Same Dice
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Why? What difference does it make?
Quote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Superstition about lucky dice.
If the dice are so lucky, why did they bounce off the table?
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Superstition about lucky dice.
If the dice are so lucky, why did they bounce off the table?
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I don't think it's so much "lucky dice" as that replacement dice would turn against the shooter.
Why, yes, I have called "Same Dice!" while shooting - what gave it away?
Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Superstition about lucky dice.
If the dice are so lucky, why did they bounce off the table?
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I don't think it's so much "lucky dice" as that replacement dice would turn against the shooter.
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I'm trying to understand how replacement dice would turn against the shooter.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Superstition about lucky dice.
If the dice are so lucky, why did they bounce off the table?
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I don't think it's so much "lucky dice" as that replacement dice would turn against the shooter.
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I'm trying to understand how replacement dice would turn against the shooter.
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Obviously, the replacement dice resent that fact that they weren't selected by the shooter in the first place, so when they DO get into the game, their first thought is vengeance against the hated shooter... I would have thought that was readily apparent ;-)
Dog Hand
Quote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Because they they think it makes a difference. And then you know who the moron of the group is.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Quote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Because they they think it makes a difference. And then you know who the moron of the group is.
ZCore13
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My biggest gripe is that the die was on the floor. Casinos dont clean dice anymore.
It's bad enough picking dice that the previous guy used after not washing after taking a dump.
Then use a die that landed in the footprint of someone who just walked their dog in the dog park?
Quote: Zcore13Quote: Ace2When shooters bounce the dice off of the table, most will say "same dice" when they are retrieved from the floor.
Why? What difference does it make?
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Because they they think it makes a difference. And then you know who the moron of the group is.
ZCore13
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I was seated at a roulette table when the dealer was asked by another player to pick a number. He picked fifteen. He then made the claim that dealers always guess right.
A bunch of players placed money on fifteen at this but I refused to buy into an obvious claim of superstition. The ball spun and landed on fifteen.
Everyone chided me at the table for being the only person not getting paid. I should have listened to the dealer they scolded.
I still don't buy into the dealer always gets it right superstition (dealers would just tell their friends to come when they are on shift) but it's still difficult when a dealer calls out a number for me to not plunk some cash on it.
Superstitions are difficult to shake.
Let's use the most common superstition: changing the stickman causes a 7 out.
The possible explanation is that changing the stickman alters the shooter's flow, rhythm, concentration, voo doo, mojoe, whatever. It happens enough times and people believe it. I don't believe changing the stickman changes anything. But I can see how people do believe it because it could affect a shooter's flow, rhythm, etc.
Now here's one I do believe in. When the shooter stops to drink a craps or seven out follows. The possible explanation: condensation on the glass is transferred to the shooter's fingers which affects the dice. While I dont think taking a drink affects anything -- unless its fast acting booze -- I can believe that adding moisture to certain faces of the dice can affect how the dice roll.
Quote: Ace2Ive noticed more twelves being rolled during a full moon
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Do you notice more high tides?
Maybe the pips are off balance.
Quote: billryanThe problem is some superstitions are loosely fact-based and others are nonsense.
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Some superstitions cause harm and some are harmless.
Calling for same dice is at worst harmless, at best better for the player as the game slowed down. Thats the point you always make Bill
Quote: unJonQuote: billryanThe problem is some superstitions are loosely fact-based and others are nonsense.
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Some superstitions cause harm and some are harmless.
Calling for same dice is at worst harmless, at best better for the player as the game slowed down. Thats the point you always make Bill
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Yes, but you want as many rolls as possible when you're playing with an advantage by influencing the dice.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Quote: unJonQuote: billryanThe problem is some superstitions are loosely fact-based and others are nonsense.
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Some superstitions cause harm and some are harmless.
Calling for same dice is at worst harmless, at best better for the player as the game slowed down. Thats the point you always make Bill
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Yes, but you want as many rolls as possible when you're playing with an advantage by influencing the dice.
ZCore13
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Actually if you're able to control the dice you dont want someone placing their passline bet, odds and field bets in your landing zone.
I usually don't request same dice, but I have been shooting at tables where the other players insisted on same dice when one of my throws went off the table. In those cases, sure, "Same dice, please!"
I like to yell out_______________𝙗𝙖𝙗𝙮 𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙙𝙨 𝙣𝙚𝙬 𝙨𝙝𝙤𝙚𝙨_______________when I'm throwing the dice
it feels real lucky
☺______♥♦♣♠
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Quote: Ace2Ive noticed more twelves being rolled during a full moon
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So in the southern hemisphere, more 2's during that full moon? BTW I was told you play during the daylight hours.
tuttigym
Quote: TigerWuCan you call "same dice," then, when the dice are handed back to you, change your mind and then request new dice? Would it matter if you touched the dice again or not?
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At any time you can change your dice. Just dont be a pain about it.
I've seen dont players change after every roll that isnt a 7.
Quote: VegasriderPeople getting upset on the word 7 is so stupid. Its just a number that mathematically has the best chance of being rolled. Dice and numbers, it is what it is. The only control you have in.craps is what and how you bet.
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Whaaaat did you say? "The only control you have in craps is what and how you bet."
Be careful. Next you'll say quit when ahead.
ZCore13
Yeah, you're right. It happens about 1 out of 6 times. That's certainly enough for a confirmation bias!Quote: AlanMendelsonLet's use the most common superstition: changing the stickman causes a 7 out.
The possible explanation is that changing the stickman alters the shooter's flow, rhythm, concentration, voo doo, mojoe, whatever. It happens enough times and people believe it.
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Frankly, I say "That one didn't want to play. New die please." And if they have me take TWO new dies, that's fine too.Quote: mipletWhen ever I throw a die off the table, I say "pick one".
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Gramatical note:
Singular: Die (like person)
Group: Dice (like people)
Plural: Dies (like persons)
I've never seen 'Dies' used, and a die plus another die is always 'dice' as far as I knowQuote: DJTeddyBear
Gramatical note:
Singular: Die (like person)
Group: Dice (like people)
Plural: Dies (like persons)
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Quote: odiousgambitI've never seen 'Dies' used, and a die plus another die is always 'dice' as far as I knowQuote: DJTeddyBear
Gramatical note:
Singular: Die (like person)
Group: Dice (like people)
Plural: Dies (like persons)
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One coin die is singular
Three coin dies is plural. I'm not sure why it isn't three-coin dice, but it is not.
You know, you guys could, instead of giving your OPINION of what a word means, you could look into rational objectivity.
The house has a math advantage.
The player has superstitions.
That is THE game.
The house, generally, participates in, as a service to the player because it does not affect their math edge, any superstition that is within the practiced implementation of the game.
But again, why argue over facts when you have a google search.
I have a superstition that when stupid people ask questions I stop gambling because it is no longer fun.
That belief in the supernational forces (like the evil thoughts of defamatory bitches that don't know how to have fun like I do could affect me) has kept me away, in general.
So certainly I am superstitious when people who have the casino math on their side and have to face the facts that they cannot use their intellect to fight my knowledge.
But superstition INDEED!
GO BABY GO!
It can't be wrong to spell it as 'dice' no matter the number, I'd say, however as 'dies' ... there may be some usage of that somewhere, I guess
Quote: odiousgambitSince there are two claims that 'dies' can be the plural of 'die' I'll stifle my impulse to strongly differ ... but a short time spent searching has found no support for that.
It can't be wrong to spell it as 'dice' no matter the number, I'd say, however as 'dies' ... there may be some usage of that somewhere, I guess
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I could be wrong but thought billryan was using die in the sense of a machine tool die. You know, the thing you pour the molten metal into. The plural of that word is indeed dies.
Quote: odiousgambitSince there are two claims that 'dies' can be the plural of 'die' I'll stifle my impulse to strongly differ ... but a short time spent searching has found no support for that.
It can't be wrong to spell it as 'dice' no matter the number, I'd say, however as 'dies' ... there may be some usage of that somewhere, I guess
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If one dice is ok, some chucklehead* is going to talk about two dices.
*: Term used non-pejoratively.
Even the notion that someone could tell the two dice apart is easy to dismiss with RAA. So why would ANYBODY talk about a die unless you were the boxman and could tell the difference between a general (5:1) die from the stick versus a specific cube?
Quote: AhighThere are two possible cases, and both are correct no matter the plurality of dice present because asking for the same dice is a generalization and asking for the same TWO dice, in SOME INSTANCES could be mentioning those specific dice. But, IMO, the EXPRESSION is a general one.
Even the notion that someone could tell the two dice apart is easy to dismiss with RAA. So why would ANYBODY talk about a die unless you were the boxman and could tell the difference between a general (5:1) die from the stick versus a specific cube?
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In California craps, they use two different colored cubes because they use playing cards to determine the actual roll, therefore, one can tell the actual die to replace or whatever. Too bad the "scientists" apparently never thought of that, maybe they did, and I just did not read far enough.
tuttigym
One die (used in craps) might fall on the floor. You throw two dice in your turn.
There is only one correct answer. This is not a discussion about what is an AP.
Quote: AlanMendelsonStop arguing.
One die (used in craps) might fall on the floor. You throw two dice in your turn.
There is only one correct answer. This is not a discussion about what is an AP.
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Now it's one die and two dice, but it was not always so.
Here's a fun article about the change.
Quote: odiousgambitSince there are two claims that 'dies' can be the plural of 'die' I'll stifle my impulse to strongly differ ... but a short time spent searching has found no support for that.
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I'll strongly differ that dies can be the plural of die (as in the cubes thrown in craps).
Quote: teddysJust call them dice everytime, plural or singular. Let's normalize the expiration of the word "die."
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I prefer " formerly living"., although "life challenged" is acceptable.
