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AxelWolf
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:34:08 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Where are you getting this story from?
Next ,she'll be prowling parties looking to take advantage of drunken frat boys

I attended a party with ford when I was 10 (I only had one beer, I swear) she told me everything after she touchy, touchy my no-no zone.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:36:05 PM permalink
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Mission146
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:44:25 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

For a criminal conviction, yes. I tend to hold my Supreme Court Justices to higher standards. Much as I hold someone running for President to a.different standard than someone running a.family company.
A single accusation, Perhaps. Multiple ones plus the sheer contempt he showed in the hearings have changed my opinion. I don't think he deserves to be appointed and hope the investigation shows that.



You also seem to think that a single accusation, not proof, could perhaps be enough to keep him off the SCOTUS. You also seem to think multiple accusations, without proof, are certainly enough.

I don’t see how you accuse me of jumping the shark. I just care about stuff happening to people who are accused of unprovable crimes. I don’t have a rooting interest in Kavanaugh being on the SCOTUS. Quite frankly, I’d prefer he not be, but not because of unprovable accusations.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:46:31 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

If lying or being in any way deceptive is disqualifying, you’ll never have a Supreme Court Justice again, is my point. When they say they’ll look at the cases brought to them impartially, they’ve already lied.

I’m also saying you can’t strictly prove that he lied about anything.


That's exactly the mind-set these grifters want you to have. As long as we're willing to accept this kind of behavior things will never get better.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:57:16 PM permalink
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That's exactly the mind-set these grifters want you to have. As long as we're willing to accept this kind of behavior things will never get better.



You’ve seen the end of any bipartisan efforts anyway, so what difference does it make?

It’s not even enough to pick a side...your side will shun you if you aren’t sufficiently dogmatic or fervent enough in your holding of the tenets.

Ideally, these higher political institutions would be above base hatred for, “The other.” They would represent the best and most reasonable of people, but not anymore. The Senate and the most recent Presidential Election have been representative of the absolute worst that people are capable of.

I don’t see it changing, so screw it. For the status quo to change would require bipartisanism and finding common ground...but that’s the precise opposite of what the status quo is about.
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September 30th, 2018 at 2:58:54 PM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

That's exactly the mind-set these grifters want you to have. As long as we're willing to accept this kind of behavior things will never get better.

Who hasn't lied, you, your SO, a school teacher, actor, realtor, friend, car salesman? Somebody here at wov? Poker players, DI's, Bac players.

You find a completely honest person, they would have something mentally unique and wrong with them.

Relationships are built on honest lies.
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September 30th, 2018 at 3:14:45 PM permalink
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Who hasn't lied, you, your SO, a school teacher, actor, realtor, friend, car salesman? Somebody here at wov? Poker players, DI's, Bac players.


I've never lied in a professional setting about anything non-trivial (e.g., finding an excuse to not join client for dinner)

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Relationships are built on honest lies.


what exactly is an "honest lie"? Not being snarky, just curious.
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Mission146
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September 30th, 2018 at 3:20:05 PM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

I've never lied in a professional setting about anything non-trivial (e.g., finding an excuse to not join client for dinner)

what exactly is an "honest lie"? Not being snarky, just curious.



How is the meaning of the yearbook stuff not trivial? It doesn’t prove or disprove Ford’s claim that a specific physical event took place in any way whatsoever.
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September 30th, 2018 at 3:27:57 PM permalink
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How come no one else remembers it either? So far, everyone has refuted her claims, including her own friend who she admits to abandoning in a rape house. Then afterward, she even made nice with his friend at the supermarket.


Quote: billryan

Where are you getting this story from?
Next ,she'll be prowling parties looking to take advantage of drunken frat boys



"So far, everyone has refuted her claims, including her own friend"

-PJ, Mike Judge and Lealand have all said that they have no recollection of the event Ford describes

"who she admits to abandoning in a rape house"

Ford testimony:
"I waited, and when I did not hear them come back up the stairs, I left the bathroom, went down the same stairwell through the living room, and left the house. I remember being on the street and feeling this enormous sense of relief that I had escaped that house and that Brett and Mark were not coming outside after me."

Ford left without saying anything, abandoning her friend Leland, leaving her alone with possible rapists

"Then afterward, she even made nice with his friend at the supermarket"

Ford testimony:
DURBIN:
In the letter which you sent to Dr. — or, Senator Feinstein you wrote, “I have not knowingly seen Kavanaugh since the assault. I did see Mark Judge once at the Potomac Village Safeway where he was extremely uncomfortable in seeing me.” Would you please describe that encounter at the Safeway with Mark Judge and what led you to believe he was uncomfortable?
FORD: Yes.
I was going to the Potomac Village Safeway — this is the one on the corner of Falls and River Road — and I was with my mother. And I was a teenager, so I wanted her to go in one door and me go in the other.
So I chose the wrong door, because the door I chose was the one where Mark Judge was — looked like he was working there and arranging the shopping carts. And I said “Hello” to him. And his face was white and very uncomfortable saying “Hello” back. And we had previously been friendly at the times that we saw each other over the previous two years. Albeit not very many times, we had always been friendly with one another.
I wouldn’t characterize him as not friendly. He was just nervous and not really wanting to speak with me."
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September 30th, 2018 at 3:30:45 PM permalink
Lying, under oath, to Congress is not only a criminal offence,but is also a reflection of his character. I believe his character alone disqualifies him from consideration from a lifetime appointment.
I'm disappointed in him. I actually thought he wasn't a bad choice when you consider the alternatives.
I've never lied under oath, and I hope I never do. Would you like a Justice who thinks and behaves as he did before Congress. Had the Chairman been impartial, he have been pushing contempt charges.
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