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October 24th, 2023 at 11:24:52 AM permalink
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So part of your educated guessing is to overlay the results of three separate and distinct tables and see if the patterns match before realizing they are running the same and it's time for a wager?
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One of my favorite ways to play in a brick and mortar Casino it's to bet all three even chances at the same time. There's usually one of them that looks like a good bet, and often there's a runner up and the third one I just have to make a wild educated guess. So if I think it's going to be red odd high, for instance I make three bets in those positions. If two of them win I make one unit, if two of them lose I lose one unit and if all three lose I lose all three units, if all three are correct I make three units.

But there's a more interesting way to bet and that is to bet on the actual inside numbers which in this case would be numbers 19, 21, 23, 25, 27. They are all really close to each other on the layout and it's not hard to do. If you win and you bet $5 on each number you make $155. I call this using the even chances to make inside bets. If it was playing my game I would typically end up winning, if I bet 24 times over 30 spins, I would typically win eight times and lose 16 times. This would mean a net profit of just over $800 and yes this includes the zeros. It didn't always work out this way sometimes I would win more than this and times I would win less but there would always be a profit. And of course if the numbers were red, even, high, for instance, that would be only four numbers to bet on. 30, 32, 34 and 36 and there will be a little more profit in the end.

This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers. They make the spaces where you place the bets so small that is easy to make a mistake and my computer screen is a 24 inch monitor. By the time I get ready to make the bets I've got maybe 5 seconds left to make five bets and by the time you've done two or three or four of these you're a nervous wreck. So this is why I came up with the 80% thing and only making one unit online.

Like I said in a brick and mortar Casino this is easy peasy and it doesn't usually bring any heat because it's all inside bets. But it doesn't always work because if that one wheel in that particular Casino isn't playing that game for me I'm screwed. This is why I now play online only. Obviously in a brick and mortar Casino if you were to make $25 bets on each number you would make five times as much but you would also get five times as much heat because anytime you bet green they call it out and they watch it. And as I said I still consider this playing the even chances because that's how I arrive at the bet.
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October 24th, 2023 at 11:28:11 AM permalink
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There are roughly 2,000 Internet casinos worldwide,
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Weed out the ones that do not take American players, which is the vast majority. Then weed out the ones where your credit cards don't work and you got to do something stupid like use Bitcoin. You're left with a handful of casinos. And these are not in the United States they're usually totally unregulated offshore joints that maybe they'll pay you maybe they won't. So go ahead and knock yourself out.
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October 24th, 2023 at 11:29:55 AM permalink
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Another post where EB claims
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I'm not just claiming it I did it and every time I do it you forget about it immediately and bring it up again like it's never happened. Truly amazing.
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October 24th, 2023 at 12:05:20 PM permalink
What's amazing is that the most prolific poster on a math-driven gambling forum is a math-denialist that claims not to gamble.
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October 24th, 2023 at 12:12:02 PM permalink
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Another post where EB claims
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I'm not just claiming it I did it and every time I do it you forget about it immediately and bring it up again like it's never happened. Truly amazing.
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You have presented no credible evidence to back your extraordinary claims.
Nobody believes you your wasting your time we know your game.
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October 24th, 2023 at 12:51:38 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

What's amazing is that the most prolific poster on a math-driven gambling forum is a math-denialist that claims not to gamble.
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I don't deny the math but I do claim that it's all done from the position that you're making random bets against random outcomes. I make non random bets so it doesn't apply to me, how could it.
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October 24th, 2023 at 12:54:28 PM permalink
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You have presented no credible evidence to back your extraordinary claims.
Nobody believes you your wasting your time we know your game.
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You must think if you keep saying this or similar things to it that you're going to win a prize of some kind. Nobody is keeping count but this has got to be like the 214th time somebody said this.
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October 24th, 2023 at 1:02:24 PM permalink
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You have presented no credible evidence to back your extraordinary claims.
Nobody believes you your wasting your time we know your game.
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You must think if you keep saying this or similar things to it that you're going to win a prize of some kind. Nobody is keeping count but this has got to be like the 214th time somebody said this.
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It's good to keep speaking the truth It keeps the lies & liars at bay.
And hey bud all your posts keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again do you think your going to win a prize?
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October 24th, 2023 at 1:15:34 PM permalink
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What's amazing is that the most prolific poster on a math-driven gambling forum is a math-denialist that claims not to gamble.
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I don't deny the math but I do claim that it's all done from the position that you're making random bets against random outcomes. I make non random bets so it doesn't apply to me, how could it.
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Because the math doesn't know or care how random or non-random your bets are.
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October 24th, 2023 at 2:12:06 PM permalink
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Because the math doesn't know or care how random or non-random your bets are.
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Of course it does. The math was calculated by using random bets against random outcomes. Then they would say well you can't make a non random bet against random outcomes which of course you can which I've shown again and again and found agreement that I've posted here.
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October 24th, 2023 at 3:02:10 PM permalink
Now. THIS IS INTERESTING. Evenbob tells us two types of wagers. He seems to reckon these two types of wagers are equivalent. But they are not.

One of us got confused here!!!!

Quote: EvenBob

One of my favorite ways to play in a brick and mortar Casino it's to bet all three even chances at the same time. There's usually one of them that looks like a good bet, and often there's a runner up and the third one I just have to make a wild educated guess. So if I think it's going to be red odd high, for instance I make three bets in those positions. If two of them win I make one unit, if two of them lose I lose one unit and if all three lose I lose all three units, if all three are correct I make three units.



That's crystal clear.
I read that as he places a unit on red, a unit on odd, and a unit on high. (Stay with me)
That's a wager that it will be Red OR Odd OR High Or some combination thereof.
If it's red, then that part of the wager pays off
If it's odd, then that part of the wager pays off
If it's high, then that part of the wager pays off
none, or one, or two, or three of those outcomes may pay off.

But then he spouts some guff about placing wagers on the red, odd, high numbers 19, 21, 23, 25 and 27
Does he not realise that is not the same wager at all. That is a wager that it will be Red AND Odd AND High.

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But there's a more interesting way to bet and that is to bet on the actual inside numbers which in this case would be numbers 19, 21, 23, 25, 27. They are all really close to each other on the layout and it's not hard to do. If you win and you bet $5 on each number you make $155. I call this using the even chances to make inside bets. If it was playing my game I would typically end up winning, if I bet 24 times over 30 spins, I would typically win eight times and lose 16 times. This would mean a net profit of just over $800 and yes this includes the zeros. It didn't always work out this way sometimes I would win more than this and times I would win less but there would always be a profit. And of course if the numbers were red, even, high, for instance, that would be only four numbers to bet on. 30, 32, 34 and 36 and there will be a little more profit in the end.



Remember now...
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But there's a more interesting way to bet and that is to bet on the actual inside numbers which in this case would be numbers 19, 21, 23, 25, 27. ...
They are all really close to each other on the layout and it's not hard to do....


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Did you miss the part where I said about 14 times now that I only flat bet even chances? I never ever ever ever ever ever bet anything but even chances. Ever.
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Never made an inside bet in my life and I never will.


Quote: EvenBob

I call this using the even chances to make inside bets.


I'd call this using the inside bets to make even chances.
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And of course if the numbers were red, even, high, for instance, that would be only four numbers to bet on. 30, 32, 34 and 36


Quote: evenbob

Did you miss the part where I said about 14 times now that I only flat bet even chances? I never ever ever ever ever ever bet anything but even chances. Ever.
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Quote: evenbob

Never made an inside bet in my life and I never will.


Quote: evenbob

This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers.


Quote: evenbob

Did you miss the part where I said about 14 times now that I only flat bet even chances? I never ever ever ever ever ever bet anything but even chances. Ever.
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Like I said in a brick and mortar Casino this is easy peasy and it doesn't usually bring any heat because it's all inside bets.


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Did you miss the part where I said about 14 times now that I only flat bet even chances? I never ever ever ever ever ever bet anything but even chances. Ever.
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Never made an inside bet in my life and I never will.

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October 24th, 2023 at 3:39:01 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Now. THIS IS INTERESTING.
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LOL! I knew they either you or Axel would jump on this and you got to it first. I don't consider using the even chance outcomes to bet on the numbers, I don't consider that an inside bet because I arrived at it using the EC's. You can moan and grown and squabble about that all you want, I also have other places I make bets where I use the even chance outcomes. The problem here is there's way more to the even chance bets than you can even imagine. You have no idea the power they can wield in this game. But I just gave you a glimpse. You're welcome. There might be more to come I haven't decided. I don't know how much you can take before your head explodes.
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October 24th, 2023 at 3:40:55 PM permalink
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Quote: TigerWu

What's amazing is that the most prolific poster on a math-driven gambling forum is a math-denialist that claims not to gamble.
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I don't deny the math but I do claim that it's all done from the position that you're making random bets against random outcomes. I make non random bets so it doesn't apply to me, how could it.
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Your rules don't apply to him. He never signed a contract with math so he isn't bound by its rules.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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October 24th, 2023 at 3:46:45 PM permalink
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Your rules don't apply to him. He never signed a contract with math so he isn't bound by its rules.
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I never signed a contract with Gravity. Does that mean I can fly by flapping my arms?
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October 24th, 2023 at 3:50:50 PM permalink
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Your rules don't apply to him. He never signed a contract with math so he isn't bound by its rules.
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I never signed a contract with Gravity. Does that mean I can fly by flapping my arms?
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Of course. As long as you flap them non-randomly!

Notice how I’m not adding any fuel to the fire in this dumpster fire of a thread!
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October 24th, 2023 at 3:52:14 PM permalink
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Your rules don't apply to him. He never signed a contract with math so he isn't bound by its rules.
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I never signed a contract with Gravity. Does that mean I can fly by flapping my arms?
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It means you can say you can fly. It's up to you if you want to provide any proof. Just keep saying you can fly and who cares if you are believed? Rinse and repeat.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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October 24th, 2023 at 4:03:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Now that I have established with AI that patterns do exist in roulette and they can be exploited let's see what AI has to say about pattern recognition in gambling.



NO YOU HAVEN'T. You cannot continue from that false premise

Everything below is complete and utter rubbish. I've set aside the out of context AI quotes that eb has so terribly abused and just left his inane rubbish for your amusement.

Quote: evenbob

But in some instances a pattern can be exploited to make an educated guess, based on observation and experience, as to what the next outcome might be.

Rubbish!
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...But this does not mean they cannot be exploited in the extreme short term.

More rubbish from EvenBob

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...What is dependable is trying to make just one unit from a perceived pattern or trend.

More rubbish from EvenBob
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October 24th, 2023 at 4:31:59 PM permalink
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Your rules don't apply to him. He never signed a contract with math so he isn't bound by its rules.
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I never signed a contract with Gravity. Does that mean I can fly by flapping my arms?
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Rolling my eyes and shaking my head
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October 24th, 2023 at 4:52:26 PM permalink
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NO YOU HAVEN'T.
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Sure I have. And the proof is, your only rebuttal is to jump up and down wave your arms around and scream No you haven't! No you haven't! Thinking that's some kind of an argument. And not even any comments on the brilliance of my even-chance bet on the inside. Has it dawned on you yet the ramifications of a bet like that, knowing what numbers to bet on that have a high chance of winning. What do you think I've been doing for 19 years, studying how to bet red and black? I've been studying all aspects of this game and how I can use the EC's to exploit it. Like I said you ain't seen nothing because you have no idea of the power behind the even chance bets. My wife's birthday is next month and it was on her birthday in 2004 that I discovered roulette. Next year it'll be 20 years.
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October 24th, 2023 at 4:53:20 PM permalink
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Your rules don't apply to him. He never signed a contract with math so he isn't bound by its rules.
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I never signed a contract with Gravity. Does that mean I can fly by flapping my arms?
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Rolling my eyes and shaking my head

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LOL! I love Sam and Bugs.
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October 24th, 2023 at 6:03:24 PM permalink
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But there's a more interesting way to bet and that is to bet on the actual inside numbers which in this case would be numbers 19, 21, 23, 25, 27. They are all really close to each other on the layout and it's not hard to do. If you win and you bet $5 on each number you make $155. I call this using the even chances to make inside bets. If it was playing my game I would typically end up winning, if I bet 24 times over 30 spins, I would typically win eight times and lose 16 times. This would mean a net profit of just over $800 and yes this includes the zeros. It didn't always work out this way sometimes I would win more than this and times I would win less but there would always be a profit. And of course if the numbers were red, even, high, for instance, that would be only four numbers to bet on. 30, 32, 34 and 36 and there will be a little more profit in the end.
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You can also just bet on two even chances like red and odd and bet on all 10 red odd numbers. You will have more winners this way but you'll have more profit betting on the five number sequence. Obviously if I can't make five inside best online I sure as heck can't make 10. I totally expected somebody by now after all this time to say Bob, you think you're so smart, why don't you take your even chance bet and make it on the inside numbers. But nobody ever did, nobody figured it out, In fairness it took me a long time to figure it out but once you see it you can't unsee it. This is why I unblocked OD because I knew I was going to be discussing this and I wanted to see his reaction. He did not disappoint. LOL. You can use the even chances to sneak up on this whole game.
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October 24th, 2023 at 6:35:39 PM permalink
You are making this up as you go along, aren't you?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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October 24th, 2023 at 6:43:07 PM permalink
Meh, my system of winning at roulette is much more powerful.

I wager on any even chance bet. If I win I get the amount of my wager doubled. If I lose I lose nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Win twice the amount or Lose nothing. Perfect system.

(It's accomplished by using someone else's money to gamble. In particular the casino money. Freeplay. Such a powerful system. It blows EB's fake system out the water.)
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October 24th, 2023 at 7:55:43 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Meh, my system of winning at roulette is much more powerful.

I wager on any even chance bet. If I win I get the amount of my wager doubled. If I lose I lose nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Similar to a parlay bet. If you win double your next bet. If you win again take your winnings and add one unit to it and bet again. If you lose you only lose your original bet because you've been betting with the casinos money. In fact in the early days in Europe this was the most popular roulette wager because you only ever risked one unit at a time and you could potentially win a lot of money.
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October 24th, 2023 at 8:13:02 PM permalink
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You are making this up as you go along, aren't you?
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As a matter of fact, that's exactly right. I started in 2004 and I literally had to make it up as I went along because nobody was going to teach me anything. There was nobody to teach me anything. I had to learn it on my own by trial and error and make up my own strategies and test them and I was always optimistic even when a lot of them failed.
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October 24th, 2023 at 8:19:21 PM permalink
The vew counter reports 480 views since I checked last of this thread. According to Axel the actual view count is -27 because of all the technicalities involved. lol
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October 24th, 2023 at 11:16:50 PM permalink
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You are making this up as you go along, aren't you?
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Obviously he is because he can't remember his own claims.

Remember that previously he claimed he made usually only one wager, sometimes having to go to three wagers but always he could turn a profit within seven wagers. And going to seven was rare.

Now he's playing as many as 24 wagers.

(Not to mention he outlined in the past that his strategy involved wagering the dozens. But that was so long ago he forgot about that as well.)
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October 24th, 2023 at 11:51:27 PM permalink
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Now he's playing as many as 24 wagers.
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Yes that's what I used to do. I've done many things but I don't do that anymore. Do you think I played the way I play now for 19 years? I've played every way under the sun in the last 19 years but for some reason you people can't wrap your mind around that. Do you think what I'm doing today is what I've always done. How could that possibly be true. What's happening here is you don't really read my posts for comprehension, you just skim them and think you understand when obviously you don't. You constantly skim them to look for things to use against me, not to understand anything. And you just end up looking like well, you know. What people who do that look like. I would say it but I get suspended if I do.
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October 25th, 2023 at 2:08:57 AM permalink
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Now he's playing as many as 24 wagers.
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Yes that's what I used to do. I've done many things but I don't do that anymore. Do you think I played the way I play now for 19 years? I've played every way under the sun in the last 19 years but for some reason you people can't wrap your mind around that. Do you think what I'm doing today is what I've always done. How could that possibly be true. What's happening here is you don't really read my posts for comprehension, you just skim them and think you understand when obviously you don't. You constantly skim them to look for things to use against me, not to understand anything. And you just end up looking like well, you know. What people who do that look like. I would say it but I get suspended if I do.
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Got it.

You are describing all the things in roulette that lost money and didn't work in 19 years.

I'm sure you will come up with some more imaginary methods (systems)
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October 25th, 2023 at 6:12:08 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

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You are making this up as you go along, aren't you?
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Obviously he is because he can't remember his own claims.
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And he often contradicts himself, sometimes literally within the same sentence or post.

The truth is whatever EvenBob needs it to be in that exact instant, and you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:05:58 AM permalink
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You are describing all the things in roulette that lost money and didn't work in 19 years.
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Never had one that lost money they just don't make money very fast, or mostly they are too complicated to use at a real Casino. There are lots of things you can do in practice at home that you think are good and you get into a real casino and they don't work at all because they are too complicated. One thing that people don't think about when you're at home is all the distractions that are in a casino. At home you might be able to concentrate 100% on what you're doing but in a casino you're lucky if you can get 75 or 80%. . So whatever method you use has to be Spartan in nature, really simple and really effective.

Online casinos that you play at home, you have no distractions but they've done something else. They're giving you almost no time to make a bet. I have no idea how other people play roulette at home but I'm convinced they enter the same bets every time by hitting the repeat button. I can't do that, every bet I make is unique so I have to be able to look at my sheet and know what the next bet is. Luckily I've been doing this for so long that it's easy.
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:10:07 AM permalink
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This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers. They make the spaces where you place the bets so small that is easy to make a mistake and my computer screen is a 24 inch monitor. By the time I get ready to make the bets I've got maybe 5 seconds left to make five bets and by the time you've done two or three or four of these you're a nervous wreck. So this is why I came up with the 80% thing and only making one unit online.



And just like when I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be playing online, and you scoffed at that, only to eventually start playing on Bovada.

And just like I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be using multiple monitors computers, and casinos, you scoffed at that as well, only to start doing some version of that.

And just like I told you, If you actually had a winning method you could have someone write a program to aid or automate your play. You scoffed at that as well but it's true you could.

P.S. I would have to go back and look but, I believe you claimed the 80% hit rate before you started playing online, so this new story doesn't seem to jive either.
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:10:28 AM permalink
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The truth is whatever EvenBob needs it to be in that exact instant,
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It's kind of flattering that you people think I make all this stuff up instantly and write about it like I've been doing it for years. You know how smart I would have to be to do that, and you apparently think I am that smart. But obviously that's not true because there are people here who know I've been talking about this online since 2006. I had over 20,000 posts on that gambling forum talking about roulette long before I came here. So even though I'm extremely flattered I'm afraid this has been going on for a really long time.
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:14:40 AM permalink
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This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers. They make the spaces where you place the bets so small that is easy to make a mistake and my computer screen is a 24 inch monitor. By the time I get ready to make the bets I've got maybe 5 seconds left to make five bets and by the time you've done two or three or four of these you're a nervous wreck. So this is why I came up with the 80% thing and only making one unit online.



And just like when I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be playing online, and you scoffed at that, only to eventually start playing on Bovada.

And just like I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be using multiple monitors computers, and casinos, you scoffed at that as well, only to start doing some version of that.

And just like I told you, If you actually had a winning method you could have someone write a program to aid or automate your play.

P.S. I would have to go back and look but, I believe you claimed the 80% hit rate before you started playing online, so this new story doesn't seem to jive either.
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He's obviously pulling stuff out of his ass and flinging it at the wall, hoping something sticks. One can only hope he cooks better than his attempts to write fiction.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:18:09 AM permalink
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This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers. They make the spaces where you place the bets so small that is easy to make a mistake and my computer screen is a 24 inch monitor. By the time I get ready to make the bets I've got maybe 5 seconds left to make five bets and by the time you've done two or three or four of these you're a nervous wreck. So this is why I came up with the 80% thing and only making one unit online.



And just like when I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be playing online, and you scoffed at that, only to eventually start playing on Bovada.

And just like I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be using multiple monitors computers, and casinos, you scoffed at that as well, only to start doing some version of that.

And just like I told you, If you actually had a winning method you could have someone write a program to aid or automate your play.

P.S. I would have to go back and look but, I believe you claimed the 80% hit rate before you started playing online, so this new story doesn't seem to jive either.
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Through all the nasty things you said to me, you've actually been quite helpful on a lot of things and had some good suggestions. Yeah the 80% thing I already had going before I played online because there were just too many times when I couldn't play at the only wheel they had going at the casino so I had to figure out a way to win just one unit and leave. But that was years ago now because I haven't been in a brick and mortar Casino since December of 2019 because covid came along in early 2020 and everything shut down. And then right in the middle of covid Michigan approved online gambling so the rest is history.
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:19:51 AM permalink
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This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers. They make the spaces where you place the bets so small that is easy to make a mistake and my computer screen is a 24 inch monitor. By the time I get ready to make the bets I've got maybe 5 seconds left to make five bets and by the time you've done two or three or four of these you're a nervous wreck. So this is why I came up with the 80% thing and only making one unit online.



And just like when I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be playing online, and you scoffed at that, only to eventually start playing on Bovada.

And just like I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be using multiple monitors computers, and casinos, you scoffed at that as well, only to start doing some version of that.

And just like I told you, If you actually had a winning method you could have someone write a program to aid or automate your play.

P.S. I would have to go back and look but, I believe you claimed the 80% hit rate before you started playing online, so this new story doesn't seem to jive either.
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He's obviously pulling stuff out of his ass and flinging it at the wall, hoping something sticks. One can only hope he cooks better than his attempts to write fiction.
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Obviously, I assumed that from early on, the more he yarns the more apparent it becomes to the 400 viewers he claims( more like 15, if that).
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:21:46 AM permalink
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He's obviously pulling stuff out of his ass and flinging it at the wall,
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Nope. Read the post before the last one, there are people here who know I've been posting about this stuff since 2006 and anything I'm saying is nothing new. I wish we had access to Gamblers Glen where I have over 20,000 posts about this but I understand is it's been taken over by viruses and it's very dangerous to go there. But if we could you would instantly see that this has been a subject of mine for a really long time. But like I said I am flattered that you think I'm smart enough to make stuff like this up instantly, I wish that was true. LOL
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:24:45 AM permalink
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the 400 viewers he claims( more like 15, if that).
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I think you're mistaken, I think the actual number of viewers is negative. I think if it says 400 views it really means that nobody actually looked at the thread. In fact we're not looking at it right now it's an illusion. LOL
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:32:09 AM permalink
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This is not possible to do online because they just don't give you enough time to write down the three outcomes, figure out which ones to bet on and then bet the inside numbers. They make the spaces where you place the bets so small that is easy to make a mistake and my computer screen is a 24 inch monitor. By the time I get ready to make the bets I've got maybe 5 seconds left to make five bets and by the time you've done two or three or four of these you're a nervous wreck. So this is why I came up with the 80% thing and only making one unit online.



And just like when I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be playing online, and you scoffed at that, only to eventually start playing on Bovada.

And just like I told you if you actually had a winning method you should be using multiple monitors computers, and casinos, you scoffed at that as well, only to start doing some version of that.

And just like I told you, If you actually had a winning method you could have someone write a program to aid or automate your play.

P.S. I would have to go back and look but, I believe you claimed the 80% hit rate before you started playing online, so this new story doesn't seem to jive either.
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Through all the nasty things you said to me, you've actually been quite helpful on a lot of things and had some good suggestions. Yeah the 80% thing I already had going before I played online because there were just too many times when I couldn't play at the only wheel they had going at the casino so I had to figure out a way to win just one unit and leave. But that was years ago now because I haven't been in a brick and mortar Casino since December of 2019 because covid came along in early 2020 and everything shut down. And then right in the middle of covid Michigan approved online gambling so the rest is history.
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Well Bob, Instead of being cantankerous to most people, perhaps you should have tried a different approach and sought help and not been so closed minded/stubborn.

While I don't believe it's possible to beat random -EV games straight up, I certainly know a thing or two about how to problem-solve, take advantage of things, and scale up. I offered to help you despite not believing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 25th, 2023 at 8:51:49 AM permalink
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While I don't believe it's possible to beat random -EV games straight up,
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It's not a religion, it's not something you believe in or don't believe in. And it's only a negative EV game because you haven't figured out how to make it positive. They told you it was a negative game and you believed them and did not look at it any further. Luckily for me when I discovered roulette I had no idea you couldn't beat it, so I went ahead and beat it. Or found a way to make some money at it once in awhile. Like I said before you really can't beat a casino game, all you can do is find a back door that you can use occasionally.
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October 25th, 2023 at 9:07:36 AM permalink
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...I went ahead and beat it.....Like I said before you really can't beat a casino game....
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LOL
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October 25th, 2023 at 10:05:27 AM permalink
Can one be consistently inconsistent?
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October 25th, 2023 at 11:25:09 AM permalink
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One thing that people don't think about when you're at home is all the distractions that are in a casino. At home you might be able to concentrate 100% on what you're doing but in a casino you're lucky if you can get 75 or 80%. . So whatever method you use has to be Spartan in nature, really simple and really effective.
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In the early days I had an awful time playing in a casino because of all the noise. What I did took a great deal of concentration and the noise and the visual distractions took away at least 20% of my ability to concentrate. For a while I wore ear plugs and a hat with a large brim so I can pull it down and block out a lot of the visual stuff. I didn't discover roulette till I was 55 so I was no kid, and the older you get the more distractions bother you. I eventually learned not to sit at the table at all and just keep track of everything away from the table and then walk up and make my bets. This got me in trouble in Las Vegas more than once because the pit thought I was tracking the wheel for visual ballistics and they would hassle me about it. Or I would be sitting at a slot machine writing down outcomes and of course some woman 90% of the time would want to play the machine that I'm sitting at even though the row of machines was empty. She just knew the casino gods were keeping her from playing that one good machine. Eventually I refused to get up and usually they would just go away but sometimes they would get security and make me move. LOL
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October 25th, 2023 at 4:30:48 PM permalink
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While I don't believe it's possible to beat random -EV games straight up,
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It's not a religion, it's not something you believe in or don't believe in. And it's only a negative EV game because you haven't figured out how to make it positive. They told you it was a negative game and you believed them and did not look at it any further. Luckily for me when I discovered roulette I had no idea you couldn't beat it, so I went ahead and beat it. Or found a way to make some money at it once in awhile. Like I said before you really can't beat a casino game, all you can do is find a back door that you can use occasionally.
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They told me I shouldn't put my pecker in a light socket. I haven't actually figured out I shouldn't do that on my own. I haven't figured out on my own ...it would be a -EV experience. I will refer to the experts on that. The math and science has been done for me.

You can continue to stick things where they have been proven they don't belong, eventually something bad will happen.
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October 25th, 2023 at 4:58:49 PM permalink
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The math and science has been done for me.
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Luckily I had no idea of the math and science behind roulette, I never would have attempted to play it if I had known. I honest to God thought when I'm sitting there in 2004 beating the crap out of this wheel, I thought well, this must be how the roulette experts beat this game. Little did I know.. LOL
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October 26th, 2023 at 6:07:04 AM permalink
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Luckily I had no idea of the math and science behind roulette, I never would have attempted to play it if I had known. I honest to God thought when I'm sitting there in 2004 beating the crap out of this wheel, I thought well, this must be how the roulette experts beat this game. Little did I know.. LOL
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Schrodinger's Roulette Wheel.

As long as you don't know the game is -EV, you'll continue to win.

Just continue to ignore the math, or else the wave function will collapse and you'll start losing.
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October 26th, 2023 at 6:44:05 AM permalink
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Luckily I had no idea of the math and science behind roulette, I never would have attempted to play it if I had known.


the game of roulette has been played in its present form for more than 300 years

truly amazing that you either didn't realize it had been analyzed by experts

or you just didn't care to learn about its analysis before you started playing and fantasizing that you had a winning system - excuse me - "method"

but then again - gambling experts - what do they know_____?_________you know much more than them don't you___?______sure you do_____in your dreams

.
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October 26th, 2023 at 6:51:27 AM permalink
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Luckily I had no idea of the math and science behind roulette, I never would have attempted to play it if I had known.


the game of roulette has been played in its present form for more than 300 years

truly amazing that you either didn't think it had been analyzed by experts

or you didn't care to learn about its analysis before you started playing and fantasizing that you had a winning system - excuse me - "method"

but then again - gambling experts - what do they know_____?_________you know much more than them don't you___?______sure you do_____in your dreams

.
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If you folks spent less time mocking eb, and more time following his method, then you too could have a house infested with cats and a lifetime supply of candles.
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October 26th, 2023 at 6:55:46 AM permalink
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the game of roulette has been played in its present form for more than 300 years

truly amazing that you either didn't realize it had been analyzed by experts

or you just didn't care to learn about its analysis before you started playing and fantasizing that you had a winning system - excuse me - "method"

but then again - gambling experts - what do they know_____?_________you know much more than them don't you___?______sure you do_____in your dreams

.
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EB is an absolute textbook example of a Roulette system player.

Claims he has a way to consistently win at the game.

Claims the math "doesn't apply" to him for whatever magical reason.

Claims to have discovered patterns in past results.

Claims he has found "the secret" to winning at Roulette, yet refuses to submit it to scrutiny.

If you wanted to create a completely stereotypical Roulette system player from scratch, you could do no better than EvenBob....LOL
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October 26th, 2023 at 7:17:00 AM permalink
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If you folks spent less time mocking eb, and more time following his method, then you too could have a house infested with cats and a lifetime supply of candles.
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Even without following The Method (I have no idea what it is, so I can't), there's cats scratching up the furniture, peeing on my luggage, and a disturbingly large box of PartyLite bric-a-brac in the garage.
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