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November 20th, 2023 at 1:31:22 AM permalink
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The race looked eerily like a video game. The best views were from the cameras in the cars - a viewpoint which showed nothing of the iconic Vegas landmarks they were racing by.

I was surprised how slow the racecars were going went they went around sharp corners. And impressed by how much money was invested in this event. This event made me think of a billionaire who spends a fortune on a top-tier glamorous hooker and gets four minutes of the same-old same-old whoopee.
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Could be to prevent free advertising on the Sphere?
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November 20th, 2023 at 6:34:27 AM permalink
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pretty sure that girl just got out of bed and didnt care to put on a shirt
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Pretty girl + revealing clothing + clickbait title = more views = more money.

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Whether it was profitable remains to be seen, but I suspect F1 will return next year...and the following year...
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They have a 10-year contract so it will be around for a bit.

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Seems like all these racers know each other from somewhere else, maybe many other races.
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Some of these guys have been racing against each other for years. Sometimes they jump around between teams depending on their contracts. There are only 20 drivers in this "racing league" (or whatever you call it), so it's an extremely small sport, so yes, the drivers all know each other.
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November 20th, 2023 at 8:55:57 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

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pretty sure that girl just got out of bed and didnt care to put on a shirt
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Pretty girl + revealing clothing + clickbait title = more views = more money.



F1 is gonna have to start an OnlyFans channel to survive.
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November 20th, 2023 at 3:16:21 PM permalink
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They have a 10-year contract so it will be around for a bit.



I know, but you better believe that if BOTH F1 and the big players in LV agree that it was a bust, a waste, a money pit: they could by mutual agreement cancel the contract and move on to greener pastures.

Contracts CAN be cancelled if both parties agree, but it must be mutual, not unilateral.
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November 21st, 2023 at 2:23:21 AM permalink
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The race looked eerily like a video game. The best views were from the cameras in the cars - a viewpoint which showed nothing of the iconic Vegas landmarks they were racing by.
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On another newsfeed, I got an article that someone decided to check the public traffic camera feeds... and got a surprisingly good view of the race.

I have a hunch that DOT isn't going to take kindly to blocking their cameras just because the road is closed to the public, and is unlikely to disable the server for the event...
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November 21st, 2023 at 5:09:05 AM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

They have a 10-year contract so it will be around for a bit.



I know, but you better believe that if BOTH F1 and the big players in LV agree that it was a bust, a waste, a money pit: they could by mutual agreement cancel the contract and move on to greener pastures.

Contracts CAN be cancelled if both parties agree, but it must be mutual, not unilateral.
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IIRC the similar Caesars Palace race lasted 2 years before they gave up. Will this last longer?
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November 21st, 2023 at 6:12:50 AM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

They have a 10-year contract so it will be around for a bit.



I know, but you better believe that if BOTH F1 and the big players in LV agree that it was a bust, a waste, a money pit: they could by mutual agreement cancel the contract and move on to greener pastures.

Contracts CAN be cancelled if both parties agree, but it must be mutual, not unilateral.
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IIRC the similar Caesars Palace race lasted 2 years before they gave up. Will this last longer?
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I think so. The hotels will have a better idea on marketing and pricing. Cabs/Ubers will have a better handle on routes/pricing. Restaurants on staffing. Police on crowd control. The racers on how to run the course. And maybe even F1 changing the time of the race. Ideas on more sellable seats, what kinds of parties to throw, how high to make table minimums, should they add a fourth green 0 on their roulette tables, 11/10 Blackjack, etc….
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November 21st, 2023 at 6:20:36 AM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

They have a 10-year contract so it will be around for a bit.



I know, but you better believe that if BOTH F1 and the big players in LV agree that it was a bust, a waste, a money pit: they could by mutual agreement cancel the contract and move on to greener pastures.

Contracts CAN be cancelled if both parties agree, but it must be mutual, not unilateral.
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IIRC the similar Caesars Palace race lasted 2 years before they gave up. Will this last longer?
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I think so. The hotels will have a better idea on marketing and pricing. Cabs/Ubers will have a better handle on routes/pricing. Restaurants on staffing. Police on crowd control. The racers on how to run the course. And maybe even F1 changing the time of the race. Ideas on more sellable seats, what kinds of parties to throw, how high to make table minimums, should they add a fourth green 0 on their roulette tables, 11/10 Blackjack, etc….
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If it succeeds if does add to making Vegas a "Cadillac Destination" where the business of the average person is tolerated more than appreciated. With baseball on the way, Vegas may be the Disneyesque "we don't have a slow season" kind of place.
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November 21st, 2023 at 6:26:02 AM permalink
For those who were not around in 1982....



This looks like what is now the mall attached to Caesars?

The good old days when they had parking lots!
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November 21st, 2023 at 6:37:23 AM permalink
They should close off an area just around Mt. Charleston and race up and down the mountain.
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November 21st, 2023 at 6:49:31 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I think so. The hotels will have a better idea on marketing and pricing. Cabs/Ubers will have a better handle on routes/pricing. Restaurants on staffing. Police on crowd control. The racers on how to run the course. And maybe even F1 changing the time of the race. Ideas on more sellable seats, what kinds of parties to throw, how high to make table minimums, should they add a fourth green 0 on their roulette tables, 11/10 Blackjack, etc….
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Exactly. Everyone acting like this is a monumental disaster just because there were a few problems in what is the first iteration of a massive event is just being dramatic and crying for attention on internet. It's probably all the same people who cry about how Disney "ruined" Star Wars.

Give them another year or so to work out the kinks, and everything will be fine.
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November 21st, 2023 at 8:01:23 AM permalink
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Quote: gordonm888


The race looked eerily like a video game. The best views were from the cameras in the cars - a viewpoint which showed nothing of the iconic Vegas landmarks they were racing by.
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On another newsfeed, I got an article that someone decided to check the public traffic camera feeds... and got a surprisingly good view of the race.

I have a hunch that DOT isn't going to take kindly to blocking their cameras just because the road is closed to the public, and is unlikely to disable the server for the event...
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neato https://www.rtcsnv.com/traffic-cams/watch-live/
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November 21st, 2023 at 10:32:34 AM permalink
Friends with a local who is telling me that they're not tearing down the racecourse yet, as Cowboy Christmas gets going right after Thanksgiving, and LV doesn't want to screw up The Strip just yet. So the bridge over Koval, the barricades, all that will remain up for a couple more weeks. No, I don't have a link.
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November 21st, 2023 at 11:24:07 AM permalink
I note that local attorneys filed a class-action law suit seeking damages for those who bought tickets for the aborted "manholed" late night practice session.

lawsuit re: practice

Could be interesting, legally, to see if it passes summary judgment and then either settles or goes to trial.

Might claims be barred by force majeure / act of god?

Might those who were paid to repave the streets be held fully responsible for the improperly held down water access cover?

Certainly this sort of accident and damage was foreseeable.
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February 20th, 2024 at 3:13:12 AM permalink
Did Vegas just LOSE its BIGGEST Event? - HUGE NEWS!



The locals got sideswiped by the F1 and don't want it back. Will public pressure keep it from coming back?
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February 20th, 2024 at 6:45:19 AM permalink
It would be pretty stupid of everyone to pull out of the deal after just one year. It supposedly brought in $1.2 billion to the local economy. And I don't want to necessarily say, "Who cares what the locals think," but really, Las Vegas basically exists as a tourist city. If you don't like the impact of gambling or casinos or these big mega-events, then move. Whether or not this "three year contract" actually exists, I think F1 is going to be around in Vegas for at least a few more years so they can see if they can work out the kinks. If it's still considered a mistake in like 5 years or so, then I can see the justification of ending the agreement, but as right now all this hoopla is nothing but whiny locals b****ing about something new.
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