Vegasrider
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TDVegas
June 27th, 2020 at 6:38:22 PM permalink
So the new governors directive states that everyone must wear a mask when out in public or in a business. So why are they still allowing people to smoke inside casinos. Im playing Bingo and I get scolded for not wearing a mask but the people smoking are allowed to have their mask off and smoke?

Something wrong here
AlanMendelson
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ChumpChange
June 28th, 2020 at 2:35:45 AM permalink
You're right.

At Red Rock casino smoking is no longer allowed at table games. But that's a casino decision.

Supposedly, smokers should replace their masks between drags.

The governor does not have the independent power to stop smoking in casinos, nor does the Nevada Gaming Commission. Smoking is regulated by the legislature outside the realm of the Gaming Commission.
billryan
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June 28th, 2020 at 8:13:46 AM permalink
Do you really want your governor to have the power to declare such things? Is there any evidence smoking spreads the CV? It seems like a minority of posters want to use this genuine health crisis to accomplish their agenda, regardless of the law, or the will of the majority.
racquet
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June 28th, 2020 at 8:48:24 AM permalink
If the Governor does not veto legislation, I assume that a simple majority of the two houses of the Nevada legislature is all that is needed to ban smoking everywhere in the state.

The people of Nevada, probably as a condition of statehood (1863?) approved a state constitution giving the legislature this power. A procedure to adopt and amend the laws of the state was put in place, and since then the people have never, so far as I know, taken the opportunity to change this method in how they are governed. If they wanted their governor to have the power and ability to change the law, any law, on his own initiative, they would have said so. It cannot be that suddenly the people want to take this route in how they are governed.

Many people consider prostitution to be evil, no better than smoking cigarettes, probably worse. A majority of the citizens of Nevada disagree. If the Governor SHOULD have the power to ban smoking based on some demonstrable "benefit" to the people, why couldn't he also ban prostitution, should he be in the mood to do so, in direct contradiction to the opinion of the people, and the acts of the legislature?
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June 28th, 2020 at 9:24:29 AM permalink
The mandated masks in public is a joke in Las Vegas. Nobody was wearing a mask when it was only a recommendation, so the Governor mandated it. BUT Metro immediately came out and said they wouldn't be enforcing it. They are not going to fine or lock anyone up. Instead they are supposed to try to "educate" people, whatever that means. So basically wearing a mask in public is STILL optional.

Now in the casinos it should be a little different. The casinos gaming board has mandated that patrons must wear a mask in a casino. And any casino that doesn't enforce it could and should face the same disciplinary action as if the allow underage to gamble.....a fine, right up to losing their license (although that never happens).

So the casinos should be enforcing mask wearing. Now what happens when casino security tells a patron they MUST wear a mask and the patron refuses? By Rule they should be kicked out. And what happens if they refuse to leave? under normal protocol, Metro (police) should be called. But Metro has already said they will not be enforcing it?? Big circle.

Bottom line is people, the casino Industry, the looney Mayor of Las Vegas all bitched when casinos HAD to close. And because they won't adhere to a simple thing like wearing a mask, during the worst emergency situation in our lifetime, cases will (are) increasing and eventually casinos will be closed again. And then they will scream again. This idea of "It is my right not to wear a mask" is basically a cut off your nose to spite your face thing. People are stupid.
billryan
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June 28th, 2020 at 9:31:57 AM permalink
Nevada has some strange laws. The Legislature only meets for a few weeks every other year and most things need to be approved by two consecutive legislatures so it takes at least two years to accomplish anything. The State Representatives work part-time, and most have other fulltime careers. It's a growing conflict as most newcomers flock to the cities and want big government while a minority lives in the rural areas which geographically represent 95% of the state, but only about 15% of the population.
Arizona is very similar. About 80% of the population lives in two cities and want very different things than the farmers and ranchers who occupy most of the state.
kewlj
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June 28th, 2020 at 9:40:30 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Nevada has some strange laws. The Legislature only meets for a few weeks every other year and most things need to be approved by two consecutive legislatures so it takes at least two years to accomplish anything. The State Representatives work part-time, and most have other fulltime careers.



It is even weirder than just that. There is a certain time limit for when they meet every other year. Off the top of my head, something like March through a specific day in June. So for about 3 months they do nothing. Well they meet everyday, maybe hammer out some of the easy stuff, but they push the big stuff off to the last minute. Then the final few days they work around the clock, with lawmakers literally sleeping on cots for a couple hours each night. It is sort of a big game of chicken to see who will crack first. lol

For those of us like you and I, coming from places that are more normal, it is fascinating to watch this government in action. Sort of like going to the circus for the first time.
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June 28th, 2020 at 9:43:38 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

The mandated masks in public is a joke in Las Vegas. Nobody was wearing a mask when it was only a recommendation, so the Governor mandated it. BUT Metro immediately came out and said they wouldn't be enforcing it. They are not going to fine or lock anyone up. Instead they are supposed to try to "educate" people, whatever that means. So basically wearing a mask in public is STILL optional.

Now in the casinos it should be a little different. The casinos gaming board has mandated that patrons must wear a mask in a casino. And any casino that doesn't enforce it could and should face the same disciplinary action as if the allow underage to gamble.....a fine, right up to losing their license (although that never happens).

So the casinos should be enforcing mask wearing. Now what happens when casino security tells a patron they MUST wear a mask and the patron refuses? By Rule they should be kicked out. And what happens if they refuse to leave? under normal protocol, Metro (police) should be called. But Metro has already said they will not be enforcing it?? Big circle.

Bottom line is people, the casino Industry, the looney Mayor of Las Vegas all bitched when casinos HAD to close. And because they won't adhere to a simple thing like wearing a mask, during the worst emergency situation in our lifetime, cases will (are) increasing and eventually casinos will be closed again. And then they will scream again. This idea of "It is my right not to wear a mask" is basically a cut off your nose to spite your face thing. People are stupid.



While metro may not enforce mask wearing they will enforce trespassing violations which is what the casino will claim if you refuse to both wear a mask or leave
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June 28th, 2020 at 9:49:56 AM permalink
I have been staying at Caesars and Orleans for the last eight days. When I first got here 30% were wearing masks, when it became mandatory 99%. Casino personnel are stepping up efforts on the casino floor. I was reminded at a slot machine because my mask dropped below my nose. I saw one idiot get 86ed by hotel security because he would not wear a mask at Carnival Court. Stations and Boyd are taking all temperatures as you come in, Caesars just those checking in which is a joke. Cleaning machines is spotted at all. Palace has big wipes at all trash cans, Orleans individual wipes here and there, Caesars an occasional bucket of wipes by the machines. Caesars is big on the hand sanitizers. Every 25 feet there seems to be one. Out in public areas ( away from the strip) I seen 95%+ wear masks.
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tringlomane
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June 28th, 2020 at 12:08:20 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Do you really want your governor to have the power to declare such things? Is there any evidence smoking spreads the CV?



I don't think there has been an offical scientific study, but basic physics should lead everyone to this conclusion. Smokers usually blow out their smoke forcefully. And they'll be having masks off to do it.

If the tribes have the guts to temp-ban smoking, why not the states?

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