Trump's Final 100 days
Quote: MaxPenI currently have bets giving me odds that he won't complete his first term and some for this year. Betting Trump for the win has been great to the wallet.
Whenever MaxPen brags about his bets, it is my obligation to bring up the fact that AFTER election night, he made a bet that Donald would win the popular vote.
lolz
Quote: ams288Whenever MaxPen brags about his bets, it is my obligation to bring up the fact that AFTER election night, he made a bet that Donald would win the popular vote.
lolz
You hardly talk about anything Vegas, casino or gambling. Why the $%#@ are you here?
Quote: ams288Whenever MaxPen brags about his bets, it is my obligation to bring up the fact that AFTER election night, he made a bet that Donald would win the popular vote.
lolz
Do you realize why he did that?
And it's my obligation to point out that he obviously did that for "fun" and knew he would be giving away free money, especially since he declined to give me the same bet or let anyone put up anything significant.Quote: ams288Whenever MaxPen brags about his bets, it is my obligation to bring up the fact that AFTER election night, he made a bet that Donald would win the popular vote.
lolz
Quote: RomesHow is any of that a "want?" I've given you plenty of real factual examples of his failures and lies. You've continued to just spit your opinion with no logic or factual basis whatsoever. Ironically, you 'want' none of that to be true, even though it is, in black and white.
You said he absolutely lost support and voters. Your proof is as valid as those who said he had no path to winning. But then Hillary showed what a failure as a candidate she was and is !
I will say that Trump is taking the easy and obvious path by spending the day with Hurricane victims and meeting officials in Louisiana. Obvious stuff, but good for him.
Meanwhile Russia continues to percolate. It looks like some moderation is taking hold. Seems that he is going to go along with somehow supporting and showing compassion with the "Dreamers". With Bannon gone it seems like he can avoid the real obvious mistakes.
Harvey gave him and the nation some focus. Compromising with the house/senate on some agreeable things might allow Trump to make progress on tax reform.
Quote: ams288Whenever MaxPen brags about his bets, it is my obligation to bring up the fact that AFTER election night, he made a bet that Donald would win the popular vote.
lolz
Just pointing out how rediculous it was for Bill to try and get me to give him odds on anyone but Trump. The line is currently paying 3/1 Trump. Now if billryan would like to put up 3000 to my 1000 on Trump we can work a bet. Stop looking for handouts like a typical liberal. Just an FYI, nothing personal against billryan. For the record, I'm not fishing for political betting action for that far out. This offer is for billryan only, but you most certainly can cheer him on.
Quote: AxelWolfAnd it's my obligation to point out that he obviously did that for "fun"
Throwing money down the drain does not seem very "fun" to me.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou hardly talk about anything Vegas, casino or gambling. Why the $%#@ are you here?
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Quote: ams288Throwing money down the drain does not seem very "fun" to me.
People toss money down the drain doing stuff others don't think are fun all the time like smoking, drugs, playing craps or slots( especially online), over tipping, buying junk food from the convenience store, loaning a deadbeat money(OK, loaning a deadbeat money is never fun), etc.
I have seen people do eating (and other types of challenges or prop bets) that will make them lose money, get sick/hurt, and there is no reward for doing it, other than some bragging rights. Bragging rights on how much you can or cant eat always seemed idiotic to me.
Some people would say spending their time on the WOV political thread bitching about Trump does not seem very fun to them, some people may even call it insanely stupid.
It may have been fun for him to give out a little charity since he made so much on the Trump winning(the gift that keeps on giving), perhaps he got a little sweat equity on his charity bet.
I think life would be fairly boring if you never done anything that was basically just tossing money down the drain.
Quote: AxelWolfPeople toss money down the drain doing stuff others don't think are fun all the time like smoking, drugs, playing craps or slots( especially online), over tipping, buying junk food from the convenience store, loaning a deadbeat money(OK, loaning a deadbeat money is never fun), etc.
I have seen people do eating (and other types of challenges or prop bets) that will make them lose money, get sick/hurt, and there is no reward for doing it, other than some bragging rights. Bragging rights on how much you can or cant eat always seemed idiotic to me.
Some people would say spending their time on the WOV political thread bitching about Trump does not seem very fun to them, some people may even call it insanely stupid.
It may have been fun for him to give out a little charity since he made so much on the Trump winning(the gift that keeps on giving), perhaps he got a little sweat equity on his charity bet.
I think life would be fairly boring if you never done anything that was basically just tossing money down the drain.
One of my most pleasurable moments in life was when after a hugely serious argument with my fiance i literally flushed her engagement ring down the toilet. The physical fight to reach the plunger was pure comedy gold but i won
Her face as the ring disappeared. Ah lifes unexpected pleasures
Btw i got a black eye for that one. My ex-fiance got a mean punch.
Quote: darkozOne of my most pleasurable moments in life.
Quote:My ex-fiance got a mean punch.
So fighting and assulting your ex was one of the most pleasurable moments in your life????
Quote: HomelessnycSo fighting and assulting your ex was one of the most pleasurable moments in your life????
Read it again. She hit him.
Quote: IbeatyouracesRead it again. She hit him.
Ok i see what he meant it to read. Def could be clearer.
I got a black eye. She got a mean punch
I need to be
Edit: I see u probably misinterpreted my use of the slang term "mean punch"
I was using it as to say her punching power is really good
Quote: darkozI dont know how much clearer the words
I got a black eye. She's got a mean punch
I need to be
The bolded part was missing. There's the confusion.
Quote: darkoz
In the literary or screenwriting world incorrect use of language and typos are enough to hav your work dismissed outright without any further reading
I spell 'have' differently than you do.......
Quote: SOOPOOI spell 'have' differently than you do.......
My point was trump is not being held up to standards even the business world or entertainment industry holds
Not that i need to be held to those standards
Once again i appreciate everyone here thinking i am on the same level as trump and holding me up to the standards a president of the united states should hold
Quote: darkozMy point was trump is not being held up to standards even the business world or entertainment industry holds
Not that i need to be held to those standards
Once again i appreciate everyone here thinking i am on the same level as trump and holding me up to the standards a president of the united states should hold
You're an author and can't even spell. Why are we listening to you say how stupid Trump is because he can't spell, when you can't either? And spare the "misdirection" BS, we've heard it a million times and don't care.
Quote: RSYou're an author and can't even spell. Why are we listening to you say how stupid Trump is because he can't spell, when you can't either?
C'mon, no one is accusing anyone of listening.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou hardly talk about anything Vegas, casino or gambling. Why the $%#@ are you here?
He is here to entertain you
You are here because you read all his posts.
If you are reading all his posts then you are entertained.
Keep calm and carry on
Quote: RSYou're an author and can't even spell. Why are we listening to you say how stupid Trump is because he can't spell, when you can't either? And spare the "misdirection" BS, we've heard it a million times and don't care.
Of curse I know how to spell
Quote: darkozOf curse I know how to spell
And yes I know exactly what I wrote in that post :)
Quote: ams288Happy Labor Day!
Expected trumper reactions:
1) He is a businessman and if he has to do what it takes to close a deal even peeing on prostitutes thats fine by me
2) He still has my vote as long as he builds the wall
3) What about Benghazi
4) Fake News
Quote:According to the latest survey, conducted on CareerBuilder's behalf by Harris Poll, 78% of U.S. full-time workers are now living paycheck to paycheck, up from 75% in 2016, to make ends meet. If we utilize full-time employment data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics in 2016 (123.8 million full-time workers), it means about 97 million of those full-time workers are living paycheck to paycheck. That includes 23% who said they always lived paycheck to paycheck, 17% who claimed they usually do, and 38% who noted that they sometimes do.
What was particularly interesting about CareerBuilder's survey is that well-to-do individuals weren't free of financial issues. Roughly 9% of workers making $100,000 or more annually was living paycheck to paycheck, and 59% of these highest-income folks were carrying around debt. In the middle-income to middle-upper-income bracket of $50,000 to $99,999 in annual income, 28% were living paycheck to paycheck, and 70% were in debt.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/no-joke-97-million-full-time-workers-are-now-living-paycheck-to-paycheck/ar-AArffO6?li=AA4Zjn&ocid=spartanntp
Quote: rxwineJust an interesting data point.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/no-joke-97-million-full-time-workers-are-now-living-paycheck-to-paycheck/ar-AArffO6?li=AA4Zjn&ocid=spartanntp
Massive tax cuts for the rich should take care of this problem.... /sarcasm
- North Korea posturing
- Diplomatic relations with Russia falling apart, likely will not help US in N Korea situation, nor will China.
- Dreamers in jeopardy
- NAFTA trade talks continue (not going very well for anyone)
- Harvey cleanup and Congress to approve spending bill (we hope)
- Russia investigation continues
- Irma has a good shot of hitting Florida and/or the Gulf Coast by end of week
Quote: ams288Happy Labor Day!
I would trust gas station sushi before trusting those sources.
If a pee tape or any other sexually compromising tapes do exist, it won't matter to the core that voted for him. After all, the video of him where he said "grab them by the p*ssy" did not destroy him. The tapes, if they exist, also will have the same zero effect.
These are the same people who screamed about Benghazi and people who still believe Obama was born in Kenya and practices the Islamic faith.
The existence of the "pee tapes" come from Steele (who is by all accounts credible) and is hitting the news this week due to another article by BBC reporter Paul Wood (also credible). The FBI took these seriously, but even if "there is nothing to see here", I find it pretty incredulous that people could find this behavior (or rumours thereof) acceptable by the Commander in Chief.
The question of pertinence is whether the Russian government is holding this material back as blackmail and how all of this folds into the Russian investigation, which, frankly, Trump deserves (whether true or false) given his many years of declarations and lies about Obama. Karma's a bitch.
What's true is that the office of the President has been reduced to ridicule. I thought Dubya was bad. This is magnitudes worse in every imaginable way, and he's done it to himself. For example:
The USA is backed into a corner with North Korea, to the point where Trump in a tweet has threatened to cancel trade with all countries that trade with North Korea. That list of countries includes of course China, and also France, India, Philippines, Germany, Portugal, Singapore. It's a ridiculous proposition that carries zero weight because it will never happen (if it did, it would be catastrophic for the United States). The only option with North Korea without a large scale military conflict and millions of lives lost (almost all Korean) is diplomacy, something that Trump is incapable of unless it has to do with building structures. I mean, we can go back and forth on this, but I don't see anyone on the right here saying anything meaningful on how Trump is going to #MAGA with this issue. I mean, pretty much everyone is scratching their head on this one.
In the end, sanctions will need to be enforced by the world, including China and Russia. For them to cooperate, the United States needs to be on good terms with them, and right now, with the expulsion of diplomats from American soil this weekend, and the military operations over the Korean peninsula is viewed by China as a threat.
Are you actually happy with the way that Trump has handled foreign policy? Anyone? And if so, why? Please don't respond by colorful meme.
Trump is over his head, we have a Sec of State with no diplomatic experience, a UN Ambassador with no gravitas, and a Sec of Defense nicknamed Mad Dog.
Anyone tired of winning yet?
Quote: boymimboIf a pee tape or any other sexually compromising tapes do exist, it won't matter to the core that voted for him.
I completely agree.
I just think it'd be funny to have a video of his fat naked ass palling around with Russian hookers.
THAT would make me change my avatar.
Quote: ontariodealerit seems to me that this north Korean nutcase has been going off for years and your Obama said nothing.....now he is at it again and your leader is standing up for his country and being counted. Good on trump, and the American way.
Well there's one response.
The "American way" won't work in this case. The US cannot stage an effective military intervention without millions of innocent lives (aka Seoul and the whole of South Korea) being at risk. Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, North Korea is a very sensitive country and extremely well defended by millions of people who are brainwashed to fight for whatever Un asks for.
Norea Korea ratched up because of Trump's rhetoric. It's very calculated. Most analysts believe that the US can do nothing to actually stop Un, and Un's provocations are only good for North Korea and not good for America (because Trump cannot make good on this military threats).
It is completely up to China to reign them in. 93% of their trade and the exports are with China, which means America has to make very very nice with China so that NK stops what they are doing.
And China is too much in the US pockets (how much US debt does it own) for the US to do anything with trade without some serious blowback.
The correct solution is diplomacy which Trump's team seems to be incapable of, and to hope that any military option does not get China and/or Russia involved.
Quote: billryanBeing counted by who? The number of Allied countries he is managing to piss off in a week? So far this weekend, he has taken pot shots at South Korea, threatened to ban imports from a half dozen NATO members, including both your country and Germany, and wants to deport almost a million people because of crimes their parents committed, which weren't even a crime at the time for many of them.
To be fair, DACA was supposed to be temporary. Removing DACA forces the branches of government to resolve the immigration issue and determine a proper and permanent resolution for these people.
I'm not hopeful given the GOP's work on rescinding ObamaCare. And the only tax reform that is going to come out of the session is going to be more breaks for the rich and screwing over everyone else.
But if there is a time to #MAGA screw over the American public, it is now. The GOP majorities in both houses will be severely eroded and gone by the end of 2018.
I used to read the countries get leaders they deserve and never quite understood it. Unfortunately, now I do.
I am hoping that legislation will get written and passed that essentially allows all Dreamers (recipients of DACA), spouses, and their children to be fast-tracked to Green Card with Employment Authorizations for most in a new immigration class with the exception of those not normally admissible via criminality. I think it's relatively simple to create a law that does that and legalizes the Dreamers permanently. It should be a slam dunk actually and given the compassion that seems to hold on both sides of the aisle might be easy to pass.
It's a triple win if done properly: (1) Trump follows through on campaign promises (2) Congress and Senate show that they can cooperate (3) Dreamers rightfully get to stay in the country and continue to be contributing members of American society.
Quote: boymimboEssentially Congress/Senate has about three months before Dreamers will need to plan on getting out of the country over the next two years as their work visas expire. I don't expect anything to get done and I expect that the 700,000 will get deported.
I am hoping that legislation will get written and passed that essentially allows all Dreamers (recipients of DACA), spouses, and their children to be fast-tracked to Green Card with Employment Authorizations for most in a new immigration class with the exception of those not normally admissible via criminality. I think it's relatively simple to create a law that does that and legalizes the Dreamers permanently. It should be a slam dunk actually and given the compassion that seems to hold on both sides of the aisle might be easy to pass.
It's a triple win if done properly: (1) Trump follows through on campaign promises (2) Congress and Senate show that they can cooperate (3) Dreamers rightfully get to stay in the country and continue to be contributing members of American society.
So you want to reward people who came here illegally with citizenship?
This is asking for more and more to illegally enter before a "deadline" is made. So they can get a path to something they were never entitled to.
Quote: Current USCIS Immigration site, retrieved today
You may request DACA if you:
- Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;
- Came to the United States before reaching your 16th birthday;
- Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;
-Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making your request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
- Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012;
- Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and
- Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor,or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.
NOTE: By USCIS's guidelines, this does not apply to anyone arriving in the United States after June 15, 2007. This means that your last statement "more and more to illegally enter" is wrong, as you MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTRY SINCE JUNE 15, 2007.
Further,
(1) "They" did not make the decision to come here. Their parents did. All DACA recipients were under the age of 16 before they arrived.
(2) Most are contributing to society and paying taxes (91% of DACA recipients of working age are working).
(3) Estimates that removing these 800,000 people will cost the US economy conservatively on the order of 6.3 billion to replace the workers, and there are already job shortages in the United States in key industries where these "dreamers - Trump's term" are gainfully employed.
(4) Other estimates show a loss of between 280 - 460 billion over a decade due to loss of tax revenues when these people are deported and their jobs are not replaced and the 800k are deported -- they will no longer be homeowners, car buyers, or contributors to the economy.
Quote: billryanWe, sadly, have a coward for our President. He rescinded DACA but doesn't have the balls to announce it himself. In fact, he undercuts his own lackey by releasing a statement blaming everyone but himself for this decision.
I used to read the countries get leaders they deserve and never quite understood it. Unfortunately, now I do.
"I alone can fix it." - DJT
Quote: boymimbo
NOTE: By USCIS's guidelines, this does not apply to anyone arriving in the United States after June 15, 2007. This means that your last statement "more and more to illegally enter" is wrong, as you MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTRY SINCE JUNE 15, 2007.
Seriously???
So when they illegally entered did they get a timestamp on their forehead?
Quote: HomelessnycSeriously???
So when they illegally entered did they get a timestamp on their forehead?
Oof.
Just stop while you're behind...
Quote: billryanWe, sadly, have a coward for our President. He rescinded DACA but doesn't have the balls to announce it himself. In fact, he undercuts his own lackey by releasing a statement blaming everyone but himself for this decision.
I used to read the countries get leaders they deserve and never quite understood it. Unfortunately, now I do.
Congress is full of them, Democrats and Republicans.
Quote: ams288Oof.
Just stop while you're behind...
As usually great argument.
If you were a lawyer you'd be unemployed with skills like this.
Quote: boymimboClearly you don't understand what DACA is as you make a classic wrong statement: "more and more to illegally enter".
Quote: Current USCIS Immigration site, retrieved today
You may request DACA if you:
- Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;
- Came to the United States before reaching your 16th birthday;
- Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;
-Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making your request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
- Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012;
- Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and
- Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor,or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.
NOTE: By USCIS's guidelines, this does not apply to anyone arriving in the United States after June 15, 2007. This means that your last statement "more and more to illegally enter" is wrong, as you MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTRY SINCE JUNE 15, 2007.
Further,
(1) "They" did not make the decision to come here. Their parents did. All DACA recipients were under the age of 16 before they arrived.
(2) Most are contributing to society and paying taxes (91% of DACA recipients of working age are working).
(3) Estimates that removing these 800,000 people will cost the US economy conservatively on the order of 6.3 billion to replace the workers, and there are already job shortages in the United States in key industries where these "dreamers - Trump's term" are gainfully employed.
(4) Other estimates show a loss of between 280 - 460 billion over a decade due to loss of tax revenues when these people are deported and their jobs are not replaced and the 800k are deported -- they will no longer be homeowners, car buyers, or contributors to the economy.
The average earnings of Daca over age 25 is $41,621. Gee, I thought illegal immigrants only took jobs Americans won't do. Damn, talk about lazy Americans.
Quote: HomelessnycSeriously???
So when they illegally entered did they get a timestamp on their forehead?
Given that they must provide proof of entry to USCIS, I would say "yes". Read the USCIS site for all of the documentation that is required to get the status. USCIS keeps all entry records and you can get your exit/entry records online (as I have done) and they are all timestamped. I suspect that if your family just bolted across the border you would still have to present the proof as USCIS asks for below.
USCIS requires that you obtain and present that evidence as proof that you were in the country on the required dates (a) you came before your 16th birthday (b) you were a resident as of June 15, 2007 continuously to June 2012:
Quote: USCIS, retrieved today
Proof you came to U.S. before your 16th birthday:
- Passport with admission stamp
- Form I-94/I-95/I-94W
- School records from the U.S. schools you have attended
- Any Immigration and Naturalization Service or DHS document stating your date of entry (Form I-862, Notice to Appear)
- Travel records
- Hospital or medical records
- Employment records (pay stubs, W-2 Forms, etc.)
- Official records from a religious entity confirming participation in a religious ceremony
- Copies of money order receipts for money sent in or out of the country
- Birth certificates of children born in the U.S.
- Dated bank transactions
- Automobile license receipts or registration
- Deeds, mortgages, rental agreement contracts
- Tax receipts, insurance policies
Proof of presence in U.S. on June 15, 2012 / Proof that you continuously resided in the US since June 15, 2007:
- Rent receipts or utility bills
- Employment records (pay stubs, W-2 Forms, etc)
- School records (letters, report cards, etc)
- Military records (Form DD-214 or NGB Form 22)
- Official records from a religious entity confirming participation in a religious ceremony
- Copies of money order receipts for money sent in or out of the country
- Passport entries
- Birth certificates of children born in the U.S.
- Dated bank transactions
- Automobile license receipts or registration
-Deeds, mortgages, rental agreement contracts
- Tax receipts, insurance policies
I am currently going through the immigration process in the United States (wife is a Citizen) and it is not fun nor easy, as it shouldn't be. For the "dreamers", the process is equally as daunting if not more so.
It's a typical mistake to overly simplify the process and just assume that DACA recipients just get a visa without any kind of documentation. It makes it easier to hate people, classify them as villains and nail Obama while they are at it.
As usually I provide a bunch of credible evidence from non-biased sources and I get the typical one-liner responses that I expect on a CNN or FoxNews comment board.
