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EvenBob
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May 3rd, 2021 at 12:12:15 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I don't believe that as my car has not yet appeared on their website.



And you will not see it because it won't be listed. They had a buyer for your car, a specific person looking for what you had. Why would they list it if it's already installed. Every dealer everywhere has a clientele list of people looking for specific cars. When they come in he calls them before he puts it on the lot for sale.
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May 3rd, 2021 at 2:41:43 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I don't believe that as my car has not yet appeared on their website. I expect it will later this week. I have been watching to see what they are asking for it. I am guessing a $2000 to $2500 premium over what they offered me.


It does take some time to get the paperwork in order (title transfer etc.). But if it does show up online I would bet it will be priced very high, like the maximum amount a bank would be willing to loan on the vehicle via a retail sale. EB could be right about a buyer already lined up to buy it or they could just be quick flipping it in an auction (unlikely).
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May 3rd, 2021 at 7:17:09 PM permalink
My car is now listed on Carvana for $20,590. They paid me $19,308 so a $1,282 mark up.

I would imagine their costs have to be close to $500 so really not a big profit.
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May 3rd, 2021 at 7:20:52 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

My car is now listed on Carvana for $20,590. They paid me $19,308 so a $1,282 mark up.

I would imagine their costs have to be close to $500 so really not a big profit.



That’s impossible. EvenBob said they already had a buyer.
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May 3rd, 2021 at 8:01:17 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

My car is now listed on Carvana for $20,590. They paid me $19,308 so a $1,282 mark up.

I would imagine their costs have to be close to $500 so really not a big profit.


Oops. Well I was wrong about that pricing.

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May 3rd, 2021 at 8:43:07 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

That’s impossible. EvenBob said they already had a buyer.



He doesn't know it's his car. It looks like his car, so it must be his car
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May 3rd, 2021 at 9:11:43 PM permalink
They list the vins on Carvana
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May 3rd, 2021 at 9:48:22 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

They list the vins on Carvana



Like he knows the VIN. LOL
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May 4th, 2021 at 4:45:08 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Like he knows the VIN. LOL


You can just look at your old insurance policy for the Vin.
Not too difficult
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May 4th, 2021 at 6:44:35 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

He doesn't know it's his car. It looks like his car, so it must be his car



Once again, you are wrong. I am pretty sure there is not another car with the same VIN and same mileage as mine.
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May 4th, 2021 at 6:45:43 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Like he knows the VIN. LOL



Of course I know the VIN as it is on all of the paperwork they gave me.
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May 4th, 2021 at 8:10:37 AM permalink
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May 4th, 2021 at 8:56:50 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Once again, you are wrong. I am pretty sure there is not another car with the same VIN and same mileage as mine.



This just gets funnier and funnier. LOL
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May 4th, 2021 at 9:34:01 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This just gets funnier and funnier. LOL




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May 4th, 2021 at 10:53:30 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Of course I know the VIN as it is on all of the paperwork they gave me.


It just looks like the same VIN and car. HEHEHHEHE
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May 4th, 2021 at 1:11:14 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Just remember they are laughing with you, not at you.



Don't be sure about that. LOL
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May 4th, 2021 at 11:41:02 PM permalink
I decided to not go through with my purchase at Carvana. I don't think internet valuations show what people are saying about price and I can find a better deal in terms of cost and interest rate. I really like leather seats, etc., not this car. Let them sell it to someone who will be repoed. My last car was such a steal, I would have to pay $20,000 more to get the same driving experience. :(
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May 5th, 2021 at 6:51:50 AM permalink
Wife is picking up her new Dodge Charger today. I’m not sure how she chose that car, but while kissing me said it was cheaper than her last Mercedes so I should be happy! Likely I inherit the Benz and my entomologist son inherits my Sonata (2014) to replace his Accord (2007). The Accord will be sold for likely $$$. Yes, no fourth $ sign.

There were no 2021 Chargers in Buffalo at any of the dealers. Zero. We had to put a deposit down on one ‘on the boat’ to lock it in. Kind of hard to negotiate a good price that way.... So just $2k less than MSRP, which under normal circumstances is probably a terrible deal. Happy wife, happy life.....

This chip shortage is really affecting new car availability....
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May 5th, 2021 at 7:15:05 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

I decided to not go through with my purchase at Carvana. I don't think internet valuations show what people are saying about price and I can find a better deal in terms of cost and interest rate. I really like leather seats, etc., not this car. Let them sell it to someone who will be repoed. My last car was such a steal, I would have to pay $20,000 more to get the same driving experience. :(


I had 2 friends sell their car with Carvana recently and both had a great experience. They said they got about $5k more than what dealerships were offering. And they come to pick it up.
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May 5th, 2021 at 7:35:38 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Wife is picking up her new Dodge Charger today. I’m not sure how she chose that .



I don’t suppose it’s like the Dodge Charger I once drove to a rock concert when I was about 17. Would smoke the tires all the way through 1st and 2nd and chirp in the 3rd.
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May 5th, 2021 at 7:42:17 AM permalink
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I had 2 friends sell their car with Carvana recently and both had a great experience. They said they got about $5k more than what dealerships were offering. And they come to pick it up.

My car is almost legally dead. It was fine but not so much, obviously not a looker. They said to describe it and in the comments I wrote, "looks like shit". I have a lot of memories in the car and don't want to let it go.
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May 5th, 2021 at 9:57:51 AM permalink
We picked up our new CX-5 Carbon Edition on Friday, with the optional black interior.

I test drove a demo car but not this one,as I told myself I need to read the instruction manual cover to cover first; oh boy, careful what you ask for.

I found out the manual is about an inch thick, many hundreds of pages.

Half way through.

This new car is light years more advanced / complicated than my daily driver, my '82 Volvo 244 Turbo.

Just more stuff to go wrong?

I always maintain my own vehicles, but when I asked about servicing the automatic transmission I was told that when the time comes for servicing I need to bring it to a dealer as the transmission does not have a fill plug, only a drain plug.
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:23:38 AM permalink
I have a 2016 CX-5, the mid line edition, and except for oil changes all I've done is buy a new battery. I was a little surprised the battery went but it was only a 36 month type. I'm sure there are all sorts of bells and whistles I've ner used but I'm happy with it. I liked my Six better but needed more carrying room so I traded it in.
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:28:41 AM permalink
Thanks for the input.

I'm a "car guy," a "gearhead" and I did a lot of research before opting to buy this particular model car: hopefully it will meet my expectations and warrant the praise which reviewers and journalists shower upon it.
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:37:18 AM permalink
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Doesn't Oregon have the highest suicide rate in the country? I want to kill myself just thinking about going back there.

I thought that was Washington State, specifically Seattle, but perhaps that's just something I heard when I was younger and believed it to be so. Whatever the case, I love the Pacific Northwest, including all the rain that comes with it. The dessert sucks donkey balls. I'm sure I would love places like Vermont, even though I haven't been there( it's on my to-do list while doing some fishing).
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:43:09 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I thought that was Washington State, specifically Seattle, but perhaps that's just something I heard when I was younger and believed it to be so. Whatever the case, I love the Pacific Northwest, including all the rain that comes with it. The dessert sucks donkey balls. I'm sure I would love places like Vermont, even though I haven't been there( it's on my to-do list while doing some fishing).


The fall is probably the best time to visit Vermont and NH but there will be a lot of leaf peepers at that time.
Unless you like to ski then obviously come in the winter.lol
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:48:04 AM permalink
Our family has long had a summer cabin on a lake in NH, in fact my family all wound up moving to NH from NJ: all except me.

I wanted to head west, and I much prefer Portland, Oregon to New England.

Lots of reasons, but here's a big one:

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May 5th, 2021 at 12:02:54 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



I wanted to head west, and I much prefer Portland, Oregon to New England.



Who wouldn't. This is Portland on a good day. I know a guy who has lived in Portland his entire life and is terrified to go downtown in his own city. Hasn't been down there in years. Swell place to live.

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May 5th, 2021 at 12:19:05 PM permalink
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Would smoke the tires all the way through 1st and 2nd and chirp in the 3rd.

It's an addiction. from the age of 15(yes, I had a car at that age) to 18, It was rare that I wasn't dropping the clutch or power breaking and driving like a nutjob, looking back, I ran really good on not dying.


I certainly envy the fact that you had a Dodge Charger at the age of 17, I would be really envious if it was a Challenger.

I had a number of cars up until I was 19. The most powerful car I had was a Black 1963 Buick Riviera in really good shape. One might think that's a cool car, and it is, but when I was a teenager that car wasn't exactly a chick magnet... It had White walls and hubs for God's sake. The girl's fathers were more interested in the car than their daughters were. To a teenage girl, I'm sure, it was just a big boat. I didn't seek that car out, it was just a good situational opportunity.
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:27:21 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



Just more stuff to go wrong?



One of the best cars I had in the last 20 years was a 97 Saturn with a stick shift. It had no whistles and bells whatsoever. Crank windows, mechanical seat adjustment. It did nothing except drive and I drove the wheels off of it. A friend of mine had exactly the same car only a different model and he got over 400,000 miles out of it. Never broke down, what killed it was the subframe eventually rusted so badly the answer was about to fall out. It was 20 years old by then.

Go and read the reviews of modern cars and they're all about the whistles and bells start failing. The heated driver seat. The heated external mirrors. The DVD entertainment center. The electric sliding doors, the electric tailgate. The rear air and heating. The electric windows. The electric sunroof. The 10 position electric seats. The more of that crap you have in a vehicle the more it's going to cost you. No thanks
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:32:12 PM permalink
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The fall is probably the best time to visit Vermont and NH but there will be a lot of leaf peepers at that time.
Unless you like to ski then obviously come in the winter.lol

I have only been skiing 2 times in my life (not too long ago, as a matter of fact) I do enjoy it, but I can only handle one day at a time of it since I do hit the ground hard a number of times. Heck, the preparation alone is quite an ordeal.

leaf peeper, I never heard that term before, I guess that would be me since that's exactly what makes it look so appealing to me.
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:36:52 PM permalink
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Who wouldn't. This is Portland on a good day. I know a guy who has lived in Portland his entire life and is terrified to go downtown in his own city. Hasn't been down there in years. Swell place to live.

I will never understand why they allow this. I was in and around Portland not too long ago. I didn't feel unsafe, but it was a sad sight to see that all over the place.
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May 5th, 2021 at 1:41:40 PM permalink
They allow it because they're pansies.

Sure wasn't like this when I moved out here: now I avoid the downtown Portland core, where antifa and BLM ran wild; not that I'm afraid: no, I'm disgusted!

Not all of downtown is like the photo EB posted, just certain parts: most of Portland is still bum-free.

But these bums have been haunting highway offramps for many years, ain't notin' new.

Were I in charge I'd stuff 'em in the torpedo tubes and fire a spread of six into the Willamette River.

*pic of a retired U.S.Navy submarine moored adjacent to downtown's Oregon Museum of Science and Industry*

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May 30th, 2021 at 8:06:02 PM permalink
I must have had ten used car dealers tell me I better buy their car today because this summer prices are going through the roof. I thought it was just a sales ploy but it turns out they were correct. Used car prices are insane right now. The waiting list for new cars and trucks and vans is months-long because of a severe microchip shortage because manufacturing was shut down last year for so long.

I'm seeing stories of people who bought a used 2019 Toyota Sienna in 2020 for $21,000 and being offered by Carvana $25,000 so Carvana can turn around and sell it for $30,000. Some dealerships are offering used 2020 Sienna's for more then a new 2021 Sienna costs. And getting it. People do not want to wait till September to get a new one. It's this way all over the car industry, especially in places like California. Nobody has ever seen used car prices this high because people have the money but there is a severe shortage.
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May 30th, 2021 at 9:35:12 PM permalink
If we have a civil war this summer, the chip shortage will be just a memory, and so will be gas pumps.
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May 31st, 2021 at 8:20:46 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I must have had ten used car dealers tell me I better buy their car today because this summer prices are going through the roof. I thought it was just a sales ploy but it turns out they were correct. Used car prices are insane right now. The waiting list for new cars and trucks and vans is months-long because of a severe microchip shortage because manufacturing was shut down last year for so long.

I'm seeing stories of people who bought a used 2019 Toyota Sienna in 2020 for $21,000 and being offered by Carvana $25,000 so Carvana can turn around and sell it for $30,000. Some dealerships are offering used 2020 Sienna's for more then a new 2021 Sienna costs. And getting it. People do not want to wait till September to get a new one. It's this way all over the car industry, especially in places like California. Nobody has ever seen used car prices this high because people have the money but there is a severe shortage.



I was shocked how much Carvana offered for my 3 year old Chevrolet Equinox.
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July 1st, 2021 at 10:01:02 PM permalink
I sure am glad I found my Toyota Sienna in April. So many of the car dealers I talked to said you better buy this car because this summer used cars and new cars are going to be impossible to find. I thought it was a sales gimmick. Paco made a post on the other forum that it has come true, the computer chip shortage has made it almost impossible to get a new car so it has nobody trading in their old cars and the used car market has very few vehicles now. If you have a used 2020 Toyota Sienna you can get more for it now than the 2021's are selling for. Somebody posted they were in a Ford dealership the other day and there were exactly four new Ford trucks on the lot. The poor car salesman have to be starving. All a direct result of the pandemic.
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July 2nd, 2021 at 7:15:42 AM permalink
I work as a F&I manager at a Ford dealership in WV. We have 4 new vehicles on the lot, normally would have 120-150.

We do however have over 300 used currently and the last 4 months I have made more money than any months previously.

In fact, these past 4 months my pay is equal to my YTD last year!
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July 2nd, 2021 at 7:21:32 AM permalink
Such is life

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Then you can jump.
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July 7th, 2021 at 8:50:50 AM permalink
The last car I bought was in 2019. It was a 2019 Kia Sorrento. A new one off the dealer's lot was around $30k. The one I bought had been a rental from a well known rental car agency. I paid $17,700+ almost half price. It had 37K+ miles on it and still the factory new car warranty to 60k miles. So far trouble free and a great buy. One looking to buy something new and well maintained might wish to look into a used, current year rental auto. Just sayin.

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July 7th, 2021 at 8:58:09 AM permalink
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The last car I bought was in 2019. It was a 2019 Kia Sorrento. A new one off the dealer's lot was around $30k. The one I bought had been a rental from a well known rental car agency. I paid $17,700+ almost half price. It had 37K+ miles on it and still the factory new car warranty to 60k miles. So far trouble free and a great buy. One looking to buy something new and well maintained might wish to look into a used, current year rental auto. Just sayin.

tuttigym



While that is generally true, at this time rental car agencies are not selling their fleets. In fact ,they are desperately looking at used cars to expand their fleet. Just another way Covid has disrupted our economy.
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July 7th, 2021 at 12:17:09 PM permalink
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While that is generally true, at this time rental car agencies are not selling their fleets. In fact ,they are desperately looking at used cars to expand their fleet. Just another way Covid has disrupted our economy.


Very true, but it won't always be that way. "Normalcy" is not too far away, so those car agencies will be roaring very soon; I am sure.

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July 7th, 2021 at 1:36:59 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

Very true, but it won't always be that way. "Normalcy" is not too far away, so those car agencies will be roaring very soon; I am sure.

tuttigym



Well, they sure WANT things to be normal, but the surging virus / new variants may throw a monkey wrench in the works.

I suspect they'll stay open, regardless, and if it gets bad the gov't line will be "We made the vaccine available, if you choose not to take it that's just tough on you if you get covid."

That will fly unless / until the ICU's get overwhelmed, again.
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