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April 18th, 2021 at 11:46:08 AM permalink
My car might be worth 3-4 times the Kelley Blue Book value. I can't tell if it's because it's an antique or just general used car price inflation. I've never sold a car. They've all been towed to the junk yard except one and that was given to a relative who showed up nearby.
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April 18th, 2021 at 12:13:43 PM permalink
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It's such a small inconvenience. Pop the hood, attach your battery pack, start car, remove battery pack, close hood and drive off. You otherwise liked the minivan, this battery issue really isn't any predictor of other problems. The car being old and low priced was, but that's what you were paying for.

I can't imagine wanting to deal with that, especially if you are running late for something. I would really hate doing something like that in the mid-summer here in Vegas. It would seem that no matter how careful you were you would at some point end up getting grease stains on your clothing.


This got me thinking about how paranoid my wife is when it comes to getting stranded on the side of the road. She will rarely drive my truck since the gas gauge doesn't work. She gets annoyed at me when I drive the car and leave it close to empty or when I don't immediately pull over to get gas when the gas light comes on. I'm like Nah, "we are more than fine" To be fair, I have run a couple of car rentals out of gas in some desolate areas and had to hitchhike to the nearest town while she stays with the car.
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April 18th, 2021 at 12:32:54 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I've been doing it for at a few years. Yeah aggravating sometimes



Sometimes? Every time as far as I'm concerned. Like somebody else pointed out, you have to drive a car that has an almost dead battery for an hour for it to be fully recharged and I never go anywhere that's more than four or five miles away. Plus I'm just too old for that crap. That's why you see old guys driving new luxury cars, they don't want to mess with them anymore. They just want comfort and reliability.
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April 18th, 2021 at 12:51:20 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

To be fair, I have run a couple of car rentals out of gas in some desolate areas and had to hitchhike to the nearest town while she stays with the car.



You don't realize it, but this speaks boatloads as to the type of person that you are. I'm not going to go into it because it would be personal insults up the wazoo. If I did that to my wife even once, she would never ride with me again anywhere, and I would not blame her. My vehicle gets down to half empty, I fill it up. I have never run out of gas in a car in my life that I was driving.

That being said, in 1977 I was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge leaving San Francisco with a business partner, in his car, and we ran out of gas in the middle of the bridge. I kid you not. Luckily they have people stationed there for just such an event and he showed up with a 2 gallon can of gas. And cursed my business partner out like I have never heard in my life. He called him every name in the book, as he does anybody who runs out of gas on the Golden Gate Bridge. It was an amazing performance and my business partner was almost in tears while it was going on. I felt no pity for him, cuz I might have knocked his lights out I was so furious. We didn't last much longer, I walked away from the business because I swear I would be in prison today because I would have killed him. Probably the most irresponsible, irritating person I've ever met. A year-and-a-half later I'm reading People Magazine and there he is, in the entrepreneur section with the product that I invented. I didn't even care because I really would have killed him and I really would be in prison. And I'm not a violent person.
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April 18th, 2021 at 1:03:52 PM permalink
My brother liked to tempt the E on the gas gauge. One time when he was still a teen, he drove me from camp which was 6 hours away. The car was so rusty & old (it was my parent's car), and it couldn't go faster than 70 mph floored. We were coming into our hometown, and we ran out of gas about a half mile from the nearest gas station. We had to push it to the the gas station. He couldn't have filled up on the Thruway a few dozen miles back? His answer to most of my pleas for anything is "No."
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April 18th, 2021 at 1:04:15 PM permalink
Look up used on autotrader and you will see siennas past 300k miles. Car 20 years old may have rubber hose and gasket failure. But its 11 years old. Check carfax if hes lying. It could be salvaged or multi owner
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April 18th, 2021 at 1:48:08 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Sometimes? Every time as far as I'm concerned. Like somebody else pointed out, you have to drive a car that has an almost dead battery for an hour for it to be fully recharged and I never go anywhere that's more than four or five miles away. Plus I'm just too old for that crap. That's why you see old guys driving new luxury cars, they don't want to mess with them anymore. They just want comfort and reliability.



That is so me today. I am lucky to be comfortable financially so I will overspend to have a new car and not have to worry about car problems.

I am considering getting a third car and if I do that will be a 10 year old car that I couldn't afford a new one of. Right now we have a sedan and a small SUV but I wouldn't mind getting a sporty luxury car for weekend driving.
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April 18th, 2021 at 2:00:08 PM permalink
I figure cars are at the end at 10 years because more things go wrong more frequently, especially in the rust belt.
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April 18th, 2021 at 2:02:56 PM permalink
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I figure cars are at the end at 10 years because more things go wrong more frequently, especially in the rust belt.



In general I would agree with you. The one I am looking at is a luxury car with 39,000 miles on it so I am guessing it has been taken care of. The owner has all of his paperwork in a binder from every oil change and checkup. I am scared to pull the trigger because when it does breakdown it will be very expensive to fix.
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April 18th, 2021 at 2:10:11 PM permalink
I believe in car repair savings accounts. Just put $100 a month into it, not counting gas. You can run a negative balance on it for awhile because stuff happens. But make a regular donation to it so repairs are part of the budget.
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April 18th, 2021 at 2:11:17 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You don't realize it, but this speaks boatloads as to the type of person that you are. I'm not going to go into it because it would be personal insults up the wazoo. If I did that to my wife even once, she would never ride with me again anywhere, and I would not blame her. My vehicle gets down to half empty, I fill it up. I have never run out of gas in a car in my life that I was driving.

That being said, in 1977 I was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge leaving San Francisco with a business partner, in his car, and we ran out of gas in the middle of the bridge. I kid you not. Luckily they have people stationed there for just such an event and he showed up with a 2 gallon can of gas. And cursed my business partner out like I have never heard in my life. He called him every name in the book, as he does anybody who runs out of gas on the Golden Gate Bridge. It was an amazing performance and my business partner was almost in tears while it was going on. I felt no pity for him, cuz I might have knocked his lights out I was so furious. We didn't last much longer, I walked away from the business because I swear I would be in prison today because I would have killed him. Probably the most irresponsible, irritating person I've ever met. A year-and-a-half later I'm reading People Magazine and there he is, in the entrepreneur section with the product that I invented. I didn't even care because I really would have killed him and I really would be in prison. And I'm not a violent person.

When I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations once we noticed there could be a problem. One time It actually not my fault since I was sleeping at the time we had the last best optetunity to get gas.

Feel free to tell me what kind of person you think I am regarding this no suspension. FYI, my Wife still lives with me...
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April 18th, 2021 at 2:12:34 PM permalink
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I am scared to pull the trigger because when it does breakdown it will be very expensive to fix.



The more expensive the car was when it was new the more expensive it is to get it fixed. Just replacing a windshield wiper is expensive. Just get a five-year-old Lincoln Town Car with low mileage. Drive it 3 or 4 years and sell it and get another one. Will cost you practically nothing in the long run if you don't put a ton of miles on it.
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April 18th, 2021 at 2:21:20 PM permalink
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The more expensive the car was when it was new the more expensive it is to get it fixed.



That is what I am worried about. The one I am looking at was $116,000 in 2011.
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April 18th, 2021 at 3:23:58 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

The more expensive the car was when it was new the more expensive it is to get it fixed. Just replacing a windshield wiper is expensive. Just get a five-year-old Lincoln Town Car with low mileage. Drive it 3 or 4 years and sell it and get another one. Will cost you practically nothing in the long run if you don't put a ton of miles on it.



Why used Toyota’s and Honda’s with 100k+ cost as much or more than used BMW and Mercedes with 100k+. An econo buyer knows those things will go 300+ easy. if they’re cared for with routine maintenance. I’ve got 285 on mine and I sort of wish it would just start having some sort of problems so I can move on..
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April 18th, 2021 at 3:27:54 PM permalink
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. I’ve got 285 on mine and I sort of wish it would just start having some sort of problems so I can move on..



I've got 18,500 on my Chevy and getting rid of it before it implodes.
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April 18th, 2021 at 3:42:50 PM permalink
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That is what I am worried about. The one I am looking at was $116,000 in 2011.



I would never own a car like that cuz I would be afraid to park it anywhere outdoors while I'm inside a store. I would get a three year old loaded Lincoln Town Car, drive it for 3 years trade it in on another one. It's a luxury car and nobody pays any attention to it.

Like this 2018. Fully loaded it was $85K.

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April 18th, 2021 at 4:31:11 PM permalink
Any foreign high end used cars out of warranty, Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Audi etc... will send you to
the poor house for repairs, parts and labor are stupidly high.

I have Professional Mechs. in my family & I'm pretty handy myself so I drive high mileage used stuff I know
can be repaired on the cheap and that includes motors & trans.

I'm building A 99 Jeep Cherokee right now, will be my new daily driver mostly new everything
except paint paints still good enough and will save a lot of dough here.

These rigs are known to be one of the best if not the best off road capable rig made.
Youtube is full of Videos its amazing what they can do even in a stock configuration
which is what mine will be.
Look up stock XJ off road on the Tube if you wish its amazing.
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April 18th, 2021 at 4:38:31 PM permalink
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I'm building A 99 Jeep Cherokee right now,



Good thing you work on them because Jeep now has one of the worst reliability records out there. Especially since Fiat bought Chrysler. Dodge stopped making their Grand Caravan last year because they're pieces of crap now. Super expensive and they break down constantly. Chrysler has gotten so bad with all their vehicles they are a couple of billion dollars in debt and none of the other major car companies are in debt at all. Fiat-Chrysler is begging to merge with somebody, but nobody wants them. Some experts think in two years Chrysler will be totally gone, their cars have gotten that bad.
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April 18th, 2021 at 4:58:32 PM permalink
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Good thing you work on them because Jeep now has one of the worst reliability records out there. Especially since Fiat bought Chrysler. Dodge stopped making their Grand Caravan last year because they're pieces of crap now. Super expensive and they break down constantly. Chrysler has gotten so bad with all their vehicles they are a couple of billion dollars in debt and none of the other major car companies are in debt at all. Fiat-Chrysler is begging to merge with somebody, but nobody wants them. Some experts think in two years Chrysler will be totally gone, their cars have gotten that bad.



For sure, that's why I went back to 99 and even then they have some junky wiring and
other issues but all that will be taken care of. I paid 1500 put 4500 in parts its almost done
all the issues are taken care of so I'm basically driving a new car for 6000 bucks even
the carpets new.
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April 18th, 2021 at 5:03:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob


That being said, in 1977 I was riding across the Golden Gate Bridge leaving San Francisco with a business partner, in his car, and we ran out of gas in the middle of the bridge. I kid you not. Luckily they have people stationed there for just such an event and he showed up with a 2 gallon can of gas. And cursed my business partner out like I have never heard in my life. He called him every name in the book, as he does anybody who runs out of gas on the Golden Gate Bridge. It was an amazing performance and my business partner was almost in tears while it was going on. I felt no pity for him, cuz I might have knocked his lights out I was so furious. We didn't last much longer, I walked away from the business because I swear I would be in prison today because I would have killed him. Probably the most irresponsible, irritating person I've ever met. A year-and-a-half later I'm reading People Magazine and there he is, in the entrepreneur section with the product that I invented. I didn't even care because I really would have killed him and I really would be in prison. And I'm not a violent person.



Great story.😄 I dont like being on that bridge even with a full tank.😲
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April 18th, 2021 at 5:05:46 PM permalink
Anybody else familiar with this guy, Scotty Kilmer. He has 2,700 YouTube videos on vehicles. He was a mechanic for 40 years and he's been recording videos since 2007. He's my go-to guy, he knows what he's talking about. He makes $2 mil a year off his YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/c/ScottyKilmermechanic/playlists
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April 18th, 2021 at 5:08:17 PM permalink
Scotty has lots of topics!
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Understanding the wave of catalytic converter thefts - Roadshow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1OoxDe-IDg

Smelting Platinum/Palladium Catalytic Converters For PGMs..... Success??? - mbmmllc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53Ru0whEbCA
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April 18th, 2021 at 5:11:32 PM permalink
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When I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations once we noticed there could be a problem. One time It actually not my fault since I was sleeping at the time we had the last best optetunity to get gas.

Feel free to tell me what kind of person you think I am regarding this no suspension. FYI, my Wife still lives with me...

Oh snap. Is your refrigerator running?
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April 18th, 2021 at 5:39:29 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

When I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations once we noticed there could be a problem. One time It actually not my fault since I was sleeping at the time we had the last best optetunity to get gas.

Feel free to tell me what kind of person you think I am regarding this no suspension. FYI, my Wife still lives with me...



Is this offer open to anyone? Ahhh... never mind I'm just gonna end up trolling myself into a suspension
carry on.
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April 18th, 2021 at 8:10:35 PM permalink
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When I have ran out of gas when traveling long distance it wasn't due to not filling it or trying to be daring it was being in a situation where there weren't any gas stations



People who run out of gas or almost run out of gas as a regular thing always have a buttload of reasons for it. When my business partner ran out on the Golden Gate Bridge he grabbed the steering wheel started whining over and over I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die. Not giving one crap that he put my life in just as much danger as he put his. That's why the rescue guy was so angry, because he put all of us In harms way. The Golden Gate often has visibility issues and people have been killed on it who ran out of gas. The rescue guy charged him $10 for the two gallons and my partner whined all the way home about it. The guy saved us and my partner was worried about his life, got saved, and then complained about how much it cost. What kind of a person does this sound like to you.
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April 18th, 2021 at 8:31:17 PM permalink
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People who run out of gas or almost run out of gas as a regular thing always have a buttload of reasons for it. When my business partner ran out on the Golden Gate Bridge he grabbed the steering wheel started whining over and over I'm going to die, I'm going to die, I'm going to die. Not giving one crap that he put my life in just as much danger as he put his. That's why the rescue guy was so angry, because he put all of us In harms way. The Golden Gate often has visibility issues and people have been killed on it who ran out of gas. The rescue guy charged him $10 for the two gallons and my partner whined all the way home about it. The guy saved us and my partner was worried about his life, got saved, and then complained about how much it cost. What kind of a person does this sound like to you.



The Road sign said, Vehicles with Two "Axles" only.. You certainly had one in yours.😉
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April 18th, 2021 at 8:44:25 PM permalink
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Oh snap. Is your refrigerator running?

Not sure but, my dishwasher seems to be working well.

If my worst sin regarding my Wife is running us out of gas a few times, I'm probably doing ok. She hasn't lorded it over me.

Ocassianlly she still brings up the fact that after we first started dating that I got a girl's Phone number. And I gave some other girl her drink that I ordered for her.

She was the one that dared me saying I couldn't get a particular girl's number. Sure, it may have been a test to see if I would, or perhaps she wanted to know if that chick was into me, but she knew better than to dare me.

In the other situation, a girl I knew ordered the same thing as I was getting for my wife(not my wife at the time, I don't even think we were exclusive at the time), as the bartender sat mine down, I simply told the other girl to take that one and I would reorder since they were free to me. She just happened to walk up as this was all going down. She wasn't too happy about it. 🤷‍♂️
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April 18th, 2021 at 9:58:39 PM permalink
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If my worst sin regarding my Wife is running us out of gas a few times, I'm probably doing ok.



No, you really are not doing okay because somebody actually has to explain this to you. You've run out of gas more than once and had to leave your wife in the car, unprotected, while you hitchhiked somewhere to get more gas. You have no idea what kind of area you're going to be in when you run out of gas. You could say yeah, it was the interstate, it was safe. Really? When I had to go to Chicago on a run when I had the cab company the dispatcher would always remind me to make sure I had lots of gas because running out of gas on the freeway in many places in Chicago was a death sentence. When you get back to it your car is going to be stripped of everything and if your wife was in it what do you think would have happened to her. When somebody acts like that, has that kind of behavior, what's it called. I don't want to say it because we have hair trigger mods here now and I have no idea what's considered a personal insult these days.
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April 18th, 2021 at 10:19:15 PM permalink
*Negligent homicide*
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April 18th, 2021 at 10:33:02 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Not sure but, my dishwasher seems to be working well.

If my worst sin regarding my Wife is running us out of gas a few times, I'm probably doing ok. She hasn't lorded it over me.

Ocassianlly she still brings up the fact that after we first started dating that I got a girl's Phone number. And I gave some other girl her drink that I ordered for her.

She was the one that dared me saying I couldn't get a particular girl's number. Sure, it may have been a test to see if I would, or perhaps she wanted to know if that chick was into me, but she knew better than to dare me.

In the other situation, a girl I knew ordered the same thing as I was getting for my wife(not my wife at the time, I don't even think we were exclusive at the time), as the bartender sat mine down, I simply told the other girl to take that one and I would reorder since they were free to me. She just happened to walk up as this was all going down. She wasn't too happy about it. 🤷‍♂️



Well you bettter go catch it. Your wife is in there.
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April 19th, 2021 at 3:01:44 AM permalink
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No, you really are not doing okay because somebody actually has to explain this to you. You've run out of gas more than once and had to leave your wife in the car, unprotected, while you hitchhiked somewhere to get more gas. You have no idea what kind of area you're going to be in when you run out of gas. You could say yeah, it was the interstate, it was safe. Really? When I had to go to Chicago on a run when I had the cab company the dispatcher would always remind me to make sure I had lots of gas because running out of gas on the freeway in many places in Chicago was a death sentence. When you get back to it your car is going to be stripped of everything and if your wife was in it what do you think would have happened to her. When somebody acts like that, has that kind of behavior, what's it called. I don't want to say it because we have hair trigger mods here now and I have no idea what's considered a personal insult these days.

You don't have to explain anything to me, I didn't say it was a good thing, Things happen and it's what happened, and I can't change that. How do you know she was unprotected or what the circumstances were, were you there? You are just speculating, for all you know she may have had a fully loaded handgun and she is a better shot than 90% of the population, or perhaps I put a sign up saying come kidnap me. You are making mountains out of molehills. Sorry to disappoint you but we were nowhere near a crime-ridden area. It doesn't matter what YOU think, it matters what she thinks. Again, if that's one of the worst things I have done in over 20 years, I'm doing well. It might be why my wife still lives with me, unlike yours.
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April 19th, 2021 at 8:31:45 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

No, you really are not doing okay because somebody actually has to explain this to you. You've run out of gas more than once and had to leave your wife in the car, unprotected, while you hitchhiked somewhere to get more gas. You have no idea what kind of area you're going to be in when you run out of gas. You could say yeah, it was the interstate, it was safe. Really? When I had to go to Chicago on a run when I had the cab company the dispatcher would always remind me to make sure I had lots of gas because running out of gas on the freeway in many places in Chicago was a death sentence. When you get back to it your car is going to be stripped of everything and if your wife was in it what do you think would have happened to her. When somebody acts like that, has that kind of behavior, what's it called. I don't want to say it because we have hair trigger mods here now and I have no idea what's considered a personal insult these days.



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April 19th, 2021 at 10:16:19 AM permalink
I hear people will be buying real clunkers with no car insurance for riot patrol in Florida right away. Vehicular homicide of pedestrians has just been decriminalized by the Governor. It's a stand your ground state so I suppose people in a Disney parking lot can shoot back at the drivers.
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April 19th, 2021 at 3:56:08 PM permalink
If a vehicle has an orange title that means it's a salvage title which means the vehicle was in a bad accident and was written off by the insurance company because it cost more to fix it than it was worth. You can get these fixed and have it inspected by the state and they will issue you a repair salvage title. All this means is a State inspector made sure all the parts were installed and the vehicle looks safe. He does not drive it, he has no idea if it pulls to left or right or if the frame is bent, so his inspection is almost meaningless. I was talking to a guy on the phone about a 2010 Toyota minivan and he said by the way, it has a repair salvage title. I started asking him about the accident it was in and he got furious with me, said I was stupid. LOL He was from a foreign country. I guess in his country you're stupid if you ask questions about the vehicle you might buy. I have since read some articles that say run away from these vehicles as fast as you can because they always have things wrong with them that are hidden. And good luck getting insurance, most insurance companies won't touch a vehicle that another insurance company has written off.
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April 19th, 2021 at 4:18:31 PM permalink
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If a vehicle has an orange title that means it's a salvage title which means the vehicle was in a bad accident and was written off by the insurance company because it cost more to fix it than it was worth. You can get these fixed and have it inspected by the state and they will issue you a repair salvage title. All this means is a State inspector made sure all the parts were installed and the vehicle looks safe. He does not drive it, he has no idea if it pulls to left or right or if the frame is bent, so his inspection is almost meaningless. I was talking to a guy on the phone about a 2010 Toyota minivan and he said by the way, it has a repair salvage title. I started asking him about the accident it was in and he got furious with me, said I was stupid. LOL He was from a foreign country. I guess in his country you're stupid if you ask questions about the vehicle you might buy. I have since read some articles that run away from these vehicles as fast as you can because they always have things wrong with them that are hidden. And good luck getting insurance, most insurance companies won't touch a vehicle that another insurance company has written off.

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April 19th, 2021 at 4:21:39 PM permalink
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I have since read some articles that run away from these vehicles as fast as you can because they always have things wrong with them that are hidden. And good luck getting insurance, most insurance companies won't touch a vehicle that another insurance company has written off.



I had one car that had a salvage title and the insurance company never asked about it.
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April 19th, 2021 at 4:31:33 PM permalink
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I had one car that had a salvage title and the insurance company never asked about it.



It's not 1994 anymore..
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April 19th, 2021 at 4:40:28 PM permalink
My current car is a salvage. Got it with 70k, at 285k. Never once has insurance been an issue or one question. They even repaired it again when I was involved in an accident with 7k in damage that I was hoping they’d total it. You just make stuff up constantly eb. I don’t know that I’d do it again because of the resale issue but there’s been zero issue with owning it.
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April 19th, 2021 at 5:26:38 PM permalink
The transmission in my VW Jetta Hybrid died last month.

Because it was a hybrid, the cost to repair and replace it was astronomical, nearly as much as the car was worth.

I ended up selling it to peddle.com. They offered me more $$$ than any of the other “we buy junk cars!” sites. It almost seemed too good to be true. But nope, it was legit. They were here to pick it up the day after I accepted the offer and (most importantly) their check cleared. Couldn’t recommend them any higher if you ever have a car you need to get rid of.
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April 19th, 2021 at 5:36:55 PM permalink
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You just make stuff up constantly eb.



I never make anything up. Lots more where this came from:

6 Reasons To Avoid Buying A Salvage Car

https://www.launchcu.com/blog/should-buy-salvage-car/

Hard To Insure
Very few auto insurance companies will write collision and comprehensive coverage for salvage-title vehicles because it is tough for an insurance company to place a value on the vehicle. You may find some insurance companies who are willing to write policies for salvage vehicles; however, this coverage will be limited.
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April 19th, 2021 at 5:47:47 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

The transmission in my VW Jetta Hybrid died last month.

Because it was a hybrid, the cost to repair and replace it was astronomical, nearly as much as the car was worth.

I ended up selling it to peddle.com. They offered me more $$$ than any of the other “we buy junk cars!” sites. It almost seemed too good to be true. But nope, it was legit. They were here to pick it up the day after I accepted the offer and (most importantly) their check cleared. Couldn’t recommend them any higher if you ever have a car you need to get rid of.



I have an offer from Carvana right now that I am accepting. I expect it will take a week before they pick it up.

I just looked mine up on Peddle and it came up $10,000 less than Carvana.
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April 20th, 2021 at 9:20:15 AM permalink
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Sunroofs and moon roofs are terrible after
a hundred thousand miles. The seals dry out
and crack. and they all leak eventually.

I had a 1992 Camry with about 230k miles that I had until about 2013. The sunroof still worked and never leaked. Just my experience.
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April 20th, 2021 at 9:36:13 AM permalink
Sunroof seals can fail over time; this is a known issue caused by the passage of time and easy to remedy by resealing the sunroof.

Also the drains for the sunroof often get plugged up, causing a leak: the drains can be easily cleaned out.

It's posts like EB's that help to induce people to get rid of their used car and buy a new one instead of maintaining / fixing their used car.
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April 20th, 2021 at 9:36:32 AM permalink
I had a few cars- Audi 4000S, VW Rabbit where the sunroofs didn't open, but they were bone dry. I'm afraid to open my BMWs sunroof as it opens easily but is very reluctant to close. I'd hate for it to get stuck open.
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April 20th, 2021 at 10:11:52 AM permalink
Had no idea how to open the sunroof on my car. Found the button and tried it for the first time in six years due to this thread. Seems like a rather pointless contraption, unless for some reason you wanted to roll your car and sever something. Never had one leak...it’s not 1994 anymore...
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April 20th, 2021 at 10:28:57 AM permalink
I sold cars for several years, mostly new, so take my opinion as just that, mine. I am personally generally a value person. I wouldn’t say I’m cheap I just don’t really require a lot. If you’re looking for the best value in a car I think that the best you can do is one of 2 things. First buy a new car and drive it until it dies. The second is to buy a used one around say 75k-125k miles that is a few years old. In my opinion the worst value is buying a 1-3 year old car with 20-30k miles on it. These often sell for almost what you could buy a new one for. In fact we would joke in new cars that we should just put a new car down at the used car lot and it would sell quicker. People say stupid stuff like I buy a one year old used car to avoid the new car depreciation. You don’t think a one year old used car depreciates as soon as your drive it off the lot? A car doesn’t depreciate immediately, it’s the difference between a trade value and a retail price. You buy a $25k used one year old car and drive off the lot and return to sell it back, they’re going to give you $21k for it. Also because people rarely trade their car in after one year, if you see a 1-2 year old car with exactly 32k miles 100% chance it was a rental. Nothing inherently wrong with a rental. The thing I didn’t like was rentals were often not ordered the way a new dealership would order them. They often would only order a certain trim level or certain colors or packages.

Buying a new car is not a bad deal. If you’re looking for the best deal, this is the way to go. You get a new car and all that comes with it, better selection and you don’t have to worry cause the dealer isn’t making and money on it. The new car market is so competitive that even someone who hasn’t done their homework is going to get a good deal.
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April 20th, 2021 at 11:51:32 AM permalink
I think best deal advice is same for new or used. Do you really get the best deal on an auction site from a professional seller who is selling constantly, or the occasional seller who is just interested in getting something sold and out of the house or garage?

There’s definite advantages to buying from professional sellers, like convenience or efficiency, but I’m not sure if best deal is usually one of them.

Discuss.
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April 20th, 2021 at 11:58:45 AM permalink
Btw, I’ve always bought my cars based on other priorities besides best deal as the top reason. So, there’s that.
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April 20th, 2021 at 12:09:57 PM permalink
Looking at a 2008 Toyota Avalon this was sitting on a used car lot since last summer. Has 205 thousand miles on it. This is a good vehicle, top of the line for Toyota. It's basically the same as a Lexus, uses a lot of the same parts. The Blue Book on this car is about $6,000. The car lot had it marked at $6,000 and has marked it down 6 times since then. It's now $3,500. My problem is I cannot figure out why nobody has bought this car. The salesman I talked to has no idea why it's still there. I called a Toyota dealership, they said it doesn't cost any more to fix an Avalon then it does any other Toyota. $3,500 is practically giving it away, why are people afraid of this car.
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April 20th, 2021 at 12:41:42 PM permalink
I thought you needed a minivan?
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