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May 2nd, 2018 at 2:13:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In Calif I was too, because I was around
them all the time. And I was 29.




I thought homosexuals only wanted little kids. 29 seems awful old for recruiting. Even the US Military isn't crazy about recruiting people that age.
I also suspect the people going to gay bars 50 years ago might be just a tad different from the ones going today.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 2:29:48 PM permalink
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So you are admitting there is something wrong with a guy staring at another guy's bulge? I agree!



Aren't you the one a dozen posts back who implied you'd rather have a guy cop patting down your ball sack area, as a woman can't do it?
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May 2nd, 2018 at 2:48:07 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Aren't you the one a dozen posts back who implied you'd rather have a guy cop patting down your ball sack area, as a woman can't do it?



I was once getting frisked by a female cop and my business was hanging
to the right she reached in my pocket grabbed the end of my junk
and gave it a couple of squeezes like a clown honking a horn
and said whats this? immediately there after she figured it out
and turned the color of a ripe tomato.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 2:57:10 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Aren't you the one a dozen posts back who implied you'd rather have a guy cop patting down your ball sack area, as a woman can't do it?

I think the friskee should have a choice of the frisker. I've thought of that in stores where every customer is suspected of shoplifting, what I would do if they wanted to search me?

I would probably point out the cutest one of the bunch, and tell them to be gentle with me. Male cops get to physical trying to find something, when there is so little there. I get the ? look when they are just checking the bag. Then they are sympathetically embarrassed and let me go.

It's really embarrassing when the urologist says, you ain't got much. Like duh, thanks man, glad to get your professional opinion.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:01:38 PM permalink
Trump nominated for Nobel peace prize: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-02/trump-formally-nominated-nobel-peace-prize
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:20:26 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

So you are admitting there is something wrong with a guy staring at another guy's bulge? I agree!

This is the kind of comment gays make all the time. They say "Gay is OK!" But when a straight man does not support them 100% they imply he is gay. But if there was nothing wrong they would not make such a comment.



i think you need to re-read my comment again. You're way off base as per usual.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:21:24 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Huh? Okay... So 10 years ago there were a lot less gay people you knew about because most were "in the closet" due to ridicule and shame homophobic people put on them making them not feel like real human beings.

Now, with "some" progress, though experiences and education, MOST PEOPLE have shown gays it's okay to be gay and more and more have come out of the closet. Thus, you might have only known 2 gay guys in HS, but really there were probably a dozen you didn't know about. Not only that but some people don't realize they're gay till later in life. Not only that but as you grow in age you also meet more and more people upping your sampling size, thus meeting more gay people along the way. By the time you're in your 30's you'll know plenty of gay, straight, black, white, etc, etc, etc, people because your sampling size and experience with other humans has gone up a lot. I'd put N0 at around age 40 now days due to better communication and social networking. Back in "the" day (like with AZDuffman) most people just got the biases of their parents then never got to N0 to get enough real life experience to realize their parents biases were wrong... and inhumane.

RS I'd love to hear your feedback to this post...


I mean those are the only 2 gay people that I've actually known. Actually, there was a gay guy at work, but didn't really talk to him or hang out or whatever. He loved all sorts of drama n sh**, and I'm just like....nah fam, not for me

I'm sure I've met plenty of gay people, but I wasn't referring to gay people whom I've met, but those whom I know/knew and that were out of the closet. Sure, I might know 50 gay people, but if they're still in the closet, they are effectively straight. A twist on Schrodinger's cat, as they say.


That makes sense about hanging out with a gay person and then you enter a rabbit trail and meet a bunch more. I don't really know any black people, either, but a few acquaintances I suppose (I know, I know, this is bad). Seems like black people tend to also hang out with other black people. So yeah, the whole compounding (not a gay joke) makes sense.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:22:58 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

And yes, gay men tend to prefer younger over older. But NEVER EVER in my 35 years of being the age of consent have I ever heard gay men talking about younger as in underage.



The Gay guys I knew didn't consider 16
underage. They talked every day about
cruising the Greyhound station looking
for runaways desperate for a friend.
Some of the wealthier men even had
sports cars for them to drive and spare
rooms for them to sleep in. It was a kind
of sport to them, like hunting. That's
how they talked about it.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:35:12 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

This is the kind of comment gays make all the time. They say "Gay is OK!" But when a straight man does not support them 100% they imply he is gay. But if there was nothing wrong they would not make such a comment.


More often than not, men who have a problem with gay people are suppressing their own sexuality.

There’s really no other rational explanation.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:38:02 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

More often than not, men who have a problem with gay people are suppressing their own sexuality.

There’s really no other rational explanation.



I totally agree
Some of the most anti-gay people out there are simply afraid to leave the closet
sad
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
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May 2nd, 2018 at 3:46:01 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Trump nominated for Nobel peace prize: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-02/trump-formally-nominated-nobel-peace-prize


Yawn
Doesn't take much to be nominated
for the 2018 prize there are 330 candidates out of which 216 are individuals and 114 are organizations.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 4:23:25 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

More often than not, men who have a problem with gay people are suppressing their own sexuality.

There’s really no other rational explanation.



There is a very rational explanation. An average man finds the idea of gay sex wretching and disgusting.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 4:42:43 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

There is a very rational explanation. An average man finds the idea of gay sex wretching and disgusting.



A man from the 1950's, maybe. Modern men
repress those feelings as much as possible.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 5:29:39 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I totally agree
Some of the most anti-gay people out there are simply afraid to leave the closet
sad



Some people also have a lack of empathy.

That manifests in several ways:
they might think that other people can only react to a situation the same way that they will.
They may be unable to put themselves into someone else's shoes, so to speak, to understand how someone in a different situation may feel.

Those sorts of things are beyond the narrow definition of just not caring what others think. It isn't just that, it is also an inability to feel, not just a lack of desire to.

In one of the more significant manifestations, it is called narcissistic personality disorder.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
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May 2nd, 2018 at 5:37:20 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Some of the most anti-gay people out there are simply afraid to leave the closet



I'm pretty sure we've got a couple of those here on these boards.

Alas, the forum rules prevent me from elaborating any further.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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May 2nd, 2018 at 5:56:14 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

Some people also have a lack of empathy.



Or selective empathy. Nobody is empathetic
to everyone at all times, it's not possible. We
are all selectively empathetic, we pick and we
choose. Some people I don't care to have
empathy for; cannibals and socialists, for
example. No interest in what makes them
tick.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 6:11:17 PM permalink
It does seem that many of the most anti-gay posters here are also quite anti-women as well. I'm not really sure what to make of that as many of them seem pretty angry at the whole world.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 6:19:50 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Or selective empathy. Nobody is empathetic
to everyone at all times, it's not possible. We
are all selectively empathetic, we pick and we
choose.

And some were faking it all along, they never really cared. Or if they did, it was only for a minute, or was PC.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 6:33:26 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

And some were faking it all along, they never really cared. Or if they did, it was only for a minute, or was PC.



I agree with you, no one really cares about Trump and his policies.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 7:06:59 PM permalink
LOLOLOLOLOL

Rudy Giuliani just told Hannity that Donald Trump reimbursed Michael Cohen the $130,000 he paid to Stormy Daniels to silence her.

If you've been following this story, you know that's a big deal.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 7:10:13 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: TomG

That has absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s campaign promises to make sure many people would be denied the opportunity to improve their lives by working hard and contributing to the community.



When did he promise this? I must have missed something.



His isolationism mirrors very closely communist/liberal regimes of the 20th century

Reagan: "Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall." And then he helped make sure it happened
Trump: "I will build a great wall and Mexico will pay for that wall." And then he doesn't do what he said he would because the job is too hard for him and instead whines about it on social media blaming everyone else, but never taking any personal responsibility. That is the most liberal thing any politician has ever done. And as RS so eloquently pointed out, it is a disease our president suffers from.

Quote: AZDuffman

But we are not cutting revenue. Learn about dynamic analysis. Taxes were cut in the 1980s and revenue shot up.



Sometimes cutting taxes can cause revenue to increase, sometimes raising taxes is needed for revenue to increase. The fact that Trump was so desperate to spend the money before it came in shows that Trump no only used liberal values to win the election, but also to run the country.

When he insisted we needed to raise taxes on imports, no one questioned that liberal policy change. Instead Trump and his supporters simply take the liberal position of bending their principles to fit whatever they want it to fit.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 7:23:29 PM permalink
Quote: Benjiex

I agree with you, no one really cares about Trump and his policies.

Maybe this is a false flag, and the real government is about to show up?
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May 2nd, 2018 at 7:25:57 PM permalink
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Yawn

Dang, I heard jokes about it a year ago, looks like we should have had a bet.

Your bet on the big meet looks thinner all the time : )
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May 2nd, 2018 at 8:01:20 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

His isolationism mirrors very closely communist/liberal regimes of the 20th century

Reagan: "Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall." And then he helped make sure it happened
Trump: "I will build a great wall and Mexico will pay for that wall." And then he doesn't do what he said he would because the job is too hard for him and instead whines about it on social media blaming everyone else, but never taking any personal responsibility...


What does saying he's going to build a wall and not doing so have anything to do with what you said?
Quote: TomG

That has absolutely nothing to do with Trump’s campaign promises to make sure many people would be denied the opportunity to improve their lives by working hard and contributing to the community.



Quote: TomG

...That is the most liberal thing any politician has ever done. And as RS so eloquently pointed out, it is a disease our president suffers from.


Ah yeah, so Trump is a liberal now. /sarcasm
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May 2nd, 2018 at 8:35:48 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Dang, I heard jokes about it a year ago, looks like we should have had a bet.

Your bet on the big meet looks thinner all the time : )



To be honest
Yes, I am getting a little concerned
There seems to be progress on a meet
I have a feeling as Mueller gets closer, Trump will push his people hard to set up a meet
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May 2nd, 2018 at 9:48:45 PM permalink
Quote: RS

What does saying he's going to build a wall and not doing so have anything to do with what you said?



Ah yeah, so Trump is a liberal now. /sarcasm



Trump was a liberal for many many years until he realized he could win as a republican. Same as Bloomberg. Lifelong contributors to liberal causes who stole a political party.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 9:54:09 PM permalink
Has anyone told Rudy G that he is working for trump, not against him?
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May 2nd, 2018 at 10:02:40 PM permalink
Listening to Giulani on Hannity, and he says
he told Trump, who he's known for 40 years,
that the proudest day of his life will be when
Trump wins the Nobel Prize and tells them
to shove it.

It hit me, OMG, of COURSE he has to tell
to shove the worthless thing where the
sun don't shine. Since they gave it to Obama
for doing less than NOTHING, it's turned
the 'peace' prize into meaningless garbage.
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May 2nd, 2018 at 10:09:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Listening to Giulani on Hannity, and he says
he told Trump, who he's known for 40 years,
that the proudest day of his life will be when
Trump wins the Nobel Prize and tells them
to shove it.

It hit me, OMG, of COURSE he has to tell
to shove the worthless thing where the
sun don't shine. Since they gave it to Obama
for doing less than NOTHING, it's turned
the 'peace' prize into meaningless garbage.


They won't let Trump take it into the federal prison he'll be going into anyway.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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May 3rd, 2018 at 3:36:26 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

It does seem that many of the most anti-gay posters here are also quite anti-women as well. I'm not really sure what to make of that as many of them seem pretty angry at the whole world.



You are confusing your terms. Most of us you call "anti-women" are not at all. We just will not lie down for women as the feminists demand that we do, For myself, we just have no desire for a relationship as we do not want the hassles that come along with it. Marriage is a huge risk for a man. There is a 1/3 chance that she will decide to file for divorce and clean you out. More and more men see this and how family court and laws are stacked against them. Better options out there these days.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 4:33:21 AM permalink
All of this homophobic rhetoric is sad. Plenty of insults have been traded worthy of bans. There are some pretty ignorant opinions coming from both sides that frankly is appalling to read.

People generally are sexual opportunists, gay or straight. Lines are drawn at the social constructs of the day. Today, rules are very different than they were 40 years ago. Trump could walk into a dressing room of teensgers back then without batting an eye as it was perfectly fine back then for women to be uncomfortable in such situations as they learned that money and power go hand-in-hand. Look at Cosby. Or Bill Clinton, or any man who had money or power back then. I'm not saying that today''s rules are right. it is an evolution generally in the right direction.

What Bob saw 40 years or so ago has gone online. Hookups happen now i privacy via tinder or Grindr or whatever the app of the day is. Underage sex still happens and there are portions of the populatinn who seek out the undersged and ignore the social and legal ramifications. The frequency of this sexual predation is likely very much reduced due to sexual education and parental oversight.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 4:46:24 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo



What Bob saw 40 years or so ago has gone online. Hookups happen now i privacy via tinder or Grindr or whatever the app of the day is. Underage sex still happens and there are portions of the populatinn who seek out the undersged and ignore the social and legal ramifications. The frequency of this sexual predation is likely very much reduced due to sexual education and parental oversight.



40-50 years ago, young men (teenagers) were warned about homosexual males and that they tried to turn out teen boys. You can find the PSAs on YT, which videos I have been told cannot be handled by a few snowflakes on here so you will need to look if you want to see. Today the government's official position seems to be "Gay is OK, go experiment!"

This is not a good thing. I am more inclined to believe what EB says he heard as true than the indoctrination being put out today.

That people not down with it all are called by the slur "homophobic" really says all you need to know about it.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 5:09:33 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

LOLOLOLOLOL

Rudy Giuliani just told Hannity that Donald Trump reimbursed Michael Cohen the $130,000 he paid to Stormy Daniels to silence her.

If you've been following this story, you know that's a big deal.



Yes, a big deal. Giuliani clearly stated that Trump used personal, not campaign, funds to pay Cohen. Good for Trump in that it is testimony from an officer of the court, that no campaign funds were used. Bad for Trump in that it seems pretty clear that Cohen was acting as his attorney. As I have said from the beginning, this will end when 2020 comes and a Dem is elected, but the continuous waste of time and money investigating the philanderous man's cover up of his philandering will keep the Dems busy. Kind of like the WJC impeachment.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 5:20:22 AM permalink
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Yes, a big deal. Giuliani clearly stated that Trump used personal, not campaign, funds to pay Cohen. Good for Trump in that it is testimony from an officer of the court, that no campaign funds were used.



So they had this explanation the whole time, and only just yesterday revealed it?

Hmm, pretty fishy, as in el stinko.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 5:32:22 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

So they had this explanation the whole time, and only just yesterday revealed it?

Hmm, pretty fishy, as in el stinko.



Apparently Baron is getting bullied over this. I'm being serious here..... how does Melania answer the question.... "Why did daddy pay $130k to the porn star?"
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May 3rd, 2018 at 5:32:54 AM permalink
Hopefully Michael Cohen didn't repeat his lie to the feds that Donald knew nothing about the payment!

Actually, hopefully he did... lock him up!
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:04:12 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Today the government's official position seems to be "Gay is OK, go experiment!"


Its called freedom
Govt needs to stay out of our lives
Don't like freedom, move to North Korea
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:21:16 AM permalink
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/02/news/economy/paul-krugman-tax-cut-apple-buybacks/index.html

So an economist is saying the tax cuts was a nothing burger, because companies aren't increasing investments. They are giving to shareholders.

Is it too soon for an "I told you so?"
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:48:10 AM permalink
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http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/02/news/economy/paul-krugman-tax-cut-apple-buybacks/index.html

So an economist is saying the tax cuts was a nothing burger, because companies aren't increasing investments. They are giving to shareholders.

Is it too soon for an "I told you so?"



A liberal biased POS economist who hates Trump more than people on here.

And once again, average Americans should have 401k’s, IRA’s and pensions and would be benefiting again. That is the bigger issue, today’s Me Too, I need that, lack of financial responsibility keeps savings from happening at the levels they should.

A 2nd job Part Time, even just for savings never hurt anyone.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:53:23 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/02/news/economy/paul-krugman-tax-cut-apple-buybacks/index.html

So an economist is saying the tax cuts was a nothing burger, because companies aren't increasing investments. They are giving to shareholders.

Is it too soon for an "I told you so?"



Giving to shareholders is bad? Isn't that what businesses are supposed to do in a capitalist society? Make money by selling a product and distribute the money to the owners, who for publicly traded companies are called 'shareholders'? Oh wait, I got it wrong.... the businesses are in business to pay taxes....
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:54:55 AM permalink
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Before 5th grade, I don't want you teaching sex education to kids at all. That is the parents job, or do you believe parents shouldn't be allowed to pass on their values to their children?

All teachers in grade school should try to dissuade kids that young from practicing sex. Sounds like you are promoting sodomy.

PERSONALLY... it depends on the beliefs. Easy polarizing example: If a parent wants to teach their son at a very young age to be a rapist, then no, that parent shouldn't be able to pass those values to their kid. More realistic example: If you have a daddy that is a sexist and treats his wife like that in front of the children, then the children are far more likely to turn out sexist as well (replace sexist with racist and it's all the same btw).

First, I wasn't talking about sex education, I was talking about sexism and treating other human beings as equals, which is what this conversation has been about the entire time... and should be able to be taught to any child, at any age.

Second, to my point, if you wait to start teaching acceptance of females/gays/etc/etc until later in a childs life, it's about nearly impossible to undue any racist/sexist brainwashing their parents have passed along to them through their home environment. See the posts in this thread, that are just completely nuts and hold zero factual reference from 'scare' tactics from the days of old, like "all gays are pedophiles" which is just an absolutely retarded thing to say.

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You are confusing your terms. Most of us you call "anti-women" are not at all. We just will not lie down for women as the feminists demand that we do, For myself, we just have no desire for a relationship as we do not want the hassles that come along with it. Marriage is a huge risk for a man. There is a 1/3 chance that she will decide to file for divorce and clean you out. More and more men see this and how family court and laws are stacked against them. Better options out there these days.

Right... you don't want a relationship and that's why you don't have one. lol also it's called a prenup. Even if I'm "in love" I'll absolutely have one drawn up and signed. It's just business at that point. Told that to every girl I've dated in the past 7 years.

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A liberal biased POS economist who hates Trump more than people on here...

Hmm okay, what about the room full of execs, owners, and CEO's that were all asked "If you saw a huge tax break would you hire more people?" and NONE of them raised their hands? Guess ALLLLLLLL of those big companies were just trump haters too, right?
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:56:19 AM permalink
But the tax cut was sold by the GOP as something that would benefit the middle class, not as something that would spur stock buybacks.

That's the point. We all knew it was a scam and the middle class wouldn't get jack squat compared to corporations and the super rich. But the GOP just jammed it through and now they are forced to defend an unpopular bill.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:56:58 AM permalink
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Right... you don't want a relationship and that's why you don't have one.



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May 3rd, 2018 at 7:58:11 AM permalink
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...But the GOP just jammed it through and now they are forced to defend an unpopular bill.

While they count their money... They don't give a crap about us, corporations, the middle class, whatever... it's all about money, and that's it. #TodaysRepublican
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May 3rd, 2018 at 8:01:31 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

But the tax cut was sold by the GOP as something that would benefit the middle class, not as something that would spur stock buybacks.

That's the point. We all knew it was a scam and the middle class wouldn't get jack squat compared to corporations and the super rich. But the GOP just jammed it through and now they are forced to defend an unpopular bill.



From your posts and stories I will jump to the conclusion that you are 'middle class' economically. Are you telling me that you do not have stock ownership that the Trump tax plan hasn't helped? All I hear from the middle class RNs and surg techs is how well their 401ks are doing. You are aware that those are often filled with stocks, right?
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May 3rd, 2018 at 8:07:51 AM permalink
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"You can't fire me, I quit!"

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May 3rd, 2018 at 8:17:04 AM permalink
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From your posts and stories I will jump to the conclusion that you are 'middle class' economically. Are you telling me that you do not have stock ownership that the Trump tax plan hasn't helped?



My 401K's rate of return for 2018 is -0.86%
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May 3rd, 2018 at 8:20:46 AM permalink
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Giving to shareholders is bad? Isn't that what businesses are supposed to do in a capitalist society? Make money by selling a product and distribute the money to the owners, who for publicly traded companies are called 'shareholders'? Oh wait, I got it wrong.... the businesses are in business to pay taxes....



The tax cut was sold as helping all Americans, and creating jobs, and better paying jobs at that. It's not happening. Have I personally benefited? Yes I have, because I have substantial investments. But, how it worked out for me was not the point of my post. Republicans lied.
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May 3rd, 2018 at 8:32:11 AM permalink
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... Republicans lied.

*News at 5*

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May 3rd, 2018 at 8:51:42 AM permalink
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Its called freedom
Govt needs to stay out of our lives
Don't like freedom, move to North Korea


Whoa terapined,
You sound like a conservative.
Liberal leftists want the government to control everything in our lives. Anti-freedom.
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