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February 16th, 2020 at 7:00:39 PM permalink
I was at the market when the election thread was closed. I still have something to say.

"Well, this thread certainly went off the rails quickly. I could easily throw down suspensions right and left" -- Wizard

Go for it. I thought we did pretty darn well, considering. I thought most of what we said could be used to make a guess on the current election. We brought up factors that affected past elections. I didn't see it go "off the rails quickly".

But go for it. If you think we clearly violated the spirit, then "easily throw down some suspensions". I won't cry about "entrapment", I don't think it was entrapment. And I'm no crybaby. Do it. It's your shop.
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February 16th, 2020 at 7:18:34 PM permalink
I do respect acts of civil disobedience and will file your suspension under that. Hope there are no hard feelings.

Anybody else?
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February 16th, 2020 at 10:46:11 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Yea, worth coming back for this.



Bitter much? I've never seen a
more honorable man than Mike,
is that why you're so jealous of
him? Pretty sad..
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February 17th, 2020 at 1:09:47 AM permalink
I toad a so.
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February 17th, 2020 at 3:05:56 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Yea, worth coming back for this...



I have never seen anyone go out in a blaze of glory so well, well done. Let's have that beer in hell, as I lost your number.

Please extend my apologies to your wife, if she has any hard feelings.

Quote: EvenBob

Bitter much? I've never seen a
more honorable man than Mike,
is that why you're so jealous of
him?



Thanks EB.
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February 17th, 2020 at 3:44:01 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Yea, worth coming back for this.



Couldn't you have just gotten strawberries on Babe Ruth's shirt to go out in a blaze if glory?
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February 17th, 2020 at 6:08:06 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Yea, worth coming back for this.



So at the end of the day, does money and net worth matter? If so, Soopoo beats us all as he lets us know at every turn.
!



Money and net worth does matter. But not as a measure of a person's worth. I think people are interested in my stock stuff. Some must be, they interact pleasantly. I frankly don't know how many have saved more than I have. Who cares? My 'worth' is in the 10's of thousands of patients I made laugh before I put them to sleep, and in the hundreds of patients that were on death's door that I helped survive. And in the way I've treated all the people I've come in contact with.

Boz, I've interacted with you respectfully over the years. Mostly agreements. Some disagreements. Not sure what led you to be this small.
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February 17th, 2020 at 7:33:00 AM permalink
SOOPOO, Mrs and I count you as a prince among men. A good guy.
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February 17th, 2020 at 7:56:53 AM permalink
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SOOPOO, Mrs and I count you as a prince among men. A good guy.



SOOPOO is one of the few people on this board that I would like to meet and haven't had the opportunity. Hopefully some day soon.
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:00:49 AM permalink
Though I can't see the whole comment, I'm sure what was said was inaccurate. You do seem like a good one, SOOPOO!
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

Though I can't see the whole comment, I'm sure what was said was inaccurate. You do seem like a good one, SOOPOO!



There was even a Nathan reference in the original.
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:12:39 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

There was even a Nathan reference in the original.



Now that's just going too far.
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:17:42 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

Though I can't see the whole comment


It was a lot of really ugly stuff towards Wiz, stuff involving his wife, children, finances....

I’m assuming it was worth a nuke
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:26:22 AM permalink
Wow. That's really unfortunate and generally uncharacteristic of Boz from what I've seen. You'd think in a community of gamblers, many who do it frequently and some for large stakes that we'd see a bit better emotional regulation from its members hmm?
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:30:39 AM permalink
Addition by subtraction.
Nuff Said!
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February 17th, 2020 at 10:24:14 AM permalink
I have met many of the regulars. Any who come to Buffalo/Niagara Falls have a free built in tour guide.

I hope to be in Vegas this year for spring fling. To meet more of the good people from WoV.

I’m not sure what happened to Boz. It is difficult to be that mean spirited.

Edit. To be clear, Boz’s comment about me is totally fair. I can see someone struggling financially a tad annoyed with all my stock blabber.
But his attack on Wizard and especially his family was frankly, despicable. It’s why I copied the part about me but not the part about Wizard. Which is thankfully now deleted.
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February 17th, 2020 at 10:31:53 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I have met many of the regulars. Any who come to Buffalo/Niagara Falls have a free built in tour guide.

I hope to be in Vegas this year for spring fling. To meet more of the good people from WoV.

I’m not sure what happened to Boz. It is difficult to be that mean spirited.

Edit. To be clear, Boz’s comment about me is totally fair. I can see someone struggling financially a tad annoyed with all my stock blabber.
But his attack on Wizard and especially his family was frankly, despicable. It’s why I copied the part about me but not the part about Wizard. Which is thankfully now deleted.



I believe he purposely posted it at a time of night when it was likely to sit out there for hours , and be seen by as many people as possible before being deleted.
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February 17th, 2020 at 10:32:23 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO


But his attack on Wizard and especially his family was frankly, despicable.



The amount of hatred and venom in
his post was really quite sickening.
It's like he's mentally deranged.
I was uncomfortable reading it
from such a long standing member.
Get help, dude, somethings wrong
with you.
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February 17th, 2020 at 11:32:12 AM permalink
Let me say that it is forum precedent to leave personal insults as a way of documenting the reason for a nuke. It was even left up for a while after I read it, as I can take a punch. However, bringing family members of forum members, especially women, is beyond personal insults of forum members and is immediately nuke-worthy and the post not worthy to remain.

I don't wish to defend myself, as Boz actually made some valid points, although in a deplorable way.

However, I've known SOOPOO for years and he is a true gentleman, extremely smart, and very generous. As I recall, he has offered free medical advice to any forum member. I don't recall ever needing any, but he has consulted non-forum-member friends of mine over the phone and never even asked it to count as a favor. I've heard doctors hate to be asked medical advice off the clock, but SOOPOO is a true exception to that. As to bringing up his wealth from time to time, I've found it to only be when it was needed to provide context to a point he was making. In person, he is just a normal guy. You would probably think he lived on a teacher's salary if you saw his spending habits.

The attack on SOOPOO had nothing to do with the venom he harbors against me and have no idea why he threw it in there.
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February 17th, 2020 at 11:49:08 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Let me say that it is forum precedent to leave personal insults as a way of documenting the reason for a nuke.



I quoted the whole thing in my
post shorty after Boz posted it.
I went back and deleted most
of it because it was so vile it
didn't deserve to be quoted.
Boz was here for 9 years, what's
wrong with him.

Quote:

I've known SOOPOO for years and he is.. extremely smart,


Have you seen some of his
political posts on DT?
Apparently not..
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February 17th, 2020 at 12:14:46 PM permalink
Quote: Minty

Wow. That's really unfortunate and generally uncharacteristic of Boz from what I've seen. You'd think in a community of gamblers, many who do it frequently and some for large stakes that we'd see a bit better emotional regulation from its members hmm?



It's totally characteristic. I don't know why he seems to keep a dossier on every member then lambast them with personal insults. I don't even see why Bozz even cares since he is such a successful businessman and has time to care about nonsense like it's his whole life.
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February 17th, 2020 at 12:16:24 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I have met many of the regulars. Any who come to Buffalo/Niagara Falls have a free built in tour guide.

I hope to be in Vegas this year for spring fling. To meet more of the good people from WoV.

I’m not sure what happened to Boz. It is difficult to be that mean spirited.

Edit. To be clear, Boz’s comment about me is totally fair. I can see someone struggling financially a tad annoyed with all my stock blabber.
But his attack on Wizard and especially his family was frankly, despicable. It’s why I copied the part about me but not the part about Wizard. Which is thankfully now deleted.

You are bragadocious, he was being kind to you.
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February 17th, 2020 at 12:38:21 PM permalink
I read it before it was deleted. I was only going to comment that when Boz suggested they meet up to have a beer in. Vegas, that at least he didn’t hold a grudge.

(Only because the whole thing appeared to be a laundry list of grudges, and that last comment was kinda funny)
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February 17th, 2020 at 12:47:26 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

You are bragadocious, he was being kind to you.



I’ll accept that. You can choose to interact with me or not, after weighing the value of my posts versus the annoying bragadociousness I exhibit. Next time you are up my way let me buy you lunch. I think you won’t find me as braggadocious in real life.
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February 17th, 2020 at 3:14:27 PM permalink
It's a pity the election betting thread was closed. I found it an interesting challenge trying to stay on the fairway of straight political analysis while not having a post land in the weeds of political opinion. Still, while I don't think it had yet gone off the rails, it was, admittedly, heading down that trajectory.
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February 17th, 2020 at 3:21:43 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

It's a pity the election betting thread was closed. I found it an interesting challenge trying to stay on the fairway of straight political analysis while not having a post land in the weeds of political opinion. Still, while I don't think it had yet gone off the rails, it was, admittedly, heading down that trajectory.



I agree that it is a shame that I had to close it. However, it would be too hard to police it. Like a mob of jaywalking tourists on the Strip, once one person make a political comment, everybody else does the same, like lemmings.
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February 17th, 2020 at 4:03:36 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I agree that it is a shame that I had to close it. However, it would be too hard to police it. Like a mob of jaywalking tourists on the Strip, once one person make a political comment, everybody else does the same, like lemmings.



New Yorkers and jaywalking.

Police know better than to try a crackdown.

Still it was a thread you had a personal interest in. It's kind of like when the parents cancel that Disneyland trip because the kids were bad and the parents were probably looking forward to the trip more
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February 17th, 2020 at 4:10:59 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

New Yorkers and jaywalking.

Police know better than to try a crackdown.

Still it was a thread you had a personal interest in. It's kind of like when the parents cancel that Disneyland trip because the kids were bad and the parents were probably looking forward to the trip more



I went to Disneyworld exactly once.
You couldn't get me to go again
if it cost me nothing and I got $500.
I hated everything about it. Too many
lines, too many people, way too humid.
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February 17th, 2020 at 4:32:18 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I went to Disneyworld exactly once.
You couldn't get me to go again
if it cost me nothing and I got $500.
I hated everything about it. Too many
lines, too many people, way too humid.



It doesn't surprise me you don't like Disneyland (Isn't Vegas called the adult Disneyland?)

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February 17th, 2020 at 4:34:08 PM permalink
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You would probably think he lived on a teacher's salary if you saw his spending habits.

Some of us have a few words for that.😁
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February 17th, 2020 at 5:36:17 PM permalink
Nevermind, darkoz beat me to it
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February 17th, 2020 at 6:15:39 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I have met many of the regulars. Any who come to Buffalo/Niagara Falls have a free built in tour guide.

I hope to be in Vegas this year for spring fling. To meet more of the good people from WoV.

I’m not sure what happened to Boz. It is difficult to be that mean spirited.

Edit. To be clear, Boz’s comment about me is totally fair. I can see someone struggling financially a tad annoyed with all my stock blabber.
But his attack on Wizard and especially his family was frankly, despicable. It’s why I copied the part about me but not the part about Wizard. Which is thankfully now deleted.



Anyone who tries to sell off a portion of there potential prize money after week 3 in a $25 NFL pool, is certainly not showing themselves to be wealthy or flaunting.
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February 17th, 2020 at 8:12:43 PM permalink
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It doesn't surprise me you don't like Disneyland



Wouldn't know, never been to Disneyland.
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February 17th, 2020 at 9:03:53 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Wouldn't know, never been to Disneyland.



It's about the same difference as visiting Harrah's new Orleans vs. Harrah's Atlantic City

Mostly the same. A few differences in size and scope and rides and amenities
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February 17th, 2020 at 9:13:47 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

It's about the same difference as visiting Harrah's new Orleans vs. Harrah's Atlantic City

Mostly the same. A few differences in size and scope and rides and amenities



I can’t see Bob enjoying DisneyAnything
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February 17th, 2020 at 9:54:14 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

It's about the same difference as visiting Harrah's new Orleans vs. Harrah's Atlantic City



So those places have long lines of
kids and adults, everything costs
a fortune, and you have tolerate
huge crowds of Japanese and
Chinese tourists taking constant
pics of everything? Somehow I don't
think so.

Typical day at Disneyland:

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February 17th, 2020 at 11:00:49 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Anyone who tries to sell off a portion of there potential prize money after week 3 in a $25 NFL pool, is certainly not showing themselves to be wealthy or flaunting.



It's a game, unfair fallacious judgement.
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February 18th, 2020 at 12:05:54 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Typical day at Disneyland:


It can look that way although I think this particular picture is slightly misleading. The angle of the sun shows it to be late afternoon. Also note the people sitting on the curb. I would guess this photo was taken right after a parade--a Halloween parade from the decor--had just ended and the viewers lining Main Street were heading back to the rides all at once.

As for Disney World, I do agree about the weather. When I visited, the humidity felt like it had been cranked up to simulate a balmy summer day in Cambodia.
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February 18th, 2020 at 12:51:56 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere



As for Disney World, I do agree about the weather. When I visited, the humidity felt like it had been cranked up to simulate a balmy summer day in Cambodia.



They should have a Cambodia world there open for the Summer. Sounds perfect.

Actually, I wish Disney had lived long enough to fully create his original vision for Epcot. A privately owned city of the future. Don't know if it would have survived long term, but ultimately Epcot just became another type of entertainment theme park once Walt was dead.
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February 18th, 2020 at 1:14:45 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere



As for Disney World, I do agree about the weather. When I visited, the humidity felt like it had been cranked up to simulate a balmy summer day in Cambodia.



I was there in March or April and the humidity
was already so high that I felt like I couldn't
breathe. I know a lot of people on this forum
live in Florida, I don't see how you do it. Even
Hemingway spent his summers in Montana,
he couldn't take the heat and humidity in
Key West. He claimed it was worse than Cuba.
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February 18th, 2020 at 3:29:31 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So those places have long lines of
kids and adults, everything costs
a fortune, and you have tolerate
huge crowds of Japanese and
Chinese tourists taking constant
pics of everything? Somehow I don't
think so.

Typical day at Disneyland:



Stereotyping entire countries? Sounds like a racist thing to say to me. I am deeply offended, Should be at least a 30 day suspension.
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February 18th, 2020 at 4:36:06 AM permalink
This whole thread got hijacked by Disneyland

I have a lot of advantage play secrets to make a Disneyland/Disneyworld vacation more fun when it comes to the long lines (that's not a joke) People who don't follow my techniques are definitely Disneyland ploppies.

Do I have permission to start a Disney park advantage play thread? (Might cause an Exodus of Disneyites)
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February 18th, 2020 at 4:45:30 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I went to Disneyworld exactly once.
You couldn't get me to go again
if it cost me nothing and I got $500.
I hated everything about it. Too many
lines, too many people, way too humid.



I don't blame you at all. Other than EPCOT I cannot see why an adult would want to go. Yet there are tons of Disney Geeks out there. I watched a few of their YT channels a bit. Amazing how many go back and back. No thanks.
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February 18th, 2020 at 5:41:07 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

As for Disney World, I do agree about the weather. When I visited, the humidity felt like it had been cranked up to simulate a balmy summer day in Cambodia.

Unfortunately, the humidity doesn't get 'cranked up.' It's always here! On the coasts, you get the sea breeze, and the weather is much more temperate. But Disney is smack dab in the middle of the peninsula, and gets no such relief.


Quote: darkoz

I have a lot of advantage play secrets to make a Disneyland/Disneyworld vacation more fun when it comes to the long lines (that's not a joke) People who don't follow my techniques are definitely Disneyland ploppies.

Do I have permission to start a Disney park advantage play thread? (Might cause an Exodus of Disneyites)

I'd be interested in your 'Disney secrets.' I've got a few of my own. Maybe we should compare notes!


Quote: AZDuffman

I don't blame you at all. Other than EPCOT I cannot see why an adult would want to go. Yet there are tons of Disney Geeks out there. I watched a few of their YT channels a bit. Amazing how many go back and back. No thanks.

The thing is, what Disney sells is nostalgia. They get you hooked as kids. Then you are compelled to go back as adults for the nostalgia. If you didn't get 'Disneyfied' as a kid, visiting Disney as an adult will be underwhelming.
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February 18th, 2020 at 5:44:12 AM permalink
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Anyone who tries to sell off a portion of there potential prize money after week 3 in a $25 NFL pool, is certainly not showing themselves to be wealthy or flaunting.



Touché! I do it for the fun of the discussion. Actually, my main reason for being here is my fascination with what others (APs) do. I rarely post a trip report because I think most would consider my stories downright boring.
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February 18th, 2020 at 7:20:45 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I can’t see Bob enjoying DisneyAnything



edited above post
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February 18th, 2020 at 8:37:55 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I went to Disneyworld exactly once.
You couldn't get me to go again
if it cost me nothing and I got $500.
I hated everything about it. Too many
lines, too many people, way too humid.



You went at the wrong time of year, it sounds like. I always go during the off-season. Decent temps, minimal crowds, 20-30 min wait times max for the rides. Usually it's more like 5-10 minutes.

Quote: michael99000

I can’t see Bob enjoying DisneyAnything



I think I've said it before, but I'll say it again... EB sounds like one of those people that's only happy when he's miserable...
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February 18th, 2020 at 8:55:32 AM permalink
Been to Disney World about a dozen times when our daughter was growing up. We always went between Thanksgiving and Christmas, no lines and nice weather. It was fun as a family thing, I have to say I enjoyed it. But now, it's not on the list. We’d rather go other places.
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February 18th, 2020 at 9:17:47 AM permalink
I did read a book about getting the best out of a Disney Land or Disney World experience. Kinda took an edgy approach to it as it covered some more scandalous topics, but it was a decent read. Available on Kindle somewhere.
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February 18th, 2020 at 9:41:42 AM permalink
Quote: Minty

I did read a book about getting the best out of a Disney Land or Disney World experience. Kinda took an edgy approach to it as it covered some more scandalous topics, but it was a decent read. Available on Kindle somewhere.


Did the scandalous part involve hiring someone in a wheelchair to be part of your family for the day? I've heard of that tactic.
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