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OneAngryDwarf
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October 21st, 2010 at 10:34:07 AM permalink
Not to brown-nose or anything, but I want to start off with an appreciation for the thorough hotel and casino reviews on this site. For some reason, it seems like this is the only (or least one of the very few) sites out there that actually has detailed info on the type of table games that a casino offers. When I go onto TripAdvisor or similar sites to read reviews of casinos--whether in Vegas or elsewhere--only about 10% of the reviews even mention their gambling experience, and those that do mainly rate the casino on how they did at the slots. Of course if the slots are "loose" they get a good review...

Of course, it's no big secret that slots are the big money-maker for casinos--have been since the 80's--and most people who visit a casino only play slots, probably because they see table games as intimidating. Is it at all possible that table games will be a thing of the past soon, possibly sooner than we think?

It's a little depressing to think of walking down the LV Strip in 50-60 years and seeing nothing but slots in Caesars Palace, Wynn, and Venetian...or nothing but slots, and robots dealing blackjack and craps...what do you think?
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FleaStiff
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October 21st, 2010 at 10:52:11 AM permalink
Think of Keno. There used to be a zillion Keno Runners and there used to be this great large room dedicated to Keno.
Now even if a casino does infact have a Keno room its limited to perhaps one official seat and the rest is all electronic.
There are wireless portable units for a variety of bets.
There are virtual dealers in BJ and Roulette.

Is this a trend? I don't know. All electronic poker got ripped out and replaced with live dealers. Bricks and Clicks... its a blend.

Most money will be wagers online the brick casino may soon exist solely for legal reasons in the same manner that "riverboats" exist even though they are unseaworthy and never sail anywhere.

Personal interaction with a live dealer? I don't know. Players will get used to anything eventually. Robots? Bar codes? Electronic voices? The White Zone is for Loading and .... oh well, maybe that one doesn't even exist anymore. I used to say into the phone "You are welcome for using ATT" but I don't even do that any more.

The question is will people trek to Las Vegas to interact with the same Hot Young Chick they can interact with over the internet?
I tend to think live dealers are fundamental to the casino but I don't think the casinos share my views on that issue.
teddys
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October 21st, 2010 at 11:03:38 AM permalink
I would say no. Too many people like the physical experience of table games compared to the mechanical experience of slots. Also, a lot of people prefer table games (myself included) for the more favorable odds they offer. Young people especially I think gravitate more to tables than slots, so I don't think casinos are worried about losing the customer. (Or maybe the hotshot craps/BJ player automatically morphs into a slot jockey at a certain age? I don't know.) Some of the casinos in Atlantic City are getting 1/2 of their gaming revenue from tables nowadays, and the Pennsylvania casinos are having a lot of success as well. (Rivers and Sands Bethlehem have significantly upped their numbers since they added tables.) So no, I don't think tables are on their way out, but I think they will be limited to certain markets, specifically gaming destinations like A.C./L.V. or large urban areas where they appeal to more people. You're not going to see a jumpin' craps table or hot blackjack action in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan or Burlington, Iowa, for example--slots are still the order of the day there.
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Ayecarumba
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October 21st, 2010 at 11:03:46 AM permalink
I don't think the appeal of table games is the dealers. I think the real draw is handling the cards, cheques, and dice. For these reasons, table games with cards, cheques and dice will never go away.
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mkl654321
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October 21st, 2010 at 11:51:15 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I don't think the appeal of table games is the dealers. I think the real draw is handling the cards, cheques, and dice. For these reasons, table games with cards, cheques and dice will never go away.



What the hecque is a cheque?
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pacomartin
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October 21st, 2010 at 11:54:24 AM permalink
Table games and poker have made a small increase in total gaming from 49.33% or total revenue three years ago to 51.25%.

In Nevada (outside of the Vegas strip) table games dropped slightly from 17.98% to 17.05% in the last three years.

I suspect that table games will increase in popularity on the Vegas strip to distinguish it as a destination.

Gaming is actually very conservative. There are casinos that maintain the old coin machines to appeal to the demographic that likes them. The reality is that is no major casino that has completely eliminated table games in Nevada. Even if the bulk of the profit comes from slot machines, the table games change the atmosphere of the establishment from a slot parlor.
Croupier
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October 21st, 2010 at 12:01:43 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

What the hecque is a cheque?



Another name for a chip.
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Ayecarumba
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October 21st, 2010 at 12:03:21 PM permalink
Quote: mkl654321

What the hecque is a cheque?



Hehe. Cheques have values printed on them. They represent fixed amounts in the casino. "Chips" do not have fixed values printed on them. They are used at Roulette tables. If you drop a $100 bill on a Craps table, the dealer will probably call out "Cheque Change!".
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DJTeddyBear
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October 21st, 2010 at 12:48:31 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Too many people like the physical experience of table games compared to the mechanical experience of slots.

Those people will be dead in 50 years.

As you pointed out, young people gravitate towards slots. It's the Nintendo generation. They also gravitate towards the electronics of TableMaster.
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Nareed
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October 21st, 2010 at 12:53:18 PM permalink
I think semi-electronic games like Rapid Craps will become more prevalent. More people are coming to trust machines rather than people to handle their money. These types of games also make bet-tracking easier and much more accurate for comps purposes, though the same can be said for RFID-enabled chips. But real cards and dice on the table will likely be around for a long time.
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