Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: RSI think the donations thing is kind of a difficult subject, to put it lightly. I think we know the downside, which is basically bribery. The not-often-talked-about upside is that there are people and companies that want to donate to someone with no ill-will intentions. Not to mention, it’d be incredibly difficult to be competitive in a campaign if you aren’t already “mega rich” and willing to throw millions upon millions at your campaign costs without donations.
One idea (that’s probably no good) might be to limit how much people can spend on a campaign and/or limit the amount someone can contribute to someone running.
Honestly, I don't really care if they bribe the politicians, because they're going to do that anyway. If they're not going to do it with donations on direct, then they'll do it with Super PAC's, but the difference is we don't always know who's pumping into Super PAC's until the election is over.
I would much rather you can give a candidate as much as you want, but it has to be on the basis of an individual person or a corporation. If the campaign accepts the donation (they wouldn't have to, obviously) then that must be made public record within 24 hours. It's so easy to put that up on the campaign website. No excuse that it couldn't be done in 24 hours.
We could pick some arbitrarily low amount, say $50, that the donation would have to be reported, but not who it came from. However, people would not be allowed to make multiple $50 donations to circumvent the public disclosure.
Anyway, I support no limits on campaign contributions, but full disclosure (other than donations of $50 or less) of where the money is coming from. If I see Comcast greasing the palms of a bunch of Republicans in Senate races I can say, "Oh, crap, Comcast is trying to buy a, 'Net Neutrality,' bill, I'd better encourage everyone to vote against these guys." Stuff like that.
Quote: 777Such action certainly had created a very bad optic. But handing out $300,000 to 2,000 people in a very limited geographical area is nothing when compare to distributing $12 billion to hundred of thousands of farmers in order to will influence the house and senate races in this upcoming mid-term election.
The racist, sexist, rapist, liars, con-artist, incompetent Trump will spend $12 billion tax payer money to buy votes for the Nov mid-term election:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/24/us/politics/farmers-aid-trade-war.html
Politicians spending taxpayer money to try to get reelected? It never happens!!!
I forgot my sarcasm tag. What disgusts me the most about the GOP this term is the open checkbook and their willingness to ignore their own balance sheet while they were complete misers during the Obama terms. The latest Treasury reports show a projected deficit of $830 B this year and $985 billion next FY.
Conservatives have the opportunity to focus on economics, reduce government waste, and focus on programs to reduce the deficit. And none of that is happening. Instead they have a tax cut and the feds are raising the cost of borrowing which will make servicing that deficit all the more expensive.
Quote: TomGIf she would just make up lies about the voting results she would earn your support
"I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally"
"The biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan"
\ Yeah, but he is the President. And will be re-elected if the Democratic party is represented by candidates like Alexandriaq and other Socialists
Quote: Mission146Honestly, I don't really care if they bribe the politicians, because they're going to do that anyway. If they're not going to do it with donations on direct, then they'll do it with Super PAC's, but the difference is we don't always know who's pumping into Super PAC's until the election is over.
I would much rather you can give a candidate as much as you want, but it has to be on the basis of an individual person or a corporation. If the campaign accepts the donation (they wouldn't have to, obviously) then that must be made public record within 24 hours. It's so easy to put that up on the campaign website. No excuse that it couldn't be done in 24 hours.
We could pick some arbitrarily low amount, say $50, that the donation would have to be reported, but not who it came from. However, people would not be allowed to make multiple $50 donations to circumvent the public disclosure.
Anyway, I support no limits on campaign contributions, but full disclosure (other than donations of $50 or less) of where the money is coming from. If I see Comcast greasing the palms of a bunch of Republicans in Senate races I can say, "Oh, crap, Comcast is trying to buy a, 'Net Neutrality,' bill, I'd better encourage everyone to vote against these guys." Stuff like that.
Yeah, like voters are gonna do that. LOL
Quote: dogqckYeah, like voters are gonna do that. LOL
I imagine that the sources of the donations will be mentioned in many campaign ads, so the voters won't necessarily have to look it up for themselves.
"We stand in strong solidarity with CNN for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press."
there is a limit to how much Trump can try to delegitimize the press even for Fox News.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-president-declares-strong-solidarity-with-cnn-after-wh-bars-kaitlan-collins-from-event/
Quote: Maverick17As if we freedom loving American's had not had enough winning today the House finally gets off its rear-end (would hate to offend with any questionable language on such a WINNING day) and....
sets up a path to impeach rosenstein.
11 members of the GOP are publicly supporting this. There is a mundane House rule that would allow them to go around Speaker Ryan and schedule an Impeachment vote TODAY.
They need 218 votes. They don't have them.
This is nothing more than a publicity stunt to excite the viewers of Fox News. And based on your post, I'd say it worked.
1) no trumper seemed to want to talk about trumps BAILOUT to farmers after HIS idiotic trade war put them in a poor spot.
2) no trumper wants to talk about him attempting to buy votes by bailing out the farmers around midterms.
3) no trumper wants to talk about the michael cohen tapes where trump openly discusses paying off his affairs... but, but, what about when trump REPEATEDLY denied knowing anything about it and that it wasn't true??? Can we yet admit he's a flat out LIAR?
#NotMyPresident
Quote: RonCOkay...so here is a fact...
A candidate for Mayor in Chicago handed out $300,000 total to 2,000 on Sunday at church.
Yet when Trump gives money to people he lies about it, then his supporters insist that the lies are the truth. And that is the vision they have for our country.
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On the issues this brought up: I strongly believe I should be able to sell my vote. I would be better off by $3 (or whatever market value is) and no one would be worse off. I am a single issue voter on this. I will support any candidate who believes in making this legal. If no candidate believes in this, then I sell my vote illegally.
Voting is just like sex. We can give it away for free, but as soon as we start buying and selling it, people get offended.
The other option that would make people less squeamish is to allow everyone one vote for free, then we have the option to buy more. But the cost for extra votes would grow as a cube. Your first extra vote costs $1, second extra vote costs $8, third extra vote costs $27, fourth costs $64, fifth costs $125, 10th extra vote costs $100, and 100th extra vote costs $1 million. Then all the money collected from this gets divided equally and paid back to everyone who voted in that election. Instead of rich people giving money to candidates so they can buy TV ads and fly around the country, rich people use that money to pay poorer people to vote. Who would ever be against that idea?
You people act like it's a bad thing.
Quote: billryanBuying votes is an American tradition. Wasn't it Teddy Roosevelt who first handed out cell phones to potential voters.
You people act like it's a bad thing.
They had cell phone technology back then?
Quote: darkozThey had cell phone technology back then?
Yeah, they had Obamaphones. Speaking of which, where was Obama during the Great Depression?!?
Just asking questions!!
Quote: TigerWuYeah, they had Obamaphones. Speaking of which, where was Obama during the Great Depression?!?
Just asking questions!!
I'm pretty sure the whole "great depression" thing is just Fake News. The Thirties was a Golden Age as millions of Americans took a decade long vacation. It took a surprise attack on Hawaii to convince them to go back to work. Kind of like Nixon expanding our role in Vietnam to stop the booming hippie/ teenie bopper movement.
Quote: billryanQuote: TigerWuYeah, they had Obamaphones. Speaking of which, where was Obama during the Great Depression?!?
Just asking questions!!
I'm pretty sure the whole "great depression" thing is just Fake News. The Thirties was a Golden Age as millions of Americans took a decade long vacation. It took a surprise attack on Hawaii to convince them to go back to work. Kind of like Nixon expanding our role in Vietnam to stop the booming hippie/ teenie bopper movement.
The only real financial problem of the 1930s was reconstructing all those building King Kong knocked over
How long till Donald and his minions just abandon all pretense and say “You should be thankful the Russians helped defeat Crooked Hillary!”
You know it’s coming.
Quote: ams288Cohen claims Trump knew in advance of 2016 Trump Tower meeting
How long till Donald and his minions just abandon all pretense and say “You should be thankful the Russians helped defeat Crooked Hillary!”
You know it’s coming.
If true, it shows that he knew the Russians were interfering in our elections and not only didn't report it, but publicly asked for them to hack Hillary.
Interesting times.
Michael Cohen says Trump knew about the meeting with the Russians in advance, and he's willing to testify to that effect.
Is this a great country or what?
Quote: rxwineTrump may have a few skeletons in his closet.
Man, Women, Child, EvenBob Everybody
knows he has a whole boneyard in there,
but he is the Teflon Don.
Someone should make a movie.
Quote: rainmanQuote: rxwineTrump may have a few skeletons in his closet.
Man, Women, Child, EvenBob Everybody
knows he has a whole boneyard in there,
but he is the Teflon Don.
Gotti went down because his enforcer ratted him out. Trumps enforcer looks to be repeating history.
Quote: billryanOn the bright side, had Hillary won, the world would never have seen Rudy G reinvent himself as a stand-up comedian.
If i was someone convicted by rudy guiliani i would be looking into an appeal based on my prosecutor telling clearly false narratives and lying about evidence on national television
Quote: petroglyphThe Russians are coming, the Russians are coming!
Someone should make a movie.
The Russians are already here
The Putin Republicans tried to can the United States Deputy Attorney General
If Trump is ever impeached or put on trial or whatever, he's going to go for an insanity defense. He's obviously been setting himself up for it for years.
"I've secretly been battling dementia for the last 5 years, but I couldn't say anything because it would destroy our great country yada yada yada....wait, where am I again?"
Quote: ams288This is “Gym” Jordan. He has no problem with guys getting molested in the locker room. He wants to be the GOP’s next Speaker of the House.
Look at all the RED in that picture... He's already on the right track...!
Quote: ams288This is “Gym” Jordan. He has no problem with guys getting molested in the locker room. He wants to be the GOP’s next Speaker of the House.
This guy is a sicko
Multiple wrestlers are outright calling Jim Jordan a LIAR
Mike DiSabato,
“I considered Jim Jordan a friend , but at the end of the day, he is absolutely lying if he says he doesn’t know what was going on.”
Quote: terapinedThis guy is a sicko
Multiple wrestlers are outright calling Jim Jordan a LIAR
Mike DiSabato,
“I considered Jim Jordan a friend , but at the end of the day, he is absolutely lying if he says he doesn’t know what was going on.”
I know pronouncing guilt without any actual court case or complete investigation report is our standard operating procedure today, but I am still in favor of actual proof of at least a standard that would win in civil or criminal court as at least a minimal standard for deciding someone is a ______________________. Someone saying something happened is not proof in itself, though it is entirely possible a proper investigation would use those statements and other evidence in providing a report or a court referral, if necessary.
The Dems may have railroaded Al Franken to get the moral high ground in case Roy Moore won:
"Franken didn’t resign because he admitted to being guilty. In fact, he maintained his innocence all along saying, “Some of the allegations against me are simply not true. Others I remember very differently.”"
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/01/railroaded-the-real-reasons-al-franken-is-no-longer-a-senator/
If the actual proof comes in and Jordan ends up resigning, I am fine with that outcome. If there is enough to send him to jail, I am fine with that, too.
Quote: terapinedThe Russians are already here
The Putin Republicans tried to can the United States Deputy Attorney General
While I don't think that is in any way true, I think the attempt to start the impeachment process was the wrong way to handle the issue. The first thing they should do, if he does not comply with legitimate (proper and normally done) requests for documents is to find him in contempt and then proceed from there. if he does not comply after that, take it to court. If the court rules he is in contempt and he still refuses to hand over the documents, then maybe it is time for other action.
Quote: TigerWuAre those SS guys next to Junior? And why on earth is he taking commercial transpo? Doesn't he have access to private jets?
That airport has a lot of politicians and the like passing through. I've seen George H. W. Bush and Kofi Annan there, among others. All traveling commercial and some with lots of security. Perhaps it is easier or quicker in some way...or maybe the opticss are better...
Quote: TigerWuAre those SS guys next to Junior? And why on earth is he taking commercial transpo? Doesn't he have access to private jets?
They certainly look like secret service guys.
This has got me wondering, what happened to Trump's 757? Does the family still use it?
Quote: ams288They certainly look like secret service guys.
This has got me wondering, what happened to Trump's 757? Does the family still use it?
Donald Trump's 757
Here are the dates (UTC) this aircraft has been active (scroll for more). Click on a date to view the flight activity for that date on a map.
July 16th 2018--looks like Dulles to LaGuardia
July 15th 2018--outside US (Russia ???) back to ConUS
July 14th 2018
July 12th 2018
July 11th 2018
July 2nd 2018
June 29th 2018
June 28th 2018
June 27th 2018
June 17th 2018
April 27th 2018
April 8th 2018
March 30th 2018
Flight Activity for N757AF (AA3410)
https://flight-data.adsbexchange.com/activity?inputSelect=registration®istration=N757AF
Quote: RonCI know pronouncing guilt without any actual court case or complete investigation report is our standard operating procedure today, but I am still in favor of actual proof of at least a standard that would win in civil or criminal court as at least a minimal standard for deciding someone is a ______________________. Someone saying something happened is not proof in itself, though it is entirely possible a proper investigation would use those statements and other evidence in providing a report or a court referral, if necessary.
The Dems may have railroaded Al Franken to get the moral high ground in case Roy Moore won:
"Franken didn’t resign because he admitted to being guilty. In fact, he maintained his innocence all along saying, “Some of the allegations against me are simply not true. Others I remember very differently.”"
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/01/railroaded-the-real-reasons-al-franken-is-no-longer-a-senator/
If the actual proof comes in and Jordan ends up resigning, I am fine with that outcome. If there is enough to send him to jail, I am fine with that, too.
What kind of proof would you find acceptable? Eyewitness testimony isn't good enough?
Quote: billryanWhat kind of proof would you find acceptable? Eyewitness testimony isn't good enough?
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/jim-jordan-accusers/
These accusers look real credible.
Quote: billryanWhat kind of proof would you find acceptable? Eyewitness testimony isn't good enough?
These cases will have their day in court...there are others that deny anything of the sort ever happening.
Let's see how it plays out in court. When they are under oath.
I will be fine with the outcome of that...whichever way it may go based on the evidence...
Quote: RonCThese cases will have their day in court...there are others that deny anything of the sort ever happening.
Let's see how it plays out in court. When they are under oath.
I will be fine with the outcome of that...whichever way it may go based on the evidence...
The Doctor is dead. What trial? Ohio St has already accepted this situation happened, no?
Quote: billryanThe Doctor is dead. What trial? Ohio St has already accepted this situation happened, no?
Rep. Jim Jordan Is Named in New OSU Sexual Abuse Lawsuit
A new class action lawsuit on behalf of former athletes has named the Ohio congressman for failing to prevent sexual abuse perpetrated by a university doctor
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jim-jordan-ohio-state-700578/
He is named in the suit, so we shall see what happens.
Quote: TigerWu
The picture on the right really makes me appreciate Kate McKinnon’s SNL version of Rudy.
Quote: Fleaswatterhttp://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/jim-jordan-accusers/
These accusers look real credible.
I'll give you their history lends to credible skepticism about truthfulness.
Of course, same with Trump though.
Quote: mcallister3200Yo ams, what’s the Don’s golf count up to this year? People are trying to figure out who to vote for in two years, this is need to know info.
This is pretty handy info....
Quote: mcallister3200Yo ams, what’s the Don’s golf count up to this year? People are trying to figure out who to vote for in two years, this is need to know info.
I wish we could poll Fox News viewers with this question:
Who golfed more during their first two years as President: Trump or Obama?
I think those results would be amusing.
Quote: ams288I wish we could poll Fox News viewers with this question:
Who golfed more during their first two years as President: Trump or Obama?
I think those results would be amusing.
Obama was too busy keeping the Russians out of the Crimea and Ukraine to go golfing.
Actually he was working on the economy to achieve a 4.1% GDP growth. Oh wait, that was Trump.
Quote: TigerWu
I hate "screen shots" of anyone. We are all susceptible to a moment of not looking terrific when talking or reacting to something. Putting the desired look with a quote is shady, imo. Both sides are equally guilty of this.
Quote: rsactuaryQuote: TigerWu
I hate "screen shots" of anyone. We are all susceptible to a moment of not looking terrific when talking or reacting to something. Putting the desired look with a quote is shady, imo. Both sides are equally guilty of this.
I was thinking they went with one of his calmer moments. Watch the video if you haven't. Then watch it with no sound and watch only his face. I almost felt bad for him until I realized he was in Donnies inner circle at the time of the meeting. He's not just defending his client, he is defending himself. Where is his lawyer telling him to exercise his right not incriminate himself?
