOU are doing so much better.
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Thank you for the quick response and your clarifications of your experiences. I think you are giving UnEven Bob "experience" credit he really does not have. BTW my anesthesiologist, same one for two procedures, never really conversed with me about much of anything.

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I was always chatty.
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I was always chatty.
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SOOPOO reveals how he made patients unconscious.

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I was always chatty.
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SOOPOO reveals how he made patients unconscious.

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They were almost knocked out right away because all he chatted about was his bank account and his retirement plans.
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I was always chatty.
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SOOPOO reveals how he made patients unconscious.

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They were almost knocked out right away because all he chatted about was his bank account and his retirement plans.
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Never. My favorite chat was when an old curmudgeon like EB and his wife showed up, with the wife having surgery….

I’d always ask the lady if she’d prefer privacy during the medical interview. I’d offer to ask her father to step away. Surefire giggle.

I took it very seriously that the person looking at me was often scared to death.
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I was always chatty.
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SOOPOO reveals how he made patients unconscious.

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They were almost knocked out right away because all he chatted about was his bank account and his retirement plans.
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Never. My favorite chat was when an old curmudgeon like EB and his wife showed up, with the wife having surgery….

I’d always ask the lady if she’d prefer privacy during the medical interview. I’d offer to ask her father to step away. Surefire giggle.

I took it very seriously that the person looking at me was often scared to death.
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I have seen your picture several times from the days when the forum had that Vegas get together. I completely understand why someone looking at you would be scared to death, I can't think of another reaction they should have.
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Good try Bob. But fail. But we know you only post for yourself because no one else cares about the drivel you make up. I’m much thinner than then, by the way! Feel free to post a picture of me from decades ago!
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Good try Bob. But fail. But we know you only post for yourself because no one else cares about the drivel you make up. I’m much thinner than then, by the way! Feel free to post a picture of me from decades ago!
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How is that a fail. Every year that event was attended in Vegas there was a group picture taken and you were almost always in it. Why would I spend even 5 seconds of my life trying to find that thread. And look how defensive you are, saying that you're much thinner now. LOL
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Good try Bob. But fail. But we know you only post for yourself because no one else cares about the drivel you make up. I’m much thinner than then, by the way! Feel free to post a picture of me from decades ago!
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How is that a fail. Every year that event was attended in Vegas there was a group picture taken and you were almost always in it. Why would I spend even 5 seconds of my life trying to find that thread. And look how defensive you are, saying that you're much thinner now. LOL
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