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May 15th, 2020 at 5:05:52 PM permalink
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A lot of these new rules and regulations the casinos are hyping won’t be enforced. A lot of PR hype to get people okay with the idea of reopening. Anyone really think the pit bosses are going to wipe down the player’s spot every time someone leaves the table?



That’s exactly what I been saying. All these emails and announcements coming from casinos about new procedures and “7 point plans” and “revamped guidelines”.. it’s all nonsense. Go into a casino about a month after they reopen. You’ll feel like your back in pre January 2020 again. Aside from the customers who’ll have masks on.

Bottom line, when you take part in casino gambling you’re taking a health risk. You always were , now there’s just an additional and more highly contagious risk. I will not be shocked if there’s an outbreak in southern NJ after AC opens. As of now it’s the only area of the state that’s been lightly hit because it’s not as densely populated.
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May 15th, 2020 at 5:35:27 PM permalink
MGM now taking reservations for these dates:

Bellagio, NYNY: June 1
MGM Grand: June 4
All other MGM Vegas resorts: July 1

I suspect the first three resort openings are what they’re really aiming for right now and the other resorts could get pushed back further than July 1 based on demand.
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May 15th, 2020 at 9:48:46 PM permalink
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I will not be shocked if there’s an outbreak in southern NJ after AC opens. As of now it’s the only area of the state that’s been lightly hit because it’s not as densely populated.



I would suspect that not necessarily be the case, the majority of AC casinos are fairly empty during the week. Borgata is really the only one that has a steady flow of patrons. Most of the competition from PA and Philly has cannibalized the AC crowd and if anywhere, I would pick Wind Creek to have the first incident of outbreak.

They had a handful of employees test positive and they bus in the most people on a daily basis. I haven't been there in a year and don't ever plan to go back. They were infested and a health risk since they opened table games 10 years ago. Heck, they wouldn't even give bottled war to you if you didn't have Preferred Member Player Card, which is very tough to get no matter how much you play there.
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May 15th, 2020 at 10:23:50 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

I would suspect that not necessarily be the case, the majority of AC casinos are fairly empty during the week. Borgata is really the only one that has a steady flow of patrons. Most of the competition from PA and Philly has cannibalized the AC crowd and if anywhere, I would pick Wind Creek to have the first incident of outbreak.

They had a handful of employees test positive and they bus in the most people on a daily basis. I haven't been there in a year and don't ever plan to go back. They were infested and a health risk since they opened table games 10 years ago. Heck, they wouldn't even give bottled war to you if you didn't have Preferred Member Player Card, which is very tough to get no matter how much you play there.



A manager at wind creek once told me they have 8 buses come in from NYC each day. Wonder if they’ll still want that crowd heading in.
They are switching to appointment-only gambling according to their email.
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May 15th, 2020 at 10:57:50 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

A manager at wind creek once told me they have 8 buses come in from NYC each day. Wonder if they’ll still want that crowd heading in.
They are switching to appointment-only gambling according to their email.



I guess it depends on the contract with the bus company and the driver's willingness to be exposed daily. If the bus company makes Wind Creek adhere to their contract AND the drivers agree to a compensation rate adjustment(for better or worse), then I suppose the buses would continue.

I do know of one bus company that ran 3 daily buses to AC and 5 during the weekend, will be shutting down indefinitely and has laid off several drivers who did the AC run. One of those drivers texted me personally to inform me of this. But they were hardly ever full and were barely staying afloat prior to covid closures.
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May 16th, 2020 at 1:03:05 AM permalink
We are headed to an inflationary or deflationary spiral. It probably has already happened and we don't even know it. Seems like we're damned if we do, damned if we don't, and damned because we can't do without the system in place. I'm tired of looking for something to eat and being unsatisfied, and in the future, people could be tired of not eating.

Added: Our society is falling apart. The shit thing about all all the money the fed is spending is it really is mostly being spent in ways which it's not even real. Money to pay for things which are just contracts with no real value in them by themselves. They're not spending a trillion on a trillion's worth of shoes or apples, it's just being spent in digital ways. The pain will be felt in real ways for people who are in the bottom 50%. If I think about it, now there are people with a motive to not want things to return similar to what we had, enough billionaires would make more money with a shut down, reshaping of the world we know. The only limit is the imagination. My first thought would be there would be a motive to spread this virus to some people.
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May 16th, 2020 at 5:14:03 AM permalink
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They won't. They will argue that because the dealer is wearing a mask it doesn't matter.



No way can they. If wearing masks obviated the need for '6 feet', then we could have full tables just by requiring patrons wear masks. Either 6 feet matters or 6 feet does not matter.
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May 16th, 2020 at 5:25:09 AM permalink
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No way can they. If wearing masks obviated the need for '6 feet', then we could have full tables just by requiring patrons wear masks. Either 6 feet matters or 6 feet does not matter.

If you give an inch, they'll take a mile. I'm pretty sure 5'11" is ok but I'm not sure 1'11" is ok. As more people get sick, it really has to get better.No treatment, no vaccine, cannot all wait for this to be true if it winds up being the case.
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May 16th, 2020 at 6:43:30 AM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

Here are pictures of additional lines at other casinos.

https://imgur.com/a/TXuEg37

https://imgur.com/a/35GMz8p




Those idiots are waiting to get inside to start their social distancing!
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May 16th, 2020 at 8:55:36 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

No way can they. If wearing masks obviated the need for '6 feet', then we could have full tables just by requiring patrons wear masks. Either 6 feet matters or 6 feet does not matter.



I agree it shouldn't be okay, but the six feet social distancing will not be enforced.
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May 16th, 2020 at 9:51:25 AM permalink
I'm pretty much sure Vegas is going to hurt big time for a long long time. Most people aren't willing to fly to Vegas from all over the world. The health risks are to big and flight rates will go up substancially when a large number of seats can't be sold because of social distancing. And most international travelers won't visit Vegas when pool areas and nightclubs are closed, concerts are cancelled, shows are dark, restaurants have limited seating, table games are limited, etc. It's not even close to the Vegas experience tourists are looking for. I wouldn't be surprised if some casino operations went belly up.
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May 16th, 2020 at 10:07:25 AM permalink
I guess it comes down to which casino buildings are already paid off, or could be paid off if the bank weren't closed.
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May 16th, 2020 at 10:49:21 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

No way can they. If wearing masks obviated the need for '6 feet', then we could have full tables just by requiring patrons wear masks. Either 6 feet matters or 6 feet does not matter.


You know why they aren’t going to go that route....

In reality, requiring masks is probably the best way to go. Governor out here invoked the violence potential as some lame excuse for not making it a requirement. The reality is he knows there is a bigger, far more important argument to the casinos for not making it requirement.

The guidelines are the biggest farce going, IMO. Penny wise, pound foolish.
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May 16th, 2020 at 11:41:05 AM permalink
A local Indian slot club opened up yesterday because they are out of the jurisdiction of state law, yet they are running Class II slot machines, go figure. They will require masks be worn at all times, 6' social distancing (like in the stores), only 31 people allowed in the casino at one time (for 80+ slot machines), they'll take your temperature with a no-contact infrared digital thermometer and boot you at 100.4F/38C or higher. Hand sanitizer machines will be available throughout the casino and should be used in addition to regular hand washing. Machines will be sanitized between users and surfaces will be sanitized hourly.

I think casinos would be wise to open up just a few popular gambling rooms and block off the rest to cut down on the sanitizing efforts.
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May 16th, 2020 at 11:50:17 AM permalink
Supposedly this is the new way to play table games introduced at Hialeah casino in Florida

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May 16th, 2020 at 11:55:33 AM permalink
All of that doesn't do a lot of good as long as players don't wear rubber disposable gloves. Everybody touching those cards is the biggest issue.
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May 16th, 2020 at 11:57:19 AM permalink
I don't see any chips, so this must be a posed picture.

Hialeah Poker Room has terrible idea to deal with Covid-19 to reopen
Look at this monstrosity of a poker room idea.
https://dknation.draftkings.com/2020/5/15/21259908/poker-room-table-shield-re-design-ppe-covid-19-coronavirus-chips-cards-health-hialeah-park-casino
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May 16th, 2020 at 12:09:10 PM permalink
Soboba and Cahuilla announcing May 27th.
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May 18th, 2020 at 6:02:10 PM permalink
Viejas, east of San Diego, opened at 8:00 a.m. this morning. At 9:00 a.m., three of their four floors in the parking garage were full.

Some changes: Sycuan, Wednesday. Jamul, Thursday. And Valley View still plans for Friday.
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May 18th, 2020 at 6:23:56 PM permalink
Win-River, outside of Redding, has been open since Saturday, the 16th.
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May 19th, 2020 at 3:09:21 PM permalink
And Morongo's looking at May 22 too. Guess they're looking at the other places in SoCal and feeling left out?

Edit: And I just noticed the fine print-- "Masks or face covering required at all times. Guests will be subject to temperature checks at the door. Social distancing measures will be encouraged and enforced; casino capacity will be limited and subject to availability. Entry is not guaranteed."
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May 19th, 2020 at 6:07:52 PM permalink
Earliest room reservation available at Borgata is now
August 1st.

Up until yesterday it had been June 1.
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May 19th, 2020 at 7:11:58 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Earliest room reservation available at Borgata is now
August 1st.

Up until yesterday it had been June 1.



On the Caesar's App they offer me comp rooms for June 3-30. Tried booking it and it keeps getting an error. So you may be correct in AC hotels not committing to any bookings yet.

They are offering a daily tier point giveaway by accepting the offer on the app, so I am getting 10 tier points a day with out a penny worth of play!
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May 19th, 2020 at 8:50:06 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

On the Caesar's App they offer me comp rooms for June 3-30. Tried booking it and it keeps getting an error. So you may be correct in AC hotels not committing to any bookings yet.

They are offering a daily tier point giveaway by accepting the offer on the app, so I am getting 10 tier points a day with out a penny worth of play!



Wow, that's like a candy bar 3x a month from their gift shop
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May 19th, 2020 at 9:23:07 PM permalink
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How do you MAKE SURE that no one walks within 6 feet of a player seated at a table?



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May 19th, 2020 at 11:51:34 PM permalink
You must have seen the restaurant with inner tube tables

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May 20th, 2020 at 6:45:38 AM permalink
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Earliest room reservation available at Borgata is now
August 1st.

Up until yesterday it had been June 1.



Please tell me this isn't so! i was all geared up and ready to go on June 1. I got 9 stacks of Bennies wrapped up and ready to throw down on the 3 player craps tables! Is this accurate info? Im sooo disappointed.
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May 20th, 2020 at 6:47:08 AM permalink
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Please tell me this isn't so! i was all geared up and ready to go on June 1. I got 9 stacks of Bennies wrapped up and ready to throw down on the 3 player craps tables! Is this accurate info? Im sooo disappointed.



I guess Im gonna have to take a drive down to Louisiana or Mississippi if none of the other east coast states open up soon!
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May 20th, 2020 at 2:31:14 PM permalink
Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.
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May 20th, 2020 at 4:19:01 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?
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May 20th, 2020 at 5:53:24 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?



Before 1978 wasn't the only place that had legalized gambling Las Vegas?
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May 20th, 2020 at 6:14:17 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?



Before 1978 wasn't the only place that had legalized gambling Las Vegas?



No way. Reno started up around same time as Vegas. Hell I bet Laughlin was going before AC opened.
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May 20th, 2020 at 7:48:52 PM permalink
So that makes it easier. Did NV casinos close when Kennedy was shot?
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May 20th, 2020 at 8:09:36 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Quote: darkoz

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Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?



Before 1978 wasn't the only place that had legalized gambling Las Vegas?



No way. Reno started up around same time as Vegas. Hell I bet Laughlin was going before AC opened.



Laughlin opened his motel/casino in 1964. First resort casino was 1966
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May 20th, 2020 at 9:35:30 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?



Before 1978 wasn't the only place that had legalized gambling Las Vegas?



No way. Reno started up around same time as Vegas. Hell I bet Laughlin was going before AC opened.



Sorry, my East Coast came out.

I should have said Nevada.

On the East Coast Las Vegas is synonymous with Nevada and gambling. Most likely anyone who says their going gambling in Nevada assumes Vegas

So to clarify Nevada was the only state with gambling before 1978?
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May 20th, 2020 at 9:54:23 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: mcallister3200

Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?



Before 1978 wasn't the only place that had legalized gambling Las Vegas?



No way. Reno started up around same time as Vegas. Hell I bet Laughlin was going before AC opened.



Sorry, my East Coast came out.

I should have said Nevada.

On the East Coast Las Vegas is synonymous with Nevada and gambling. Most likely anyone who says their going gambling in Nevada assumes Vegas

So to clarify Nevada was the only state with gambling before 1978?

Do the 1800's count? Deadwood, Aces and Eights.
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May 20th, 2020 at 10:04:20 PM permalink
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Wow, that's like a candy bar 3x a month from their gift shop



Huh? I didn't know you could use Tier points to redeem items in the gift shop?

Looks like your attempts at humor are just like your attempts to make money, they fall short of the mark!
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May 20th, 2020 at 10:43:17 PM permalink
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Huh? I didn't know you could use Tier points to redeem items in the gift shop?

Looks like your attempts at humor are just like your attempts to make money, they fall short of the mark!



Whenever you earn tier points at the slots you get equivalent reward points (except for the odd specials days)

To me they are the same thing.

If earning them the way you mentioned doesn't even buy you stuff at the gift shop then what a waste of time.
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May 20th, 2020 at 11:26:40 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Whenever you earn tier points at the slots you get equivalent reward points (except for the odd specials days)

To me they are the same thing.



Nope, incorrect. When you get tier credits from an online giveaway or contest, they do not give you Reward Credits as well.

But since it's all the same to you, I guess you could convince some homeless people to redeem the tier creds for you with the promise of candy bars!
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May 20th, 2020 at 11:35:41 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

Nope, incorrect. When you get tier credits from an online giveaway or contest, they do not give you Reward Credits as well.

But since it's all the same to you, I guess you could convince some homeless people to redeem the tier creds for you with the promise of candy bars! [/


What can you use tier points for?

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May 20th, 2020 at 11:48:22 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

Nope, incorrect. When you get tier credits from an online giveaway or contest, they do not give you Reward Credits as well.

But since it's all the same to you, I guess you could convince some homeless people to redeem the tier creds for you with the promise of candy bars!



I don't waste my time with worthless online contests that won't even buy a candy bar.

What's your plan for your worthless tier credits?
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May 21st, 2020 at 3:23:46 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: mcallister3200

Quote: darkoz

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: Wizard

Sorry if this has been posted yet, but here is an easy to use map of all open casinos in the US:

COVID-19 Casino Tracker

As of now (5/20/20), there are 100 open and 889 closed. Looks like Oklahoma is the place to be for gambling right now.



Claim is every casino in the USA was closed at one point. Any idea when the last time that happened was? 1963? 1941?



Before 1978 wasn't the only place that had legalized gambling Las Vegas?



No way. Reno started up around same time as Vegas. Hell I bet Laughlin was going before AC opened.



Sorry, my East Coast came out.

I should have said Nevada.

On the East Coast Las Vegas is synonymous with Nevada and gambling. Most likely anyone who says their going gambling in Nevada assumes Vegas

So to clarify Nevada was the only state with gambling before 1978?



Were there some early Indian Casinos in the 70s? I have no idea. But for the question I figure it is impossible to calculate "early" casinos before territories were officially organized but had casino saloons. Just go back to whenever NV legalized as the start date. For that my guess is it comes down to 1963 or 1941.

By "closed" I mean 24 hours or more, Not some pause in 1963 that was a "minute of silence" kind of thing.
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May 21st, 2020 at 11:56:25 AM permalink
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May 21st, 2020 at 12:14:56 PM permalink
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"Men playing faro in an Arizona saloon in 1895"



Arizona wasn't a state back then. If we include territories, Puerto Rico has had gambling since at least the mid-60s when Scarne and Thorpe first battled.
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May 21st, 2020 at 2:59:10 PM permalink
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I don't waste my time with worthless online contests that won't even buy a candy bar.

What's your plan for your worthless tier credits?



https://www.caesars.com/content/dam/caesars-rewards/pdf/2020-flipbook.pdf

And you call yourself an AP?
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May 21st, 2020 at 3:10:00 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

https://www.caesars.com/content/dam/caesars-rewards/pdf/2020-flipbook.pdf

And you call yourself an AP?



Yep!

Those are suckerbait perks designed to make players feel important

While you have worthless tier points getting you back a few pennies I get thousands in Freeplay
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May 21st, 2020 at 3:29:41 PM permalink
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While you have worthless tier points getting you back a few pennies I get thousands in Freeplay



Until someone cracks your safe again and uses them...
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May 21st, 2020 at 3:29:44 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz


While you have worthless tier points getting you back a few pennies I get thousands in Freeplay



Until someone cracks your safe again and uses them...
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May 21st, 2020 at 3:45:54 PM permalink
Quote: BedWetterBetter

Until someone cracks your safe again and uses them...



Poor comeback.

I expect better.

There's crime in the world. Big deal
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
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May 21st, 2020 at 3:55:10 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Poor comeback.

I expect better.

There's crime in the world. Big deal


Translation: "I'm owned again and have to back pedal now"

Better luck next time!
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