No officials, retired or active and after numerous post-action statements are even close to alleging that the election was "stolen."Quote: ams288Yes, Trump and the GOP have only been accused of colluding with our enemy, the Russians, to steal an election.
Quote: ams288Yes, Trump and the GOP have only been accused of colluding with our enemy, the Russians, to steal an election.
The Russians provided the services to the Trump campaign for free. This is why you see the Chinese, Russian, North Korean, and Iranian leaders in the news today. Russia knew that it would be far better off with the Orange Chimp-in-Chief over HRC and could exert their political wills without Trump being able to use any form of real diplomacy (the diplomacy behind closed doors) to stop them.
One cannot possibly deny that Russia and its leadership made a serious attempt to throw the direction Trumps' way. The evidence is clear and overwhelming. And the American people apparently are fine with that, just like they are fine with gerrymandering, restrictive/overly permissive voting laws, and outlandish campaign contribution limits (money = speech -- I blame the Dems on the last one).
The outstanding question is whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. The answer is no. That is what the conclusion will be. It will be clear that Trump's campaign was overly friendly with the Russians and that the Trump campaign knew what the Russians were doing, but were likely under no (or at least beyond a reasonable doubt) legal obligation to stop or report it.
Ethically, politics has been so over the line for the last number of decades. You have governments of foreign nations contributing to politicians' non-campaign foundations (HRC and Trump) and you don't think that there is a sway when in comes to government decisions based on that donation?
Quote: SanchoPanzaNo officials, retired or active and after numerous post-action statements are even close to alleging that the election was "stolen."
Doesn't matter. It's like a failed bank robbery. No money taken, just the attempt gets you thrown in jail.
Who's been "thrown in jail"?Quote: rxwineDoesn't matter. It's like a failed bank robbery. No money taken, just the attempt gets you thrown in jail.
Quote: SanchoPanzaWho's been "thrown in jail"?
There's an independent council investigating, if you haven't heard, to see if anyone needs to be thrown in jail. Fat lady hasn't sung yet.
Quote: SanchoPanzaActually "it shows just how stupid" Clinton and the Democrats have been. At least Trump and the Republicans have not even been accused of paying our enemy, the Russians, for totally unverifiable claptrap.
You're conveniently ignoring that the research was originally ordered by either a Republican candidate or the RNG (haven't heard a clear trail) during the primaries. Or considering that it's a common practice, for decades at least, to do so.
Enjoy that bubble. The facts of the investigation are enormously more important than who paid for it, but Bengazi, bay-bee. Distract, conflate, confuse.
Quote: rxwineThere's an independent council investigating, if you haven't heard, to see if anyone needs to be thrown in jail. Fat lady hasn't sung yet.
Awesome can't wait for Hillary to spend the rest of her life in jail, where she belongs.
Quote: AxelWolfApparently there is Lots of unconfirmed stuff in there. I guess they couldn't find enough legitimate stuff so they tossed in some extra BS to make it look like everyone got their money's worth.Quote: ams288Quote: SanchoPanzaThe Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign violated campaign finance laws by failing to accurately disclose payments related to the so-called Trump Dossier, the non-partisan Campaign Legal Center said in a complaint filed today with the Federal Election Commission.lawnewz
Thank you for proving my point.
You righties think who paid for the dossier is the story, when in reality the validity of its contents is the story.
Who did y'all think paid for it before this week? Santa Claus? Ted Cruz's JFK-assassinating father? Of course it was the Dems! lol
'Apparently,' what they have been able to independently confirm HAS checked out. There's no reason to say the rest is BS: an English spy of 20 years or whatever would have sources we couldn't access or evaluate on our own. You'd LIKE it to be BS, but there's enough consistency, enough whores, enough info that may not rise to the level of proof needed to confirm but indicates veracity, that it's credible.
The more important indicator in something like this, is that none of it, so far, has been provably false. (AFAIK)
Quote: HomelessnycAwesome can't wait for Hillary to spend the rest of her life in jail, where she belongs.
If she could reasonably be electable as President, or a swing state, that might be interesting. I'm not even sure future Democratic candidates even want Hillary's endorsement or that it would help where it's needed.
So, have at it.
There is a thing called projection.
I can only imagine a bunch of hookers pissing on Hillary. I wonder if Huma was present.
Quote: MaxPenAppears to be, the only one not colluding with Russia is Trump.
Appearances can be deceiving. You should know that by now.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/923301154783600640
Remember her #RESIST movement?
Turning into a #BOWELMOVEMENT
Quote: MaxPenAppears to be, the only one not colluding with Russia is Trump.
Bob Mueller is on line one for you, MaxPen.
Quote: MaxPenSomebody is getting nervous. This is too funny.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/923301154783600640
Remember her #RESIST movement?
Turning into a #BOWELMOVEMENT
Reading all the comments against hillary on that twitter link i begin to see why Righties are so deluded. There is one YouTube link on there to hillary and a murder plot and another for her deception and treasonous acts. A lot of fake news is confusing the right and of course trump is using the very same tactic to accuse the news media of
Quote: darkozReading all the comments against hillary on that twitter link i begin to see why Righties are so deluded. There is one YouTube link on there to hillary and a murder plot and another for her deception and treasonous acts. A lot of fake news is confusing the right and of course trump is using the very same tactic to accuse the news media of
Why are the righties still so obsessed with Hillary? SHE LOST. She's not running again. Do they think lefties like me give a damn what happens to her now?!
If you watch Fox News, they're so obsessed with her it's like an alternate universe where she won and they're doing everything they can to get her impeached.
Quote: ams288Why are the righties still so obsessed with Hillary? SHE LOST. She's not running again. Do they think lefties like me give a damn what happens to her now?!
So criminals shouldn't be attested, tried and thrown in jail???
Quote: HomelessnycSo criminals shouldn't be attested, tried and thrown in jail???
If that were the case, the whole Trump family would be behind bars by now.
Quote: ams288If that were the case, the whole Trump family would be behind bars by now.
If you have any proof of that i suggest you provide it to the authorities
Quote: ams288Why are the righties still so obsessed with Hillary? SHE LOST. She's not running again. Do they think lefties like me give a damn what happens to her now?!
The media outlets needs a boogeyman to go along with their fearmongering. In the case of the Conservative media, they got used to having Obama to pick on for eight years, and now that the GOP controls the White House and Congress, they don't know what to do with themselves since there isn't really a Democratic/Liberal "figurehead" in the government now. They're reverting to the last person they had to demonize, which was Hillary.
Quote: ams288If that were the case, the whole Trump family would be behind bars by now.
Along with every single politician, from Trump to some small dump town mayor in rural USA, in this country.
Quote: ams288Why are the righties still so obsessed with Hillary? SHE LOST. She's not running again. Do they think lefties like me give a damn what happens to her now?!
If you watch Fox News, they're so obsessed with her it's like an alternate universe where she won and they're doing everything they can to get her impeached.
It sure seems like y'all lefties care quite a bit. Seemingly every time she's been mentioned, ya come running to her defense, "Just leave her alone! She's not president!" Reminds me of the "leave Britney alone" YouTube video.
Quote: RSIt sure seems like y'all lefties care quite a bit. Seemingly every time she's been mentioned, ya come running to her defense, "Just leave her alone! She's not president!"
I feel like there's some kind of logical fallacy going here, but I can't quite put my finger on it....
Criticizing someone's obsession about something is not a defense of the thing being criticized.
Quote: RSReminds me of the "leave Britney alone" YouTube video.
The "leave Britney alone" guy went on to become a gay porn star, FYI.
And weirdly, he'd also be a better President than Donald. Could probably even pass major legislation by month 9 of his Presidency if he wanted to...
Quote: ams288The "leave Britney alone" guy went on to become a gay porn star, FYI.
Interesting that you know such information... just saying
Quote: HomelessnycInteresting that you know such information... just saying
What are you implying?
Quote: HomelessnycInteresting that you know such information... just saying
Why is it interesting?
Quote: rsactuaryWhat are you implying?
Hit a nerve?
Someone can't say something is interesting without contextually implying something?
Speaks volume, but you'll just call me names and make things up like before and as usual the mods will do nothing.
I'll leave it at that because if i state too much facts about a user here I'll be banned.
Quote: ams288Why is it interesting?
I'm gay.
With that information it makes it less interesting
Donald was quoted saying, "I cannot believe the media produced such beautiful children."
One of the few good things about POTUS Trump is that he can make me laugh.
Quote: ams288The children of the WH press corps visited the Oval Office today.
Donald was quoted saying, "I cannot believe the media produced such beautiful children."
One of the few good things about POTUS Trump is that he can make me laugh.
I would have thought most of the media covering Trump would have known better than to expose their children to him. Yecch.
Quote:Washington (CNN)A federal grand jury in Washington, DC, on Friday approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources briefed on the matter.
The charges are still sealed under orders from a federal judge. Plans were prepared Friday for anyone charged to be taken into custody as soon as Monday, the sources said. It is unclear what the charges are.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html
Quote: rxwineBad boy bad boys they are coming for you.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html
Must be a huge coincidence the right wingers all jumped on the nonsense Uranium stuff this week. ;)
Quote: HomelessnycHit a nerve?
Someone can't say something is interesting without contextually implying something?
Speaks volume, but you'll just call me names and make things up like before and as usual the mods will do nothing.
I'll leave it at that because if i state too much facts about a user here I'll be banned.
You can call me gay, because I am. Quite proud of myself, actually. That's not hitting a nerve. But I seem to have hit yours. Again.
Quote: rsactuaryYou can call me gay, because I am. Quite proud of myself, actually. That's not hitting a nerve. But I seem to have hit yours. Again.
*yawn*
Keep imagining things that aren't there.
You keep confusing me having issue with you because you are gay with the FACT i have issue with you because of your opinions and lack of comprehension on FACTS i post.
It's a good night for us lefties.
4Quote: RSYou all already read Clinton's new travesty of a book, soaking up the "Trump is a creep" line? Lol
The fact that she wrote that book is major cringe factor.
I don't care who Mueller charges/indicts/whatever. Democrat, Republican, Clinton, Trump.... hopefully it will set a precedent that if a politician or their staff commits any crimes they will be held accountable. I suspect that despite getting everyone's hopes up, very little will come of this. Probably some minor player will get a slap on the wrist, and business will continue as usual.
Quote: Homelessnyc*yawn*
Keep imagining things that aren't there.
You keep confusing me having issue with you because you are gay with the FACT i have issue with you because of your opinions and lack of comprehension on FACTS i post.
Then why the question to ams? You started that line of questioning, not me. Your phobia is showing again.
That would be interesting.
Quote: MrVWhat if Trump is indicted?
That would be interesting.
Plot twist:
Trump AND Clinton!
The media would implode.
Quote: rsactuaryThen why the question to ams? You started that line of questioning, not me. Your phobia is showing again.
Wow can't read can you?
No question was asked.
You can have the last word I'll go back to ignoring you.
Quote: HomelessnycInteresting that you know such information... just saying
Are you saying you weren't trying to imply anything here?
Why was it interesting to you?
Quote: Dalex64Are you saying you weren't trying to imply anything here?
Why was it interesting to you?
Seriously you guys need to really get a life. I made a comment to ams that i found it interesting he knew that, he provided more information which changed my opinion on finding it interesting.
Seems like he and i got on the same page and he wasn't offended. However you seem to be offended about something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. So move on.
The "leave Britney alone" guy went on to become a gay porn star, FYI
Quote: HomelessnycInteresting that you know such information... just saying
Quote: rsactuary
What are you implying?
Quote: HomelessnycHit a nerve?
Someone can't say something is interesting without contextually implying something?
Speaks volume, but you'll just call me names and make things up like before and as usual the mods will do nothing.
I'll leave it at that because if i state too much facts about a user here I'll be banned.
Quote: HomelessnycQuote: ams288Why is it interesting?
I'm gay.
With that information it makes it less interesting
Quote: rsactuaryYou can call me gay, because I am. Quite proud of myself, actually. That's not hitting a nerve. But I seem to have hit yours. Again.
Quote: Homelessnyc*yawn*
Keep imagining things that aren't there.
You keep confusing me having issue with you because you are gay with the FACT i have issue with you because of your opinions and lack of comprehension on FACTS i post.
Quote: rsactuary
Then why the question to ams? You started that line of questioning, not me. Your phobia is showing again.
Quote: nycWow can't read can you?
No question was asked.
You can have the last word I'll go back to ignoring you.
Quote: Dalex64Are you saying you weren't trying to imply anything here?
Why was it interesting to you?
Quote: HomelessnycSeriously you guys need to really get a life. I made a comment to ams that i found it interesting he knew that, he provided more information which changed my opinion on finding it interesting.
Seems like he and i got on the same page and he wasn't offended. However you seem to be offended about something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. So move on.
Taking this entire line of discussion in isolation, several things are clear.
1. You were, in fact, trying to imply there was an opportunity to personally embarrass ams. Too bad for you he's been out on this board for years. Opportunity lost.
2. In denying it you've been rude and dismissive to at least 2 other members.
3. You continue to demonstrate that you don't know the difference between discussing a topic and personal rudeness, and descend instead into trolling.
14 days.
Leave Homelessnyc alone!!!