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May 6th, 2018 at 5:22:58 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Most people will move up or down income quintiles in their lifetimes.



Quintiles, a lovely word.

quin·tile
1.
Statistics
any of five equal groups into which a population can be divided according to the distribution of values of a particular variable.

I'm going to start using it in sentences
just to confuse people. It sounds so
authoritarian..
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May 6th, 2018 at 5:29:44 PM permalink
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Medicare comes out of FICA payments. Social security does as well. As does unemployment. It's an error of thinking to include them into general expenditures when they have their own (and separate) lines of revenue. (Sidebar edit: WHY is it fair that EVERYONE pays 7.62% on their first 100k or so, and then it stops being deducted? Why shouldn't it be that same percentage of ALL income? You aren't double-taxed in FICA.)



Slight correction. Medicare is a separate 1.45% tax paid by both the person and the company in addition to FICA. Also the Medicare tax is more a true tax than FICA, as it does not end at any high income level. There is also some additional .9% bonus tax the 'rich' pay for Medicare. FICA ends at the value that the government figures out a max payment, which is now around 130k, not 100k. Since someone making 40 million a year will get the same payout as someone making 130k a year, they are 'contributing' the same amount. That's why I always say it is complicated as to how to consider FICA, as a tax or a contribution.
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May 6th, 2018 at 9:07:25 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I want a liberal to address these numbers. 2 million out of our 325 million pay 70% of our taxes. I guess the numbers are just shocking to me. Do you truly believe that it is fairer for the 'rich' to pay even more? How much is enough? Should the top 2 million Americans pay 90% of our taxes? How about all of the taxes?



Simply asking the question shows a liberal bias. Broke people have no money to pay, so the burden must always fall on unequal amounts. One way to make any distribution "fair" or "fairer" is for the government to figure out how to get blood from stones. The other way to make things more fair and for tax payers to be better off is for the government to stop spending so much. Until they do that, any questions of tax fairness is focus on the symptoms, while helping to make the underlying problem worse.

Until the government can figure out a way to get money from people who don't have any money, we have a system that is good enough to cover their spending. If any rich person wants things to be more fair, they can do what the underclasses used to do and go on strike.
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May 7th, 2018 at 10:26:11 AM permalink
Uh Oh

Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll

CNN) — First lady Melania Trump has in recent weeks experienced a significant surge in support, a new CNN poll reveals, including among women and Democrats.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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May 7th, 2018 at 10:29:12 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Uh Oh

Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll

CNN) — First lady Melania Trump has in recent weeks experienced a significant surge in support, a new CNN poll reveals, including among women and Democrats.



Not sure what "uh oh" means here. But maybe Melania is getting some sympathy votes here? She sure deserves it.
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May 7th, 2018 at 10:33:12 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Uh Oh

Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll

CNN) — First lady Melania Trump has in recent weeks experienced a significant surge in support, a new CNN poll reveals, including among women and Democrats.



Turns out that if your husband has bareback sex with a porn star while you're home nursing your newborn, it will garner some sympathy.
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May 7th, 2018 at 10:33:26 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Uh Oh

Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll


#fakenews
#whogivesaflyingf$%@
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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May 7th, 2018 at 10:58:25 AM permalink
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Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll

CNN) — First lady Melania Trump has in recent weeks experienced a significant surge in support, a new CNN poll reveals, including among women and Democrats.


EB watches more CNN then libs on the left
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:26:12 AM permalink
Republican hero John McCain is unfortunately on his death bed due to brain cancer.

He’s requested a eulogy from Barack Obama, and that Trump not attend the funeral at all.
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:27:31 AM permalink
If they just banned fast food and cigarettes, or refused to subsidize those making those decisions, healthcare would be affordable for most....ridiculous of course, but cars/guns/anything that contributes to a large number of deaths seems to be on the table for discussion.

Fast food really probably should be given the idiot tax like cigs and cost $15 a meal for the good of everyone who’s not interested in self destruction.
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:29:43 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

If they just banned fast food and cigarettes, or refused to subsidize those making those decisions, healthcare would be affordable for most....ridiculous of course, but cars/guns/anything that contributes to a large number of deaths seems to be on the table for discussion.


Prohibition. How very liberal of you.
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:40:06 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Republican hero John McCain is unfortunately on his death bed due to brain cancer.

He’s requested a eulogy from Barack Obama, and that Trump not attend the funeral at all.



I wonder if Sarah Palin is invited...
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:40:26 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Republican hero John McCain



McCain is a RINO, he's the reason I
voted for Obama in 08. What a
jackass, he would have made a terrible
president.
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May 7th, 2018 at 11:42:02 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Republican hero John McCain is unfortunately on his death bed due to brain cancer.

He’s requested a eulogy from Barack Obama, and that Trump not attend the funeral at all.



Sad yes. Some of trumps comments on McCain show he height of his verbal pettiness.

Should there be not only term limits but an age limit on some of these positions? I believe John is 81. I personally don’t want anyone over 80 making any decisions for me, too unpredictable for mind or Heath to deteriorate quickly. Donald, Hillary, and Bernie were all too damn old to be running for president in the last election IMO.
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May 7th, 2018 at 12:07:05 PM permalink
As people gather for the unveiling of his wife's anti- bullying initiative, trump feels the need to announce he will have something to say tomorrow. He can't even give his wife her moment.
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May 7th, 2018 at 12:11:19 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

As people gather for the unveiling of his wife's anti- bullying initiative, trump feels the need to announce he will have something to say tomorrow. He can't even give his wife her moment.



He didn't bother to get her a birthday present either. The guy's a douche.
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May 7th, 2018 at 12:16:45 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Sad yes. Some of trumps comments on McCain show he height of his verbal pettiness.



Who cares. I cannot stand McCain, he's a
fake and a phony and should have been
gone a decade ago. Dems love him because
he's a RINO, it's why I wince every time I
hear him speak.
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May 7th, 2018 at 12:26:40 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Sad yes. Some of trumps comments on McCain show he height of his verbal pettiness.

Should there be not only term limits but an age limit on some of these positions? I believe John is 81. I personally don’t want anyone over 80 making any decisions for me, too unpredictable for mind or Heath to deteriorate quickly. Donald, Hillary, and Bernie were all too damn old to be running for president in the last election IMO.



IDK. I lobbied Strom Thurmond when he was 93 and still grabbing bottoms. He also could still form sentences and his staff either put on a really good show of deferring to his ideas and decisions, or they had him trussed like a Christmas turkey for showtime. Honestly can't say, but I think he was functional even then.

Perhaps, like driver's licensing, there should be an annual physical and mental evaluation for them to pass to remain in office, required to be reported to the constituency, after age xx.

Or perhaps people could simply vote them out. With the Congressional Seniority system so powerful, a lot of formerly powerful people get propped up like scarecrows by their staff just so they don't lose the rank for the state. I think seniority helps more than it hurts, though, because it retains institutional memory and allows for some continuity.
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May 7th, 2018 at 1:31:22 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Uh Oh

Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll

CNN) — First lady Melania Trump has in recent weeks experienced a significant surge in support, a new CNN poll reveals, including among women and Democrats.



I don't even know what Melania can do, but I'd trust her more than her husband if she took over as President and sent him packing off to the porn star convention.
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:19:07 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Quote: EvenBob

Uh Oh

Melania Trump’s Popularity Jumps In New CNN Poll

CNN) — First lady Melania Trump has in recent weeks experienced a significant surge in support, a new CNN poll reveals, including among women and Democrats.



I don't even know what Melania can do, but I'd trust her more than her husband if she took over as President and sent him packing off to the porn star convention.



What's funny is when EB wants his post to have cred
He goes straight to CNN to copy and post
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:43:01 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Republican hero John McCain is unfortunately on his death bed due to brain cancer.

He’s requested a eulogy from Barack Obama, and that Trump not attend the funeral at all.



Pretty low class on his part. I never understood why he was in the GOP since he never supported anything the GOP stood for.
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:54:33 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Pretty low class on his part. I never understood why he was in the GOP since he never supported anything the GOP stood for.



McCain is a pretty classy person
If McCain was not classy like the President, he would refer to her as Dumb Sarah Palin (Lyin Ted, Little Marco ect)
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:56:13 PM permalink
Whats up with Blankenship in West VA
He says he more Trump then Trump himself
Yet
Trump is against him?
WTF
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:56:20 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

McCain is a pretty classy person
If McCain was not classy like the President, he would refer to her as Dumb Sarah Palin (Lyin Ted, Little Marco ect)



The Palin family will only attend McCain's funeral if there's an open bar.
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May 7th, 2018 at 2:58:19 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Pretty low class on his part. I never understood why he was in the GOP since he never supported anything the GOP stood for.



Nope. They could always depend on RINO
John to endorse whatever crap bill the Dems
came up with. He was often the tying vote
in the senate and went for the Dem side
90% of the time. Screw him, what a phony.
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May 7th, 2018 at 3:55:23 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. They could always depend on RINO
John to endorse whatever crap bill the Dems
came up with. He was often the tying vote
in the senate and went for the Dem side
90% of the time. Screw him, what a phony.



All the time he thought the media liked him, "independents" too. All the time they liked him the same way the screws on the tier like the rat. Soon as the rat is of no use to them, they abandon him. I remember within days of him locking the nomination up the NYT turned on him. He never got it.

He is one of my biggest reasons for being against open primaries.
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:13:54 PM permalink
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Should there be not only term limits but an age limit on some of these positions?



Term limits, absolutely, and age limit should be SS full retirement age (right now it's 67 I believe?).

People that old and older are too out of touch with reality and the direction societies are headed to be in charge of anything.

And I don't mean that in a bad way... that's just how it goes. I mean, I'm "only" 41, and I already feel out of touch with a lot of things. Give me another 25-30 years and there's no way I should have any serious responsibilities. The people I work with that are 10, 15, 20 years older than me are clueless about so many things.
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:30:25 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Pretty low class on his part. I never understood why he was in the GOP since he never supported anything the GOP stood for.



I'm going to assume you don't get the whole class thing .
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:32:25 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I remember within days of him locking the nomination up the NYT turned on him. He never got it.



McCain is one of the big players in the
pee pee dossier. He saw it and peed
his own pants that it might be true and
he busted ass getting it where it could
hurt Trump. He's a traitor to his own
party, it's great that none of what he
wanted worked. Trump is still president
and will be for the rest of McCain's life,
and to 2025.
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:33:04 PM permalink
I'm driving around town and the guys on the radio are talking about the prez and how in an interview he said the last book he read was All is Quiet on The Western Front. A book many people his age read in high school. That lead to some speculation.....
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:51:44 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I'm going to assume you don't get the whole class thing .



I know McCain is not showing any. He is clearly upset that Trump got the job done and he was the Steve Lombardi of 2008.
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May 7th, 2018 at 4:57:47 PM permalink
Turns out Donnies future Ex lifted the material for her Be Best literature directly from Obama era federal publications.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-trumps-best-materials-familiar-ring-220808120.html


Perhaps she should make an example and stand up to the worse internet bully in the nation.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:06:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. They could always depend on RINO
John to endorse whatever crap bill the Dems
came up with. He was often the tying vote
in the senate and went for the Dem side
90% of the time. Screw him, what a phony.



EB thinks John McCain votes with the Dems 90% of the time...

Anyone want to bother fact checking this one? lol
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:20:06 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

EB thinks John McCain votes with the Dems 90% of the time...

Anyone want to bother fact checking this one? lol



EB doesn't think anything. He copies from some story he found on the internet with out checking to see if it's true or not.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:24:05 PM permalink
Trump is going down with his policies his making. And I don't even get it why USA would like to shut down countries with nuclear when USA is the one who used it more before
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:31:12 PM permalink
And Trump should not focus on his drinks and foods. He is making nonsense comments and wasting time. ;)
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:32:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

McCain is one of the big players in the
pee pee dossier. He saw it and peed
his own pants that it might be true and
he busted ass getting it where it could
hurt Trump. He's a traitor to his own
party, it's great that none of what he
wanted worked. Trump is still president
and will be for the rest of McCain's life,
and to 2025.

Trump ought to round up a couple Russian hookers to go pee on McCains grave,,,and make a tape.
In McCains support for illegals he said that if there were any Americans that could work the season in Yuma picking vegetables, he would personally pay them $50 per hour.

He really had something against American labor. Hard to believe he kept getting elected, just shows you how staunch Rep. it is down here. Anything he could do to keep wages lower, he would do.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:40:20 PM permalink
Quote: Benjiex

Trump is going down with his policies his making. And I don't even get it why USA would like to shut down countries with nuclear when USA is the one who used it more before



You don't get why we would not want another country, an enemy, to have nukes? Really?
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:41:42 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Pretty low class on his part. I never understood why he was in the GOP since he never supported anything the GOP stood for.



But how much better would America be if we wouldn’t have fallen for “Yes we can” in 08? Obviously at least 800 Billion less in debt from the stimulus alone. Along with a hell of a lot of cars that still had miles left in them on the road.
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May 7th, 2018 at 5:44:53 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Whats up with Blankenship in West VA
He says he more Trump then Trump himself
Yet
Trump is against him?
WTF



Simple to me, a criminal or an illegal should not be able to vote, let alone run for office. And in the case if WV, you shouldn’t be able to marry your cousin.

I actually like Joe Manchin, no clue who he didn’t switch parties. He would have been a shoe in.
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May 7th, 2018 at 7:17:42 PM permalink
For your viewing pleasure....

Donald Trump Motorboating Rudy Guliani dressed in drag

100% legit
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May 8th, 2018 at 4:46:00 AM permalink
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For your viewing pleasure....

Donald Trump Motorboating Rudy Guliani dressed in drag

100% legit


The gif didn’t load but I’m gonna say it’s probably #FakeNews

Although I kinda hope it’s real, even though idk what it is, because that’d be funny.
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May 8th, 2018 at 5:50:11 AM permalink
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Quote: gamerfreak

For your viewing pleasure....

Donald Trump Motorboating Rudy Guliani dressed in drag

100% legit


The gif didn’t load but I’m gonna say it’s probably #FakeNews

Although I kinda hope it’s real, even though idk what it is, because that’d be funny.


#RealNews

Apparently it was for some sort of skit at a charity dinner or something.

https://www.insideedition.com/headlines/17607-rudy-looks-like-a-lady-giuliani-dressed-in-drag-with-donald-trump-in-newly-unearthed
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May 8th, 2018 at 8:04:46 AM permalink
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Simple to me, a criminal or an illegal should not be able to vote, let alone run for office. And in the case if WV, you shouldn’t be able to marry your cousin.

I actually like Joe Manchin, no clue who he didn’t switch parties. He would have been a shoe in.


If the people of WV vote for Blankenship
so be it
I don't think there should be any restrictions on running for office
Let the people decide
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May 8th, 2018 at 9:51:48 AM permalink
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If the people of WV vote for Blankenship
so be it
I don't think there should be any restrictions on running for office
Let the people decide



It says a lot about the current state of the GOP that these truly horrible human beings keep winning their primaries (or even come close to winning them).
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May 8th, 2018 at 10:42:54 AM permalink
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It says a lot about the current state of the GOP that these truly horrible human beings keep winning their primaries (or even come close to winning them).



Tribalism. It's ruining our country.
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May 8th, 2018 at 10:49:08 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

It says a lot about the current state of the GOP that these truly horrible human beings keep winning their primaries (or even come close to winning them).



Im sure with Blankenship they will blame the ChinaPersons
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May 8th, 2018 at 11:10:07 AM permalink
Brian Steltzer on CNN says not to worry,
the disgraced AG of NY will continue in
his quest to bring down Trump. The Dem
mascots for the midterms:

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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May 8th, 2018 at 11:25:00 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: gamerfreak

For your viewing pleasure....

Donald Trump Motorboating Rudy Guliani dressed in drag

100% legit


The gif didn’t load but I’m gonna say it’s probably #FakeNews

Although I kinda hope it’s real, even though idk what it is, because that’d be funny.



It's very real. It was on all the news channels about 25 years ago (thinking 90s, could have the date wrong). They were being clever and cute, back when it was cool to make fun of men in drag and stuff like that.

Look up Milton Berle, Tony Curtis, Jack Lemmon, Flip Wilson. Then figure Tyler Perry - Medea, Robin Williams - Doubtfire, Dustin Hoffman -Tootsie, Dame Edna - Hairspray, bunch of others. Tom Hanks and another guy had a series doing it called Bosom Buddies. All straight men (I think) very famous in their time doing drag. A couple won Oscar nominations for it. Butch guys were expected to play along, motorboat, flirt, whatever.
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May 8th, 2018 at 11:27:16 AM permalink
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Brian Steltzer on CNN says


Amazing how much CNN EB watches
He must be a huge fan
Who is Brian Steltzer and why does EB listen to this guy?
Maybe because EB knows CNN is the most trusted name in news

How did the guy from Stray Cats get into the news business :-)
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