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MrV
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February 24th, 2024 at 1:17:36 PM permalink
The subject has been raised, so why not "put it to a vote?"

Vote early and oftern.
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February 24th, 2024 at 1:42:53 PM permalink
"I want you to know I intend to moderate with a light hand."

Wait a minute - didn't BBB say something like that when she started? 😁
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February 24th, 2024 at 2:31:42 PM permalink
Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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February 24th, 2024 at 3:19:07 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Moderators don't get much personal information. IP address and browser UA string which might define connection device manufacturer and model.
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February 24th, 2024 at 3:40:38 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: AxelWolf

Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Moderators don't get much personal information. IP address and browser UA string which might define connection device manufacturer and model.
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That's too much information. Basically, when you were a Moderator, assuming I wasn't using a VPN you knew my appropriate location whenever I was on the forum. You knew/know my home IP address. You knew when I was on or off the forums.

Luckily My IP pings my location at least 8 miles away from my actual location(Not because of you).



You knew if I was traveling, you knew if I was at X, Y, or Z casino. (Is that not how you guys ultimately figured out B79 or that fake host?)

Why does, would that matter? One knowing I'm an AP and suddenly pinging my location at a casino out-of-state could be of concern for many reasons. I do believe both the current mods are somewhat Advantage Players or at least AP enthusiasts(?).

Whatever the case, I don't know what information an IP can show outside the forums. I know using a VPN can solve all that, but I should not have to do that.
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February 24th, 2024 at 4:19:36 PM permalink
I voted yes for Mdawg. 😀 I think Mdawg would make an excellent Moderator. 😀 He handles himself REALLY well. 😀
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February 24th, 2024 at 4:50:06 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I voted yes for Mdawg. 😀 I think Mdawg would make an excellent Moderator. 😀 He handles himself REALLY well. 😀
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Well that seals the "NO"
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February 24th, 2024 at 5:06:10 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

Quote: Nathan

I voted yes for Mdawg. 😀 I think Mdawg would make an excellent Moderator. 😀 He handles himself REALLY well. 😀
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Well that seals the "NO"
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Yup
Was on the fence due to how fun this would be
Nathan sealed it
No
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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February 24th, 2024 at 5:12:24 PM permalink
Man, if I could have gotten terapined's vote the floodgates might've flooded in my direction.
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February 24th, 2024 at 5:17:30 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Please provide permalinks to the alleged attempted Doxx and such alleged examples of uncouthery.

PM's are fine, if you prefer.
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February 24th, 2024 at 5:50:05 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

Quote: Nathan

I voted yes for Mdawg. 😀 I think Mdawg would make an excellent Moderator. 😀 He handles himself REALLY well. 😀
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Well that seals the "NO"
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I have always really liked this saying....


Damned by Faint Praise

This isn't the same, but it reminds me of that.
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February 24th, 2024 at 5:50:06 PM permalink
Aw man, if only all of my "Friends," could have voted "Yes," for Mdawg. That would have been 21 extra votes for Mdawg! 😜
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February 24th, 2024 at 6:07:55 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: AxelWolf

Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Please provide permalinks to the alleged attempted Doxx and such alleged examples of uncouthery.

PM's are fine, if you prefer.
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No need, it's been documented here, it's not my job to provide you that. He was suspended for attempted Doxing here. You provide me evidence it's not the case. I do believe True Passages has now been deemed admissible as evidenced since MDawg has encouraged readers to visit and follow him there in the past.

Since people in green should be held to a higher standard, my evidence that shows why he shouldn't be a Moderator should include other public forums, especially ones that have cross-over membership and have similar content.
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February 24th, 2024 at 6:34:56 PM permalink
This is a light hearted thread. It's probably at most half serious.

You turned it into something dark with your unfounded allegations of "uncouth" - unnamed rude or vulgar distasteful acts. And the universe is WOV, Wizard gave me permission to draw from other forums for purposes of responding to Mission146's work, it was not a general free for all to open the floodgates to importing drama, which by the way I believe you have been doing for a couple days now already importing random drama from other forums.

At WOV, there are rules of engagement such that a person participating here would expect a certain degree of respectful interaction, and anything going beyond the usual decorum would not be expected, not assumed to be part of the risk of participating here. Sly little insults are to be expected but outright accusing someone of uncouth acts (unless he did in fact commit uncouth acts) is beyond the pale.

Those other forums have their own rules of engagement and different levels of assumed risk.

I vote you get nuked.  🤣
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February 24th, 2024 at 6:44:36 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: AxelWolf

Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Please provide permalinks to the alleged attempted Doxx and such alleged examples of uncouthery.

PM's are fine, if you prefer.
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This one was easy let me know if more is needed.

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Quote: MDawg
Hello! WMW.


Michael99000 is this you and your posts?
[link redacted by mod]
If so, that might explain the negativity of your posts here.



MDawg.

This looks to me like

1. Michael99000 is the one living rent free in your head.

2. This is an attempt at doxxing, which we suspend for, but I'm going to leave at a warning, because you checked his forum name, and the account links to a non-existent or inactive account.

3. Which likely means it got taken offline due to your action, given the timing (in the last 15 minutes). So probably an unwelcome attack.

Just chill, for crying out loud.
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February 24th, 2024 at 6:47:27 PM permalink
I posted this in reaction to a suggestion elsewhere that the dawg might want to become a WoV mod.

While I doubt it will ever come to pass due to his, ahem, "polorizing" claims, I suspect he would be a good one if he really tried.

The guy is intelligent and well organized and a real whiz at finding old posts to support his arguments, all of which are useful mod skills, but I fear he may be too dismissive of the opinions of others to be fair.

Fact is, good candidates for mod must be hard to find...not complaining about what we have now, I'm just sayin' think how you'd have to behave and approach the forum were you a mod.
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February 24th, 2024 at 6:50:13 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: AxelWolf

Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Please provide permalinks to the alleged attempted Doxx and such alleged examples of uncouthery.

PM's are fine, if you prefer.
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I present the suspension list as evidence of uncouth.

There is even a Personal ATTACK notation (not just an insult).
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February 24th, 2024 at 6:53:10 PM permalink
Do you know what the word uncouth means? That is the issue here not the "attempted doxxing" I admit that what I did there should not have been done, I admitted it immediately after it was pointed out to me.


Also, when I posted that thing I had been a forum member just a few months and didn't know better. The link was to a twitter account in the same screen name Michael99000 as the forum screen name Michael99000, nothing was revealed about the person behind it the twitter was just as anonymous as the WOV forum screen name account.

It would be like if someone posted something here from my MDawg Rules YouTube account - so what?

Plus I believe it was a "non-existent or inactive [twitter] account" as BBB mentioned.

As well, I deleted the link - the moment BBB mentioned to me that it could be construed as against the rules. The other moderator at the time, OnceDear came in and posted in my defense that he didn't view it as doxxing.



I never liked the fact that a mod (I assume BBB) came back later and changed the notation to make it seem as though a moderator had deleted the link. I deleted the link myself right away.
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:05:07 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Do you know what the word uncouth means?
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I meant it as in not having good manners.

Let's not make it hard, I am certain you made a complaint. I don't disagree it could be a personal insult. As long as the Mods show equal justice when I make my complaints(I have been saving one or two)

I have been spending too much time on here the last few days because my eye has been messed up and I haven't felt like doing much unless I had to, however, it's getting better, I think.
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:11:02 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Do you know what the word uncouth means? That is the issue here not the "attempted doxxing" I admit that what I did there should not have been done, I admitted it immediately after it was pointed out to me.


Also, when I posted that thing I had been a forum member just a few months and didn't know better. The link was to a twitter account in the same screen name Michael99000 as the forum screen name Michael99000, nothing was revealed about the person behind it the twitter was just as anonymous as the WOV forum screen name account.

It would be like if someone posted something here from my MDawg Rules YouTube account - so what?

As well, I deleted the link - the moment BBB mentioned to me that it could be construed as against the rules. The other moderator at the time, OnceDear came in and posted in my defense that he didn't view it as doxxing.



I never liked the fact that a mod (I assume BBB) came back later and changed the notation to make it seem as though a moderator had deleted the link. I deleted the link myself right away.
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There's more...
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:19:50 PM permalink
As Gordo has pointed out, the way you meant it especially if you don't understand the meaning of the word is irrelevant.

The way I took it is what matters, I took it as the plain meaning of the word. You've spent a few days now trying nonstop to make MDawg look bad, and this is just more of the same.

You get suspended all the time here, probably more than anyone for some time now, doesn't mean you are guilty of "various other uncouth things."

You know what you did pal, you tried to impugn my WOV reputation. Completely inappropriately too, this thread isn't meant to be that serious.


In the past when you felt like someone was putting down your rep at WOV you'd complain mightily.
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:25:07 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

As Gordo has pointed out, the way you meant it especially if you don't understand the meaning of the word is irrelevant.

The way I took it is what matters, I took it as the plain meaning of the word. You've spent a few days now trying nonstop to make MDawg look bad, and this is just more of the same.

You get suspended all the time here, probably more than anyone for some time now, doesn't mean you are guilty of "various other uncouth things."

You know what you did pal, you tried to impugn my WOV reputation. Completely inappropriately too, this thread isn't meant to be that serious.
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Are you claiming that I don't understand the meaning of the word?

Are you claiming that my meaning of the word isn't valid?
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:26:48 PM permalink
Saying someone is guilty of "various uncouth things" does not simply mean he is ill mannered. Correct.

Which even that would be an insult.
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:28:55 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

my WOV reputation.

ROFLMAO.

I'll let the Data and your words speak for that.

DROPS MIC*
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:31:17 PM permalink
I don't know what's going on with you for a few days now, Wizard asked you to stop interrupting the thread with those posts you ignored him, now this.
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:40:43 PM permalink
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I don't know what's going on with you for a few days now, Wizard asked you to stop interrupting the thread with those posts you ignored him, now this.
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It's possible that Axelwolf 's Account has been hacked because I also noticed Axel seems to be off recently...🤔💡
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February 24th, 2024 at 7:47:30 PM permalink
Did I miss something? Do you (MDawg) want to be a moderator?!? I was considered a decade ago but Wizard wouldnít meet my pay demands. (More than $1 a monthÖ).
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February 24th, 2024 at 8:10:12 PM permalink
You gonna vote for me?   😇
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February 24th, 2024 at 8:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: Merriam Webster Dictionary



Uncouth
1
a
: awkward and uncultivated in appearance, manner, or behavior : RUDE
b
: lacking in polish and grace : RUGGED
uncouth verse
c
: strange or clumsy in shape or appearance : OUTLANDISH
2
a
archaic : not known or not familiar to one : seldom experienced : UNCOMMON, RARE
b
obsolete : MYSTERIOUS, UNCANNY



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uncouth

Rude, rugged, outlandish, uncommon, rare, mysterious, uncanny.

I feel like Iím missing something given MDawgís reaction.
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February 24th, 2024 at 8:12:24 PM permalink
The word uncouth means
lacking good manners, refinement, or grace
uncivilized
unpolished
unrefined
uncultured

Now maybe A.Wolf doesn't even know what the word connotes, but saying that I have done various "uncouth" things implies to anyone reading that MDawg has an unseemly character and committed some sort of unnamed rude or vulgar distasteful acts.

Would have been better if he just called me a jerk or idiot at least that doesn't imply crude unnamed acts.


Furthermore, what are the uncouth acts? He couldn't even come up with any.

Quote: AxelWolf

I don't disagree it could be a personal insult.
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I say nuke him!  😇
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February 24th, 2024 at 9:23:42 PM permalink
I'm sorry I made my teasing comment to MDawg in that other thread - I did so because simply because he pays so much attention to what we moderators do.

I'm not sure this is entirely an appropriate poll and topic for a thread. MDawg has not expressed any interest in being a moderator. Maybe MDawg might start a thread on whether Mr. V would make a good moderator? And then others might start similar polls on people they might wish to embarrass. What if someone started a poll on whether Wizard should retire? Would that be appropriate? It might reasonably be argued that starting this kind of thread/poll is a type of abuse.

And, btw, this is not how moderators are picked - by a popularity poll. It's my theory that a stork delivers them to the Wizard.
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February 24th, 2024 at 9:24:01 PM permalink
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February 24th, 2024 at 9:35:37 PM permalink
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I say nuke him!  😇
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(quote abbreviated)

I do not believe that response is merited at this time.

AxelWolf's claims seem to be based in fact, and deliberately phrased to attempt to be non-insulting.
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February 24th, 2024 at 9:44:23 PM permalink
Thatís beyond ridiculous. All he did was point to the suspension list and say that proves he did various other uncouth things.

He even admitted that what he said was an insult.

By that standard I could now insult with impunity anyone on this forum who has ever been suspended by pointing to the suspension list and say, this proves they committed various other uncouth acts.

One day you rule that a joke ďbig fanĒ merits a suspension next day the exact same word does not and then this today. Youíre all over the place with your rulings lately.

So youíre seriously saying that the fact that someone has been WOV suspended green lights anyone calling him thereafter uncouth or guilty of various uncouth acts?

Additionally, if youíre saying that it is based in fact to state that MDawg committed various uncouth acts at WOV, then what is to prevent your being suspended as well.

As well, just recently you mods pointed out that ďbasis in factĒ is no defense to an insult. Again, youíre all over the place.
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February 24th, 2024 at 9:54:47 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Thatís beyond ridiculous. All he did was point to the suspension list and say that proves he did various other uncouth things.

He even admitted that what he said was an insult.

By that standard I could now insult with impunity anyone on this forum who has ever been suspended by pointing to the suspension list and say, this proves they committed various other uncouth acts.

One day you rule that a joke ďbig fanĒ merits a suspension next day the exact same word does not and then this today. Youíre all over the place with your rulings lately.

So youíre seriously saying that the fact that someone has been WOV suspended green lights anyone calling him thereafter uncouth or guilty of various uncouth acts?

Additionally, if youíre saying that it is based in fact to state that MDawg committed various uncouth acts at WOV, then what is to prevent your being suspended as well.

As well, just recently you mods pointed out that ďbasis in factĒ is no defense to an insult. Again, youíre all over the place.
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Don't cry Dawg.

I will allow the mods to suspend me. I want them to suspend me.
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February 24th, 2024 at 9:57:40 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Thatís beyond ridiculous. All he did was point to the suspension list and say that proves he did various other uncouth things.

He even admitted that what he said was an insult.

By that standard I could now insult with impunity anyone on this forum who has ever been suspended by pointing to the suspension list and say, this proves they committed various other uncouth acts.

One day you rule that a joke ďbig fanĒ merits a suspension next day the exact same word does not and then this today. Youíre all over the place with your rulings lately no rime or reason.

So youíre seriously saying that the fact that someone has been WOV suspended green lights anyone calling him thereafter uncouth or guilty of various uncouth acts?
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Information other than a link to the suspension list has been submitted.
Even if it hadn't, the amount of time your account has been "in the red" would indicate something was amiss. (No, I don't have a current tally. I only remember some numbers from years ago, and that number seemed extreme.)

You seem to be taking extreme umbrage. This would seem to be a disqualification for the Green Team.

I'll understand if you want to appeal my official actions to Wizard. I really won't get sore over it.
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February 24th, 2024 at 10:03:21 PM permalink
I donít know what youíve been doing lately as far as moderating but if you want to call it official thatís your word I wouldnít call it that. Even both of the other Admin disagreed with you on your "big fan" suspension. Anyway, so you're standing on that if something is "based in fact," which in this case I say it is not, still you are saying that if "based in fact" it is okay to insult someone to that end? That's your "official" position of the day? I'd say that even you don't believe that, so I don't know why you would have said it.

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It is well established in this forum that a personal insult is not allowable simply because it is the truth. Ex: You may not call someone fat even if he is obese. It is a personal insult and truthfulness is not a loophole. Ex: If you call someone "stupid and delusional" we are not going to allow you to make posts arguing against a suspension by citing examples to prove that he really is stupid and delusional. That would be madness, that is not the kind of forum that we want.

If your post is intended to show contempt for another person in this forum or to hurt his/her feelings, then don't post it. It's a simple rule.
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"We are not going to allow you to make posts arguing against a suspension by citing examples" - that's exactly what you just did. I don't even know why you made the whole thing a public matter to begin with, your doing that invited deepening of the insult through your request for "citing of examples."
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February 24th, 2024 at 10:06:44 PM permalink
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Don't cry Dawg.
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Thatís another insult right there.
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February 24th, 2024 at 10:35:05 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I donít know what youíve been doing lately as far as moderating but if you want to call it official thatís your word I wouldnít call it that. Even both of the other Admin disagreed with you on your "big fan" suspension. Anyway, so you're standing on that if something is "based in fact," which in this case I say it is not, still you are saying that if "based in fact" it is okay to insult someone to that end? That's your "official" position of the day? I'd say that even you don't believe that, so I don't know why you would have said it.

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It is well established in this forum that a personal insult is not allowable simply because it is the truth. Ex: You may not call someone fat even if he is obese. It is a personal insult and truthfulness is not a loophole. Ex: If you call someone "stupid and delusional" we are not going to allow you to make posts arguing against a suspension by citing examples to prove that he really is stupid and delusional. That would be madness, that is not the kind of forum that we want.

If your post is intended to show contempt for another person in this forum or to hurt his/her feelings, then don't post it. It's a simple rule.
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"We are not going to allow you to make posts arguing against a suspension by citing examples" - that's exactly what you just did. I don't even know why you made the whole thing a public matter to begin with, your doing that invited deepening of the insult through your request for "citing of examples."
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You were calling for a nuke.
I was investigating if a nuke was warranted.
It does not appear to be.
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February 24th, 2024 at 10:40:54 PM permalink
That was an obvious joke! Like calling for someone's blood.

That's why I put those laughing emoticons like

🤣
and
😇
after the demand that he be nuked.

Seriously?

You didn't get the "big fan" joke either. 🌝 
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February 24th, 2024 at 10:56:59 PM permalink
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That was an obvious joke! Like calling for someone's blood.

Seriously?

You didn't get the "big fan" joke either. 🌝 
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Please excuse my misunderstanding.
Jokes are supposed to be funny.
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:00:35 PM permalink
Well the big fan joke was funny. And Gordo and Wizard got it.

And for some reason, when terapined (small t 😅, he insists) called me a fan it was ha ha ha but when MDawg laid it on Mission146 it was a week in the slammer. 🤩

Anyway, what's the decision on AxelWolf? He says "suspend me," he admits he insulted me and he even added the "Don't cry MDawg" insult to the mix.
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:11:56 PM permalink
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Well the big fan joke was funny. And Gordo and Wizard got it.

And for some reason, when terapined (small t 😅, he insists) called me a fan it was ha ha ha but when MDawg laid it on Mission146 it was a week in the slammer. 🤩

Anyway, what's the decision on AxelWolf? He says "suspend me," he admits he insulted me and he even added the "Don't cry MDawg" insult to the mix.
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There was (or maybe still is) an "MDawg Fan Club".
I'm not aware of a similar organization for terapined.

That seemingly simple change in context makes one comical, and the other abrasive.
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:17:32 PM permalink
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And for some reason, when terapined (small t 😅, he insists) called me a fan it was ha ha ha but when MDawg laid it on Mission146 it was a week in the slammer. 🤩


Appreciate you going with the lower case "t"
Thank You
Let's clear this up
I believe context is important
"fan club" doubles down on the concept bordering on devotion
While
"fan" is a weaker concept meaning you just like it
Cool now?
Probably not lol

The receipts people keep on this forum borders on fanaticism. Fascinating. I've seen stuff I wrote at least a year ago or longer reposted. It's like going in the way back machine reading some of this stuff
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:17:48 PM permalink
All right, yesterday's newspaper (or the online equivalent).

Now that it's out that the nuke request was a joke.

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what's the [suspension] decision on AxelWolf? He says "suspend me," he admits he insulted me and he even added the "Don't cry MDawg" insult to the mix.



Which, again, I don't know why you made any of this public anyway, or implied that providing "evidence" of that someone is fat could be used to defend against an insult calling someone a fattie (etc.) you could have just asked him in private and settled this all without creating all this public drama.

You'll notice that even after you invited A.Wolf to provide "evidence" publicly, I didn't post a word until after he started providing said "evidence" which turned this whole thing into a spectacle.



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It is well established in this forum that a personal insult is not allowable simply because it is the truth. Ex: You may not call someone fat even if he is obese. It is a personal insult and truthfulness is not a loophole. Ex: If you call someone "stupid and delusional" we are not going to allow you to make posts arguing against a suspension by citing examples to prove that he really is stupid and delusional. That would be madness, that is not the kind of forum that we want.

If your post is intended to show contempt for another person in this forum or to hurt his/her feelings, then don't post it. It's a simple rule.
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:21:37 PM permalink
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All right, yesterday's newspaper (or the online equivalent).

Now that it's out that the nuke request was a joke.

Quote: MDawg

what's the [suspension] decision on AxelWolf? He says "suspend me," he admits he insulted me and he even added the "Don't cry MDawg" insult to the mix.



Which, again, I don't know why you made any of this public anyway, or implied that providing "evidence" of that someone is fat could be used to defend against an insult calling someone a fattie (etc.) you could have just asked him in private and settled this all without creating all this public drama.

You'll notice that even after you invited A.Wolf to provide "evidence" publicly, I didn't post a word until after he started providing said "evidence" which turned this whole thing into a spectacle.



Quote: gordonm888

It is well established in this forum that a personal insult is not allowable simply because it is the truth. Ex: You may not call someone fat even if he is obese. It is a personal insult and truthfulness is not a loophole. Ex: If you call someone "stupid and delusional" we are not going to allow you to make posts arguing against a suspension by citing examples to prove that he really is stupid and delusional. That would be madness, that is not the kind of forum that we want.

If your post is intended to show contempt for another person in this forum or to hurt his/her feelings, then don't post it. It's a simple rule.
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You didn't get that "suspend me" was a joke?
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:23:35 PM permalink
Wow.

You really don't get that he was serious? You don't know him very well then.

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Let's not make it hard, I am certain you made a complaint. I don't disagree it could be a personal insult. As long as the Mods show equal justice when I make my complaints(I have been saving one or two)

I have been spending too much time on here the last few days because my eye has been messed up and I haven't felt like doing much unless I had to, however, it's getting better, I think.


Anyway, all right, one of the other mods will take this up, I suppose, is what you're insisting. I don't think you should have started this all in public.

He is clearly saying that he wants a break from the forumÖand admitting that it could be construed an insult. I donít know what more you want or need thatís a good enough admission for most any venue.
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February 24th, 2024 at 11:44:38 PM permalink
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That was an obvious joke! Like calling for someone's blood.

That's why I put those laughing emoticons like

🤣
and
😇
after the demand that he be nuked.

Seriously?

You didn't get the "big fan" joke either. 🌝 
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But were you really joking, or just pretending to be joking, because you know that if people realized you were serious, that could possibly cause some serious hate towards you.
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February 25th, 2024 at 2:43:46 AM permalink
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The subject has been raised, so why not "put it to a vote?"

Vote early and oftern.
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Given the fact that MDawg has a history of what I consider attempted Doxing (call it what you want) and doing various other uncouth things, things I feel should automatically exclude anyone from being a Moderator of any kind, including a secret Mod. At the very least The Wizard should let members know before someone like MDawg is given Administrative privileges.

It's probably not something The Wizard has really ever considered much, but administrative privileges gives access to people's IP's at a minimum, and who knows what other information.
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Moderators don't get much personal information. IP address and browser UA string which might define connection device manufacturer and model.
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That's too much information. Basically, when you were a Moderator, assuming I wasn't using a VPN you knew my appropriate location whenever I was on the forum. You knew/know my home IP address. You knew when I was on or off the forums.

Luckily My IP pings my location at least 8 miles away from my actual location(Not because of you).



You knew if I was traveling, you knew if I was at X, Y, or Z casino. (Is that not how you guys ultimately figured out B79 or that fake host?)

Why does, would that matter? One knowing I'm an AP and suddenly pinging my location at a casino out-of-state could be of concern for many reasons. I do believe both the current mods are somewhat Advantage Players or at least AP enthusiasts(?).

Whatever the case, I don't know what information an IP can show outside the forums. I know using a VPN can solve all that, but I should not have to do that.
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How would anyone know your home address? Just from checking (when I was an Admin and could see my IP address) the IP address at different physical places Iíve been on Google, it usually got within about twenty miles of where I was. It certainly didnít give an exact address.

I guess, in theory, an Admin could know if you were logging in from different places, because thatís what an IP address is, but Admins would have to be regularly checking your IP address and why would an Admin ever do that?

Also, I donít know if it changed, but when I was an Admin, the site only stored the IP you signed up with and the most recent.

Anyway, I just wouldnít post on message boards, or even use the internet at all, if youíre worried about people knowing your IP address. I donít know what technological witchcraft others are capable of, but an IP match was pretty much the only thing sufficient for me to ban someone for sock accounts short of the person just saying it.
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