Should Kavanaugh by required to take polygraph test during the up coming FBI investigation?
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Quote: EvenBobClinton, Obama, Trump, which liar got
the most done is all I care about.
He's had the house and senate for two years now, so not much to stop him. He started with a good economy. Clear sailing,
Quote: rxwineHe's had the house and senate for two years now, so not much to stop him. He started with a good economy. Clear sailing,
Could not be more wrong rx.
Quote:Republicans will have controlled the House of Representatives for six years of the Obama Administration, but they will only have controlled Congress in its entirety for the final two years of President Obama's tenure.
The 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress) for the first time since the 109th Congress. With 248 seats in the House of Representatives and 54 seats in the Senate, this Congress began with the largest Republican majority since the 71st Congress of 1929–1931.
Quote: Maverick17I never went into a room with friend and felt up a girl who was not into me.
Neither did Kavanaugh. what's your point.
Quote: rxwineHe started with a good economy. Clear sailing,
LOLOL
but excellent try. I can see why you would be confused.
Quote: EvenBobNeither did Kavanaugh. what's your point.
Justice Kavanaugh had nothing to do with my point, and you knew that.
Banging on the doors of SCOTUS, now this. These people are not well.
Quote: AZDuffmanRosemount educator on leave after tweeting 'kill Kavanaugh?'
Banging on the doors of SCOTUS, now this. These people are not well.
No one wants stupid tweets like this on the left
The right loves stupid tweets from anne coulter and orange monkey
Quote: rxwineHe started with a good economy. Clear sailing,
Not true.
GDP Growth was slowing, and fell in the last two quarters of 2016.
Unemployment was mostly unchanged in 2016, and increased in Dec. 2016, and Jan. 2017.
Been falling since.
Between 2007 and 2016, the economy only added 2.75 million full time employees to the labor force.
The economy lost 211,000 manufacturing jobs between 2008 and 2016, and lost 33,000 manufacturing jobs in 2016 alone.
It has added 378k manufacturing jobs since Jan 2017.
Quote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanRosemount educator on leave after tweeting 'kill Kavanaugh?'
Banging on the doors of SCOTUS, now this. These people are not well.
No one wants stupid tweets like this on the left
The right loves stupid tweets from anne coulter and orange monkey
Really? In the real world, and not here in post whatever you want fantasy land, most PEOPLE don't want nasty tweets from either side.
Quote: RonCQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanRosemount educator on leave after tweeting 'kill Kavanaugh?'
Banging on the doors of SCOTUS, now this. These people are not well.
No one wants stupid tweets like this on the left
The right loves stupid tweets from anne coulter and orange monkey
Really? In the real world, and not here in post whatever you want fantasy land, most PEOPLE don't want nasty tweets from either side.
Well Im glad to hear that
But didnt Trump get elected based on his bombastic tweets?
A lot of his supporters follow them religiously
Quote: darkozQuote: RonCQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanRosemount educator on leave after tweeting 'kill Kavanaugh?'
Banging on the doors of SCOTUS, now this. These people are not well.
No one wants stupid tweets like this on the left
The right loves stupid tweets from anne coulter and orange monkey
Really? In the real world, and not here in post whatever you want fantasy land, most PEOPLE don't want nasty tweets from either side.Quote: darkozBut didnt Trump get elected based on his bombastic tweets?
He had a message that resonated with voters better than that of his opponent's. His opponent thought it was in the bag and did not visit key states important to the Electoral College. A bunch of people voted AGAINST his opponent, not FOR him.
But...saying it was Twitter and saying he is this, that, and the other things is a much easier way to lump everyone together!Quote: darkozA lot of his supporters follow them religiously
I don't have Twitter, but I am sure some of them do. I don't like his tweets and have taken a moment to express my opinion on that to the White House. He has not changed based on my opinion to date...LOL...
Quote: TankoNot true.
GDP Growth was slowing, and fell in the last two quarters of 2016.
Unemployment was mostly unchanged in 2016, and increased in Dec. 2016, and Jan. 2017.
Been falling since.
Between 2007 and 2016, the economy only added 2.75 million full time employees to the labor force.
The economy lost 211,000 manufacturing jobs between 2008 and 2016, and lost 33,000 manufacturing jobs in 2016 alone.
It has added 378k manufacturing jobs since Jan 2017.
I don't know why you are counting 2007 and 2008, but even counting 2009 when the recession was at its worst, that's some next level cherry picking s**t right there.
Kudos. That takes balls.
Obama handed Trump a growing economy. Trying to argue otherwise is stupid. We can't even have a legitimate and honest debate when you use that as the launch pad.
Quote: Steverinos
Kudos. That takes balls.
Obama handed Trump a growing economy. Trying to argue otherwise is stupid. We can't even have a legitimate and honest debate when you use that as the launch pad.
Yeah, I was going to ask who inherited the better economy out of Obama and Trump, but decided there wouldn’t be a point.
Quote: EvenBobHe was never accused of rape, it was
groping thru her clothes. Something
me and every guy did in HS, how else
were you getting to 2nd base. She sure
as hell wasn't going to invite you.
I appreciate that you tried to correct her account of the event, but yours is equally incorrect.
She got pushed through a door, which was then locked.
She was locked in with 2 staggeringly drunk older guys.
One of them jumped on her and pinned her down on a bed.
One of them turned up the music so nobody could hear.
When she tried to scream for help, Kavanaugh put his hand across her mouth to stifle her.
When she tried to get up, he wouldn't let her.
While she was struggling and panicking, they laughed at her.
A "little bit" different than an unwelcome grope on a date, as you dismissively imply. Like a hell of a lot closer to rape than not.
Quote: AZDuffman
Banging on the doors of SCOTUS, now this. These people are not well.
It was a scene straight out the series
Walking Dead. But their faces gave
them away, they were having a good
time, Soros pays them well to act
like idiots.
This isn't a banana republic where you
can topple a building and the whole
gov't crashed down. If you're upset
the only place you can make changes
is in the voting booth like. Like we did
after 8 years of the worst president
we ever had. Elections have consequences..
Quote: beachbumbabsShe got pushed through a door,
And she remembers all the itty bitty
details you just listed, but not the
day, the month or year, the house
it was at, or apparently anybody
else who was at this 'party'. All
those she did name claim it never
happened. She can't remember how
she got there, or how she got home.
But she remembers she had one beer
and is 100% certain who her attacker
was. Sure she does.. Liar liar pants on fire..
Quote: EvenBobAll
those she did name claim it never
happened.
That's not what they said. And in my opinion, it leads even more credibility to her story that she would name individuals who could not recall the gathering.
If this was a demcoratic smear campaign, funded by Soros, which the conspiracy theorists here believe, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD WITNESSES LINED UP THAT WOULD CORROBORATE THE STORY.
And for a federal judge to consistently misrepresent what those "witnesses" said, well, add it to the long list of other misleading statements and lies that disqualified him.
The reason for which periods is clear to everyone following this thread. It is in clear response to this erroneous assertion: " Quote: "He started with a good economy. Clear sailing,"Quote: SteverinosQuote: TankoNot true.
GDP Growth was slowing, and fell in the last two quarters of 2016.
Unemployment was mostly unchanged in 2016, and increased in Dec. 2016, and Jan. 2017.
Been falling since.
Between 2007 and 2016, the economy only added 2.75 million full time employees to the labor force.
The economy lost 211,000 manufacturing jobs between 2008 and 2016, and lost 33,000 manufacturing jobs in 2016 alone.
It has added 378k manufacturing jobs since Jan 2017.
I don't know why you are counting 2007 and 2008, but even counting 2009 when the recession was at its worst, that's some next level cherry picking s**t right there.
Kudos. That takes balls.
It is not in any way "stupid," especially when not a single substantiated fact is presented.Quote: SteverinosObama handed Trump a growing economy. Trying to argue otherwise is stupid. We can't even have a legitimate and honest debate when you use that as the launch pad.
In other words, with more than 300 million names that could be cited, the fact that none of them would recall the gathering would have really made her story bulletproof.Quote: SteverinosThat's not what they said. And in my opinion, it leads even more credibility to her story that she would name individuals who could not recall the gathering.
Quote: Steverinos
Obama handed Trump a growing economy. Trying to argue otherwise is stupid. We can't even have a legitimate and honest debate when you use that as the launch pad.
It is not stupid. Watch the first ten minutes this video(if you dare):
Quote: SanchoPanzaIn other words, with more than 300 million names that could be cited, the fact that none of them would recall the gathering would have really made her story bulletproof.
Just means she was authentic. If she had been planning this for, some here suggested for ten years, she would have the story and witnesses all lined up ahead of time. If Soros had been funding this and was coordinated with the democratic machine, again, as some here have suggested, it would be a pretty dumbass thing to do to name people that wouldn't corroborate the story, don't you think?
But hey, boofing means farting and devils triangle is a quarters game....in Trump land.
Quote: FleaswatterIt is not stupid. Watch the first ten minutes this video(if you dare):
If I dare...lol
I've seen this video. I've said it several times before, and I'll say it again. There are some things to celebrate in the Trump economy. But there are also concerns about the Trump economy.
Trillion dollar deficits are back while they were shrinking under Obama. Deficit spending in a strong economy, historically, hasn't worked. Corporate stock buybacks are setting records and while that's awesome for shareholders, it doesn't really translate to workers. And since only half of Americans are invested in the stock market, including retirement plans, it's hard to argue that a booming stock market means a booming economy for the middle and lower class. Wages are stagnant and not keeping up with inflation.
This wasn't the argument though. The statement was that Obama handed Trump a growing economy. By all traditional measures, job growth, unemployment, GDP, this is true. Arguing that it's not is...yes, in fact, STUPID.
And about 7 years for a Republican president to wreck it
And about 7 days for Republican voters to forget how it happened
Quote: EvenBobAnd she remembers all the itty bitty
details you just listed, but not the
day, the month or year, the house
it was at, or apparently anybody
else who was at this 'party'. All
those she did name claim it never
happened. She can't remember how
she got there, or how she got home.
But she remembers she had one beer
and is 100% certain who her attacker
was. Sure she does.. Liar liar pants on fire..
Did you see the video on the school she teaches at? 80% women, and about as nutjob feminazi as you can get. As far left as you can get. Really makes you question her credibility even more when you see what she has chosen to surround herself with.
Quote: AZDuffmanDid you see the video on the school she teaches at? 80% women, and about as nutjob feminazi as you can get.
One thing this has done is put a knife
in the heart of #metoo. This and that
whacko Asia Argento. That's what this
Ford thing was about, the #metoo'ers
thought they had more power than
they did. Why, we can zip right by
due process when a woman claims
she's a victim. She would never lie,
lynch the dude.
We went through the same thing in
this country in the Salem Witch trials.
Point a finger at a woman, proclaim
her a witch, and the burden of proof
was on her to prove she wasn't.
#metoo had a expiration date on it
from the gitgo, and I think we just
saw it.
You think sexual assault and sexual harassment is ok? Or, no one should talk about it?
There might be some missteps along the way, but I can’t understand anyone who is against the goal of the movement.
Quote: FinsRuleI don’t understand the opposition to the “metoo” movement.
You think sexual assault and sexual harassment is ok? Or, no one should talk about it?
There might be some missteps along the way, but I can’t understand anyone who is against the goal of the movement.
They sound like men who had trouble getting laid their whole lives and now feel sour grapes towards women
Probably caused it by talking that way to the very women they were trying to date
Quote: FinsRuleYou think sexual assault and sexual harassment is ok?
Judgement without due process is the
problem. The media and the Left had
Kavanaugh tried and hanged the same
day the Ford accusations appeared.
Once due process was applied, it became
clearly evident Ford was wrong or lying.
And still, for most on the Left, just
the accusation was enough to disqualify
him. Imagine the precedent this would
have set for future nominee's if this
smear campaign had worked.
Quote: EvenBobJudgement without due process is the
problem. The media and the Left had
Kavanaugh tried and hanged the same
day the Ford accusations appeared.
Once due process was applied, it became
clearly evident Ford was wrong or lying.
And still, for most on the Left, just
the accusation was enough to disqualify
him. Imagine the precedent this would
have set for future nominee's if this
smear campaign had worked.
That’s not responding to my post. I assume you’re for the goal of the metoo movement. Elimination of sexual harassment and assault. Correct?
Quote: FinsRuleI don’t understand the opposition to the “metoo” movement.
You think sexual assault and sexual harassment is ok? Or, no one should talk about it?
There might be some missteps along the way, but I can’t understand anyone who is against the goal of the movement.
Or who would be against free Health Care for everyone
Or $15 an hour job for everyone
Or a 3/2 House for everyone
Or a reliable vehicle for everyone
Or free access to Medical Weed for everyone
Or open borders for everyone looking to come live the American dream
Or one World Currency
Or Nuclear Arms for everyone as a deterrent
It will never be enough for people like you Fins. You know horses but your superiority complex that you know what’s best for others is weak at best. If you can’t see others will always look for a way to best utilize victims to push an agenda, I’d advise you to bet the 4 horse in whatever race you get next. Same chance as liberals caring about Dr Ford. She was a pawn that Chucky used as a tool, and will continue to use for the next 2 plus years.
Quote: BozOr who would be against free Health Care for everyone
Or $15 an hour job for everyone
Or a 3/2 House for everyone
Or a reliable vehicle for everyone
Or free access to Medical Weed for everyone
Or open borders for everyone looking to come live the American dream
Or one World Currency
Or Nuclear Arms for everyone as a deterrent
All of those have to do with money. (Maybe not open borders) Not sexually assaulting or harassing people is free. It just seems silly to be rooting against this.
A post like this is fine. "I'm all for the goal of the metoo movement. I just don't like the way activists seem to be going about it" A post like this just doesn't make sense to me "I hope this movement fails and we can go back to the way things were."
I don't think that's me having a superiority complex. It just seems that there is no middle ground anymore.
No one is saying sexual harassment is okay.
No one is saying justice shouldn’t be served.
We’re saying that a mere accusation and the “guilty before proven innocent” idea are both complete horse-s*** stupid.
The same twisted logic works with feminism — no one’s against equal rights, but equal rights and feminism aren’t one in the same. Feminism is (basically) female superiority.
Same applies to black lives matter. No one is saying black lives don’t matter. We’re saying what they stand for is retarded. And they shouldn’t use Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown as the face of their campaign.
Same thing with borders and immigration. We don’t want illegals in the country. We’re not saying we don’t want or can’t accept Mexican immigration or that Mexicans (immigrating, legally) are bad people.
Okay, some people might be saying black lives don’t matter, all Mexicans are bad, women are terrible, and women shouldn’t speak up about getting raped .... but that’s not what most people on this side of the debate are saying.
Quote: darkozThey sound like men who had trouble getting laid their whole lives and now feel sour grapes towards women
Probably caused it by talking that way to the very women they were trying to date
We also probably have some of this going on.
Quote:mansplaining --a condition that affects many men who believe that it is our natural born right to talk over, interrupt, and especially explain things to women on topics that affect women, are predominantly about women, and that they're probably experts on in the first place.
Lol
His shovel just keeps getting bigger
Quote: Steverinos
I don't know why you are counting 2007 and 2008,.....
Obama handed Trump a growing economy. Trying to argue otherwise is stupid.
I count 2007, because the recession began in December 2007.
1.6% annual GDP growth, which was slowing, rising unemployment, and loss of 33,000 manufacturing jobs, was not a growing economy in 2016.
"Worst Economic Growth Since 2011" WAPO
It took his administration seven years before the number of full time workers limped back to where it was at the start of the recession.
New taxes and 26,642 new government regulations during a recession, didn’t help.
But don’t let the facts get in your way.
Quote: RSAs usual, the problem flies right over the head of liberals. Stop twisting words and idealogies around to fit your narrative.
No one is saying sexual harassment is okay.
No one is saying justice shouldn’t be served.
We’re saying that a mere accusation and the “guilty before proven innocent” idea are both complete horse-s*** stupid.
The same twisted logic works with feminism — no one’s against equal rights, but equal rights and feminism aren’t one in the same. Feminism is (basically) female superiority.
Same applies to black lives matter. No one is saying black lives don’t matter. We’re saying what they stand for is retarded. And they shouldn’t use Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown as the face of their campaign.
Same thing with borders and immigration. We don’t want illegals in the country. We’re not saying we don’t want or can’t accept Mexican immigration or that Mexicans (immigrating, legally) are bad people.
Okay, some people might be saying black lives don’t matter, all Mexicans are bad, women are terrible, and women shouldn’t speak up about getting raped .... but that’s not what most people on this side of the debate are saying.
And that's where we disagree. You might not be saying it, but I guarantee there are people on this forum who do.
And, people might not come out and say "Black lives don't matter" But if an unarmed black man is shot by police, their first thought is that he probably deserved it.
They'll also say that not of course not all Mexicans are bad, but if one was brought here when they were 2 years old, and has no family in Mexico, and doesn't speak Spanish, they need to be deported because they weren't born here.
And they won't say women shouldn't speak up about getting raped, but they will say things like women just need tougher skin if they are offended by a sexual joke in the workplace.
Then we get to the Harvey Weinstein thing. I don't know all the details of it all, but I'm guessing the first person who came forward didn't have "proof." There's just settled lawsuits admitting no wrongdoing. Are there people thinking no one should have spoken up about that or Cosby? I'm not sure how much "proof" there was in that case either.
I just think that since you're taking a rational position "people shouldn't be automatically guilty", you think all others commenting have that rational position also. I don't give people that much credit.
1. People shouldn’t be presumed guilty because of an accusation
2. Young white males are under attack in this country
There are people on each side who are wretched folks. Screaming and shouting that EVERYONE on that side is wretched is ridiculous.
Quote: FinsRuleAnd that's where we disagree. You might not be saying it, but I guarantee there are people on this forum who do.
And, people might not come out and say "Black lives don't matter" But if an unarmed black man is shot by police, their first thought is that he probably deserved it.
They'll also say that not of course not all Mexicans are bad, but if one was brought here when they were 2 years old, and has no family in Mexico, and doesn't speak Spanish, they need to be deported because they weren't born here.
And they won't say women shouldn't speak up about getting raped, but they will say things like women just need tougher skin if they are offended by a sexual joke in the workplace.
Then we get to the Harvey Weinstein thing. I don't know all the details of it all, but I'm guessing the first person who came forward didn't have "proof." There's just settled lawsuits admitting no wrongdoing. Are there people thinking no one should have spoken up about that or Cosby? I'm not sure how much "proof" there was in that case either.
I just think that since you're taking a rational position "people shouldn't be automatically guilty", you think all others commenting have that rational position also. I don't give people that much credit.
I'm not sure what we disagree on....well, other than the last line, because I know for a fact there are people who don't hold that position (innocence before proof of guilt).
I don't really know anything about the Cosby or Weinstein stuff -- other than from what I remember, there were a ton of accusers and I'm gonna have to assume there was enough evidence to support the outcome of those cases.
Of course there are going to be both bad people and very fine people on both sides (tm). Originally you said something to the effect of -- you don't understand why there is opposition to the #MeToo movement and/or saying sexual assault is okay. I'm saying, by and large, the opposition to the #MeToo movement doesn't exist. The same is true for the "acceptance" of sexual assault.
I don't buy it that there is opposition to #MeToo, at least, at the face -- meaning, no one (in general) is against it specifically. What people are against is the .... how do you say it ..... underlying factors, perhaps, around it -- such as the presumption of guilt and immediate reach to judgement. And I'm not just talking about the accusation(s) against Kavanaugh, but you saw the same type of immediate judgement and association to guilt when the accusations against Cosby, Weinstein, Aziz Anzari IIRC, and I'm sure many more. As soon as an accusation was made, the accused (accuseds?) were instantly seen as guilty by many.
And it's not specific to sexual assault / sexual assault allegations, but to any allegations or accusations in general. You see it all the time when there's a shooting, namely with police shooting a black person. The police is immediately viewed as guilty. It seems like every now and then something comes out about an accusation against some company and the same thing happens, people start boycotting restaurants and this and that because of something one person said about that place.
IMO, I blame this political correctness bull-spit. "Nobody" wants to be seen as the person that says, "Well hold on now, why don't we wait to see if, ya know, first of all if this allegation even occurred, and on top of that, what all the facts are about this case, was the deceased minding his own business and murdered in cold blood, or was the shooter defending himself?" because that person, very often, is immediately labeled a racist, misogynist, bigot, or whatever -ist fits the bill.
Quote: FinsRuleTo summarize: Which statement do I agree with?
1. People shouldn’t be presumed guilty because of an accusation
2. Young white males are under attack in this country
I'd say #1 is definitely a given.
#2 -- I'd say everyone is under attack. Groups of people (black people, LGGBDTTTIQQAAPPs, etc.) are attacked by people on the far right. Us white folk get attacked by a larger group -- through lots of media, the far left, and wasn't it Clinton who said something about half of Trump supporters being a basket of deplorables because they're "racist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc.".....well it's probably not accurate to say that about almost 1/4 of our population (and we all damn well know she wasn't talking about the Mexican, black, or other minority people). I'm not saying one is worse than the other nor am I saying they are equal.....but the attacks exist.
I'm sure white people don't enjoy being called racist for supporting Trump nor for supporting McCain or Romney when they were campaigning against Obama just because they were supporting the white candidate vs the black candidate.
Quote: RSI'm not sure what we disagree on....well, other than the last line, because I know for a fact there are people who don't hold that position (innocence before proof of guilt).
I don't really know anything about the Cosby or Weinstein stuff -- other than from what I remember, there were a ton of accusers and I'm gonna have to assume there was enough evidence to support the outcome of those cases.
Of course there are going to be both bad people and very fine people on both sides (tm). Originally you said something to the effect of -- you don't understand why there is opposition to the #MeToo movement and/or saying sexual assault is okay. I'm saying, by and large, the opposition to the #MeToo movement doesn't exist. The same is true for the "acceptance" of sexual assault.
I don't buy it that there is opposition to #MeToo, at least, at the face -- meaning, no one (in general) is against it specifically. What people are against is the .... how do you say it ..... underlying factors, perhaps, around it -- such as the presumption of guilt and immediate reach to judgement. And I'm not just talking about the accusation(s) against Kavanaugh, but you saw the same type of immediate judgement and association to guilt when the accusations against Cosby, Weinstein, Aziz Anzari IIRC, and I'm sure many more. As soon as an accusation was made, the accused (accuseds?) were instantly seen as guilty by many.
And it's not specific to sexual assault / sexual assault allegations, but to any allegations or accusations in general. You see it all the time when there's a shooting, namely with police shooting a black person. The police is immediately viewed as guilty. It seems like every now and then something comes out about an accusation against some company and the same thing happens, people start boycotting restaurants and this and that because of something one person said about that place.
IMO, I blame this political correctness bull-spit. "Nobody" wants to be seen as the person that says, "Well hold on now, why don't we wait to see if, ya know, first of all if this allegation even occurred, and on top of that, what all the facts are about this case, was the deceased minding his own business and murdered in cold blood, or was the shooter defending himself?" because that person, very often, is immediately labeled a racist, misogynist, bigot, or whatever -ist fits the bill.
I'd say #1 is definitely a given.
#2 -- I'd say everyone is under attack. Groups of people (black people, LGGBDTTTIQQAAPPs, etc.) are attacked by people on the far right. Us white folk get attacked by a larger group -- through lots of media, the far left, and wasn't it Clinton who said something about half of Trump supporters being a basket of deplorables because they're "racist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc.".....well it's probably not accurate to say that about almost 1/4 of our population (and we all damn well know she wasn't talking about the Mexican, black, or other minority people). I'm not saying one is worse than the other nor am I saying they are equal.....but the attacks exist.
I'm sure white people don't enjoy being called racist for supporting Trump nor for supporting McCain or Romney when they were campaigning against Obama just because they were supporting the white candidate vs the black candidate.
RS
Per Cosby (short story)
Lots of accusers. He denied everything
One accuser sued him
UNDER OATH in the deposition he admitted to what he did as an agreement for the suit to go away
PER THE SETTLEMENT neither side could talk about it
HE TALKED ABOUT IT in defence of later accusations
That opened up the deposition testimony
He sunk himself in his own words
Quote: RSI'm not sure what we disagree on....well, other than the last line, because I know for a fact there are people who don't hold that position (innocence before proof of guilt).
Like the current POTUS?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case
Quote: darkoz
He sunk himself in his own words
Cosby should have learned from his
own people in the 'hood. Never, under
any circumstances, admit guilt to anything.
Always keep the burden of proof on them.
Even as they strap you into the chair, say
you're not guilty.
favor was, he was a well known and
well liked person in DC. He was a
key behind the scenes player in the
Bush WH, and became friends with
lots of congress members, and media
people.
When he was accused, they knew the guy
well and immediately saw how ridiculous
this was. I can't count the number of
people in DC who said they've known him
for decades and this whole thing was just
stupid. They tried to Bork the wrong guy..
Quote: EvenBobA huge thing Kavanaugh had in his
favor was, he was a well known and
well liked person in DC. He was a
key behind the scenes player in the
Bush WH, and became friends with
lots of congress members, and media
people.
When he was accused, they knew the guy
well and immediately saw how ridiculous
this was. I can't count the number of
people in DC who said they've known him
for decades and this whole thing was just
stupid. They tried to Bork the wrong guy..
I would say that Cosby was universally well like and considered sancrosanct as far as allegations go before this all came to light
Much more so than Kavanaugh
So what exactly is your point?
Quote: EvenBobCosby should have learned from his
own people in the 'hood. Never, under
any circumstances, admit guilt to anything.
Always keep the burden of proof on them.
Even as they strap you into the chair, say
you're not guilty.
Sounds like Trump to me
