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November 9th, 2024 at 11:32:13 AM permalink
Thoughts?

I think the under would be a good bet, however I'm worried both of these fighters understand that a short quick fight is not good for anyone.
It seems more likely that it's legit but theres all kinds of possible shenanigans to be had.

There are some so-called experts that actually claim Mike Tyson is going to win.



I'm not sure if or what I'm going to bet on but I'm definitely going to be watching this fight. Mike


Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano should be a good match up I have bet on both of these wound fighters in the past, I'm leaning towards Katie Taylor.
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November 9th, 2024 at 11:50:31 AM permalink
If Mike wins , I'll watch the replay
If Jake wins , I'll ignore
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
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November 9th, 2024 at 12:30:15 PM permalink
I just hope this whole thing isn't a work to set up something on WWE Raw when it starts on Netflix in early January.
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November 9th, 2024 at 12:57:50 PM permalink
I'll watch a replay, but I don't care either way. I'm just happy Mike Tyson lived to be this age and is leading the good life. The man has overcome so much.
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November 9th, 2024 at 3:22:34 PM permalink
If there is no college football on TV that night I will watch the fight since it is on Netflix. I would never pay to watch it.
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November 9th, 2024 at 4:00:40 PM permalink
I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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November 9th, 2024 at 4:08:16 PM permalink
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I'll watch a replay, but I don't care either way. I'm just happy Mike Tyson lived to be this age and is leading the good life. The man has overcome so much.
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Most convicted rapists have ‘overcome so much’.

He served his time, I’ll watch the fight if it is convenient.
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November 9th, 2024 at 4:16:03 PM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]

So you are taking the under?

I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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November 9th, 2024 at 4:23:40 PM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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Saw this today
I doubt there is any gas left in the tank
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November 9th, 2024 at 4:41:02 PM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]

So you are taking the under?

I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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No I'm not going to bet on that. I don't bet on female fighting either because it aesthetically offends me. They should be playing at Graces instead.

https://hylandhouse.org/at-home-activities/the-flying-circle-make-your-own-game-of-graces/

Going from my own athletic perspective, I'm around the same age as Tyson and was quite a gorilla, back in the day. But I would not even think of attempting some of the things I used to do in the weight room or elsewhere, because it doesn't last. Not for me, for him, or for anyone. The difference between looking like you can do it to a layman and being able to compete against a professional are subtle. Kind of like chess in that if I were to play against a grandmaster, there is no question who would win. He might win in 30 or 40 moves and to a non-chessplayer it might look like we were evenly matched until the very end, but an expert would see I never had a chance and my fate was sealed 10-15 moves before the checkmate.
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November 9th, 2024 at 5:02:38 PM permalink
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If there is no college football on TV that night I will watch the fight since it is on Netflix. I would never pay to watch it.
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The "main card" begins on Netflix at 8 Eastern, but it's not clear if there are any fights before Tyson-Paul.
Wyoming-Colorado State and North Texas-UTSA start at 8; UCLA-Washington starts at 9.
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November 9th, 2024 at 6:48:39 PM permalink
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If there is no college football on TV that night I will watch the fight since it is on Netflix. I would never pay to watch it.
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The "main card" begins on Netflix at 8 Eastern, but it's not clear if there are any fights before Tyson-Paul.
Wyoming-Colorado State and North Texas-UTSA start at 8; UCLA-Washington starts at 9.
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If that is the case I will probably be watching the Roadrunners game.
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November 9th, 2024 at 9:37:52 PM permalink
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I don't bet on female fighting either because it aesthetically offends me. They should be playing at Graces instead.

https://hylandhouse.org/at-home-activities/the-flying-circle-make-your-own-game-of-graces/

You must do well with the ladies.
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November 10th, 2024 at 12:29:40 AM permalink
Quote: AutomaticMonkey

I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.

Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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November 10th, 2024 at 2:27:28 AM permalink
OK I'm going to make myself really popular here- I've always thought Tyson was overrated. Sure he won a lot of fights, but he also fought a lot of bums and he seemed to me to be mostly a media creation, as is Jake Paul. He just happened to come around at a time when cable and PPV had changed the economics of the sport and the quality of the competition reflected that. The best guy he ever fought and beat was Larry Holmes, who was in my opinion one of the most underrated boxers ever, coming around in the shadow of Ali, but Holmes had to have been close to 40 at that point himself. We've seen it happen through the history of the sport- Schmeling lost his final fight to Joe Louis when he was too old to be fighting Joe Louis and the same thing happened to Louis when he was too old to be fighting Marciano.

So I don't take this fight seriously enough to bet on it. But no judgment for anyone who does.
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November 10th, 2024 at 4:04:11 AM permalink
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Quote: AutomaticMonkey

I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.

Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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Holyfield was 34 when he beat Tyson

George Foreman's last fight was at age 48
Tyson is now 58
that's a very, very big difference

getting into the ring at age 58 is quite astonishing to me

Albert Hughes Jr. fought at age 70 in 2019 - that's even crazier - insane - he KOed his 43 year old opponent

here's big Al in the ring at age 70:




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November 10th, 2024 at 4:21:20 AM permalink
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If Mike wins , I'll watch the replay
If Jake wins , I'll ignore
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ding ding ding winnar

and jake is a 3:1 favorite??? (-$275 at sports books)
Yeah, mike is old (almost 60).
But Jake's claim to fame is that he fought famous scrubs (big name but has been mma fighters).

Also, doesnt Mike hate jake for all the shade that Jake has thrown his way?
Or just pre-fight fiction to get people interested?
If it's real, i can see Mike tear Jake's head off in 1st round
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November 10th, 2024 at 5:03:14 AM permalink
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If Mike wins , I'll watch the replay
If Jake wins , I'll ignore
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ding ding ding winnar

and jake is a 3:1 favorite??? (-$275 at sports books)
Yeah, mike is old (almost 60).
But Jake's claim to fame is that he fought famous scrubs (big name but has been mma fighters).

Also, doesnt Mike hate jake for all the shade that Jake has thrown his way?
Or just pre-fight fiction to get people interested?
If it's real, i can see Mike tear Jake's head off in 1st round
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Tyson has said he likes Jake. Last interview I saw with him.

Have no idea if that makes an overall difference in any fight. Don't know if it's ever been analyzed. Have seen some pretty brutal fights from fighters who like each other.
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November 10th, 2024 at 5:55:01 AM permalink
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Also, doesn't Mike hate Jake for all the shade that Jake has thrown his way?

Absolutely not, they love each other.

I swear Mike had to contain himself from smiling too much and outright laughing during a "shoving match"
Perhaps that's normal for him under those circumstances, but I don't think so, at least not when it's that obvious.
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November 10th, 2024 at 5:55:41 AM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]

So you are taking the under?

I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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2 minute rounds. I’m taking the over.
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November 10th, 2024 at 5:58:53 AM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.

Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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I don't remember that at all. What I do remember is Tyson ducking Holyfield. Going into the fight, the winner of Holyfield vs. Dokes was supposed to get a title shot against Tyson. After Holyfield won, all sorts of excuses were made, and the loser- Dokes- was signed to fight Tyson.
There were a lot of legitimate concerns about Foreman's comeback.
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November 10th, 2024 at 6:00:05 AM permalink
Will the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.

I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.

Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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November 10th, 2024 at 7:05:37 AM permalink
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Will the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.

I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.

Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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As far as orchestrated, a fight can be completely clean, but you still have to worry about some funky-ass judging.
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November 10th, 2024 at 8:38:18 AM permalink
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Will the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.

I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.

Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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As far as orchestrated, a fight can be completely clean, but you still have to worry about some funky-ass judging.
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That shouldn't affect if it goes the distance or not.

The shenanigans I would be worried about is a situation where the two fighters have conspired to make sure the fans are getting their money's worth I.E. making it go the distance for a rematch, future promotions, or for whatever other financial reasons.

If this turns out to be a really good match, they both stand to make a lot more money in the long run.

I wouldn't put it past Jake Paul to let Mike Tyson win since that would be super huge for everyone involved, including the fans.
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November 10th, 2024 at 8:46:13 AM permalink
That's the overwhelming logic, yes, but it's quite possible for Paul to hold back a lot out of respect for Tyson and let the match go to the distance like a regular exhibition fight often times does. 8 rounds at 2 minutes each is already a red flag for a serious bet on the no for 'to go to the distance'.
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November 10th, 2024 at 8:50:58 AM permalink
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That's the overwhelming logic, yes, but it's quite possible for Paul to hold back a lot out of respect for Tyson and let the match go to the distance like a regular exhibition fight often times does. 8 rounds at 2 minutes each is already a red flag for a serious bet on the no for 'to go to the distance'.
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I am probably overthinking it.

I do not even know why I think there is some significant value to be had somewhere in this fight. It may end up being one of my biggest single-betting situations of the year.
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November 10th, 2024 at 9:21:00 AM permalink
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That's the overwhelming logic, yes, but it's quite possible for Paul to hold back a lot out of respect for Tyson and let the match go to the distance like a regular exhibition fight often times does. 8 rounds at 2 minutes each is already a red flag for a serious bet on the no for 'to go to the distance'.
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I am probably overthinking it.

I do not even know why I think there is some significant value to be had somewhere in this fight. It may end up being one of my biggest single-betting situations of the year.
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November 10th, 2024 at 10:15:11 AM permalink
Probably on video you could tell if a punch is being pulled by slowing it down. I assume the arrival time differs. Or maybe you could tell something by studying the distance from the target from standing a bit too far back or not leaning in.

I would expect Tyson to have slower reflexes. You could probably judge that from video.

Basketball players fake fouls all the time, but I don't think it looks very convincing usually when they fall.
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November 10th, 2024 at 11:24:19 AM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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Saw this today
I doubt there is any gas left in the tank

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He could be a Vinny Testeverde and be a 3rd string QB for 10yrs.
Vinny made like $1M year being a bench warmer after his QB days as a starter were over.
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November 10th, 2024 at 11:28:47 AM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting. What next, is Joe Namath going to put on the pads and go out there for a few downs? If he is seriously injured or killed it will be no honor to either fighter.
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I can recall exactly the same argument being made to prevent the Holyfield-Tyson match-up decades back. People were seriously concerned Tyson would literally kill Holyfied.

Holyfield won. So did George Foreman when he was two years older, in worse shape, against an actual boxing world champion.
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yeah, WTF in fat Foreman winning the belt again in his 50s?!?
Did the champ at that time not look at the tapes of Foreman's previous 2 fights as an old man?
He used the same crab style of boxing
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November 10th, 2024 at 11:33:12 AM permalink
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I think it's grotesque. Tyson is too old to be fighting./link]

So you are taking the under?

I watched some of his training and he looks really good.
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2 minute rounds. I’m taking the over.
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Won't shorter rounds help the guy in worse shape because he gets to rest faster?
(I'm thinking a pro boxer in his 20s has better cardio than a 58yr old)


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Will the fight go to the distance? I got the NO at -225 it is now at -227, I only got down a few hundred so far.

I can't see how that's a bad bet unless it's totally orchestrated.

Im thinking about loading up on this bet assuming I can find it at multiple places.
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As far as orchestrated, a fight can be completely clean, but you still have to worry about some funky-ass judging.
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Thought exhibition match so no judges? It's either knockout or tie if it goes the distance
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November 10th, 2024 at 11:57:18 AM permalink
This is an official fight. Not exhibition.
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November 10th, 2024 at 12:20:43 PM permalink
Studies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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November 10th, 2024 at 12:35:01 PM permalink
You need a Netflix subscription to watch
But
Bars and restaurants with DirecTV have been authorized to show the full fight card
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November 10th, 2024 at 4:15:18 PM permalink
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Studies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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"In shape," but not competitively. Up at an elite level that last couple of percent of ability is the difference between being the champion and not being even a contender.
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November 10th, 2024 at 5:38:05 PM permalink
When I was young man there were many men who lived to 70's but they were wheezing and in terrible shape. Nowadays you see guys in excellent shape that old that can pass for their late 40's. It can be done.

Whether Tyson can get fight fit I tend to doubt: he's been a shot fighter for a long time now. The end of his career was an embarrassment. Additionally his edge came from cumulative punches rather than single hits which tends to be something which fades faster in age. But we'll see. It would be very satisfying to see him knock Paul down.
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November 10th, 2024 at 6:55:20 PM permalink
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When I was young man there were many men who lived to 70's but they were wheezing and in terrible shape. Nowadays you see guys in excellent shape that old that can pass for their late 40's. It can be done.

Whether Tyson can get fight fit I tend to doubt: he's been a shot fighter for a long time now. The end of his career was an embarrassment. Additionally his edge came from cumulative punches rather than single hits which tends to be something which fades faster in age. But we'll see. It would be very satisfying to see him knock Paul down.
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Jake Paul beat Nate Diaz
Diaz was recently retired from MMA in his late 30's
Tyson is an old man
No contest
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November 10th, 2024 at 7:05:07 PM permalink
I gotta go with Paul because, Fury aside, he really only cherry picks fights he knows he can win…. OTOH, he never was a professional level boxer, and has had mixed results against those who have been real boxers at some point, does best against MMA fighters who are trained to be all around fighters and then are relegated to using a shadow of their fighting skills in these formats.
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November 10th, 2024 at 8:20:13 PM permalink
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When I was young man there were many men who lived to 70's but they were wheezing and in terrible shape. Nowadays you see guys in excellent shape that old that can pass for their late 40's. It can be done.

Whether Tyson can get fight fit I tend to doubt: he's been a shot fighter for a long time now. The end of his career was an embarrassment. Additionally his edge came from cumulative punches rather than single hits which tends to be something which fades faster in age. But we'll see. It would be very satisfying to see him knock Paul down.
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Jake Paul beat Nate Diaz
Diaz was recently retired from MMA in his late 30's
Tyson is an old man
No contest
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Diaz was not a boxer.
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November 10th, 2024 at 9:01:36 PM permalink
He looks pretty God damn fit to me.

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November 11th, 2024 at 5:19:22 AM permalink
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This is an official fight. Not exhibition.
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oh wow! this changes things.
so no headgear.
tyson will lose.
a 58yr old isnt going to be able to take shots to the head as well as someone in his 20s.

And being a pro fight, there will be a winner so less chance of them playing patty cake with their hands to go the distance for a tie so fans get their $ worth.
(ie: tyson vs roy jones fight was exhibition)
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November 11th, 2024 at 6:40:47 AM permalink
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Studies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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"In shape," but not competitively. Up at an elite level that last couple of percent of ability is the difference between being the champion and not being even a contender.
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Well, if I was 70, I wouldn't fight anyone under 65.
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November 11th, 2024 at 10:31:30 AM permalink
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Studies have shown men can keep in better shape than people used to think. Into their 70’s. Probably early 70’s. Just sayin’
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"In shape," but not competitively. Up at an elite level that last couple of percent of ability is the difference between being the champion and not being even a contender.
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Well, if I was 70, I wouldn't fight anyone under 65.
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I am 58 and probably couldn't beat anyone under 75 in a fight.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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November 11th, 2024 at 5:18:10 PM permalink
I just bet another $2,200 @ -227 that it won't go the distance. FYI It's free bets with a 3 times roll. I will have $4,400 left to wager if I win. If I lose, I reset and won't have any wagering
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 12th, 2024 at 2:30:10 AM permalink
Here is how the Box-Rec crew sees the bout (based on 31 votes):

Paul Decision: 19%
Paul TKO: 27%
Draw: 16%
Tyson TKO: 35%
Tyson Decision 3%

With 2 minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves hard to believe Texas commission sanctioned this as a professional bout and not an exhibition.

I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under.

If your watching check out local rising star and NiaFalls kid the "Prince": Undefeated lightweight Lucas “Prince” Bahdi (17-0, 15 KOs) will face veteran Corey “2Smoove” Marksman (10-0-1, 7 KOs) in a 10-round lightweight bout.

I also think Bruce "Shu Shu" Carrington will win his bout on this card.
I 'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.
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November 12th, 2024 at 5:17:15 AM permalink
Quote: Jimmy2Times

Here is how the Box-Rec crew sees the bout (based on 31 votes):

Paul Decision: 19%
Paul TKO: 27%
Draw: 16%
Tyson TKO: 35%
Tyson Decision 3%

With 2 minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves hard to believe Texas commission sanctioned this as a professional bout and not an exhibition.

I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under.
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Yeah, 2min rounds and only 8rounds for a pro fight?!?
I thought pro fights were 3min rounds with 12 or 15 rounds?

Is 14oz gloves light or heavy for a pro fight?

As for going the distance, I would do the over since it's only 8 short rounds. If Tyson is in trouble, he could just clinch which will eat a lot of time relative to 2min.

I assume during sparring that Tyson could handle head shots?
Hate to see a tko with the 1st hard punch to the head by Jake.
That would tarnish Tyson's legacy.
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November 12th, 2024 at 6:59:58 AM permalink
Pro fights are 4, 6, 8, 10 or 12 with 12 rounds used for title fights. The 15 round bouts were eliminated back in 1982 as a result of Boom Boom Mancini - Duk Koo Kim tragedy where Kim died as a result of his injuries.

Gloves for pro bouts are 8 ounce and occassionaly12 ounces with 8 ounce most commonly used today. The 14 ounce gloves are what are used in sparring.
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November 12th, 2024 at 7:07:08 AM permalink
This fight should be six rounds, with eight-ounce gloves, if it weren't a joke in the first place. There is a reason why it is being held in Texas.
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November 12th, 2024 at 9:06:37 AM permalink
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Here is how the Box-Rec crew sees the bout (based on 31 votes):

Paul Decision: 19%
Paul TKO: 27%
Draw: 16%
Tyson TKO: 35%
Tyson Decision 3%

With 2 minute rounds and 14 ounce gloves hard to believe Texas commission sanctioned this as a professional bout and not an exhibition.

I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under.

If your watching check out local rising star and NiaFalls kid the "Prince": Undefeated lightweight Lucas “Prince” Bahdi (17-0, 15 KOs) will face veteran Corey “2Smoove” Marksman (10-0-1, 7 KOs) in a 10-round lightweight bout.

I also think Bruce "Shu Shu" Carrington will win his bout on this card.
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Just for clarification the under I believe is 5 1/2 -110 whereas the >Will Not Go The Distance< is the entire eight rounds at -227.
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November 12th, 2024 at 10:00:48 AM permalink
AxelWolf, thank you for the last post - I made an error when typed "I will follow AxelWolf and go with the under" - meant to type "... not to go the distance". Appreciate you taking the time to post the clarification.
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