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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
If this thread got closed, what would keep the formerly contained topic from migrating off to another of about 300 old threads?
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the Mods won't stop it
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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
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Yep they moan and groan and complain when these threads are going on but they won't block it and as soon as it's closed they scream and yell and pull their hair out. What right do you have to close a thread! You just have to ignore them all they want is attention.
Somebody you will never hear complain is the owners of this site. These threads about what I do typically get between 350 and 500 views a day, sometimes more. You will never hear a site owner complain about too many views because that's how they make their money, that's what they show advertisers to calculate how much they can charge. Now somebody will say, that's just you Bob, you check the thread 300 or 400 times a day which is totally laughable. I spend less time here than anybody because I have so much to do this time of the year. I've already spent 5 hours outside today and I'm not done.
Quote: EvenBobThese threads about what I do typically get between 350 and 500 views a day,
people view the thread because they enjoy seeing OnceDear and Axel and DarkOz and others bash EB's garbage
not because they want to read about EB's "method"
it's the worst thread in the history of WoV
by far
no other thread is even remotely close in terms of horribleness
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people view the thread because they enjoy
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People view it for various reasons, but mostly because it's entertaining. As far as it being horrible, that's just silly.
Quote: vegasIf everyone stopped posting the thread would die a natural death. No sense repeating the same stuff over and over. There is no way anyone is going to change their opinion so geez guys give it up and move on.
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I've said the same thing over and over, just block it if you don't like it ain't nobody ever does. It's mostly because no matter what they say a part of them believes that I am not making anything up. I've been doing this for too long, I've been talking about this online for almost 18 years and who makes stuff up out of whole cloth for 18 years. Nobody. I can spot fakeness a mile away is soaking a lot of people and this isn't fake. I do what I say I do and they know it.
I started talking about this on a forum in 2006 that was totally unmoderated, you could say anything you wanted to anybody. You could call them every name in the book, use four letter words, insult their families, make threats against them, anything. And I posted there for 4 years putting up with that. You think anything that is said to me here bothers me after going through all that? And I still kept posting because I do what I say I do. I'm much better at it now than I was then, but that's beside the point.
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people view the thread because they enjoy seeing OnceDear, Axel and DarkOz and others bash EB's garbage.
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People view it for various reasons, but mostly because it's entertaining.
nothing entertaining about a man who loves to post foolish drivel so he can see his name at the top of a page
the garbage just needs to be shot down immediately so everybody knows it's garbage
Quote: EvenBobIt's mostly because no matter what they say a part of them believes that I am not making anything up.
wrong - just about nobody - there may be a very few exceptions - believes any of your tall tales
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"Patterns in gambling often refer to the perception of trends or sequences in games of chance. It's important to note that, in games of pure chance, such as slot machines and roulette, each event is independent of previous outcomes. In such games, there are no reliable patterns that can influence the outcome."
This is absolutely true every outcome is totally independent. There are no patterns that can physically influence the outcome. But in some instances a pattern can be exploited to make an educated guess, based on observation and experience, as to what the next outcome might be.
"Patterns in gambling are often perceived rather than real, and many of these patterns are based on cognitive biases and misconceptions. Most casino games are designed to be statistically fair, and outcomes are determined by chance, not by patterns or previous results."
This is what I've always said, the patterns you think you see are not real, they are perceived. But this does not mean they cannot be exploited in the extreme short term. The big mistake people make is they try to extend how much exploitation they can get out of a pattern. I made that mistake for years. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't, it's extremely undependable. What is dependable is trying to make just one unit from a perceived pattern or trend. This flies in the face of what gambling is all about, that you're just supposed to sit there and play and play and play. Most gamblers are not capable of winning one unit and stopping, it's not fun, it goes against everything they see around them. But it's the only strategy that works effectively most of the time. And because the limit in the amount you can bet on most roulette tables is quite high, making just one unit can be very lucrative.
Hands down it's clear that AI could never compete with humans for crafting fiction and the writers could have ended their strike months earlier.
NO YOU DON'T GET THAT MANY VIEWS!Quote: EvenBobQuote: DieterQuote: lilredrooster.
the Mods won't stop it
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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
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Yep they moan and groan and complain when these threads are going on but they won't block it and as soon as it's closed they scream and yell and pull their hair out. What right do you have to close a thread! You just have to ignore them all they want is attention.
Somebody you will never hear complain is the owners of this site. These threads about what I do typically get between 350 and 500 views a day, sometimes more. You will never hear a site owner complain about too many views because that's how they make their money, that's what they show advertisers to calculate how much they can charge. Now somebody will say, that's just you Bob, you check the thread 300 or 400 times a day which is totally laughable. I spend less time here than anybody because I have so much to do this time of the year. I've already spent 5 hours outside today and I'm not done.
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Please do your research before making this claim.
I never got a legitimate answer as to why yiu let EvenBob close threads he started??Quote: DieterQuote: lilredrooster.
the Mods won't stop it
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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
If this thread got closed, what would keep the formerly contained topic from migrating off to another of about 300 old threads?
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Was that sanctioned by the Wizard?
Quote: AxelWolfI never got a legitimate answer as to why yiu let EvenBob close threads he started??Quote: DieterQuote: lilredrooster.
the Mods won't stop it
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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
If this thread got closed, what would keep the formerly contained topic from migrating off to another of about 300 old threads?
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Was that sanctioned by the Wizard?
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I deemed the threads to no longer offer value to the forum and closed them. EvenBob may have suggested it, but I closed the threads.
I don't know that it was approved or rejected by Wizard.
(My pedantry doesn't know which definition of sanction you intend, but I think neither applies.)
Quote: AxelWolfNO YOU DON'T GET THAT MANY VIEWS!
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Just telling you what the view counter says. They are obviously not all unique views but a view is a view.
Quote: DieterQuote: AxelWolfI never got a legitimate answer as to why yiu let EvenBob close threads he started??Quote: DieterQuote: lilredrooster.
the Mods won't stop it
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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
If this thread got closed, what would keep the formerly contained topic from migrating off to another of about 300 old threads?
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Was that sanctioned by the Wizard?
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I deemed the threads to no longer offer value to the forum and closed them. EvenBob may have suggested it, but I closed the threads.
I don't know that it was approved or rejected by Wizard.
(My pedantry doesn't know which definition of sanction you intend, but I think neither applies.)
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As opposed to this thread, which certainly is of enormous value.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterQuote: AxelWolfI never got a legitimate answer as to why yiu let EvenBob close threads he started??Quote: DieterQuote: lilredrooster.
the Mods won't stop it
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I seem to recall an outrage when similar threads were closed a while back.
If this thread got closed, what would keep the formerly contained topic from migrating off to another of about 300 old threads?
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Was that sanctioned by the Wizard?
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I deemed the threads to no longer offer value to the forum and closed them. EvenBob may have suggested it, but I closed the threads.
I don't know that it was approved or rejected by Wizard.
(My pedantry doesn't know which definition of sanction you intend, but I think neither applies.)
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As opposed to this thread, which certainly is of enormous value.
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No, but I'm unconvinced that closure would be an improvement. Deletion would seem wrong, and hiding unmerited.
This thread may be blocked by clicking https://wizardofvegas.com/block-thread/3831/ or the convenient "Block Thread" button near the top of the page.
If you were a forum noob I could excus your ignorance of how messed up the view counter is here. But, you have been on the forums for year's and have the most posts here.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfNO YOU DON'T GET THAT MANY VIEWS!
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Just telling you what the view counter says. They are obviously not all unique views but a view is a view.
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If this is how you run your roulette and Baccarat play, I understand why think you're winning.
All actions once you click a thread causes the counter to add a view. This includes, but it not limited to...
Editing a post, thanking a post, previewing a post, moving between pages in a thread, making a post, checking formating codes, adding a picture/video, navigating to a new part of the forum etc. This post alone will probably cause 5 views alone. I haven't any clue what happens with the moderator actions or how many views they cause behind scenes.
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As opposed to this thread, which certainly is of enormous value.
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I like to think of it as a cautionary tale......
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Editing a post, thanking a post, previewing a post, moving between pages in a thread, making a post, checking formating codes, adding a picture/video, navigating to a new part of the forum etc. T
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No kidding, duh. And every single one of those actions is almost never done. So deduct a couple percentage points off 350 to 500 a day, Zippity Doo Dah..
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As opposed to this thread, which certainly is of enormous value.
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I like to think of it as a cautionary tale......
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I want to think this will one day be a case study for business students, but the truth is it just isn't significant enough.
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I want to think this will one day be a case study for business students, but the truth is it just isn't significant enough.
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Maybe not business schools, but definitely casino management classes:
Professor: "Alright, class, this is EvenBob. This is exactly the kind of customer we want because he is a consistent player who thinks he can 'beat' the casino with a 'system.' Now, you've all reviewed the case -- who thinks they can tell us some of the many flaws in EvenBob's 'system?'"
Every hand in the classroom shoots up at once.
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I want to think this will one day be a case study for business students, but the truth is it just isn't significant enough.
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Maybe not business schools, but definitely casino management classes:
Professor: "Alright, class, this is EvenBob. This is exactly the kind of customer we want because he is a consistent player who thinks he can 'beat' the casino with a 'system.' Now, you've all reviewed the case -- who thinks they can tell us some of the many flaws in EvenBob's 'system?'"
Every hand in the classroom shoots up at once.
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EvenBob in front of the class. "Okay, how many have you tried my method?" 17 hands shoot up. "How many of you got positive results with my method?." 17 hands shoot up. "How many of you won significant money with my method?" 17 hands shoot up.
Quote: billryanIf seventeen people tried ebobs nonsense, I'd expect at least twenty-six would have the same results.
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Yeah, but just imagine what those 26 people could do with their $2 a day in roulette profits! They could change the world!
All thanks to EB and his unbeatable Roulette system...
Quote: EvenBobOne of the things that makes roulette so manageable is I'm only dealing with 37 pockets on a single zero wheel. There's only so many things that can happen with 36 numbers and they tend to happen again and again and again. If you did the calculations you'll see there's millions of different combinations but I look at the outcomes 12 numbers at a time. I break the 36 into thirds so I'm looking at a section of 12 numbers as a unit and looking at it that way. It cuts way down on what can actually happen. If you study it long enough you see the same scenarios over and over and you eventually learn when is the best time to make a bet. This only happens for very short periods of time which is unappealing to most players. Instead of just to making a couple of units they want to play for extended periods and this almost always ends badly because the more of your bankroll that you expose to the casino and to the house edge the more likely you are to lose it. Playing for very short periods and betting only at the opportune moment can give you an edge far greater than the casinos. But it takes a huge amount of discipline to get there and the one thing most gamblers are bad at is discipline. The ones who are capable of it usually do quite well.
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When I sit down the first thing I do is write down the last 12 numbers and how they are represented in black and red, odd and even, high and low. This will tell me immediately what is trending, what are the patterns, what is dominating. And I have to be able to do it with just a glance because they only give you 20 seconds online to write stuff down, decide what you're going to bet on, and make your bet. Is a brick and mortar Casino it's much different you have two or three minutes in between spins.
Quote: billryanIf seventeen people tried ebobs nonsense, I'd expect at least twenty-six would have the same results.
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EvenBob asks the class how many didn't try his method and seven raised their hands. He called on the guy in the front row who was eating a taco and it was dripping all over his shirt, he asked him why didn't you try my method? Taco man replied, 'duh dude, I did the math and it's a big loser.' EvenBob asks how do you explain all these other classmates who tried it and it worked for every one of them. Taco man responded, with taco juice running down his chin, "That's obvious dude, they're all lying." The rest of the class erupted in laughter..
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When I sit down the first thing I do is write down the last 12 numbers and how they are represented in black and red, odd and even, high and low. This will tell me immediately what is trending, what are the patterns, what is dominating. And I have to be able to do it with just a glance because they only give you 20 seconds online to write stuff down, decide what you're going to bet on, and make your bet. Is a brick and mortar Casino it's much different you have two or three minutes .
My 5 year old knows you don't have to write down the last 12 outcomes in roulette for even/odd etc.
It's right there supplied by the casino.
How can someone with decades of roulette experience not know to look at the supplied outcomes?
Has this whole exercise been by someone who doesn't even play roulette????
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It's right there supplied by the casino.
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The streams have to be recorded in a very specific way so they all look exactly the same, it's kind of a code that I invented. This makes it easy to just glance at all three and know exactly what's going on. Sometimes a pit cretin will demand to see what I'm writing and he'll stare at it for 15 or 20 seconds and hand it back pretending him he knows what it is when I know damn well he doesn't. They never ask because they would be showing their ignorance. And I never volunteer anything.
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It's right there supplied by the casino.
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The streams have to be recorded in a very specific way so they all look exactly the same, it's kind of a code that I invented. This makes it easy to just glance at all three and know exactly what's going on. Sometimes a pit cretin will demand to see what I'm writing and he'll stare at it for 15 or 20 seconds and hand it back pretending him he knows what it is when I know damn well he doesn't. They never ask because they would be showing their ignorance. And I never volunteer anything.
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So part of your educated guessing is to overlay the results of three separate and distinct tables and see if the patterns match before realizing they are running the same and it's time for a wager?
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So part of your educated guessing is to overlay the results of three separate and distinct tables and see if the patterns match before realizing they are running the same and it's time for a wager?
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No. In fact when they're running the same is the time when not to bet. It does happen that sometimes two of the three will mirror each other for a long time and it drives me nuts. It used to be in a brick and mortar Casino I would make up my own even chance using the streets because I was only playing one wheel. But now that I have access to so many wheels at the same time online I don't have to do that anymore. For the way I play when they mirror each other it's useless.
I haven't any clue what you are talking about" Every single one of those actions are almost never done" a few if those are done multiple times by each reader/poster. Even if one person decides to look at all the pages on this thread it will count as the number of pages plus more. Just exiting the thread causes a view I believe.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
All actions once you click a thread causes the counter to add a view. This includes, but it not limited to...
Editing a post, thanking a post, previewing a post, moving between pages in a thread, making a post, checking formating codes, adding a picture/video, navigating to a new part of the forum etc. T
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No kidding, duh. And every single one of those actions is almost never done. So deduct a couple percentage points off 350 to 500 a day, Zippity Doo Dah..
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Let me make it more clear for you. Basicly, anytime you click anything at all while in a thread it adds a view. Each time you make one post it counts as 3-5 any other actions just adds more views. I just edited my and that adds like 2 views.
Click on the thread 1 view.
Navigate to the next page 1 view.
Click reply or quote 1 view.
Click save post 1 view.
Clixk Edit post 1 view.
Save edited post 1 view.
Exit thread 1 View.
7 views just to make one post in that scenario
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Any other action where you click something adds views.
Quote: AxelWolfLet's see if I can break it down.
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This Thread has had 540 views since yesterday according to the view counter. Good enough for me.
I'm sure inaccurate thinking and incorrect data IS good enough for you. It makes total sense that you came up with a nonsense 80% hit rate and would have us believe you can beat roulette.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfLet's see if I can break it down.
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This Thread has had 540 views since yesterday according to the view counter. Good enough for me.
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Quote: AxelWolfI'm sure inaccurate thinking
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Why would I possibly care what the absolutely accurate number of views is. Who cares, what does it matter. All it means is you would have to do that with every thread and the proportion would still be the same. So why worry about it, I'm sorry but I'm just not that anal. Stuff like this does not concern me in the least. It's like I have a winning method so why do I care that 100 people say you can't do that. Does that mean I should stop because that's their opinion? I don't think so.. If every inventor in the past listened to their critics we would still be hauling stuff around with horses and lighting our houses with kerosene lamps.
Up till this remarkable snippet.Quote: EvenBobAnd I never volunteer anything
Quote: EvenBobI look at the outcomes 12 numbers at a time. I break the 36 into thirds so I'm looking at a section of 12 numbers as a unit and looking at it that way. It cuts way down on what can actually happen. If you study it long enough you see the same scenarios over and over and you eventually learn when is the best time to make a bet.
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When I sit down the first thing I do is write down the last 12 numbers and how they are represented in black and red, odd and even, high and low.
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfI'm sure inaccurate thinking
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Why would I possibly care what the absolutely accurate number of views is. Who cares, what does it matter. All it means is you would have to do that with every thread and the proportion would still be the same. So why worry about it, I'm sorry but I'm just not that anal. Stuff like this does not concern me in the least. It's like I have a winning method so why do I care that 100 people say you can't do that. Does that mean I should stop because that's their opinion? I don't think so.. If every inventor in the past listened to their critics we would still be hauling stuff around with horses and lighting our houses with kerosene lamps.
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You bring up a subject. You wrongly explain the issue. Then when it's pointed out how incredibly wrong you are about it, you now don't care about the very thing you were so proud of in your initial post. What a sad existence.
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You bring up a subject. You wrongly explain the issue. Then when it's pointed out how incredibly wrong you are about it, you now don't care about the very thing you were so proud of in your initial post. What a sad existence.
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LOL
EB brags about his view count. Then when he's mocked about it he pretends to not care.
He also claims he spends less time in this forum than anyone, despite having more posts than anyone by a margin of thousands.
Sad existence, indeed.
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Then when he's mocked about it he pretends to not care.
He also claims he spends less time in this forum than anyone,
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I'm not pretending, I don't care. And go look at my profile page and click on posts and you'll see that I participate in very very few threads. This means it takes me almost no time at all to stay caught up. If there's a thread I don't like or that I'll never want to see you again which is 95% of them I delete it immediately. If you doubt that I will gladly post a screenshot of my homepage you can see that it's totally different than yours because of all the deleted threads. The only threads on my homepage are the ones that I participate in.
It just goes to show that you don't care if things are real/right/legit/work or don't work. When your opinion is wrong while backed up with proven math, science, and data, you probably should care. You only care about convincing others you are right, even if you are wrong.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfI'm sure inaccurate thinking
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Why would I possibly care what the absolutely accurate number of views is. Who cares, what does it matter. All it means is you would have to do that with every thread and the proportion would still be the same. So why worry about it, I'm sorry but I'm just not that anal. Stuff like this does not concern me in the least. It's like I have a winning method so why do I care that 100 people say you can't do that. Does that mean I should stop because that's their opinion? I don't think so.. If every inventor in the past listened to their critics we would still be hauling stuff around with horses and lighting our houses with kerosene lamps.
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Quote: AxelWolfYou only care about convincing others you are right,
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And you don't? Give me a break..
Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfYou only care about convincing others you are right,
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And you don't? Give me a break..
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There is a subtle difference here. Axel is the patient school teacher telling you that 2+2 =4. You are the petulant child who keeps insisting 2+2= 67.
You are the sovereign citizen insisting you have the right to travel and the rules of reality don't apply to you.
You truly are a Special Boy.
Only if I'm actually right, with... data, math and science to back it up. Show us your data math or science.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfYou only care about convincing others you are right,
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And you don't? Give me a break..
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When I'm wrong or don't know something, I'm one of the first people to admit it and I love to learn from people who are knowledgeable about things I'm not.
Quote: AxelWolfShow us your data math or science.
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Oh, god, now you've done it..... he's going to respond with "show me the math that says I CAN'T do it"
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There is a subtle difference here. Axel is the patient school teacher
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Guffaw, choking on my Ice Mountain sparkling BlackBerry soda.. Lol
Quote: AxelWolfOnly if I'm actually right,
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Yet you constantly make absolutely 100% wrong statements and observations and conclusions about what I do and think that you're actually right. So pot calling the kettle black and all that good stuff..
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Oh, god, now you've done it..... he's going to respond with "show me the math that says I CAN'T do it"
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Naw, been there done that, you got nothing to show me I haven't seen five times and debunked five times. Not going down that road again..
Or he could hang around a forum and be mocked all day.
I can see how that might be a tough decision for some.
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Oh, god, now you've done it..... he's going to respond with "show me the math that says I CAN'T do it"
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Naw, been there done that, you got nothing to show me I haven't seen five times and debunked five times. Not going down that road again..
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Another post where EB claims to have debunked the known laws of mathematics and statistics....LOL
Someone get this man some help.