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June 30th, 2019 at 11:33:30 AM permalink
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The cartoonist who made this got fired from his job at the newspaper he worked for because of it.

I’d say he’s a hero. The truth stings.



So did this one, same day I think.



Guess it's going to make newspapers obsolete, if they try to suppress what's freely available elsewhere. We subscribe to several, just to support the medium. But if they're going to give in, they may have forfeited our collective patronage.

Again, NVM that's it's about Trump. Are you telling me you don't find that disrespectful and inappropriate at all? You don't find it very insensitive to all the Immigrants and their family's that you love so much that have lost loved ones while trying to cross the border?



No, it's not about Trump. And I don't "love the immigrants so much". It's cutting commentary that's directly on-point about the consequences of bad and illegal policies being inflicted on immigrants. IOW, it's political cartooning at its best. And protected speech.

Chances are, the fired cartoonists have no legal recourse - the newspaper has the right to publish what and whom they want. But whenever expressing an opinion contrary to the government position is quashed, it needs to be noted.

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June 30th, 2019 at 12:11:01 PM permalink
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June 30th, 2019 at 12:23:32 PM permalink
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The cartoonist who made this got fired from his job at the newspaper he worked for because of it.

I’d say he’s a hero. The truth stings.



So did this one, same day I think.



Guess it's going to make newspapers obsolete, if they try to suppress what's freely available elsewhere. We subscribe to several, just to support the medium. But if they're going to give in, they may have forfeited our collective patronage.

Again, NVM that's it's about Trump. Are you telling me you don't find that disrespectful and inappropriate at all? You don't find it very insensitive to all the Immigrants and their family's that you love so much that have lost loved ones while trying to cross the border?



And I don't "love the immigrants so much". It's cutting commentary that's directly on-point

So then you hate immigrants.
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June 30th, 2019 at 4:43:46 PM permalink
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RE: First Amendment:

Major omission of real facts like the special protections the federal government extends to Google, Facebook and Twitter et. despite their status as monopolies.
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June 30th, 2019 at 5:02:07 PM permalink
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RE: First Amendment:

Major omission of real facts like the special protections the federal government extends to Google, Facebook and Twitter et. despite their status as monopolies.



You really cant tell the difference between the government and private companies?
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June 30th, 2019 at 5:09:15 PM permalink
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The cartoonist who made this got fired from his job at the newspaper he worked for because of it.

I’d say he’s a hero. The truth stings.



So did this one, same day I think.



Guess it's going to make newspapers obsolete, if they try to suppress what's freely available elsewhere. We subscribe to several, just to support the medium. But if they're going to give in, they may have forfeited our collective patronage.

Again, NVM that's it's about Trump. Are you telling me you don't find that disrespectful and inappropriate at all? You don't find it very insensitive to all the Immigrants and their family's that you love so much that have lost loved ones while trying to cross the border?



And I don't "love the immigrants so much". It's cutting commentary that's directly on-point

So then you hate immigrants.



The world is not just black and white, unless you're trolling someone.

There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy.

There's clearly a place for immigrants, students on visas, skilled workers on green cards.

There's clearly a need and a usefulness to a path to citizenship that benefits the US at LEAST as much as it benefits the immigrants.

There's clearly a need to stop human trafficking, illegal drugs, and criminals from coming into this country.

The issue, as Trump has positioned it, has been polluted into racist repelling of particular groups based ONLY on their country of origin, religion, or skin color.

It's repugnant and unAmerican at the most basic level, not to mention illegal and Unconstitutional in many cases. It's also divisive and harmful to our resident population.

That gets twisted into "liberals want open borders" and such. NO, they don't. They want the Rule of Law to govern who is admitted, how quickly, and asylum claims to be considered in a timely way. Liberals want over stayed visas to be enforced, enough agents on legal points of entry to process people quickly, enough agents available to patrol and stop illegal crossings, and smart borders that do a better job of detecting breaches and issues than a dumb wall.

But they also want this country to continue to grow and flourish with healthy amounts of immigrants. Unless any of us is NA, (Face, for one), we are ALL immigrants. And America is built on it. THAT'S the reality. The rest is hypocrisy.
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June 30th, 2019 at 5:17:45 PM permalink
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That gets twisted into "liberals want open borders" and such. NO, they don't. They want the Rule of Law to govern who is admitted, how quickly, and asylum claims to be considered in a timely way. Liberals want over stayed visas to be enforced, enough agents on legal points of entry to process people quickly, enough agents available to patrol and stop illegal crossings, and smart borders that do a better job of detecting breaches and issues than a dumb wall.

Be sure to let Pelosi and Durbin know that.
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June 30th, 2019 at 5:21:00 PM permalink
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RE: First Amendment:

Major omission of real facts like the special protections the federal government extends to Google, Facebook and Twitter et. despite their status as monopolies.



FB, Twitter, Google. All private companies.

They have as much right, as content providers, to decide what content they want to carry as the baker who won't make a gay wedding cake or the pharmacists who won't sell contraceptives or the morning-after pill. Or the Mexican restaurant that won't put pickled herring or borscht on their menu. Or a million other examples.

Those media companies have decided they don't want to transmit and effectuate hate speech, fake news, other stuff, including even the most innocent picture that includes female breasts. You don't like it, you're free to start your own social media company and set your own standards. Go to it - it's a free country.
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June 30th, 2019 at 9:07:07 PM permalink
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Hard to believe anyone could see this as a good decision with all of CA’s other problems.
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lives in Calif and reports on conditions
there. It's turning into a 3rd world country
in some places. Homeless everywhere,
begging, spreading disease. Crime is
off the charts, defecating on sidewalks,
the cops don't even bother public urinators
anymore. He says the middle class is
leaving in droves, being replaced by
homeless illegals and misfits from other
states who want the welfare benefits.

I left Calif in 1983 because it was starting
even then. People there now call the 80's
the 'good old days'. That's just frightening.
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June 30th, 2019 at 10:33:19 PM permalink
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I find it amusing that lefties who say they support free speech are silent when entities such as google, facebook, twitter and youtube censor conservative speech.




This is a laughable argument.

Why should private companies not have the right to decide what content they allow on their platforms? There’s nothing stopping anyone from starting up a social media network that only allows conservative views. Or a YouTube-like site that only allows conservative videos to be posted. Nothing at all stopping anyone who hates liberals from starting up any internet site they like and excluding that content. In fact I’m sure there are many that do.
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July 1st, 2019 at 12:18:54 AM permalink
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I sub to a YT channel by somebody who
lives in Calif and reports on conditions
there. It's turning into a 3rd world country
in some places. Homeless everywhere,
begging, spreading disease. Crime is
off the charts, defecating on sidewalks,
the cops don't even bother public urinators
anymore. He says the middle class is
leaving in droves, being replaced by
homeless illegals and misfits from other
states who want the welfare benefits.

I left Calif in 1983 because it was starting
even then. People there now call the 80's
the 'good old days'. That's just frightening.



You live in the state with the scariest urban blight in America, the place of failed dreams and squandered power, and you're calling out California. Funny.

Did you know, in 1950, 75% of all automobiles in the world were manufactured in America, with the vast majority out of Detroit? In 2009, it was down to 8%, when we hit bottom, and is still only back around 12-13%.
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July 1st, 2019 at 4:31:02 AM permalink
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Why should private companies not have the right to decide what content they allow on their platforms?



Laughable argument?

The FANG’s are monopolies. They collect information on everyone and they control what ever information makes it to the public.

If it does not suit their agenda, or the agenda of their favorite Party, they bury it, as Google does. Or they change the truth as Netflix does.

We have laws that are supposed to prevent monopolies, but the politicians on both sides no longer enforce them because these companies fund re-election campaigns, and can use their monopolies on information to destroy their political careers, and control public opinion.

It would cost billions to create something like any one of the FANG’s, and that still would not be enough to compete with them. They’ve collected so much data on the public, ranging from purchasing habits to search preferences, and who knows what else, that no other data source is necessary for corporations or governments.

They keep a permanent record of every website you ever visited and every single thing you ever searched for online in your life. Imagine what will happen when they get hacked.

They’re in bed with the government too. The CIA developed EarthViewer at taxpayer expense for $200 million, then 'sold' it to Google for an undisclosed sum, who renamed it ‘Google Earth’.

Do you think the government will let anyone seriously compete with them?

How the CIA made Google

They trace your every move with their phone and auto GPS. They know what parks and museums you visit. They know what restaurants you go to. They even send you a text asking how you liked the park or the restaurant you just visited.

If you wear a Fitbit they know many steps you climbed, how far you walked, your heart rate, and even the quality of your sleep.

If that sounds benign, realize this is your personal information stored forever by a corporation that is selling it.

It could someday be used against you.

If you have a ‘smart’ thermostat, they know how warm or cool you keep your home. In the future, the government will require everyone to install ‘smart’ thermostats and use that technology to set our thermostats for us.

Facebook tracks you even when you are not a subscriber.

Amazon workers listen in on Alexa Conversations, even when not intentionally activated.
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July 1st, 2019 at 4:49:04 AM permalink
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Laughable argument?

The FANG’s are monopolies. They collect information on everyone and they control what ever information makes it to the public.

If it does not suit their agenda, or the agenda of their favorite Party, they bury it, as Google does. Or they change the truth as Netflix does.

We have laws that are supposed to prevent monopolies, but the politicians on both sides no longer enforce them because these companies fund re-election campaigns, and can use their monopolies on information to destroy their political careers, and control public opinion.

It would cost billions to create something like any one of the FANG’s, and that still would not be enough to compete with them. They’ve collected so much data on the public, ranging from purchasing habits to search preferences, and who knows what else, that no other data source is necessary for corporations or governments.

They keep a permanent record of every website you ever visited and every single thing you ever searched for online in your life. Imagine what will happen when they get hacked.

They’re in bed with the government too. The CIA developed EarthViewer at taxpayer expense for $200 million, then 'sold' it to Google for an undisclosed sum, who renamed it ‘Google Earth’.

Do you think the government will let anyone seriously compete with them?

How the CIA made Google

They trace your every move with their phone and auto GPS. They know what parks and museums you visit. They know what restaurants you go to. They even send you a text asking how you liked the park or the restaurant you just visited.

If you wear a Fitbit they know many steps you climbed, how far you walked, your heart rate, and even the quality of your sleep.

If that sounds benign, realize this is your personal information stored forever by a corporation that is selling it.

It could someday be used against you.

If you have a ‘smart’ thermostat, they know how warm or cool you keep your home. In the future, the government will require everyone to install ‘smart’ thermostats and use that technology to set our thermostats for us.

Facebook tracks you even when you are not a subscriber.

Amazon workers listen in on Alexa Conversations, even when not intentionally activated.



Well, it sounds like you're screwed. I would just give up already

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July 1st, 2019 at 4:54:59 AM permalink
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Laughable argument?

The FANG’s are monopolies. They collect information on everyone and they control what ever information makes it to the public.

If it does not suit their agenda, or the agenda of their favorite Party, they bury it, as Google does. Or they change the truth as Netflix does.

We have laws that are supposed to prevent monopolies, but the politicians on both sides no longer enforce them because these companies fund re-election campaigns, and can use their monopolies on information to destroy their political careers, and control public opinion.

It would cost billions to create something like any one of the FANG’s, and that still would not be enough to compete with them. They’ve collected so much data on the public, ranging from purchasing habits to search preferences, and who knows what else, that no other data source is necessary for corporations or governments.

They keep a permanent record of every website you ever visited and every single thing you ever searched for online in your life. Imagine what will happen when they get hacked.

They’re in bed with the government too. The CIA developed EarthViewer at taxpayer expense for $200 million, then 'sold' it to Google for an undisclosed sum, who renamed it ‘Google Earth’.

Do you think the government will let anyone seriously compete with them?

How the CIA made Google

They trace your every move with their phone and auto GPS. They know what parks and museums you visit. They know what restaurants you go to. They even send you a text asking how you liked the park or the restaurant you just visited.

If you wear a Fitbit they know many steps you climbed, how far you walked, your heart rate, and even the quality of your sleep.

If that sounds benign, realize this is your personal information stored forever by a corporation that is selling it.

It could someday be used against you.

If you have a ‘smart’ thermostat, they know how warm or cool you keep your home. In the future, the government will require everyone to install ‘smart’ thermostats and use that technology to set our thermostats for us.

Facebook tracks you even when you are not a subscriber.

Amazon workers listen in on Alexa Conversations, even when not intentionally activated.



Sounds like you should be supporting Elizabeth Warren and her plan to break up the big tech companies!
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July 1st, 2019 at 8:02:58 AM permalink
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RE: First Amendment:



Thanks. Says it all
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 1st, 2019 at 9:02:09 AM permalink
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Thanks. Says it all

Another opponent of the First Amendment. At least he is not labeling half the country nazis and white supremacists.
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July 1st, 2019 at 9:09:02 AM permalink
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RE: First Amendment:



Thanks. Says it all

Another opponent of the First Amendment. At least he is not labeling half the country nazis and white supremacists.


??????
I support the 1st amendment
I also support the rights of web site owners.
Don't like a web site, create your own
No web site on the internet is a monopoly.
Don't like facebook, create your own social internet site
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 1st, 2019 at 9:11:20 AM permalink
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Another opponent of the First Amendment. At least he is not labeling half the country nazis and white supremacists.



“Half the country.”

That’s funny.
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July 1st, 2019 at 9:35:51 AM permalink
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RE: First Amendment:



Thanks. Says it all

Another opponent of the First Amendment. At least he is not labeling half the country nazis and white supremacists.


??????
I support the 1st amendment
I also support the rights of web site owners.
Don't like a web site, create your own
No web site on the internet is a monopoly.
Don't like facebook, create your own social internet site

We notice that omission of the all-important factor of federal government protection for those unshackled monopolies.
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July 1st, 2019 at 9:36:28 AM permalink
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“Half the country.”

That’s funny.

Keep laughing. That is your label.
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July 1st, 2019 at 9:50:40 AM permalink
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Quote: SanchoPanza

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Quote: ams288

RE: First Amendment:



Thanks. Says it all

Another opponent of the First Amendment. At least he is not labeling half the country nazis and white supremacists.


??????
I support the 1st amendment
I also support the rights of web site owners.
Don't like a web site, create your own
No web site on the internet is a monopoly.
Don't like facebook, create your own social internet site

We notice that omission of the all-important factor of federal government protection for those unshackled monopolies.


???????
Trump govt is not protecting any web site from competition
What internet site has a monopoly?
The greatest thing about the internet is competition
Anybody can create a web site.
Anybody can compete against FB or Twitter
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:12:03 AM permalink
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Trump govt is not protecting any web site from competition
What internet site has a monopoly?
The greatest thing about the internet is competition
Anybody can create a web site.
Anybody can compete against FB or Twitter

It might be civil to not alter statements by changing what other people say. No one ever said Trump is protecting the monopolists. Trump most certainly does not equal the entire federal government, despite whatever misimpressions quite a few people have. Especially those people who do not have a clue that a certain Web site reports that it controls 90 percent of Web searches. Google now processes over 40,000 search queries every second on average, which translates to over 3.5 billion searches per day and 1.2 trillion searches per year worldwide
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:20:57 AM permalink
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It might be civil to not alter statements by changing what other people say. No one ever said Trump is protecting the monopolists. Trump most certainly does not equal the entire federal government, despite whatever misimpressions quite a few people have. Especially those people who do not have a clue that a certain Web site reports that it controls 90 percent of Web searches. Google now processes over 40,000 search queries every second on average, which translates to over 3.5 billion searches per day and 1.2 trillion searches per year worldwide



What's your proposed solution to your perceived problem? You want government to step in? You probably are voting against your interests if so. But you just spent a couple days pushing a false story about Kamala Harris. It seems you have no problem finding the "information" you're looking for.

There have been a lot search engines over the past 20 years. Lycos, MSN, Yahoo, AskJeeves, Bing, Teoma, and more I'm not thinking of. The ones who have won this competition are the ones that have done it the best. Confused how a conservative free market capitalist would have a problem with this.

Oh because they banned Alex Jones? The guy that said Sandy Hook didn't happen? The guy that accused Israel of helping plan 9/11? The guy that Donald Trump said had an "amazing" reputation? Oh I get it now.
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:22:53 AM permalink
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“Half the country.”

That’s funny.



He's referring to the real mericans.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:26:24 AM permalink
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What's your proposed solution to your perceived problem? You want government to step in? You probably are voting against your interests if so. But you just spent a couple days pushing a false story about Kamala Harris. It seems you have no problem finding the "information" you're looking for.

There have been a lot search engines over the past 20 years. Lycos, MSN, Yahoo, AskJeeves, Bing, Teoma, and more I'm not thinking of. The ones who have won this competition are the ones that have done it the best. Confused how a conservative free market capitalist would have a problem with this.

Oh because they banned Alex Jones? Oh I get it now.



Federal government should step in and subsidize the poor websites that can't compete with the big guys. What's good for the soybean farms should be good for the troll farms, as well.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:44:13 AM permalink
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It might be civil to not alter statements by changing what other people say. No one ever said Trump is protecting the monopolists. Trump most certainly does not equal the entire federal government, despite whatever misimpressions quite a few people have. Especially those people who do not have a clue that a certain Web site reports that it controls 90 percent of Web searches. Google now processes over 40,000 search queries every second on average, which translates to over 3.5 billion searches per day and 1.2 trillion searches per year worldwide



Yawn
Don't use google
How would my life change If I couldn't use google
It wouldn't change at all
I still golf, ride my bike and Kayak without google
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:47:39 AM permalink
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..... I would just give up already


You could end up homeless with that attitude.

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Hang in there.
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July 1st, 2019 at 10:53:03 AM permalink
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He's referring to the real mericans.



I don’t think he knows what he’s referring to. He’s just misrepresenting someone else’s words, as usual.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:16:19 AM permalink
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Yawn
Don't use google
How would my life change If I couldn't use google
It wouldn't change at all
I still golf, ride my bike and Kayak without google

Conceding no knowledge of how Google operates and how it earns such humongous profits to become one of the largest companies in the U.S., if not the world. As the current commercial goes, if you don;'t know who the pigeon at the table is, it's you. Google sells its users' data.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:19:59 AM permalink
Court rulings look at more than Market share.

Quote:

Then courts ask if that leading position was gained or maintained through improper conduct—that is, something other than merely having a better product, superior management or historic accident. Here courts evaluate the anticompetitive effects of the conduct and its procompetitive justifications.

There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:22:34 AM permalink
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I don’t think he knows what he’s referring to. He’s just misrepresenting someone else’s words, as usual.

At least I have some idea of what I've posted in the last few days. Especially a comment that was criticized.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:25:44 AM permalink
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At least I have some idea of what I've posted in the last few days. Especially a comment that was criticized.



I know exactly the comment you’re referring to, it’s just that you clearly didn’t understand it.
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The cartoonist who made this got fired from his job at the newspaper he worked for because of it.

I’d say he’s a hero. The truth stings.



So did this one, same day I think.



Guess it's going to make newspapers obsolete, if they try to suppress what's freely available elsewhere. We subscribe to several, just to support the medium. But if they're going to give in, they may have forfeited our collective patronage.

Again, NVM that's it's about Trump. Are you telling me you don't find that disrespectful and inappropriate at all? You don't find it very insensitive to all the Immigrants and their family's that you love so much that have lost loved ones while trying to cross the border?



And I don't "love the immigrants so much". It's cutting commentary that's directly on-point

So then you hate immigrants.



The world is not just black and white, unless you're trolling someone.

There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy.

There's clearly a place for immigrants, students on visas, skilled workers on green cards.

There's clearly a need and a usefulness to a path to citizenship that benefits the US at LEAST as much as it benefits the immigrants.

There's clearly a need to stop human trafficking, illegal drugs, and criminals from coming into this country.

The issue, as Trump has positioned it, has been polluted into racist repelling of particular groups based ONLY on their country of origin, religion, or skin color.

It's repugnant and unAmerican at the most basic level, not to mention illegal and Unconstitutional in many cases. It's also divisive and harmful to our resident population.

That gets twisted into "liberals want open borders" and such. NO, they don't. They want the Rule of Law to govern who is admitted, how quickly, and asylum claims to be considered in a timely way. Liberals want over stayed visas to be enforced, enough agents on legal points of entry to process people quickly, enough agents available to patrol and stop illegal crossings, and smart borders that do a better job of detecting breaches and issues than a dumb wall.

But they also want this country to continue to grow and flourish with healthy amounts of immigrants. Unless any of us is NA, (Face, for one), we are ALL immigrants. And America is built on it. THAT'S the reality. The rest is hypocrisy.

Are you suggesting I'm Trolling? That's not very nice of you. Don't make me tag you with WMOAT, OD will be very upset.

So you hate immigrants, but you just hate Trump more. If it was Hillary or somome else was doing things the same way you would be all for it. It's okay, I get it.


I think we are well past our healthy limit of Mexican immigrants.

"There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy." When you need them to fix something at your house? I agree with you.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:39:50 AM permalink
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The cartoonist who made this got fired from his job at the newspaper he worked for because of it.

I’d say he’s a hero. The truth stings.



So did this one, same day I think.



Guess it's going to make newspapers obsolete, if they try to suppress what's freely available elsewhere. We subscribe to several, just to support the medium. But if they're going to give in, they may have forfeited our collective patronage.

Again, NVM that's it's about Trump. Are you telling me you don't find that disrespectful and inappropriate at all? You don't find it very insensitive to all the Immigrants and their family's that you love so much that have lost loved ones while trying to cross the border?



And I don't "love the immigrants so much". It's cutting commentary that's directly on-point

So then you hate immigrants.



The world is not just black and white, unless you're trolling someone.

There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy.

There's clearly a place for immigrants, students on visas, skilled workers on green cards.

There's clearly a need and a usefulness to a path to citizenship that benefits the US at LEAST as much as it benefits the immigrants.

There's clearly a need to stop human trafficking, illegal drugs, and criminals from coming into this country.

The issue, as Trump has positioned it, has been polluted into racist repelling of particular groups based ONLY on their country of origin, religion, or skin color.

It's repugnant and unAmerican at the most basic level, not to mention illegal and Unconstitutional in many cases. It's also divisive and harmful to our resident population.

That gets twisted into "liberals want open borders" and such. NO, they don't. They want the Rule of Law to govern who is admitted, how quickly, and asylum claims to be considered in a timely way. Liberals want over stayed visas to be enforced, enough agents on legal points of entry to process people quickly, enough agents available to patrol and stop illegal crossings, and smart borders that do a better job of detecting breaches and issues than a dumb wall.

But they also want this country to continue to grow and flourish with healthy amounts of immigrants. Unless any of us is NA, (Face, for one), we are ALL immigrants. And America is built on it. THAT'S the reality. The rest is hypocrisy.

Are you suggesting I'm Trolling? That's not very nice of you. Don't make me tag you with WMOAT, OD will be very upset.

So you hate immigrants, but you just hate Trump more. If it was Hillary or somome else was doing things the same way you would be all for it. It's okay, I get it.


I think we are well past our healthy limit of Mexican immigrants.

"There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy." When you need them to fix something at your house? I agree with you.



Stop. Putting. Words. In. My. Mouth.

I'd be proud to wear the WMOAT crown if it's awarded for calling out your trolling. Send it over.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:40:28 AM permalink
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Conceding no knowledge of how Google operates and how it earns such humongous profits to become one of the largest companies in the U.S., if not the world. As the current commercial goes, if you don;'t know who the pigeon at the table is, it's you. Google sells its users' data.



Yawn
Don't use google
I don't need it
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 1st, 2019 at 11:45:28 AM permalink
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Are you suggesting I'm Trolling?



pretty obvious


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I think we are well past our healthy limit of Mexican immigrants.



Nope
Keep em coming
I love working with Hispanics. Sharp people on the computer. work hard. Cant ask for more. My Hispanic co-workers are always impressing me
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July 1st, 2019 at 12:50:42 PM permalink
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I love working with Hispanics. Sharp people on the computer. work hard. Cant ask for more. My Hispanic co-workers are always impressing me

Let us know if you really have the gumption behind the words. We can put you in contact with even harder workers than your beloved Mexicans. We're talking about El Salvador, specifically the Department of Santa Ana, the home of amazaing maquilladoras.
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Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: AxelWolf

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The cartoonist who made this got fired from his job at the newspaper he worked for because of it.

I’d say he’s a hero. The truth stings.



So did this one, same day I think.



Guess it's going to make newspapers obsolete, if they try to suppress what's freely available elsewhere. We subscribe to several, just to support the medium. But if they're going to give in, they may have forfeited our collective patronage.

Again, NVM that's it's about Trump. Are you telling me you don't find that disrespectful and inappropriate at all? You don't find it very insensitive to all the Immigrants and their family's that you love so much that have lost loved ones while trying to cross the border?



And I don't "love the immigrants so much". It's cutting commentary that's directly on-point

So then you hate immigrants.



The world is not just black and white, unless you're trolling someone.

There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy.

There's clearly a place for immigrants, students on visas, skilled workers on green cards.

There's clearly a need and a usefulness to a path to citizenship that benefits the US at LEAST as much as it benefits the immigrants.

There's clearly a need to stop human trafficking, illegal drugs, and criminals from coming into this country.

The issue, as Trump has positioned it, has been polluted into racist repelling of particular groups based ONLY on their country of origin, religion, or skin color.

It's repugnant and unAmerican at the most basic level, not to mention illegal and Unconstitutional in many cases. It's also divisive and harmful to our resident population.

That gets twisted into "liberals want open borders" and such. NO, they don't. They want the Rule of Law to govern who is admitted, how quickly, and asylum claims to be considered in a timely way. Liberals want over stayed visas to be enforced, enough agents on legal points of entry to process people quickly, enough agents available to patrol and stop illegal crossings, and smart borders that do a better job of detecting breaches and issues than a dumb wall.

But they also want this country to continue to grow and flourish with healthy amounts of immigrants. Unless any of us is NA, (Face, for one), we are ALL immigrants. And America is built on it. THAT'S the reality. The rest is hypocrisy.

Are you suggesting I'm Trolling? That's not very nice of you. Don't make me tag you with WMOAT, OD will be very upset.

So you hate immigrants, but you just hate Trump more. If it was Hillary or somome else was doing things the same way you would be all for it. It's okay, I get it.


I think we are well past our healthy limit of Mexican immigrants.

"There's clearly a place for migrant workers in our economy." When you need them to fix something at your house? I agree with you.



Stop. Putting. Words. In. My. Mouth.

I'd be proud to wear the WMOAT crown if it's awarded for calling out your trolling. Send it over.



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July 1st, 2019 at 1:48:47 PM permalink
Reminds me of Usenet, with a mile of quotes within quotes on threads -- usually one long flame fest.
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July 1st, 2019 at 1:52:18 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Let us know if you really have the gumption behind the words. We can put you in contact with even harder workers than your beloved Mexicans. We're talking about El Salvador, specifically the Department of Santa Ana, the home of amazaing maquilladoras.



Have several co-workers from central America. Great on the computer, keep em coming
If you have ability, who cares where somebody came from
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July 1st, 2019 at 2:41:01 PM permalink
Don't like Google, don't like Facebook? Seriously, start your own.
The government didn't stop them, the government won't stop you.

If you can't come up with as a big an audience as them, that is more about you and your views, than any kind of government suppression.
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July 1st, 2019 at 4:42:25 PM permalink
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There have been a lot search engines over the past 20 years. Lycos, MSN, Yahoo, AskJeeves, Bing, Teoma, and more I'm not thinking of. The ones who have won this competition are the ones that have done it the best. Confused how a conservative free market capitalist would have a problem with this.



One solution is to pass laws prohibiting them from doing the things described in the Project Veritas video.

Those companies combined, don’t add up to a fraction of Google’s size and influence. You don’t seem to have a problem with their attempts to control you. It does not bother you that Google tried removing that damaging Project Veritas video from YouTube, because they don’t want you or anyone else to see it.

Here it is again:




“They can pressure us, but we’re not changing.” - Jen Gennai

On Senator Warren: “She’s also saying you’ve just got to break up Google. ....but she’s very misguided. It will not make it better. It will make it worse, because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do, will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation. It’s not like a small company can do that.” - Jen Gennai, Head of Responsible innovation

They see themselves as the elite, self appointed masters the universe who must control the poor dumb slobs of the world for their own good.
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July 1st, 2019 at 5:20:17 PM permalink
How many times must they be exposed for selective editing before you stop promoting them? Perhaps a better question might be why you are so invested in a propaganda site like that.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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July 1st, 2019 at 5:32:54 PM permalink
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How many times must they be exposed for selective editing before you stop promoting them? Perhaps a better question might be why you are so invested in a propaganda site like that.



If it fits their narrative, it’s real. If it doesn’t, it’s “fake news.”
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July 1st, 2019 at 5:53:10 PM permalink
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One solution is to pass laws prohibiting them from doing the things described in the Project Veritas video.


Don't like google, don't use it
Its not necessary in life
Its not necessary for anything

If a ton of people use google, well they must be doing something right
The marketplace has spoken

Why don't conservatives create their own search engine instead whining like crybabies trying to pass laws against freedom
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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July 1st, 2019 at 7:06:30 PM permalink
Somehow I missed that SHS’s last day as Press Secretary was last week!

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July 1st, 2019 at 7:22:01 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

Don't like google, don't use it
Its not necessary in life
Its not necessary for anything

If a ton of people use google, well they must be doing something right
The marketplace has spoken

Why don't conservatives create their own search engine instead whining like crybabies trying to pass laws against freedom



Why create a search engine when you can create your own facts?
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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July 2nd, 2019 at 3:32:09 AM permalink
Please don't feed the trolls
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July 3rd, 2019 at 2:20:13 AM permalink
baby blimp Trump headed to DC for 4th of July protest

they're going to rain on T's parade

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-baby-trump-balloon-is-coming-to-washington-but-dont-look-up-to-see-it/2019/07/02/fea476f0-98f3-11e9-916d-9c61607d8190_story.html?utm_term=.5fbe0579d6f7

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July 4th, 2019 at 3:56:36 PM permalink
Happy to see Mother Nature is not a fan of the MAGA crowd.
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