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July 8th, 2020 at 4:58:44 PM permalink
I am an MD. But not an expert of Infectious Disease. I am friends with one who happens to practice in Las Vegas. And I also know and communicate with a bunch of Drs.who are involved in the drug trials, at least peripherally.

I am an ‘expert’ (I don’t like the word) on ventilators and intubation. I’ve worn surgical masks my entire career, and rarely N-95 masks.

It is hard for me to imagine that universal mask wearing would not decrease the spread of COVID-19. How much? I’d just be guessing.
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July 8th, 2020 at 5:24:48 PM permalink
I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.
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July 8th, 2020 at 8:25:42 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I am an MD. But not an expert of Infectious Disease. I am friends with one who happens to practice in Las Vegas. And I also know and communicate with a bunch of Drs.who are involved in the drug trials, at least peripherally.

I am an ‘expert’ (I don’t like the word) on ventilators and intubation. I’ve worn surgical masks my entire career, and rarely N-95 masks.

It is hard for me to imagine that universal mask wearing would not decrease the spread of COVID-19. How much? I’d just be guessing.



Greetings Doc,
The old saying goes... use commonsense for common good.

Now a n95facemask stops most covid19 from being sucked into the lungs. Then why not all wears the n95facemask instead of a NON-N95FACEMASK such as any face-cloth/cheap mask?

USA can made tons of nukes, then why not USA makes billions of n95facemasks for all its citizens?

Do you remember the macroeconomics101: the guns versus butter?

Now USA is at war with covid19.

Covidninteen101 model applies here just like the macroeconomics101:
N95FACEMASKs(aka vital items for national defense) VS butter (aka "parties" @ the Mega Church in Phenix, @Bok Center inTulsa, & @Mt Rushmore: the $5.4 million-July4th-event , etc)

The option for picking the right choice is clear, but where is the "beef" for all its citizens?

https://imgur.com/XfU8LXB

Covid19 has been landing in USA since Jan 2020; Where is the "beef" aka N95FACEMASK for its citizens?
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July 8th, 2020 at 10:03:52 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.


If God himself came down and said wear a mask because it works....they would still object.
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July 8th, 2020 at 10:06:46 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Quote: rxwine

I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.


If God himself came down and said wear a mask because it works....they would still object.



Yeah they would say the constitution guarantees them separation of church and state.

They don't have to listen to God. They have constitutional rights as Americans
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July 9th, 2020 at 7:26:13 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Quote: rxwine

I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.


If God himself came down and said wear a mask because it works....they would still object.



I would assume it is a hoax by the churches to aquire more followers. I also would never follow the advice of a fictional deity.
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July 9th, 2020 at 9:52:30 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.



Individualist v. Collectivist culture.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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July 9th, 2020 at 10:16:55 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Quote: rxwine

I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.



Individualist v. Collectivist culture.



I would never pick one of those only.
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July 9th, 2020 at 10:29:45 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Quote: Mission146

Quote: rxwine

I heard a psychologist say that some of the same people resisting mask usage, would have been equally resistant if told they couldn't wear a mask by an authority. Then they would wear one in defiance.

Rebelling against authority against your own best interests seems more like a childish response than a grownup one.



Individualist v. Collectivist culture.



I would never pick one of those only.



Come on. Everyone else is doing it.
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July 9th, 2020 at 3:56:16 PM permalink
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So the new governors directive states that everyone must wear a mask when out in public or in a business. So why are they still allowing people to smoke inside casinos. I’m playing Bingo and I get scolded for not wearing a mask but the people smoking are allowed to have their mask off and smoke?

Something wrong here



They are guidelines and they are rules and regulations, still are open to some type of interpretation as well as how to be enforced by each individual property. They are not criminal laws and they are not going to be enforced universally and standardized amongst all the properties.

As well one shift might interpret them different than another shift at the same property or have problem enforcing them, due to lack of personnel and non-compliant players. There is going to be a problem with players and personnel and there's a fine line with the Personnel trying to keep everybody satisfied meaning the players as well as the government officials and as well as the management and the media that reports on everything.
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July 9th, 2020 at 5:28:20 PM permalink
The number of competing venues effects the uniformity of enforcement.

In New England, there are two casinos in CT who initially were coordinating their opening and rules. They operate independently from the state of CT, so they can have differing rules and levels of enforcement, but since there are only two of them they can demand compliance with no loss in traffic to the other site so long as they both are equally tough about it.

In RI there are two casinos, operated by the same company. There is no competition. One set of rules and enforcement is uniform since one state's ruling authority controls the whole show.

In NV, since there are so many different organizations operating a host of properties, uniform enforcement industry-wide cannot happen - there are too many variables.

Even within a single casino, across different parts of the property, over three shifts, and accounting for differing personnel due to vacations and days off, uniform levels of compliance, regardless of what management says it's doing ("the safety of our guests and employees has always been our HIGHEST priority") will not happen.

Just yesterday I saw someone at my local casino without a mask for more than ten minutes without anyone making an issue of it. Then a self-appointed "mall cop" type casino enforcer decided he was the Chief Inquisitor of Health and got in the guy's face about it. Dozens of other employees let it pass, but this guy took his appointment to the COVID Gestapo to heart and was totally on the job.

Without editorializing about the incident, I mention it just to demonstrate that mask-wearing, like all of the other "guidelines" depend to a very great extent to who, what, when, ans where.
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July 9th, 2020 at 7:59:02 PM permalink
The mask saved these people from infection:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/two-missouri-hairstylists-with-coronavirus-saw-140-clients-none-infected-2020-6%3famp
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July 10th, 2020 at 9:30:00 AM permalink
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The mask saved these people from infection:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/two-missouri-hairstylists-with-coronavirus-saw-140-clients-none-infected-2020-6%3famp



N95facemasks could save these drivers from covid19-infection too:
https://imgur.com/cE5B1RO


The same old story pops up over and over again, and 64,771 New Cases pop up in 1 day (YESTERDAY)! Governments have screwed up:
1 Goverments fail to provide its citizens with a n95facemask.
2 They make thousands of drivers wait on long lines ( or wait on phone for HOURS* ) to renew licenses or file other documents in DMV .
*I kid you not. DMV had indeed placed a driver on hold for 7 hours & 51 minutes, and then DMV hang up on the driver without any explanation. Here is a proof:
https://imgur.com/SsYrYul




Some sickening news on covid19 keeps on coming:
Updated July 9, 2020

TOTAL CASES in USA per CDV.gov
3,047,671
64,771 New Cases*
TOTAL DEATHS
132,056
991 New Deaths*
*Compared to yesterday's data
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