Is AP'ing worth it anymore?
Quote: sevencard2003of course u use a card. thats where a big part of the payback comes. for example, go to Ballys shreveport if u have never had a card there before since it changed ownership from the eldorado. lose $5000-6000 and leave, dont come back for months and u might get the same mail offer i did offering $300 free bet 17 times during the month. (that coupon is worth slightly less than half its face value)
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Wow amazing ap play there Tony. Lose $5-6k and get back $5100 in free bets that are worth half their value…
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yeah, I've read quite a few of KewlJ's posts at different places
in the last one I saw he stated his top bet was $1K
for me - his story is really hard to believe - that he can get away with this for so long
all of the big casinos have to know who he is - and they're going to let him keep beating up on them endlessly______?
I guess it's possible - but the Managers at these casinos are not stupid - it would seem they would have to be for his stories to all be true
he started posting here in 2012 - I wanna here about this from somebody else
it's now getting close to 50 years of casino experience with counters
.
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what people forget is that the vast majority of card counters who gamble for a living lose heavily and this is why so many casinos dont care if they are counting or not.
me, when i am counting, they dont realize im counting and dont mind me playing, (except for about 10 out of 800 casinos in the USA who told me i can only play other games but not BJ) because i only play 6 or 8 decks, never 1 or 2, never take insurance regardless of the count, and never split tens, and never raise the bet unless i lose the prior hand, regardless of the count. do these things and they wont know u are counting, but then again, there goes most of your edge.
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So you don’t you use indices and you don’t raise your bet based on the count… so you’re not counting lol. You forgot to add in the ever so amazing martingale method that you use.
Quote: PokerGrinderQuote: sevencard2003of course u use a card. thats where a big part of the payback comes. for example, go to Ballys shreveport if u have never had a card there before since it changed ownership from the eldorado. lose $5000-6000 and leave, dont come back for months and u might get the same mail offer i did offering $300 free bet 17 times during the month. (that coupon is worth slightly less than half its face value)
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Wow amazing ap play there Tony. Lose $5-6k and get back $5100 in free bets that are worth half their value…
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Lose money on every play, but make it up with volume. That sounds like a plan.
The only thing better than having a plan is having a good one.
He is a pirate who has never boarded a merchant ship and stolen the cargo. But, he has an eye patch, a parrot, and a jolly roger so he is definitely a pirate.Quote: PokerGrinderSo you don’t you use indices and you don’t raise your bet based on the count… so you’re not counting lol. You forgot to add in the ever so amazing martingale method that you use.
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Quote: billryanQuote: PokerGrinderQuote: sevencard2003of course u use a card. thats where a big part of the payback comes. for example, go to Ballys shreveport if u have never had a card there before since it changed ownership from the eldorado. lose $5000-6000 and leave, dont come back for months and u might get the same mail offer i did offering $300 free bet 17 times during the month. (that coupon is worth slightly less than half its face value)
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Wow amazing ap play there Tony. Lose $5-6k and get back $5100 in free bets that are worth half their value…
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Lose money on every play, but make it up with volume. That sounds like a plan.
The only thing better than having a plan is having a good one.
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Don’t forget the free rooms he gets which make him an overall better winner lol…
Quote: MentalHe is a pirate who has never boarded a merchant ship and stolen the cargo. But, he has an eye patch, a parrot, and a jolly roger so he is definitely a pirate.Quote: PokerGrinderSo you don’t you use indices and you don’t raise your bet based on the count… so you’re not counting lol. You forgot to add in the ever so amazing martingale method that you use.
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I love this post so much, touché sir.
Quote: PokerGrinderQuote: sevencard2003Quote: lilredrooster.
yeah, I've read quite a few of KewlJ's posts at different places
in the last one I saw he stated his top bet was $1K
for me - his story is really hard to believe - that he can get away with this for so long
all of the big casinos have to know who he is - and they're going to let him keep beating up on them endlessly______?
I guess it's possible - but the Managers at these casinos are not stupid - it would seem they would have to be for his stories to all be true
he started posting here in 2012 - I wanna here about this from somebody else
it's now getting close to 50 years of casino experience with counters
.
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what people forget is that the vast majority of card counters who gamble for a living lose heavily and this is why so many casinos dont care if they are counting or not.
me, when i am counting, they dont realize im counting and dont mind me playing, (except for about 10 out of 800 casinos in the USA who told me i can only play other games but not BJ) because i only play 6 or 8 decks, never 1 or 2, never take insurance regardless of the count, and never split tens, and never raise the bet unless i lose the prior hand, regardless of the count. do these things and they wont know u are counting, but then again, there goes most of your edge.
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So you don’t you use indices and you don’t raise your bet based on the count… so you’re not counting lol. You forgot to add in the ever so amazing martingale method that you use.
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doesnt matter if u use the count to decide how much to bet, as long as u know exactly what the count is at all times and use it to decide whether to hit or stand 12 v 3, 16 v 10, etc, u are still counting. but it sure does a good job of making it difficult for the pit to tell u are counting. also i only start doubling the bets if the counts plus til i win a unit and start over. if its negative i just keep flat betting or wonging out if theres 1 other player at my table.
Quote: billryanQuote: PokerGrinderQuote: sevencard2003of course u use a card. thats where a big part of the payback comes. for example, go to Ballys shreveport if u have never had a card there before since it changed ownership from the eldorado. lose $5000-6000 and leave, dont come back for months and u might get the same mail offer i did offering $300 free bet 17 times during the month. (that coupon is worth slightly less than half its face value)
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Wow amazing ap play there Tony. Lose $5-6k and get back $5100 in free bets that are worth half their value…
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Lose money on every play, but make it up with volume. That sounds like a plan.
The only thing better than having a plan is having a good one.
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had i won i mightve got the same offer. if not, i was still essentially either winning $5000-6000 worth of bets or getting a third to a half of it eventually returned some months down the road. so i was freerolling them.
Quote: sevencard2003Quote: PokerGrinderQuote: sevencard2003Quote: lilredrooster.
yeah, I've read quite a few of KewlJ's posts at different places
in the last one I saw he stated his top bet was $1K
for me - his story is really hard to believe - that he can get away with this for so long
all of the big casinos have to know who he is - and they're going to let him keep beating up on them endlessly______?
I guess it's possible - but the Managers at these casinos are not stupid - it would seem they would have to be for his stories to all be true
he started posting here in 2012 - I wanna here about this from somebody else
it's now getting close to 50 years of casino experience with counters
.
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what people forget is that the vast majority of card counters who gamble for a living lose heavily and this is why so many casinos dont care if they are counting or not.
me, when i am counting, they dont realize im counting and dont mind me playing, (except for about 10 out of 800 casinos in the USA who told me i can only play other games but not BJ) because i only play 6 or 8 decks, never 1 or 2, never take insurance regardless of the count, and never split tens, and never raise the bet unless i lose the prior hand, regardless of the count. do these things and they wont know u are counting, but then again, there goes most of your edge.
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So you don’t you use indices and you don’t raise your bet based on the count… so you’re not counting lol. You forgot to add in the ever so amazing martingale method that you use.
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doesnt matter if u use the count to decide how much to bet, as long as u know exactly what the count is at all times and use it to decide whether to hit or stand 12 v 3, 16 v 10, etc, u are still counting. but it sure does a good job of making it difficult for the pit to tell u are counting. also i only start doubling the bets if the counts plus til i win a unit and start over. if its negative i just keep flat betting or wonging out if theres 1 other player at my table.
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Great you’re counting with literally zero edge Tony… 🤷♂️
As far as you thinking you’re freerolling the casino where you lost $6k that’s hilarious. Trust me your action will be good there forever, they love you.
It's like getting a 50% loss rebate, that's hugely profitable.
Obviously, it's time-consuming doing 17 trips back, and there is better stuff, but you guys are not looking at it the right way. It's unlikely he is taking full advantage of the true potential or doing it correctly.
